Hoffman For Mayor
On more than one occasion during his campaign for the U.S. Senate, voters told David Hoffman he was running for the "wrong office" -- the "right" one being mayor of Chicago.
Mayor Daley, who has not yet decided whether to seek a seventh term, sounded a bit defensive when asked whether he was impressed with Hoffman's maiden political voyage. The former inspector general earned the nickname "Abby Hoffman" for the bombs he threw at the mayor's office.
"Everybody worked hard. ... Everybody did a good job. ... I don't know why you pick one person. Why is that? I know. You're friends with him," Daley told a reporter.
Asked whether he's concerned about Hoffman running for mayor, Daley said, "I don't know. I don't know why you're asking about him. Boy, you're really good friends with him."
The mayor's comments unmasked a sore point in the Daley camp: that Hoffman used the power Daley gave him to embarrass the mayor, "create a platform to run for office out of City Hall" and become a media darling.
- Whoever comes after Daley is coming into a mess;
- There is no republican savior - it just ain't happening;
- Once the Machine cycle is broken, it becomes easier to disrupt the political order in future elections.
Why not Hoffman?
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
52 Comments:
CitizensAgainstDaley@gmail.com
Start at the top of the "barrel" and get rid of the rottenest of all the rotten apples first, ole shortshanks himself ! Then go down the ladder.
Can you imagine a City Hall without the stink of Daley & Co's blatant corruption ?
Hoffman For Mayor !!!!!!!!!
"Why not Hoffman?"
because he's gonna de-nut my chinaman?
Come on Hoffman!!! Since we don't have a prayer for a Republican to become Mayor, Hoffman is the next best thing. All the other scum would be just the same as Daley or worse. Also, how much fun would it be to watch the corrupt king daley stutter, stammer, double talk and lie during the campaign. Hoffman may not be a conservative, but you can bet he would not do business like Daley. We will know he is good for chicago when Meeks, Rush, Davis, Beavers and Jackson endorse Daley over Hoffman. Hey Kass or anyone listening lets put a spark under Hoffman's ass!
HOFFMAN FOR MAYOR!!!!!!
"Why not Hoffman?" The question should be "Why Daley?"
I haven't heard Hoffman say anything about possibly running or anyone ask him. I could have missed it, but has anyone heard the subject come up or has he made a comment?
Hoffman for Mayor!!!!
http://citizensagainstdaley.blogspot.com
For people who want a new Mayor of Chicago.
Some good pie in the sky talk. Truth is the career aldermen (Mell, Burke, etc ) will eat him up.
This is the only Mayor I've had the displeasure of working under for the Citizenry. I would hope the nightmare would end before I retire? Hoffman would be a Godsend.
Luke I am your father.
One of Hoffmann's investigators tried to jam me with my bosses and union.
Oh come on now ! Let’s not be foolishly naive children. Daley has set this guy up to look like a reformer and will play the role like he is afraid of him. Either Hoffman is intended as a spoiler to rob votes from a real reform candidate or he is the intended replacement for Daley.
Back in the 1940’s Chicago was an utter cesspool of vice and corruption. The citizens were crying out for reform. So the machine dumped Mayor Kelly in favor of a businessmen named Martin Kennelly. The machine had an understanding with Kennelly that he would only be a figurehead and the Cook County Democratic Central Committee would call the real shots. In Kennelly’s second term he managed to introduce hiring reforms that threatened the life’s blood of the machine, patronage. Therefore Kennelly found himself friendless and dumped in favor of Richard J. Daley who had just seized control of the Central Committee after the suspicious death of Alderman Clarence Wagner (who at the time held the 2nd most powerful office in city government, Chairman of the City Council Finance Committee). Wagner represented a faction of the party that was in completion with Daley for control. It was Wagner who kept Daley from being elected Chairman of the Central Committee on his first attempt. Approximately twenty-four hours later Wagner was dead and Daley was immediately elected Chairman. The felonious midget Daley II can manage the machine just as effectively from behind the scenes as party chairman as he can in the spotlight as mayor.
Let’s not be fool by this chump Hoffman, anyone touched by Daley is soiled and can not be trusted.
DALEY MUST GO !
Why not.
Daley does not lose elections. Those voting machines will spontaniously combust before they show results otherwise. Keep dreaming he is our Lord of Hosts, our King of Kings, our Master. Live with it.
Run Hoffman, RUN!
Hoffman will never win a democratic primary. Never. They will put in a black candidate with some name recognition (the new Roland Burris perhaps!) to split the vote.
