What's This?
- The Department and the FOP have come to terms regarding a Department Procured Outside Employment Program that is scheduled to begin in July 2010. The program will be open to all members below the rank of sergeant regardless of unit or title code.
Those members that are interested in participating in this program must complete an e-Learning module that will be available on the e-Learning site in the near future. Members will sign up for a three month period. Members will be notified of opportunities that are available during this time period via CPD email. Members must possess a valid CPD email address in order to participate in this program.
Members may also receive emergency communications regarding assignment by phone. It is imperative that members ensure that the phone number listed with the Department is the phone number that they wish to be contacted at. Members may change their contact number to a cell phone number by completing Personnel Change Notice (CPD 11.611). Simply check the Change Phone Number box and supply the old and new phone numbers in the body of the form.
Is this similar to that out-of-state program we always hear about where if someone needs a "police presence" at a business, event or other function, they can hire off-duty cops through the FOP? Boston or Philly or one of those east coast cities? It's been proposed here before, but never enacted because of one reason or another. Someone want to explain?
Labels: FOP, info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
99 Comments:
Hmmmm...
Soooo...
What's the catch? The Devil (shortshanks) is always in the details.
We detect the piquant and exquisite odor of fuckery.
Why is this being dropped/announced now? Who in Daley Inc. stands to benefit? Why do they suddenly want to throw the Police a bone?
Not So Fast Muthafuckahs... Get your hands up where we can see 'em!
Hw much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$???????
This tranprency in the CPD.
And of course, the city will make a cut of this for "administering" the program.
Now the Department will regulate your "Side Jobs"?
What kind of fucking bullshit is this? Let me guess, youre going to need X Contact Cards, X Movers X Parkers, Score at least X on Preformance Evals...
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Off Duty, You'll be working "Taste" or "Blues/Jazz...fest" type stuff. "Hurry, we need 35 Officers for Bud Billikin, to the Bat Phone, Boy Hamilton..."
Hmmmm.....I say "B.O.H.I.C.A."!!!
They would have brought this up at contract time if it were any good.
Those members that are interested in participating in this program must complete an e-Learning module that will be available on the e-Learning site in the near future
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It is already the middle of June. When will this site be available?
Nothing like waiting till the last minute. Be careful signing up for something that is unknown.
If I'm not mistaken this is part of our proposed cortract. I'm glad they are doing it but I would like to see what qualifications the businesses must meet to request a PO and I would also like to know if we will be able to comunicate on the zone we are working in if we need assistance.
It means they expect you to SCAB on your own jobs and delay hiring and promotions..........One reason the CFD went on strike in 1980.......
Only the seriously connected will receive prior notification so that any attractive slots will be gone before those not seriously connected get a chance.
question: If you resigned are you still entitled to a retro check? If so, how do you go about getting it?
Many east cost departments already do this. The cops make some extra easy money and provide the extra police precense especially now being so short in man power and of course the city gets a nice cut from it $$$$$$$$
it ll be 35 an hour for street festivals and details like that ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Dugan,Dugan, Dugan! Dan has finally seen what the fu.k happens when you don't have the manpower needed for special events. With the summer in full swing, Taste and Bub Biliken and so forth they want the added manpower if they need it. By no means are they throwing you a bone! Fuc.k the F.O.P. They shouldn't have agreed to this but should have told the city to hire more policeman.
I wonder whose company will be administering this and getting a cut of the officer's salaries for doing so, and how much said company has donated to various political campaigns.
Let me guess all of the house mice will get first crack at the cheese and the rats on the street will have to fight for the crumbs.
Another OT gig that anyone with less than 15yrs won't be able to get a day.
This department is awesome!
Last thing I want to do on my day off is put this damn uniform on. You can keep it....
I had recently talked to someone and was informed that this was in the works. I was told that they will create a senority list and once you are called you go to the bottom and not called again until your name rises to the top. They did not say how much the pay would be, however, they did say that we would be covered by the contract in regards to IOD and injury. Should be interesting to see if this is true.!
