Out of Control ATV
This looks ugly (here's the link if the embed doesn't work) :
At least a dozen people, maybe more, get blindsided by this 4-wheeler. And it also shows how the cops were woefully undermanned that they couldn't maintain the barricades once the parade units had passed. Again, this could have been much worse than it ended up being. Luck played too big a role in this event.
At least a dozen people, maybe more, get blindsided by this 4-wheeler. And it also shows how the cops were woefully undermanned that they couldn't maintain the barricades once the parade units had passed. Again, this could have been much worse than it ended up being. Luck played too big a role in this event.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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GOES 2 SHOW U WHAT KINDA OF BACK UP U GET WHEN U HAVE HOUSE MOUSES IN THE FIELD!
ALL THE ACADEMY STAFF WAS ON HAND AND THEY WERE SWEATING BULLETS!
GUESS BEER SOAKED HOCKEY FANS R NOT AS EASY TO SCARE LIKE THE ELDERLY RECRUITS AT THE ACADEMY.
AT LEAST THE BLUE LIGHTS CAMERAS KEPT THE CROWD IN CHECK.
I hope the copper that got run over is ok and takes enough time off to recover.
This is the kind of event that highlights the poor planning, lack of management skills and lack of training, and common sense that seems to be pervasive among the City of Chicago's top police brass, especially car 49(Georgas). Rumor has it that although other bosses realize his arrogance and "Everything will be done my way" attitude continues to place officers and civilians in harms way, and cost the city money, they don't confront him due to a belief that he is on the fast track to the Superintendent's position and they may end up working for him one day soon. It's a dam shame!
Wow and to think they were just trained last week on how to operate those ATV up at the Area. She must have missed the second on how to brake for brothers and sisters in blue!
the papv cop is a saint. if the injured cop was in better shape maybe she would have been able avoid any contact.
This post is a horrible & ineffective way to demonstrate how undermanned we are.
It just shows the Chicago Police messing up and we do not need another low blow in the area of public relations.
I blame the Man/Men in charge! This accident was a direct result of thier lack of proper planning! I'm pretty sure that none of the Gold Stars will be held responsible or accountable though! Sure the officer driving the PAPV could probably have benifitted from additional training, but the bottom line is those PAPV's should have never been put in that type of situation, and proper use of the Mounted Unit could have caused the incident to have been avoided.
I am confused, was that a cop driving the four-wheeler? If yes, he is an idiot for randomly running over people.
There's no city in the world that can in all honesty, have enough officers in place for nearly 2 Million people.....luckily they weren't a mob
"Incident teams" were told to get helmets etc. in the districts in preparation of being deployed downtown but we were never deployed. By that time it was already out of control downtown and we would have had a difficult time getting close anyway.
If there is anyone in need of dumping this is a good excuse to hang around someone's neck. As usual, not enough police and no boss with a good plan.
I was in awe of the exempt on a two-wheeled chariot telling me to "move these people back", refering to the 15,000 people in front of me. i laughed in his face. merit moron
jesus.why are those atvs even out there in the first place? hope thats the last time for that. luckily nobody was killed. i still cant believe those atvs were out there. unbelievable.
AT LEAST THE BLUE LIGHTS CAMERAS KEPT THE CROWD IN CHECK.
6/13/2010 12:12:00 AM
lmao
Kind of looks like tha apv driver lost control. Maybe someone from the crowd grabbed her arm or the accelerator.
Say what you want about "Drunk Tank Frank"......He was The Real Car 49
These Morons have NO CLUE......
I'll Drink to that.
the papv cop is a saint. if the injured cop was in better shape maybe she would have been able avoid any contact.
Your'e kidding right... asshole. better shape to avoid an ATV that you figure isn't going to run you over. Hope you're in good shape when a vehicle T-Bones you at an intersection jagoff!!
I BELIEVE KEATING WAS THE IDIOT OUT THERE, ON HIS LITTLE CHARIOT, YELLING OUT COMMANDS.BLAME HIM FOR LACK OF POLICE AND POOR PLANNING. FUCKING GOOF.GOOD THING MOST HAWKS FANS KNOW HOW TO ACT.
THANKS AGAIN CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS.
