Dead Felon Avoided Gun Charge
From the comment section:
- Surprised it hasn't leaked yet, so now I'll do it -- officers in 013 picked up the shithead that the first "armed and dangerous 80-year old" killed as he was burglarizing the vet's home. Seems they caught him breaking into a car near a building housing senior citizens and in the car with him was gun.
The ASAs REFUSED to let the officers charge him with UUW because the gun wasn't actually in his possession.
So, depending on how you look at what ended up happening to the shithead, ASAs either fucked up again or inadvertantly ridded the world of another criminal parasite.
Maybe the ASA's are in on a plot to keep violent felons on the street where they might run into a few armed citizens and come to a fitting end? That would take a lot of coordination though. Can't argue with the results though.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Keep this shit up, Anita. Bullets are way cheaper than funerals (for the law abiding citizen, anyhow).
Another one got "capped" in 011 after he ran from the poleeze and busted into someone's house. They shot his stoopid ass.
What happened occurred for a reason. He's permanently off the streets, and no longer a danger to the good citizens; he's also no longer a drain on the taxpayer or the county jail. It all worked out in the end.
That was Divine Intervention.
http://www.foxnews.com//us/2010/06/04/police-officer-asked-leave-portland-coffee-shop/?test=latestnews
Read the article, an on-duty officer was asked to leave by a co-owner of the coffee shop after he purchased a cup of coffee. I thought the liberals were bad here.
OT:
I think this is the first time they said the other driver had been drinking and that the other driver blew a stop sign.
Not saying who's guilty of what and who did what that night but it's about damn time BOTH SIDES of the story are known. The media put it all on the officer.
Ardelean was off-duty and driving home from the Martini Ranch tavern in the Near North neighborhood shortly before 3 a.m. when he swerved into the oncoming lane at more than 60 mph as he passed a car that had slowed to park, prosecutors alleged. Ardelean's SUV smashed into the car driven by Flores' friend, Erick Lagunas, as it ran a stop sign at Damen and Oakdale avenues.
Both drivers had been drinking. Lagunas' autopsy revealed a blood-alcohol level of 0.074, just below the legal limit. Ardelean was ordered by a supervisor to give a breath test almost eight hours after the crash. He registered a 0.032.
Send the ASA's name and a copy of the case report to the media for investigation. These ASA stories are getting old and something needs to be done.
JUST DONT PUSH A STATES ATTORNEY.
May God steady the hands of those who seek justice and peace... IncLuding the ConstabLes of this region, who's minds and hearts are aLways under scrutiny!
Six years ago I,was 53 years old.I,was serving a summons on a top States Atty.sister,her son States nephew,jumps out of a car threatens to beat my ass,my heart condition and copd prevents my fighting ability so I,pepper spray him and call Glenview Police.Police show up,family states I,attacked them,I am also sure they told the Sgt. of thier clout.bottom line car searched,gun found,charged UUW,I,had no priors,the guy I,sprayed had 6, 5 for domestics,never an offer for a plea from the State,Now I,am a convicted felon.And this POS is not charged.What a fn system !!
JUST DONT PUSH A STATES ATTORNEY ??Why NOT???
Hello suntimes and tribune you need to put this out there.
Felony charges are only approved if the victim is a ASA.
multiple convicted felon fights police, no visible injuries...FELONY DENIED.
Convict burglar in car with gun,,,FELONY DENIED.
tempers fare between two lawyers,educated public defender with no criminal history scuffles with ASA resulting in no injuries AUTOMATIC FELONY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Many years ago, I as a sergeant had an Officer call the hot line for agg battery charges, standing next to the Officer when the A.S.A. wanted to refuse his request I said in a load voice, hang up and call the States Attorney,
Charges were authorized. There is more than one way to get charges.
Let's face it, ASA's hates us more than they hate the people they suppose to prosecute. Calling them to get a felony approval is like getting a root canal. That's why I don't even bother wasting my time and charge these fools misdemeanor. They'll be back on the street next day anyway.
Next election, ABA--Anyone but Alvarez.