Boy, that FOP can't sell us out enough
This is about the city wanting to take a cut of PO's working a side job.
They've been doing this in the south for years. The businesses go through the dept to get security and PO's use City vehicle. Company pays PO and city for use of vehicle.
I heard on the radio a while back that NYC has a program that if a security guard is required to carry a weapon, then they have to be hired through NYPD. The pay is also counted towards their pensions. That is why they say some of the police have higher pension.
Now we know that CPD would never do anything to help raise your pensions unless they were getting a bigger cut than you get.
I don't know how relveant this is, but it's just a though.
Cleveland allows Officers to work in Uniform @ Liquor Establishments, as do many other agencies. Remember if you want to know where CPD is currently in regards to other Departments, look back 20 years. It's 2010 & we're still handwriting reports.
beware! the city doesnt do a thing that isnt in its best/shorty s interest. also...are you completely covered? i ll pass. the city putting out a little dough to get the cashstrapped guys to nibble.
OT So I'm putting on my city stickers today and they don't stick very well. Anyone else having this problem? I wonder whose cousin has the glue contract?
Sounds like lil nephew VANECKO has gone into the security business and needs some cheap help to service all those city contracts that are on the way.
no work for the retired police officers , come on FOP
Only catch is no indemnification.
Of course I trust the department to regulate my side jobs. Hey wait a minute, this kook-ade tastes like a$$!!
They will only out-price us. In LA they have this program. They charge a business about $ 70 an hour.
Some will pay but most will hire rent a cops. A failed policy in LA makes perfect sense to the FOP and CPD management.
The Dept needs bodies Fast to work these big festivals/details. They have no idea how they are going to deal with 3rd/4th and are afraid we could lose 2/3 of the city if it gets ugly. Unless you are desperate for cash I'd recommend you avoid these, you could get stuck in mayhem for an ungrateful city/department. Let it burn.
The city is trying to create the illusion of proper staffing/manpower. The fact it has come to this will someday lead to criminal indictments of those that have squandered,misappropriated the budgeted funds. Unfortunately it will take a week or two of major violent rioting to get peoples attention. Have an emergency plan for your family and have sufficient firepower to defend your own homes, as it stands now the Dept can't respond.
screw up and whack someone and see how this job will react to your other then active police role ....OUCH.
Have to love that Lake Front Iniatiave OT.. I want to sit at the beach all day and not do a thing..Just sitting back and watching people go by and eating..I want that time and a half..
This is how the city will try to cover up the horrific shortage that we are experiencing in the C.P.D.. SAD!!!!!! IT SADDENS ME TO SEE HOW VERY UNDERMANNED WE ARE ALL OVER THE CITY. Northside, southside, westside......same shortage. OFFICERS, try to stay SAFE and help one another---WE are all we have!!!!!
WE ALL REALIZE THAT THE CITY WANTS A CUT!!! MOST OF US HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME FIND SIDE JOBS ON A REGULAR BASIS. THE SENIORITY FOR CTA HAS SKYROCKETED, CHA IS GONE AND THE LAKE INIAITIVE IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET
question: If you resigned are you still entitled to a retro check? If so, how do you go about getting it?
6/14/2010 07:43:00 AM
yes, through the department of finance
AHHH HAH!
Gotchoazz!
Summer festival season?
Uniformed Police to work this o/t initiative?
"Private companies" need a uniformed Police presence?
OK, we'll bite...
Which Daley Inc. operatives/alderfools/retired exempts are going to be running private/contract security for all the summer festivities such as Taste of Chicago, Bud Killagain, and the entire alphabet soup of neighborhood festivals and gatherings?
THIS SHIT IS LOW DOWN!
Trying to get coppers to scab on their own job!
If they have enough money to award contracts to the clouted few, then there's enough money to hire more Police!