I/F
Thank god it was not the bulls!
Thw horses were very effective
okay daley, get ready, for the lawsuits for people ran over, by that 4wheeler.get ready to payyyy.and pay for having your no ass brasss in charge. this should be a training, video for what happens when you have people in charge who don't know what the fuck they are doing.
Nice work! Who the F qualified her to run that ATV? The happy fans didnt cause this. This incident is PURE negligence, and lack of skills and training....and national tv caught it...nice going!!
There is no way to control a crowd like that. Thank god the crowd was not unruly.
Wait until the Taste of Chicago, 3rd of July, to see more chaos with mayhem.
Thank God I'm off that day.
K.S. from patrol division(Dugan's office) is the one that got hit. Shes in Mercy with head,neck,shoulder, leg injuries.Check to see if the female on the atv is trained to drive it. She ran over her leg.Another good plan by the bosses. Hope she's ok and is not seriously injured.Great lawsuit though. Good luck KS
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=712_1276298588
OOps, not its viral.
But notice the members of the crowd coming forward to HELP the downed officer AND NOT to steal her weapon, wallet, etc., ala Densey Cole. Different type of crowd.
OMG! It's kinda like Traffic 101. Know how to operate your brakes. Nobody was injured, everyone walked, dust off and carry on.
What genioius boss made the call for the atv's to be in that crowd to begin with. The way the video looks, the crowd was being attacked. Thankfully the officer was not seriously hurt because of the poor planning/decisions. Was this decided before? That the atv's be in the crowd so forcefully ? Or was it yet another last minute bad decision. Regardless , thank you to the boss who embarassed CPD nationally-just what the department needed. They should create a video game of that scene. The bosses would have no problem busting out the name of someone from patrol if they did something wrong so give up the name of the boss/bosses who decided this. Was it a district level decision? I hope these bosses realize they f'd up big time but I am sure it is not thte first and definitely not the last.
I've watched these PAPV Police action at SSIP and BB. Both times, the are ripping down the parade route without care for ANYONE'S safety. They do not belong there, period. Great for the lake front, and tickets, but nothing else. As to the claims of a lack of planning, boys, if the estimates are correct, that's a lot of people to police. Finally, had that ATV hit me, I'd be off til Christmas. The copper hit laid there like she was dead with thousands descending on her. What was her injury.
If you've ever ridden a CPD papv, you know that they are uncontrollable pieces of s@!&. Many officers have had one vehicle crashes on them due to poor maintenance. Our vehicles are sub par. I've even seen the frames break on our bicycles, and we all know about the cars and suvs....
Daley and Weis have plans !!!
too bad the coppers don't know them.
This has been said for years
since 9/11
still, today, they have plans
what plans?
is the media (sheep) awake?
dollar aware, lacking talent, but quality reporting?
No!
i hope the copper is ok...it was nice to see some of the fans stopping to check on him...thank goodness my hubby was on furlough and didn't have to worry about working the parade...more than happy to watch on tv!!
at least a few citizens stopped to check on the officer and offer assistance---- most people still like the police although you hear the "chicago's finest" phrase less these days.... hopefully the officer is ok... when you look at the mass of people who were down there it is a miracle that nobody was seriously injured....
Anonymous said...
the papv cop is a saint. if the injured cop was in better shape maybe she would have been able avoid any contact.
6/13/2010 12:31:00 AM
OK, Jody.
Just dumb luck that someone wasn't more seriously hurt. Those ATVs should not be deployed where there is a possibility of large massed crowds. Its a lawsuit waiting to happen up at Wrigley or the Taste.
I saw a bunch of officers in civilian being "trained" on the ATV on the sidewalk in front of 19. Basically one guy telling the others this is the gas this is the brake good luck. The whole thing looked like a joke.
It looks like the P.O. on the ATV panicked and hit the gas instead of the brake. Without a doubt the cause is lack of training.
Kinda like putting P.O's that have worked the desk for 20+ years on hte streat.
the papv cop is a saint. if the injured cop was in better shape maybe she would have been able avoid any contact.
6/13/2010 12:31:00 AM
Watch the video douchebag! It wasn't the shape of the injured officer that hurt her. She was hit from behind and totally unaware. That "Saint" lost control of her vehicle and the video proof could end up costing the City millions. I bet Loevy and Loevy got hardons watching this.