As the Sun-Times said, the goal will be to make it to the run off, Hoffman can't do it. Say what you want, Hoffman will try to do it honestly, daley, of course, will not.
Hoffman's only chance is to run as a Republican in the primary and get to run against daley in the general election. I doubt he will do that. Besides, Hoffman reportedly spent a million bucks of his own money on the senate run. I guess he is tapped.
The business community already has the message, watch where the big donor money goes and it won't be to Hoffman. Good guy with not a ghost of a chance.
Daley will be mayor until he dies or steps down. It is clear he is not going to be indicted anytime soon.
Learn to like the feeling of daley giving it to us good and hard. We've been getting it for 20 years already, we should be used to it by now.
Outstanding choice for Mayor. You are absolutely correct that he is the best answer right now. An oursider like Hoffman would force aldermen to protect their slices of the pie by representing their constituents....the exact opposite of the current dynamic in which they are responsible only to the Mayor.
Say what you will about Washington and Vrdolyak, but they were far more responsive to the peoples needs....because they had to be.
The 80s were also a great time to be the police here. Not only was the job fun, but we made all of our labor gains back then because we were a constituency that Byrne, the 29, and Washington all needed to some extent. Democracy and electoral chaos are good for us.
The first real assault on our benefits came late in Washington's reign when Judson Minor decided to go after the retiree's health insurance. Washington died, Sawyer shelved that idea. Guess who revived it?
Go Hoffman!
Hoffman will never win a democratic primary. Never.
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That's about the only part of your post that makes any sense there kid, because THERE ARE NO DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES ANYMORE!
How long have you lived here?
Hoffman can and will beat Daley in 2011. Here's why.
Hoffman does not have the bad history and baggage of Daley.
Hoffman is smart and proven his bravery by standing up to Daley.
Daley does'nt have the widespread support that the Machine lackeys would like to think. His ineptitude,corruption and arrogance ;and punishing high taxes and fees have aliented the entire
cross sectional community of the city. His minimal support comes from the Machine hacks, underinformed ,or the affluent who has him in their pocket. Most city workers and their families detest him, the blacks have little or no faith in him because of his taxes, fees, and high crime in their communities.
All of the anonymous naysayers should take a sip of a tall cool glass of shut-the-hell-up. The ones that slam Hoffman can't or won't produce a cogent reason behind their dislike; nor can they provide a viable alternative.
It will be Mayor Hoffman in 2011, and he's going to ride in on a wave of coalesced support from liberals,the disenfranchised, and conservatives.
Daley, you're going to lose the mayoralty just like you lost the Olympics. And that's going to be a baeautiful day!
You know what, I'm tired of belaboring this point.
Letts do a Poll, Hoffman Vs Daley RIGHT NOW
My vote: Hoffman
The price of Daley's corrupt political machine is breaking us all. We have the highest taxes in the country because of his bullshit. What's next--a local income tax?
Getting rid of Daley is like getting rid of Saddam. Has to be done, but will leave a terrible mess.
We all beef about Daley. (I said "we" which includes me)
Hoffman would be a viable candidate. At least we know where he stands on clout, corruption and city services.
Anybody but Daley.
Well, almost anyone.
the only difference between daley and hitler is hitler got the olympics
Shanks is losing it big time. He is truly a psychopath, sociopath, lunatic, whatever. I love those blithering idiot moments that come so often these days. Time for a Jib Jab!
Why not SEISER FOR MAYOR????
In answer to your question. He is a Democrat, and as we have all seen, there's no such thing as a moderate democrat.
He will just be more efficient in raising taxes and shoving more entitlements to the walking dead at the expense of those that actually work for a living.
Some good pie in the sky talk. Truth is the career aldermen (Mell, Burke, etc ) will eat him up.
2/07/2010 02:15:00 AM
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That may be true but Hoffman was in a position to gather dirt on all of these alderman. Maybe Hoffman has just enough of an edge to keep them in check.
Just Saying...
Start at the top of the "barrel" and get rid of the rottenest of all the rotten apples first, ole shortshanks himself ! Then go down the ladder.
Can you imagine a City Hall without the stink of Daley & Co's blatant corruption ?
Hoffman For Mayor !!!!!!!!!
2/07/2010 12:31:00 AM
I agree with you about the rotten barrel analogy, but mare shanks is not at the top of the barrel.
mare shanks is the very "bottom of the barrel", in every sense of the phrase, which means, the whole barrel must go and a great start is Hoffman for Mayor!