Do not bite on this bullshit! make these assholes pay full muthafuckin' freight plus tax for stealing from us and putting us and the public at risk by not hiring!
Pt. II
Beware! This is the foot in the door to privatizing Public Safety.
If they do away with the entrance exam, what's stopping them from finding a way to invoke "home rule" and saying there is no real need for CPD officers to be state certified?
The Crime King has no problem circumventing law, contractual agreements, procedure and protocol to suit his whim. Note the end-around they tried to pull trying to implement a two tier pension.
Anonymous said...
The Dept needs bodies Fast to work these big festivals/details. They have no idea how they are going to deal with 3rd/4th and are afraid we could lose 2/3 of the city if it gets ugly. Unless you are desperate for cash I'd recommend you avoid these, you could get stuck in mayhem for an ungrateful city/department. Let it burn.
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AGREED. Since this large fest could only be ONE day of overtime at the most, IGNORE WORKING IT.
Show the city how truly strapped this department is and let shortshanks eat the shit off his own plate.
It's only one day of overtime in a year, we can all afford to teach this city a lesson.
Anonymous said...
no work for the retired police officers , come on FOP
6/14/2010 11:52:00 AM
Why does the FOP need to find retired guys a gig?
You're gone now get your own fucking part timer let the FOP worry working conditions and $$$ for the guys still on thr job.
Anonymous said...
Another OT gig that anyone with less than 15yrs won't be able to get a day.
This department is awesome!
6/14/2010 09:25:00 AM
Hey you little piss ant FNG, every copper before you had to wait their turn to get any "perks" due to seniority, what makes you special...nothing. Now STFU and wait your turn.
To 9:25am Buzz off Junior, your time will come. Seniority is the only fair way for stuff like this.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT So I'm putting on my city stickers today and they don't stick very well. Anyone else having this problem? I wonder whose cousin has the glue contract?
6/14/2010 11:15:00 AM
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I never received my renewal notices AGAIN, second time in 3 years. Off to the currency exchange and fill out a blank form again.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Another OT gig that anyone with less than 15yrs won't be able to get a day.
This department is awesome!
6/14/2010 09:25:00 AM
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Boo Hoo! Get some time on the job kid then you can get it. Until then do what the rest of us did and work a security side gig.
Whatever happened to "Cops Off Duty"?
:D
The city wants more control over us. They want to make it easier to fire you from this job beacuse of a jam up at the side job.
You can have it! I will enjoy my 7A furlough and not think twice about this city. Its moron cop's that suck up the overtime thus letting the city get away with not properly staffing the CPD. I would love to see all OT cut, and hire the proper amount of PO's to do this job. Plus I dont want to hear the crying about tuition, car payments, mortgage, or the ex-wife that get's half your check (keep your cheating a$$ at home) its called manage your money!!!
"Another OT gig that anyone with less than 15yrs won't be able to get a day."
THEN THE DAY WILL ARRIVE WHEN YOU HAVE 3BARS ON YOUR SLEEVE & YOU'LL BE GODDAMNED IF SOMEBODY W/LESS TIME THEN YOU IS AFFORDED OT EMPLOYMENT. IT'S CALLED SENIORITY, IT'S FAIR & EQUITABLE, BUT A CRYBABY ME,ME,ME PUNK M'FER COLLEGE EDUCATED ASSCLOWN THE LIKE YOU CAN'T SEEM TO COMPREHEND THAT??
OT- shots fired at police on 69 Vernon. Shots returned, police fine, offender dead.
Anonymous said...
OT So I'm putting on my city stickers today and they don't stick very well. Anyone else having this problem? I wonder whose cousin has the glue contract?
6/14/2010 11:15:00 AM
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Yep, both of my stickers wouldn't hold onto the window, not even close.
@ 6/14/2010 11:15:00 AM
We have been hearing that a lot over at Mouthbreather Central...I mean the Department of Revenue.
Part of it stems from past year complaints about how difficult it is to get the old stickers off the windshields.