One word here "UNDERMANNED"! Same thing on Clark St. in Wrigleyville when they won the cup. Someone is going to get killed over this manpower issue! Richard Francis was the first to get killed because the lack of manpower !
I am confused, was that a cop driving the four-wheeler? If yes, he is an idiot for randomly running over people.
Yes, you are confused. You should have just ended it there.
Having spent way too much time on a PAPV I can safely say there is no reason they should be deployed in crowded areas. They are a pain in the ass at Taste of Chicago, and pretty much wherever they use them when there's alot of foot traffic. The knuckleheads who ordered their deployment should be held accountable, but we know that won't happen.
GOES 2 SHOW U WHAT KINDA OF BACK UP U GET WHEN U HAVE HOUSE MOUSES IN THE FIELD!
ALL THE ACADEMY STAFF WAS ON HAND AND THEY WERE SWEATING BULLETS!
GUESS BEER SOAKED HOCKEY FANS R NOT AS EASY TO SCARE LIKE THE ELDERLY RECRUITS AT THE ACADEMY.
AT LEAST THE BLUE LIGHTS CAMERAS KEPT THE CROWD IN CHECK.
6/13/2010 12:12:00 AM
Your joking right? Everyone was sweating bullets, it was like 95% humidity out there. You must have been one of those "tact" guys who was standing around with 9 of your buddies watching a single crosswalk. You got a lot of balls talking about recruits and coppers posted alone to hold corners. I'll give you this, we all got lucky it was mainly taxpayers out there.
Said it before and I'll say it again. Car 49 (Stevie Georgas)gets put in charge on things like this and proceeds to screw them up, stops the motorcade in route and this move allows the crowd to swarm the buses containing the Hawks. Not only endangering them but the officers that are trying to hold the crowd back. Helo is "advising" to keep moving the motorcade but Stevie has to have it his way and the results are evident on the video; with the CPD losing control. I can't imagine what the scenario would've been like with a Bull's crowd but I believe that Stevie would've been crying in the corner sucking his thumb and trying to blame someone else. An arrogant self promoting ego-maniac with no sense of loyalty to anyone but himself and anyone (Orozco and Masters for now) that can potentially help his career. Wise up Jody and move this guy out to where he can't get anyone hurt. There has got to be a strictly admin position that he can fill where he can't do any damage we know he hass some juice but why are we being put in harms way because of his incompetence?
That's why they call it a crush. There is nothing to be done during these so called parades. You can't club them (anymore), you can't shoot them, you can't spray them and nobody listens. It is a mob mentality and you hope for the best.
Does anybody really think any amount of our present day police numbers could handle this crowd if it decided to get ugly? I see alot of complaints, but does anybody really have an answer as to what can be done? I can't think of a thing. It's a relatively calm crowd, no real lawbreakers, just let them run and try to grab the maniacs before they let loose.
Anonymous said...
This post is a horrible & ineffective way to demonstrate how undermanned we are.
It just shows the Chicago Police messing up and we do not need another low blow in the area of public relations.
6/13/2010 12:45:00 AM
STRONGLY DISAGREE!!!!!
Officers were overwhelmed by the "masses" EVERYWHERE.
We are damn lucky this was NOT an unruly crowd!
The only way to have even close to enough people would have been to have evryone there in uniform, dets, ocd, tru, msf etc but the other poster is right, if there really was close to 2,000000 no police dept would be big enough.
Anonymous said...
the papv cop is a saint. if the injured cop was in better shape maybe she would have been able avoid any contact.
6/13/2010 12:31:00 AM
How nice for you, anonymous commenter, that you are apparently boning the "saint" papv cop while you two lovebirds are off-duty, but fu*k you for trying to blame the victim officer, here. You are probably the same asswipe who blames the rape VICTIM for the crime because she dressed seductively.
YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!
If you watch the video, the papv hit several people BEFORE it struck the officer. It appears her line of vision was obscured by other pedestrians thus making it impossible for her to avoid being struck. How STUPID to try to lay blame on her for this accident!