It's our faults (as citizens). We allow politicians to subside our fears with new law after new law and forget to make sure our government enforces it. When will, Illinois, cook and Chicago realize this? I vote never. Because we're dumb and can't look past the surface. Daley puts flower pots and forces mixed income housing into the city and suburbs emptying the projects into our laps and causing crime to skyrocket everywhere else but even out to equal with every place else where the buildings were. A president is voted into office as "change" because he's half black, without thought that he's from the fucked up Chicago politics, which is what is important! I have an MBA and I'll be the first to tell you college is good, you need it but it has taken away from commonsense. If you're anything but liberal, you're controversal. Although we'll never be able to see what we see and have our knowledge on how things really our we can get our asses on the ballets and in the booths.
Another perfect example of we NEED "carry and conceal" weapons law for all law-abiding citizens!
The Courts and State's Attorneys cannot or refuse to put this garbage away, then it is definitely Charlie Bronson time!
SO Fuck You Mayor Daley and your anti-gun garbage while you and your family is protected by a dozens of tax paid bodyguards while citizens have to fend for themselves in their own homes!
Hopefully you'll be gone soon too you piece of shit of a Mayor!
Da Pelon
OT from a prior post:
Let me see if I have this right:
- Lakefront getting out of control; no Summer Mobile Force
- 2nd largest PD in the country; no arson unit, no auto theft unit
- helicopter coverage; about non-existent
- dedicated firearms training facility; none
- 2-man cars; about non-existent.
But...
- MSF, TRU, GEU; tons of guys
- money for OT initiatives but none for hiring; standard
- event numbers and missions; endless,
and...
- overworked patrol division including beat cars, tact and wagons
- overworked detectives; amazing they get done what they can
- dimished supervisory rank; "can I have a watch commander please"
and finally...
a dimished capacity for tru understanding of reality by Shortshanks and J-Fled.
6/03/2010 09:00:00 AM
IGNORANCE, the decisionmakers that have effected the above are banking on this.
ask the fop how many grievances have been filed? we have young officers who do NOT know the provisions of their contract, let alone take a stand.
these 'special units' fall outside many of the provisons of the contract which is what they are designed to do, that is why when the officers volunteer to these 'special units' the officer are agreeing to fall outside the contract.
DISmantling of the CPD, UNDERmining the contract, patronizing the exempt positions which are only obtained by clout (meritorious). Experienced officers are retiring with their knowledge & experience leaving the younger inexperienced officers with no knowledge of their contract in their wake.
KNOWLEDGE & EXPERIENCE is power, young inexperienced IGNORANT officers can be brainwashed & formed by the powers that be with promises of bullshit...the young officers will follow until they f**k up, then they will learn but it will be too late and what they will really learn is that they are disposable & replaceable.
the daley crime family rejoices in this; he finally has CPD by its nuts AND ONLY A CRIMINAL KNOWS THE JOY & SATISFACTION OF GETTING 'ONE OVER ON A COP.' daley is like the sh**thead mearday, but the difference is he has a high school diploma.
GOD BLESS CPD during these turbulent times, and thank GOD, SCC gives a voice to a forum in search of truth.
In a county that caters to the underclass it comes as no suprise that this happened. If the law abiding only knew how little the States Attorney Office in the County of Cook wanted to prosecute offenders they wod never leave thier homes. They have created no dear of the law or police. The Office just gets worse as the days go by.
These ASA's are fuckin nuts. They should be brought up on official Misconduct charges for not doing their jobs which is to protect us from Criminals.
Are we finally done with the Greek chorus family on the JA case? How many times does this case have to be killed? Hope they don't get a dime in the civil case.
In the 90's, my brother got mixed up with drugs and all the associated bullshit that goes with it. He got popped, did a well-deserved full year in the poke and came out bound and determined to leave that shit behind him. He got in with a good trade union, worked his way through apprenticeship and now, makes a great living, has a great family, nice lake place up in Michigan, etc. In short, he most definitely 'turned his life around'.
Needless to say, the process wasn't easy and he faced some tribulations along the way because of his background- some fair, some probably not fair- but he worked through it.
Every time I hear some miserable shitstain baby-mama uttering the phrase 'turning their life around' in the context of their rodent child who reaped the comeuppance of their own criminal activity, I want to puke.