And the rest probably is because they used cheap sh.it glue.
Anonymous said...
Another OT gig that anyone with less than 15yrs won't be able to get a day.
This department is awesome!
6/14/2010 09:25:00 AM
Anonymous said...
I had recently talked to someone and was informed that this was in the works. I was told that they will create a senority list and once you are called you go to the bottom and not called again until your name rises to the top. They did not say how much the pay would be, however, they did say that we would be covered by the contract in regards to IOD and injury. Should be interesting to see if this is true.!
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Something needs to be done about the scheduling. 15+yrs to get anything? Then you got some/same people getting tons of days (4-5 days a period). I think the revolving list would be a good idea to spread the wealth. If you have that much time then you should still end up with more than 2 days, while giving others the chance to get a little. 2 days of ot (or 24 hrs since they are not all time/half) is good enough for anybody.
I know... I know....get some time on the job kid
ot..
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/murder-free-maywood-marks-an-awkward-anniversary.html
Curry, a 25-year veteran of the police force who said he spends 60 percent of his time on the street, gave credit to a simple measure he emphasized since becoming chief two days before the last homicide in Maywood: Police officers target loiterers.
"Loitering is usually the root of hanging out discussing the crime they're about to commit," Curry said. "It also makes the people who are loitering potential victims."
So typically, officers will start asking questions of groups or an individual standing around, Curry said. If the answers are ambiguous, the officers will encourage the individuals to keep moving. If the officers return later to find the area still occupied by loiterers, the police start asking for identification and may check for outstanding warrants, search the individuals or arrest them for loitering, Curry said.
It doesn't matter whether FOP agrees to it or not. Greedy Ass coppers will knock each other over to get to it. If you had any balls whatsoever every last copper would tell the department to go scratch and not work any of these BS special employment details either.
F the beach antiviolence initiative or whatever the hell they call it. Safe Summer? screw that too. Housing......KMA. If you bunch of one way MF'ers just refused to work any of it for a single F'in period this city would have to hire more coppers. But no, they can always count on your self interest and greed to override and idea of solidarity or any attempt to leverage the city into hiring more officers.
Oooh I can hear the rationalizations and excuses already. I need to work it to make my mortgage...I need to work it to pay tuition. Sorry, that don't cut it with me. I know my dad wasn't the only guy who taught his kids to live within their means. You know how he paid our tuition? He didn't have a boat, or snowmobiles and he didn't drive a new car every two or three years. He didn't go to vegas and I never saw him gamble away a single dollar.
Yeah, he worked side jobs galore BUT he NEVER spent more money than he made in his regular take home pay. Every dollar he made on the side was extra and not to be counted on...it could end any day.
To do any differently is just plain stupid and inexcusable. It also plays right into shortshank's hands as you now must whore yourself out to avoid foreclosure, repossession etc...So if you want to work this nonsense to bail out dugan and the dept for their failure to hire and promote all I can say is -
Say hi to your stuttering midget pimp for me and tell him to KMA.
This is a cry for help. This is admitting that the CPD is severely undermanned. This is a tacit admission by the Gold Stars that they have no fucking idea how to manage events that will surely get ugly.
Unless you're in desperate need for that extra cash, don't participate in this latest debacle. Let the department start hiring back people at time-and-a-half and make that income pensionable. Fuck the private companies that will surely be kicking-back envelopes to Daley, the Stooges and the connected, clouted few.
The City and Department are grasping at straws. It's high-time we sit back and let them die a slow, miserable death.
"Boy, that FOP can't sell us out enough"
"no work for the retired police officers , come on FOP"
Put your money where your mouth is...
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13350456&postID=6927412503248745647
or does this more adequately describe you?
'But it's so much easier to hide behind the keyboard and bitch!
Why would I actually want to get involved?
I'm too lazy to vote in the general elections, let alone get off my ass and run for office myself!
Hell, I won't even go to an FOP meeting!
