Not Amusing
If true, further bad news:
- SCC,
I'm not too sure if you heard this word yet but according to sources (seemingly reliable), J-Fed has decided to appeal ALL decisions of the police board which result in officers getting their jobs back. There are currently 2 officers in call-back that had been reinstated by the Police Board, but were subsequently returned to call back after their decisions were appealed. Another officer who received his job back was supposedly taken off the street and placed on desk duty as well. I thought others should know the manner in which the administration continues to "have our backs." For the record, all three officers are hard workers.
This would mark a departure from the "carrot-and-stick" approach to management and an introduction to the "giant splintery 2x4 shoved up your ass sideways" model in hopes of ruling by fear. Anyone know how much of it is true?
posted by SCC at 12:32 AM
44 Comments:
How about this novel idea: Don't put covers on your license plates...make sure your city sticker and plates are up to date. No tickets. After all, aren't we supposed to enforce the laws? If we don't obey them, who will?
No whining!
Scc, J-Fed can have the Corporation Counsel go to civil court for what is called a Judicial Review. I know of one case this was done in, mine. The Judge told the corporation counsel that if I had lost at the board and petitioned the court, he city would be saying I was just unhappy with the boards decision and he would rule in the cities favor and uphold the police board. But in my case the Corporation Counsel was claiming that the board they put in place ruled badly and now the city wants to override the board. He denied the cities position and I was reinstated. Bottom line, these guys need a good attorney. Mine cost me $5,000.
ON THE NAME OF GOD, MAY HE TAKE MY FAMILY- IT IS ALL TRUE. WEISS AND KIRBY, CONSIDER THE POLICE BOARD TO BE BELOW THEM. YOU GO THROUGH HELL THE TRUTH COMES OUT, AND THEY THEY STILL FUCK YOU. THEY ARE LIKE LITTLE KIDS THAT DID NOT GET THEIR WAY.
YOU WILL NEVER BEAT US DOWN. THE HARDER YOU HIT, THE STRONGER WE BECOME.
"For the record, all three officers are hard workers."
According to Whom? Who sets that bullshit criteria? That should be the arbiter when it comes to who stays & who goes? Give me a break,
Illogical Idiocy @ it's best...
yea, though i walk through the valley of the shadow of lying bosses i fear not......for i do as little as possible in an effort to ensure my phisical and finacial security.
i have witnessed how they have our backs.
While this is disturbing, let's face it, the police board has reinstated more than one officer who should be in jail but isn't because iad is a complete joke in this department.
I really think SCC should post a Countdown Calendar on the home page for the day that J-Fed's contract expires.
And start thinking about who will replace him.
Anonymous said...
How about this novel idea: Don't put covers on your license plates...make sure your city sticker and plates are up to date. No tickets. After all, aren't we supposed to enforce the laws? If we don't obey them, who will?
No whining!
3/14/2009 12:36:00 AM
I always do, since my first car. The point is the Department of Revenue is looking for heads in our parking lots. They might find some, certainly not many. And certainly never me.
However, I see their employees parking illegally all the time, including marked Dept of Revenue vehicles. And they are ticketed accordingly.
After all, aren't we supposed to enforce the laws?
Cover your own ass and watch your own back. It is much easier to not get jammed up in the first place than to get your job back in this environment.
Last night on an interview program a southside black female alderman was screaming about the violence in englewood and demanding the police take a pro-active approach towards gang violence an such,
This is the same alderman who has decried police brutality and aggressive police work towards black teens who are/aren't in gangs, depending on who is telling the tale.
You can't have it both ways. Police work isn't like that, once you slap down your aggressive pro-active police you can't then turn around and tell them to be aggressive and pro-active. Not with Jody Weis looking to send aggressive/pro-active police to prison if they stray even a bit outside the lines.
I heard these words from Jody Weis: "If police officers are 100% right he will back us 100%"
So, I intend to be 150% right and not get fired or sent to Federal prison for being too aggressive.
Show me any where in any General Order where it says I have to be pro-active or aggressive. The Superintendent demands I be 100% right all the time, that is exactly what he is going to get.
I intend to make it to my retirement without a detour to Federal Court.
What is J-Fed going to do when the poster children for SOS stupidity CS and TS return for duty on Monday??
Yep - all the bosses and the City are out to fire good and just P.O.s. They wake up in the morning and go through a list of hard working P.O.s and pick a couple out to mess with and ruin their lives. Oh yeah, the MAN has nothing better to do than jam us up. Where is Mel Gibson with the painted blue face when we need him?