I'm sure merit "Sgt" Keating had it all under control and it is indeed a two wheeled chariot the exalted one rides.
car #49 may have reached his top only time will tell, he is a little young to be sup. he's messed with enough people on the way up it will be an interesting fall to watch commander {Lt}. in 7th dist.
The video does have the perception (at least my perception) that the officer operating the ATV intentionally drove the ATV into the pedestrians.
What does P.A.P.V. stand for? I'm really a dim bulb!
I hope all are well, especially the officers!
You officers did a great job!! Thank the fans that they were not offensive and they were courteous and mannerly!
There's no city in the world that can in all honesty, have enough officers in place for nearly 2 Million people.....luckily they weren't a mob
6/13/2010 03:02:00 AM
Lucky it was not a Bulls crowd,or you know what would have happened..
I don't care if the PAPV driver had a car. You don't drive in a crowd or street with people on it. I see it was an older PAPV with one light. Those don't have the loud car type horns that newer ones have. People tend to stop and turn and change direction. Can't risk it.
Look on the brightside.
After the cop got knocked down, several civilians went to make sure he were ok and keep from others walking on him.
Stupid brass caused this and other injuries. They should go to the box and feel shame.
Too many Chiefs & not enough Indians!!!
Soooo...
What say ye, CPD exempts?
Are you fools done having your group hug & cry yet?
Has it sunk in yet?
Does the smartest and most highly educated exempt cadre in the history of CPD have the answers yet?
We are so impressed at how you clowns run around yowling stupid and impossible to implement orders which for common sense and safety's sake will be ignored by the tactically thinking blue shirt if not countermanded within five minutes by another exempt only to be counter-countermanded by yet another exempt two minutes later...
This shit should be a fucking EYE OPENER for EVERYBODY!
THERE IS NO COGENT OR SENSIBLE PLAN IN PLACE IN CHICAGO TO HANDLE A MASS EVENT!
The powers that be are crossing their fingers IN HOPE of dodging a bullet (no pun intended) for 3 and 4 July and bud killagain... Let alone a terrorist/mass casualty event.
"We have a plan, we just can't share it with ya" ...Muthafuckahs Puh-Leeeze stop shittin' the Bull!
If this "victory parade" is any indicator, First Responders are screwed in this city! No bio-hazard suits, no stock-pile of antidotes for agents and poisons etc, and no manpower.
Those gas masks? Just a feel good measure. The filters aren't suitable for NBC agents. Thus they've all but told us that we as First Responders are expendable to save a little coin for Daley Inc. to steal... Die bravely, selflessly and with great honor First Responders! Please? They're counting on your willing self sacrifice.
Nothing but noise in our opinion. Family and friends first, everyone else? YOYO...
They seem to have hung their hats on "mutual aid" from the burbs and the feds... When the shit hits the fan, we predict that possibly most egress from the city will be cut off ala New Orleans during Katrina.
Who could really blame them whether right or wrong?
Undermanned. Ill-equipped.
Intentionally starved for resources and equipment.
Managed by clueless, dangerously inexperienced peck-sniffs, ass-kissers, frauds and feebs. ("We can't do it that way because it isn't in our Federal playbook of "Things To Do When Shit Goes Wrong" Sorry, sucks to be you.")
Led by an amoral dwarf who should have been sold to gypsies as an infant. Well, perhaps not but he would've had at least a fuckin' well deserved IR# by now. Greasy little thief!
The good thing is that the Police went home in one piece for the most part. Well wishes to the injured P.O.
You exempts would do well to take a humble pill and disengage your heads from your asses... More P.O.'s weren't hurt IN SPITE OF YOU GOOFS, not because... But you humps are so smart that you figured that already. Right?
The old gray-haired, half crippled and needs replacement parts street copper can and will Police rings around the lot of you.
Shit... A few of the young'uns can too!
THE BEST PART OF THE ENTIRE HAWKS RALLY WAS WHEN TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FANS LOUDLY BOOED MAYOR RICHARD M DALEY AND GOVERNOR PATRICK QUINN!!!
DUMP DALEY!!!
Running over citizens and coppers with an ATV. Yeah,that makes a lot of sense. Some goofs posting that its ok? Try that shit with a squad car and see how long it takes to get sent to callback or fired..