Newsflash to the media, reverends, baby-mamas, etc: there really are people out there who are trying to or have "turned their lives around" from mistakes made in the past. They're pretty hard to spot, though, since THEY AREN'T GETTING ARRESTED, THEY AREN'T INVOLVED WITH BULLSHIT.
It's just mind-boggingly hypocritical to babble about how 'good' someone is or how they're 'turning their lives around' in the context of their immediate involvement in criminal activity or association with criminals.
How did the coppers write the paper?
If they never connected him to the gun (which I suspect they did not) then why would anyone think that he would be charged with the gun?
Most felony review ASA's have no balls and are scared.
May God steady the hands of those who seek justice and peace... IncLuding the ConstabLes of this region, who's minds and hearts are aLways under scrutiny!
FinaLLy! A Like minded souL scribes..
This morning, my basement toiLet was beLching the words of your post in morse code... Now I check out SCC and poof ---- My keyboard is broken..... Premonition?????? Coincidence??????? Not LikeLy........
Godspeed to you, oh soothsayer for the misunderstood masses!!!!!!!!!
Can Flint Taylor and Loevy sue the ASA's for a wrongful death?
It seems that the individual would be alive if they had done their job!
This is WAY off topic but check out this story from the Wall Street Journal on Detroit.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704292004575230532248715858.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_3#articleTabs%3Darticle
If you click on the interactive graphic and photo link you'll see some interesting stuff from their police chief. Turn on your speakers.
The man actually gets out on the streets and does patrol work. It's not just for the cameras either. This is a common occurrence for him
Imagine that. A working police chief who actually knows something about policing and walks down the steps into a basement in a vacant house to clear it.
Where is this place they call Detroit? It must be a separate universe because I've never heard of big city police chiefs actually doing that.
This happens way to much. Be careful out there everyone.
JUST DONT PUSH A STATES ATTORNEY- because that is a felony, for certain.
Mayor Richard Daley said today that a California man was welcome to disagree with his positions, but nobody should resort to threats against someone else's life to make that point.
Daley spoke publicly for the first time about Christopher Traynor Fox's May 27 arrest on charges that he threatened to kill the mayor.
"This is America, you can say many things," Daley said. "And people maybe disagree with your political viewpoint, but they should never threaten anybody.
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this dickhead said, maybe i should put this rifle up your butt and gets away with it. then has the gall to say this to the press. he has lost it. daley's rules first and then the rest of normal societies rules. this idiot needs a handler, other mayors must be thinking wtf is wrong with this guy.
It's a shame the media never tells these stories and the public will never know them. Chicago Cook County is the joke of America's justice system. Cook County is the one place where crime does pay and the bad guy usually gets away. The cook county justice system is a deterent to hard police work. If anyone wants to know why, just look at the political party that controlls cook county.
ASAs fucked up? I'm in federal court now because ASAs fucked up, lazy, and stupid. But I am going to testify and the jury will hear the truth.
this dickhead said, maybe i should put this rifle up your butt and gets away with it. then has the gall to say this to the press. he has lost it. daley's rules first and then the rest of normal societies rules. this idiot needs a handler, other mayors must be thinking wtf is wrong with this guy.
I wonder why the reporter never filed a report? Maybe she just laughed it off, knowing who she was dealing with. Or maybe she tried to and was told by her bosses to stop otherwise she would find herself out of a job.
Needless to say I hope Daley's words and actions are brought up before this poor guy's judge.
Christ! I'm just fooling myself. This guy is facing prison time only because Daley will lean on everyone involved in this case.
MAY BE THE NARRATIVE SHOULD HAVE WENT LIKE THIS.
R/O OBSERVED WEAPON AFTER IT WAS POINTED AT R/O'S. OFFENDER DROPPED WEAPON TO THE GROUND FROM HIS RIGHT HAND. R/O RETRIEVED WEAPON IMMEDIATELY.
R/O'S QUESTIONED OFFENDER WHO RELATED THAT "ITS NOT HIS GUN AND HE WAS JUST HOLDING IT FOR PROTECTION".
IF U CANT TIGHTEN THE REPORT MAKE IT FOUND WEAPON AND SAVE EVERY ONE TIME.
The ASAs REFUSED to let the officers charge him with UUW because the gun wasn't actually in his possession.