For those of you who still go out and do proactive police work, see what it gets you. Time for the whole department citywide to handle calls and nothing more. Fuck J-Fed, Shortsahnk and the top brass. They tell you to go and work, then stick it up your ass when you do. Do your job, nothing more. Let's use a show of force to send a message about how sick we are of being shit on every chance they get. I'll handle jobs and back up other coppers, but nothing more. Let Shitcago burn. They give less than a shit about us, why bust your ass.
I smell a lawsuit in cook county, make sure to seek punitives against JPUD.
JPUD has got your back, and he shows it everyday. This guy gets off on firing policemen and treating adult police like children. If you don't believe it try watching one of his streaming videos of reading his propaganda PAX 501, all he says in these publications is straight lies. Keep working your ass off for this guy, I think you will have a spot in TRU, MSF or GEU.
There is a Police board for a reason. For the most part they have been very fair in their rulings. They have seen thru the b.s. that the over-zealous IAD investigators have attempted to use in their sustained cases. Too bad that the board doesnt do as some arbitrators have in the past and put to paper their opinion of the conduct of the investigators duting the course of their investigations. I have won grievances where a sergeant was called everything but a clown in the decision of the arbitrator. Until this too is done, these coppers who work at IAD and enjoy screwing hard-working coppers, will not cease. Not saying that they are all wanting to stick it up our tails, but rather saying that one is too many! Chief Skahill, please review some of those cases that are sustained. If you can review those that were signed off by D.K. and are separation cases. When she had it in for you, she gave marching orders to her pets to sustain no matter what. Remember, your name becomes a defendeant in Federal Court as well. Hear rumors that a group is currently in negotiation with a big-shot attorney to sue the department over lousy investigations and they have IAD specialists on board who are going to testify ! Stay tuned-D.K.-you wont be able to sweep this one under your rug.
did the sup reopen the case of the po that allegedly took pictures of the girl behind wgn , arrested but beat case in court
rumor was case was continued until witness didnt show up
Hey Lt in IAD-where you going to work your part-time making cash money-since they closed Sports Corner? Wasnt that a liquor establishment?? Arent you assigned to the Confidential Section?? Hmmm, do as I say and not as I do...
another reason not to do anything except run down your jobs and hang paper when required. i am calling my congressman monday morning and asking him to place the blue shirt chicago patrol officer on the federal endangered species list. we are becoming extinct with no reproduction in sight.====>----
Weis is the ultimate back stabber, supported by an incompetent Kirby.
Anonymous said...
How about this novel idea: Don't put covers on your license plates...make sure your city sticker and plates are up to date. No tickets. After all, aren't we supposed to enforce the laws? If we don't obey them, who will?
No whining!
3/14/2009 12:36:00 AM
Hey STROKE!!! If we don't obey the "Laws", as you put it, by failing to purchase a city sticker or have some other PARKING VIOLATION, then why can't we just get a ticket like everyone else? Why can't the inspector show up at roll call and cut you a ticket every day you are in violation?
To the dope -- you must have posted on the wrong thread-- I responded harshly because I hadn't yet scrolled down to read the posts on tickets at work.... I thought you were alluding to someone whining about getting written up for a minor parking violaiton.....
Anonymous said...
How about this novel idea: Don't put covers on your license plates...make sure your city sticker and plates are up to date. No tickets. After all, aren't we supposed to enforce the laws? If we don't obey them, who will?
No whining!
3/14/2009 12:36:00 AM
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Can I write myself a ticket, "boss"?
He denied the cities position and I was reinstated. Bottom line, these guys need a good attorney. Mine cost me $5,000.
3/14/2009 02:16:00 AM
I hope you are suing the piss out of them.
Anonymous said...
ON THE NAME OF GOD, MAY HE TAKE MY FAMILY- IT IS ALL TRUE. WEISS AND KIRBY, CONSIDER THE POLICE BOARD TO BE BELOW THEM. YOU GO THROUGH HELL THE TRUTH COMES OUT, AND THEY THEY STILL FUCK YOU. THEY ARE LIKE LITTLE KIDS THAT DID NOT GET THEIR WAY.
YOU WILL NEVER BEAT US DOWN. THE HARDER YOU HIT, THE STRONGER WE BECOME.
3/14/2009 02:21:00 AM
This is most likely true! Just look at how bad COZZI was fucked over,if your to stupid to ralize you get in shit your gone,then you get what you deserve! I can remember the story of leo the medal guy telling everyone 1 on 1 "Don't worry kid I/we have your back"! Guess it is true if only to twist the knife!!
"For the record, all three officers are hard workers."