"Incident teams" were told to get helmets etc. in the districts in preparation of being deployed downtown but we were never deployed. By that time it was already out of control downtown and we would have had a difficult time getting close anyway.
6/13/2010 03:06:00 AM
What exactly was out of control besides the PAPV? With your love of riot gear and order among the masses I'm sure Chavez or the Chinese could put you to work. It's easy to pose and "police" taxpayers. Why don't you try policing the thugs.
I hope the officer that got run over is ok. As for the officer who was driving the 4-wheeler, there is absolutely no excuse for running innocent pedestrians down. I hope that officer is punished appropriately and is reminded that he/she should count their blessings the crowd didn't turn on them.
To show how unmanned we are, why don't you just publish schedules from 1st & 3rd watch from all the districts on any given night.
Just another sign, another symptom, of a department in decline. If it ever goes up we will lose big and I'm embarrassed to admit that I couldn't care less.
Better video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNn3k1KfOrs
Steve "Fatboy" Georgas was in charge of this??
LOL!
During our march, we spied him hiding in a doorway on the north side of City Hall with a pen and note pad looking at coppers and scribbling furiously.
"You little treacherous bitch" we thought. We immediately called some "family members" from 018 to give them a heads up.
What Stevie was pulling is what some old Westsiders called "a pussy punk-ass play."
He hasn't learned anything we see.
Car 49?
Car 490, 3rd Watch would be more appropriate. Big laughs to be had if he has to come from the N/W side. That's at least a two hour hike during afternoon rush.
Are there any level-headed and competent Gold Stars left? Most likely not and no good Captain or Lieutenant worth the ink on their paper (they're very few) wants to have anything to do with the exempt circus and are doing everything they can to make it to retirement in one piece.
Oh joy, can't wait for the double bubble to arrive.
Air and water show and Bud Biliken parade on the same day.
Who's brilliant idea was this cluster f*@k?
Officer I hope you are ok! Take your time getting back!!!! Just take time getting well.
Box Chevy Phantom should include Cliff Notes for his verbose threads.
am huge supporter of CPD from CPD family. am female.
was on sidelines in uncrowded 12th district on day of parade close to it's inception- Washington/Sangammon.
was empathetic toward CPD Officers on duty standing in middle of street during extreme heat.
just as parade began to pass by, was shocked at how several female CPDs on ATVs suddenly sped carelessly forward very close to curb.
they ignored/charged head on into area occupied by pedestrians only 1-2 steps off curb.
if you happened to be standing there, good luck!
you could have been hit if not for happenstance of seeing ATVs speeding towards you and jumping step or two back onto curb/safely out of their way.
I recall at time this seemed maniacal/willful/harassing and completely out of character of typically careful, protective regard of CPD toward public.
numerous squads had already passed by. they hadn't veered their vehicles directly into path of Chicago citizens.
there were no barricades warning citizens not to take 1-2 steps off curb.
none.
there was no tape warning citizens not to step off curb.
and it's not like citizens were in middle of street or chasing after buses.
but, all of sudden, there were ATV's that came out of nowhere, commandeered at what I considered to be too high rate of speed, considering likelihood that numerous pedestrians were standing just off curb to get better view/photos of their beloved Blackhawk team.
check street cameras, if there are any tapes, at Washington/Sangammon which may back this up.
came as no surprise to me to see CNN video, SCC, which demonstrates similar lack of consideration for outcome of charging directly at pedestrians.
am sorry to document this, but it is truth.
and am very, very sorry to hear just such possible misguided demonstation of force caused one of our CPD Officers to be mowed down and seriously injured.
unless charging Officer's ATV failed, it appears to me to be same careless and willful intent I personally experienced, and saw numerous folks jump out of way of only moments earlier.
sad.
and certainly not representative of typically tactful, cautious, respectful actions normally demonstrated toward citizens of Chicago by Chicago Police Department Officers.
made me wonder, if not mechanical failure, what the heck was going on in that Officer's head as she charged?
don't you guys understand, in order to run an organization of any size you have to have hands on experience, There are only a handful of exempts that have that sense. Say what you want about Radke, Sullivan , Maurer, but they knew from experience how to control the crowds, all of them had years on the job, but not one of our exempts will take any advice from anyone, even our young and restless LTs. out there are cluelss, then factor in Sgts. who don't want to be there, you bring out people from admin spots and they have a hundred and one excuses on why they don't do the job, from hwy, I haven't been on the street in ages to I'm the deputys secretary, we are a disgrace as o whole department and I'm ashamed to even say that, but they should bring back our reitred bosses as consultants since the big payroll goofs ain't got a clue. Thanks for reading my banter.