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I hate to say this, but if his actions did not meet the legal definition of the crime, the ASA is doing the right thing.
I think you would have a very difficult time showing that this case met the all the legal requirements for Agg UUW. Maybe UUW, but no felony.
Blame the legislature for writing a law that is so convoluted no one really understands it.
http://www.foxnews.com//us/2010/06/04/police-officer-asked-leave-portland-coffee-shop/?test=latestnews
Read the article, an on-duty officer was asked to leave by a co-owner of the coffee shop after he purchased a cup of coffee. I thought the liberals were bad here.
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The shop has a right to refuse service to anyone (short of civil rights violations).
It might be that the shop's clientèle is such that cops are a drag on business.
Plenty of coffee shops around. Go somewhere your business is appreciated.
"Convict burglar in car with gun, FELONY DENIED."
--6/05/2010 10:23:00 AM
In the meantime, in the same county --
Man with clean record in all fifty states for fifty years allegedly bruises woman. Police not called. Woman gets it into her head to stop by the hospital about three days later -- after going shopping, doing other errands, riding around on buses in normal routine, etc. -- and all hell breaks loose. Hospital has "protocol" for this, written by some woman. Proud of it. Described in newspaper articles.
Gigantic machine starts up. All stops pulled out by ASA/"Special Victims"/"women's shelter" axis, woman terrorized by them into using shelter even though helpless man is being held on $100,000 bond which ASA is insanely trying to double.
Automatic, instantaneous order of protection, all communication legally cut off. Despite this, woman writes letters, sends commissary money to man in jail, tries to drop charges, but no one is listening.
State picks up case like mad dog shaking a rag doll, won't let go. Guns seized during illegal search and misdemeanor "failure to register" (expired registrations, not re-registerable -- Terrence Gainer's legacy booby-trap)subsequently increased to felony possession due to expired FOID. (Expiration was on account of guy being busy trying to live. He had the forms, and was trying to find a coin machine to get the photos needed -- the machines had been taken out of all the stores he knew about. The day is only so long, and people only have two hands...)
Man goes straight to prison, feet never even touch ground, $50,000 worth of possessions stolen in meantime, family torn apart, household dissolved, life ruined.
Once conviction obtained, State's Attorney's office rewards woman with piece of paper bearing address of homeless shelter.
Have a nice day.
Police officers know what even a misdemeanor domestic conviction will do to their career, a la Lautenberg; this is why an extralegal mechanism is maintained to deal with police domestic problems outside the system just described.
Smart -- and who cares how it looks?
"Ardelean was...driving home from...the...tavern...shortly before 3 a.m. when he swerved into the oncoming lane at more than 60 mph as he passed a car that had slowed to park, (smashing) into the car driven by Flores' friend, Erick Lagunas, as it ran a stop sign...Both drivers had been drinking."
--6/05/2010 06:03:00 AM
The streets are dangerous around closing time -- somehow the drunks find each other, like two ships on the open ocean inexorably drawn towards each other until they collide. It's too weird.
Reminds me of the drunk copper who hit the drunk vandals on the expressway. Same "communitee ees outrage, promeeseeng jung lives cut short." Wasn't one of the idiots on the xway a grad student or something? Not like he's expected to know better.
By the way -- what were the results of the tox screens on the "honor students" on the class excursion who stole the boats and drowned in the middle of the night on the Fox River -- was it last year?
The taxpayers picked up the funeral expenses -- what's the story, huh? We're waiting.
"An on-duty officer was asked to leave by a co-owner of the coffee shop after he purchased a cup of coffee. I thought the liberals were bad here."
--6/05/2010 03:22:00 AM
Tell the m____erf____er to call the People's Revolutionary Council if he needs help.
...and you wonder why I was laughing so hard when a participant in a "drumming circle" at one of those liberal colleges got pulmonary anthrax from the half-cured skin of the authentic native drum head and died...
a citizen troller wonders if because the gun wasn't outdoors, there is no crime. This assumes of course the gun found in the car was not a search incidental to arrest and therefore since it was "indoors" it wasn't a good find? Maybe I'll just let you guys figure it out. This whole indoor/outdoor homicide still has me scratching my ass trying to figure it out.
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