According to Whom? Who sets that bullshit criteria? That should be the arbiter when it comes to who stays & who goes? Give me a break,
Illogical Idiocy @ it's best...
3/14/2009 02:58:00 AM
great comment, i was going to write this. does anyone have an answer for it? what is a hard worker? is it someone who has a hard time with this job? is it someone who does a lot of work? is it someone who makes a lot of arrests? i personally think someone who is doing a lot of work for the department now is a fool, we have no contract, we have almost no rights when it comes to getting in any kind of trouble, why do a lot of work??? answer the radio and don't do anything else, best way to go now a days.
Enough already with Jag Fed!! How about our Union open up and do something already. I can honestly say that every officer I know are not happy or content with the current Superintendent of Police. It is time to sound off out loud so all can hear us.
I am lucky enough to never have had to worry about losing my job. I imagine if I found myself in such a position I could come up with several names of officers, all of them white shirts, who should have been fired and possibly jailed that were allowed to keep their jobs. The Chicago way. Maybe I'd keep my job too. Maybe I'd get made a Captain...
(OT) From fop updates don't forget your letters of support for Bill Cozzi! BILL COZZI CHARACTER LETTERS 03/04/09
Bill Cozzi is scheduled for sentencing on April 30, 2009. Here is your chance to show your support for Bill. Please take the time to write a character letter on Bill's behalf.
While there is not any right or wrong way to write a letter your letter should comment on the positive aspects of Bill's character as a person. You should include your identity, how you know Bill, and how long you have known him. If you know of acts of Bill helping others or providing extraordinary service to the community please include them in your letter. You should also consider including how this case has affected Bill's life.
This letter should not include your opinion of Bill's innocence or how unfairly you believe he was treated by the Department of government.
Your letter should be addressed to:
Honorable Blanche Manning
United States District Court for the Northern District of Illinois
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Chicago, IL 60604
*** Do Not mail your letter directly to Judge Manning ***
Send your letter to the FOP Unit 541 via Department mail or mail to the FOP at 1412 W. Washington Blvd., Chicago, IL. 60607.
All letters will be forwarded to Bill's attorney who will present them to Judge Manning
Anonymous said...
How about this novel idea: Don't put covers on your license plates...make sure your city sticker and plates are up to date. No tickets. After all, aren't we supposed to enforce the laws? If we don't obey them, who will?
No whining!
3/14/2009 12:36:00 AM
How about this asshat STFU! I live in garfield ridge and throughout this area and clearing tahey are writing anyone for anything,like for being parked in "your" driveway! Guess they are scared to go after the assholes that don't pay anything! We need a major taxpayer revolt and soon! How about we lock up daley and the 50 for theft of city services?
I've been around for awhile, never heard of an innocent copper having to worry about things like this. Just saying.
Like I have said before. WE CAN NOT TRUST ANY BOSS! No one has our backs, PERIOD! They tell us they do hoping we will believe them, so we will work harder for them and make them look good. We are alone and in the end it's our responsibility to watch our own backs and make the right decisions. They are playing a numbers game everyday, but in the end it's only the blue shirt that can get hurt by playing their numbers game. J-Fed is not one of us!
This trend of vindictively screwing innocent coppers has been going on for awhile. I think that the impending backlash of civil litigation will mitigate some of the injustices.
I also hear that someone has or is dropping a huge dime to the G about being screwed over unjustly.
We definitely live in interesting times.
did the sup reopen the case of the po that allegedly took pictures of the girl behind wgn , arrested but beat case in court
rumor was case was continued until witness didnt show up
Probably not, the guy involved was a sergeant, and his mommy was an exempt. They'll never re-open that one...and he did what he was accused of too.
" Anonymous said...
How about this novel idea: Don't put covers on your license plates...make sure your city sticker and plates are up to date. No tickets. After all, aren't we supposed to enforce the laws? If we don't obey them, who will?
No whining!
3/14/2009 12:36:00 AM"
You quit whinning shortshanks !!! When the parking enforcement people get fed up with your crap, I guess you'll have to fund your personal agendas by doing it yourself.
The Feds came to Chicago in the 70's, all you crooks made them want to stay forever.
3 hots and a cot are in your future Richie !!!!!!!!
Don't bend over to pick up the soap in the shower !!
Anonymous said...
Hey Lt in IAD-where you going to work your part-time making cash money-since they closed Sports Corner? Wasnt that a liquor establishment?? Arent you assigned to the Confidential Section?? Hmmm, do as I say and not as I do...