David HOFFMAN for Mayor of Chicago in 2011!
Why is Hoffman good because he is not Daley? Many of you cheered jfed because he was an OUTSIDER. Hoffman is an extreme left winger. SCC you are right about a republican never winning in Chicago, but at the end of the day the difference between Daley and Hoffman will be about the same as the difference between Blago and Quinn. Maybe its a cop thing always looking for someone to save you. But really, outside of our personal hatred for short shanks we will just be replacing one ultra-liberal democrat with another. Remember Hope and Change. Ed Burke and Madigan will still keep the machine together. Hoffman is a weak sister which is why he most likely won't run. Did he get more votes than Alexi in Chicago? What is his stand on the issues or is he just not Daley?
Updated poll:
http://www.mychoice4mayor.com
Love it when Daley gets so defensive. He's like a little kid in grammar school.
Hoffman's only chance is to run as a Republican in the primary and get to run against daley in the general election. I doubt he will do that. Besides, Hoffman reportedly spent a million bucks of his own money on the senate run. I guess he is tapped.
I have to disagree, where is the Republican base in the city? Is there one? I don't think there are enough Republicans in the city to make much of a difference and yes I'm Republican.
4-20-10 will b a great day the RATT WILL FINALLY UNLEASH THE INFESTATION CALLED THE HOFFMAN CAMPAIGN !!ITS YOUR NECK FROM THIS RATT CAGE MR MAYOR!!
Anonymous said...
One of Hoffmann's investigators tried to jam me with my bosses and union.
2/07/2010 03:05:00 AM
"...tried to" is the operative phrase here. That sounds like it didn't actually happen (you getting jammed, that is).
If Daley wanted to "jam" you with your bosses and union, YOU CAN BET he would have jammed you, no questions asked.
I don't know that Hoffman had anything to do with you NOT getting jammed but at least it didn't happen and you survived the situation. Daley would have buried you and NO ONE would be interested in the truth!
Having listened to Hoffman debate and interview on TV, I tend to believe that beneath his reformer exterior, there is another machine Dem waiting to blossom into a full blown moron.
He's the only candidate with ethics and that's enough to start.
Just imagine the information that Hoffman has about the corruption in this city. I'd pay top dollar to see the debate. If everyone that has been fucked by the machine doesn't get behind a strong candidate then this city will be Detroit in five years.
Hoffman for Mayor!!!!
Dump Daley!!!!
Where do I get the T-shirt and lawn signs?
Time for dickhead Daley to go out to pasture with his dumb parking meter ass!
Payback is gonna be a bitch!
Anonymous said...
Hoffman will never win a democratic primary. Never.
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That's about the only part of your post that makes any sense there kid, because THERE ARE NO DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES ANYMORE!
How long have you lived here?
2/07/2010 06:13:00 AM
Only since Harry Truman was president.
When you go into the polling place (like last week, Feb 2) they ask you if you want a Democratic or Republican or Green Party ballot. Those were the ballots available in Chicago. Unless you do a write-in.
Did you vote last week? Did they ask you?
If you took a Democratic ballot, that is the Democratic primary. If Hoffman is on the Democratic ballot he will get screwed some way, some how. Maybe many ways.
Hoffman will never win a democratic primary. Never.
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he did purty good in the polls the other day. Much better than any new comer for a position so I beg to differ.... Never say never bud.
Where do I sign up to assist in the "Hoffman for Mayor" campaign?
Anyone but Daley and the Machine! Scott Lee Cohen even looks good
Only since Harry Truman was president.
When you go into the polling place (like last week, Feb 2) they ask you if you want a Democratic or Republican or Green Party ballot. Those were the ballots available in Chicago. Unless you do a write-in.
Did you vote last week? Did they ask you?
If you took a Democratic ballot, that is the Democratic primary. If Hoffman is on the Democratic ballot he will get screwed some way, some how. Maybe many ways.
We're afraid the first poster is correct - there are primaries, but only for state-wide offices. Chicago has an open primary now and if one candidate gets 50%-plus-1 there is no general election. Daley hasn't run a full scale election in two or three terms.
"Anonymous said...
Hoffman will never win a democratic primary. Never.
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That's about the only part of your post that makes any sense there kid, because THERE ARE NO DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES ANYMORE!
How long have you lived here?
2/07/2010 06:13:00 AM
Only since Harry Truman was president.
When you go into the polling place (like last week, Feb 2) they ask you if you want a Democratic or Republican or Green Party ballot. Those were the ballots available in Chicago. Unless you do a write-in.