Now what is it I was bitching about?'
Hey FOP how about elaborating on this program.... Give us details. What kind of work and how much we will get paid???
Anonymous said...
question: If you resigned are you still entitled to a retro check? If so, how do you go about getting it?
6/14/2010 07:43:00 AM
Yes, you are entitled to a retro check if you resigned or were fired. You will only be compensated for the time that you worked obviously.
Call the Finance Deaprtment and speak with Frank Wilson.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It means they expect you to SCAB on your own jobs and delay hiring and promotions..........One reason the CFD went on strike in 1980.......
6/14/2010 07:23:00 AM
It has to be time and a half by contract. It is still scabbing and the union should not have agreed to this.
Hire more coppers before someone else gets killed or maimed again.
Anonymous said...
The Dept needs bodies Fast to work these big festivals/details. They have no idea how they are going to deal with 3rd/4th and are afraid we could lose 2/3 of the city if it gets ugly. Unless you are desperate for cash I'd recommend you avoid these, you could get stuck in mayhem for an ungrateful city/department. Let it burn.
6/14/2010 03:13:00 PM
100% AGREED UPON!
I am not going to get killed when Chicago erupts for a measly few bucks. NOT HAPPENING!
Three summers ago Chicago came very close to a major riot on the Westside.
I truly believe that it will occur this summer.
Don't compromise your health, well being and future and that of your family's for a few bucks.
Let nature take its course and let Daley lose in February.
Don't help the Machine out, let it happen.
Seniority is earned and when you get it you will understand that. Don't continue being part of the "ME" Generation.
We all were there just like you and we had to earn ours, just like you will hopefully too.
Anyting less than time in a half and your a scab.....
Something needs to be done about the scheduling. 15+yrs to get anything? Then you got some/same people getting tons of days (4-5 days a period). I think the revolving list would be a good idea to spread the wealth. If you have that much time then you should still end up with more than 2 days, while giving others the chance to get a little. 2 days of ot (or 24 hrs since they are not all time/half) is good enough for anybody.
I know... I know....get some time on the job kid
6/14/2010 10:37:00 PM
No, you are right, we got families too. On top of that people with 15+ years on make more than us. There needs to be a line drawn to make this fair. Despite all the OT initiatives I have given up, even with 5 years on, I get nothing. 2 or 3 years on I didn't expect anything, but now, I kind of did. Guess I was wrong...
Vanecko's not in the security biz and that's the whole point of this. At least two security firms with prestigious world-wide reputations are scouting Chitown and may soon open for biz, but NOT within the city limits of Chicago. Save your legal technicality blogs for someone who cares. I'm upgrading my resume.
Stop whining about not getting any special employment because you don't have enough time on the job. I don't either at this point but everything goes by seniority so don't try to change it because it doesn't work for you at this time. You'll be the same person who will bitch in 15 years that younger officers are getting special but you're a veteran and you should be getting more. Fair is fair and when we get the senority, then it will be our turn.
Anonymous said...
no work for the retired police officers , come on FOP
6/14/2010 11:52:00 AM
Why does the FOP need to find retired guys a gig?
You're gone now get your own fucking part timer let the FOP worry working conditions and $$$ for the guys still on thr job.
6/14/2010 06:48:00 PM
Once an officer retires he or she is no longer part of the bargaining unit, they are not covered under the contract. You would need to join the retired guys union for that.
I thought the main idea of retirement is to not go to work any more. And to get a pension check for not going to work. There is always the local big box store and how are you at saying "Would you like fries with that?"
I for one plan on being way to busy to take any work and besides, police or security work is the last thing in the world I would do once I leave the employ of the city.
No, you are right, we got families too. On top of that people with 15+ years on make more than us. There needs to be a line drawn to make this fair. Despite all the OT initiatives I have given up, even with 5 years on, I get nothing. 2 or 3 years on I didn't expect anything, but now, I kind of did. Guess I was wrong...