More video of the parade and the mayhem-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpASQAwhPsA&has_verified=1
My God! I sincerely hope the officer will be ok. That didn't look good at all.
As for fights, etc., I don't care what city the event/parade is taking place in. There is always some jackoff to start shit.
Someone mentioned the Mounted Patrol in a post in this thread; they are a very deterrent. It's a shame Philly no longer has theirs. They have to borrow them from the PA State Police. The corrupt bastards on the Third Floor at the Roundhouse couldn't make sure the mounted patrol stayed for the safety of the citizens (and the officers themselves), but the scum bastards all get take home cars and every other perk you can imagine.
So you see, it isn't just Chicago that's corrupt. The Good 'Ole Boys are in every major city fucking the little person over.
Again, I hope the officer is ok.
Congrats once again on taking Lord Stanley. It was a great series - one I enjoyed immensely.
You all be safe out there.
Stop trying to blame this on stevie! He is soo much more advanced than any of us he couldbe one of those aliens on that show V. He is The Best of the Best, bar none. Just ask him.....or any of his sniveling sycophants
"Box Chevy Phantom should include Cliff Notes for his verbose threads.
6/13/2010 08:17:00 PM"
read them after a generous number of shots of Jack.
Car 49?
Car 490, 3rd Watch would be more appropriate. Big laughs to be had if he has to come from the N/W side. That's at least a two hour hike during afternoon rush.
Are there any level-headed and competent Gold Stars left? Most likely not and no good Captain or Lieutenant worth the ink on their paper (they're very few) wants to have anything to do with the exempt circus and are doing everything they can to make it to retirement in one piece.
I resent that inference....490 3rd Watch.
As an Old Timer once said:
"Horses, Officer, Horses".
It is well known that any major city police dept can solve murders and robberies. New York, L.A., Philadelphia. etc... they all do a pretty good job at it.
What made our police dept the envy of the country (and England) was how we could move a couple of hundred thousand people out of the Loop, 3rd of July, sports event, concert at Soldier Field with ease and no pain. Remember 9-11 how the Loop was cleared out.
I worked in Headquarters during the Hillard and Cline regimes, depts from all over the world would travel to Chicago to see how we could move large crowds, they wanted to know our secrets. Our secrets were people like Frank Radke, Fran McCarthy, Eddie Lanuti, and a few others who have long since retired. We don't have anyone with those skills anymore. Anyone who was mentored in those skills and could handle large crowds - like the Hawks parade - were dumped by Jody when he got here. We have no one. Say what you want about what an asshole Jimmy Carroll was, but he could have handled the Hawks rally.
Now, in just 2 short years, no other big city police depts bother to come to Chicago to see how we move people out of the Loop or from a major event. We're a joke to other big cities.
Your joking right? Everyone was sweating bullets, it was like 95% humidity out there. You must have been one of those "tact" guys who was standing around with 9 of your buddies watching a single crosswalk. You got a lot of balls talking about recruits and coppers posted alone to hold corners. I'll give you this, we all got lucky it was mainly taxpayers out there.
WOW, did he or she touch a nerve? No matter how you explain it, if you work inside with less than ten years or are injured, you probably were sweating bullets. No matter how you shake it, admit you are a housemouse and accept it. Nothing wrong with being an overpaid secretary, heck, you are the smart ones. Just do not act like you are the police at your famile parties.
It is well known that any major city police dept can solve murders and robberies. New York, L.A., Philadelphia. etc... they all do a pretty good job at it.
What made our police dept the envy of the country (and England) was how we could move a couple of hundred thousand people out of the Loop, 3rd of July, sports event, concert at Soldier Field with ease and no pain. Remember 9-11 how the Loop was cleared out.