3/14/2009 10:32:00 AM
Too bad you didn't report him to the Inspector General when he was still working there. I would have. Those guys can be real assholes.
I heard these words from Jody Weis: "If police officers are 100% right he will back us 100%"
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100% right is a tough standard.
RUMOR IF TRUE,
J-Fed has decided to fire all police officers and replace them with reitred federal agents and midgets from the circus ...
IF TRUE ..
You mean CORRUPTION COUNSEL, don't you?
plate covers and how about all the cars that take up 2-3 parking spots. Assholes!
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272625344.shtml
I think the J-fed doomsday clock is a good idea,however the question of who will replace him is mute,who will "WANT"
to replace him is the question that should be asked.Who of good quality would want to replace J-fed knowing that when they accept this job they will be enheriting a very large dept. of officers with low/no morale,officers who feel they can't trust the people in charge because they are such cowards when it comes to defending the troops.The replacing Supt. will trully have a daunting task at hand in that who will be willing too put up with Daley's constant infering,with Daley's spies,the back stabbing that will take place,the public display that Daley holds you to when something goes wrong when in fact it's just percieved the wrong way.J-Fed claims he has our backs then here is one way he can persaude us to that fact: Don't have some politcally appointed hack to be the spokesperson whenever there's a police involved incident,"YOU"be the spokesperson.You do not have too release info. concerning the incident instead how about notifying the public that it's a fresh incident that has too be investigated first and let's not jump to any conclusion at this time.The perception is that every police involved incident that makes the news involves something the officer did wrong then later on you find out that it was "monday" morning quarterbacked too death because "Pookie" with his three middle teeth missing says "YEAH HE HAD A GUN,HE HAD A GUN BUT WHEN DA POLICEES TOLE HIM TO PUD IT DOWN HE DID AND DEY STILL SCHOT HIM".Remember the whole world is watching and who in their right mind will want to be the police supt. for the city of shitago.If you seperate the supt's job and the police dept's budget from Daley then you will have very good chance at turning this dept. around,if you don't then things will only get worse.Think about it if Daley had no control and could not enfleunce the police dept.'s budget and could not control the supt. of police this department would be much better off,because the supt. would not have too worry about Daley throwing them to the wolves,he/she could counter his every arguement of what it takes to control a police dept. the size of Chicago's and could even tell him to but out and let us handle it.
"J-Fed has decided to fire all police officers and replace them with reitred federal agents and midgets from the circus ...
IF TRUE ..
3/15/2009 09:55:00 AM"
So, what's the difference between a retreaded federal agent and a midget from the circus?
did the sup reopen the case of the po that allegedly took pictures of the girl behind wgn , arrested but beat case in court
rumor was case was continued until witness didnt show up
Probably not, the guy involved was a sergeant, and his mommy was an exempt. They'll never re-open that one...and he did what he was accused of too.
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The truth of this incident has never come out, and its a damn shame, so I'm going to say it. If it wasnt for an overzealous, police hating ASA supervisor, who was later arrested for being drunk in Joliet, the sgt would have never been charged. The victim was movie star groupie, a sports player stalker, married an illegal to keep in the country for money, had a drug/alcohol abuse problem, and never showed up for court once, not once. Even though witnesses appeared in court to testify that the victim is a patholical liar and to say that the victim said that she will never show up in court, the case was continued for 3years until the statute of limitations ran out, and the dirty ASA only then dropped the charges.
Give it a rest, you all should be ashamed of yourselves because you fell gullible to the victim's news interview and a vindictive ASA. Many detectives know the real story here, and the ASA should be held accountable for unlawful arrest of the sgt. And what is so ironic, he was charged by the ASA because of his mother's rank. Whether you like the sgt or not, he was railroaded and his family has suffered enough.
I overheard two sergeants talking the other day and heard some high grade B.S. It seems that an officer responded to a domestic disturbance and after handling the job the complainant called for a supervisor. She wanted a c.r. on the officer who handled the job. The sgt asked if the officer used foul language-no, did he hit you-no, did he raise his voice or yell at you-no, was his conduct unprofessional-no. Then what was the problem? I didn't like the way he looked at me, I felt intimidated. Of course the sgt didn't take the number. So the complainant calls IPRA who gladly took the number and contacted the sgt involved. IPRA told the sgt next time make things easy for the both of us and just get a c.r. number. What kind of shit is that? Now aside from not cursing these idiots out or slapping the living shit out of them (which we know a lot of them need and deserve)I have to sit in the mirror and practice how to look at someone without making them feel intimidated. All I can say is 3 more years and I'll be running for the border.
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