Did you vote last week? Did they ask you?
If you took a Democratic ballot, that is the Democratic primary. If Hoffman is on the Democratic ballot he will get screwed some way, some how. Maybe many ways.
2/07/2010 04:48:00 PM"
The election for city offices is a non-partisan general election.
It is not a political party primary election.
As long as a candidate for a given city office receives 50% + 1 of the total votes cast, that candidate is elected to that particular city office.
If no candidate receives 50% + 1 of the total votes cast, then a subsequent run-off election is held between the two candidates who received the most votes. The candidate who receives the most votes cast in the run-off election is elected to that particular city office.
Thus, since the exchange of comments in question is in reference to David Hoffman's possible candidacy for a city office, ie., the office of mayor, said candidacy would not be within the confines of a political party primary election.
Granted, there appears to be only one political party currently in existence within this city, and, further, that the non-partisan nature of our city elections occasionally strongly resembles a multi-candidate political party primary election, but, technically, it is not.
So, you are both right, more or less.
Now kiss and make up.
Having listened to Hoffman debate and interview on TV, I tend to believe that beneath his reformer exterior, there is another machine Dem waiting to blossom into a full blown moron.
You got all of that from a few tv and radio soundbites, huh ?
You're a regular Sherlock Holmes.
All that being said, none of you AntiHoffman-Closet- Daleyites still have yet to provide a viable alternative.
You know why? cause you can't.
Hoffman will beat Daley like a bastard stepchild.
And even if Hoffman is a closet Machine flunky...
HE AIN'T DALEY !
At best you'll have a great new mayor...at worst it'll be term limits in action!
DUMP DALEY !!!
HOFFMAN 2011!!!
David Hoffman, when you are elected the Mayor of the City of Chicago, please, promptly kick that piece of shit, arrogant asshole, lumbering, flat-footed "Commander" Sam Roti, of the shortshank's body guard detail, out the front door of City Hall. I cannot wait to see it!
•There is no republican savior
borrow and spend is only slightly better than tax and spend. the republicans are the same shit as the democrats. just as power crazed. just as corrupt. just as anxious to spend other peoples money. don't be naive. they both are in the game for themselves, not us.
City workers for HOFFMAN in 2011!!!
"Difference between Daley and........Hitler got the Olmypics".....Funniest post this year!!!!!
NinthWard said...
Hoffman can and will beat Daley in 2011. Here's why.
Hoffman does not have the bad history and baggage of Daley...
This guy has no history or baggage....really. Well, looks like you do not have any friends or family who are or were employed by the City. Hoffman will NEVER carry the vote in the City just as he did NOT in his last attempt to become elected. Hoffman allowed his office to screw over too many city employees who did no wrong doing while trying to further his personal cause against Daley. Countless cases have been proven not guilty by the simple fact that his office worked off of hearsay and did not take the time to do their jobs correctly and view every single piece of evidence they collected to make sure the ones they accused were guilty. Many people have proven themselves not guilty by evidence collected by HIS office, however, this fact NEVER surfaces. His office was too busy bullying and threatening people and trying to trip them up by asking the same question 10 different ways when there was no basis to begin with because they already knew they were NOT guilty but it was just too much fun to torment them. You see investigations were nothing more than a game to His office. They would weed out the weak and feed off of what they could keep going for years and years knowing full well the people they tormented were not guilty from the beginning because you see when you keep the investigations going for years, yes I said years, it appears as if you are uncovering a goldmine of corruption when all you really are doing is keeping yourself in a job for another year while you ruin someone else's life. Real good way to spend the taxpayer’s money. These folks who have been wrongly accused have family and friends who will make sure he does not get elected for the simple fact he allowed or contributed to many lives being ruined or folks having their lives turned upside down during the process of proving their innocence. The Sun Times only runs stories about what his office "alleged" against folks and NEVER do you see a story from them when no guilt was proven clearing these folks of any wrongdoing. You NEVER see the Trib running anything about this guy. Daley may be bad but this guy is NOT what the City needs.
Even if Daley does not run next term,or is defeated, the damage his machine has done in the past 20 years might never be undone!! Only an absolutely honest and ethical mayor can even come close to reversing the long term harm that has been done to this city. I am not sure who that is exactly, but I think Hoffman comes close!! The state should get rid of " home rule" and never pass any laws that exempt " cities over one million". What is good for the rest of the state is good enough for Chicago. You want an example, compare the chicago police pension with the pension system of other Illinois cities! You would be shocked.
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