I worked in Headquarters during the Hillard and Cline regimes, depts from all over the world would travel to Chicago to see how we could move large crowds, they wanted to know our secrets. Our secrets were people like Frank Radke, Fran McCarthy, Eddie Lanuti, and a few others who have long since retired. We don't have anyone with those skills anymore. Anyone who was mentored in those skills and could handle large crowds - like the Hawks parade - were dumped by Jody when he got here. We have no one. Say what you want about what an asshole Jimmy Carroll was, but he could have handled the Hawks rally.
Now, in just 2 short years, no other big city police depts bother to come to Chicago to see how we move people out of the Loop or from a major event. We're a joke to other big cities.
6/14/2010 10:34:00 AM
You couldn't be more wrong, you cool-aid drinking moron. We don't move people better than anyone else in the world because of speaches by bosses demanding bravery and honor or meetings of exempts.
No, here in Chicago people used to be afraid of the baton and the boot followed up by a quick thrust of the fist and whirlybird toss to the ground if you were foolish enough to disregard a command from a uniformed Chicago Police Officer. I give you the '68 and '06DNC or Bulls riots as examples of our handy work.
Unofortunately those days are gone forever due to castration by the likes of Daley, Weis and Duggan. I used to be proud to be a Chicago Police Officer, but now I don't tell anyone what I do to save face.
Good luck Chicago, you're going to need it when the last of the Heroes are gone.
The blame should fall directly on Steve Georgas... nice work, numskull!
Cliff notes are for cheaters! :^)
As one professor said, "Put your work in!"
Jack Daniels? OK, now we're really pissed... At least have a small batch, higher proof sippin' bourbon like Old Weller 107 if you're gonna point and laugh...
Bunch o' jokers but we salute ya anyways! *clink*
Thank God that crowd wasn't a hostile one! What a hit that poor copper took from the one on the ATV!
'Now, in just 2 short years, no other big city police depts bother to come to Chicago to see how we move people out of the Loop or from a major event. We're a joke to other big cities."
Brother, you hit the nail on the head. Our once-proud Dept. has sunk lower than anyone could have predicted. But you can't put all the blame for this on Weis. Daley likes dummies under him who are easily manipulated; Weis was a good choice to fill that void. Combine that with placing Masters, the ultimate brown noser for Shortshanks, as the second in command, and you have a recipe for disaster, such as what we're all living with now under the current regime. It will take an entire decade to get this Dept. squared away again. First step to move in that direction is with the election of a new Mayor next year.
"Daley and Weis have plans !!!
too bad the coppers don't know them.
This has been said for years
since 9/11
still, today, they have plans"
All the plans in the world are useless without the practice and training necessary to implement them.
"It looks like the P.O. on the ATV panicked and hit the gas instead of the brake. Without a doubt the cause is lack of training."
Ooh. There's that "T-word" again. You mean "Streaming Video" isn't enough?
"Richard Francis was the first to get killed because the lack of manpower !"
But we've got THE BEST training! You'll see Streaming Video over the next couple of weeks covering "Diversity-Transgender" and "Transgender Traffic Stop", but NOT ONE WORD on actual officer survival topics such as weapon retention or even crowd control (except maybe that dumb echelon left/right-"Assemble" video).
Anyone else see a trend here? We've got YOYO Training at CPD: You're On Your Own.
God Bless, folks. Watch your & your partner's backs...no one else will!
"What does P.A.P.V. stand for?"
Don't laugh; "Police All-Purpose Vehicle."
They took standard ATV's, replaced the tires, added a horn, lights & turn signals and had them certified as "automobiles"; hence the car plates and not motorcyle plates-no special license required to operate them! The modifications essentially doubled the cost of the things, as well as making them fairly unstable and likely to tip over backwards.
They require a lot of practice to master (Master? Masters? Is the CR Number still going??)
If I remember correctly the accelerator on this particular PAPV is operated by the right hand thumb. One quick thrust of the thumb and that PAPV will shoot from right under you. That officer panicked, gave too much acceleration,forgot to release the accelerator, and apply the hand and foot brakes. The officer was probably not trained or had enough training to be operating that vehicle, less in that large crowd.
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