6/15/2010 03:14:00 AM
Listen KID: when we, the now 15, 17, 19 year vets had your time on the job, 2,4, 5 years, the rest of the DEPT HAD 25+ YEARS! At that time, we were one of the oldest Departments in the country!
So, in summary, sit down, shut up, and wait it out... just like everone else that went before you did!
If they do away with the entrance exam, what's stopping them from finding a way to invoke "home rule" and saying there is no real need for CPD officers to be state certified?
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Home rule allows a home rule entity to add adidtional requirements on top of state law, but cannot reduce them.
OT So I'm putting on my city stickers today and they don't stick very well. Anyone else having this problem? I wonder whose cousin has the glue contract?
DITTO! same issue, no stick
CPD personnel/human resources privatized the background investigation for new police hires some time ago. former sup,TH, security firm handles the investigations. No more test for the job, just an application.
You are getting a cushy way to make some easy money and you complain.
Take what you can get.
hello puerto rican fest from wed thru sunday--- pulling bodies out of the districts to work this event and leaving the districts with a skeleton crew--- if nothing happens things will be ok but if something steps off, look out... it's very unsettling feeling like a gambling chip on a casino table, because our safety is being gambled right now.....
Another OT gig that anyone with less than 15yrs won't be able to get a day. This department is awesome!
And your point is?
I never received my renewal notices AGAIN, second time in 3 years. Off to the currency exchange and fill out a blank form again.
Go on line, fill out the form and have them in your hand within a week and a half. Ain't rocket science.
Yep, both of my stickers wouldn't hold onto the window, not even close.
That's because you didn't pay the glue tax. LOL!
To all the FNG'S out there. The issue of special employment being based on seniority is a contract issue. Since the contract has passed this time around, the issue is dead until the next contract talks. And since we now have a 5 year contract that won't expire till June 2012 , that means that you have to sit and watch while I get all the O.T. you don't qualify for for the next 2 years!
And since I had to bide my time until I put enough time in to get special, you DO NOT have my sympathy.
I agree with a lot of posters. Too ambiguous right now to be beneficial.
- will you be indemnified if a civil suit results from this employment?
- will it go toward pension?
- is the wage equal to my time and a half rate?
- who will supervise and how do they get assigned/picked?
- will I have a radio, car, taser, etc?
You see? Too many questions. Enjoy your time off and wait for a time and a half gig when they have to start canceling days off. That's a lot better.
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Anonymous said...
OT So I'm putting on my city stickers today and they don't stick very well. Anyone else having this problem? I wonder whose cousin has the glue contract?
6/14/2010 11:15:00 AM
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Yep, both of my stickers wouldn't hold onto the window, not even close.
6/14/2010 10:02:00 PM
Call the city clerk miguel delvalle 312-744-8590 and complain!!another clouted goof!
"I have given up, even with 5 years on, I get nothing. 2 or 3 years on I didn't expect anything, but now, I kind of did. Guess I was wrong..."
10 years on and then you'll have a chance at OT. Seniority, its the only fair way. We ALL had to wait. Its your turn now
No, you are right, we got families too. On top of that people with 15+ years on make more than us. There needs to be a line drawn to make this fair. Despite all the OT initiatives I have given up, even with 5 years on, I get nothing. 2 or 3 years on I didn't expect anything, but now, I kind of did. Guess I was wrong...
6/15/2010 03:14:00 AM
sure kid take mine............................
NOT
IM COMING UP ON TEN YEARS AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT IN THREE THREE YEARS. I USED TO TWOW DAYS A EPRIOD WORKING SECOND WATCH. I HAVE PUT IN FOR EVERY TIME SLOT EXCEPT MIDNIGHTS AND HAVE NOT RECEIEVED NOT ONE DAY. THESE HIREBACK IDEAS ARE GREAT BUT THEY NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT SPREADING THE WEALTH.
You people with 2 years on the job need to quit whining about the OT opportunities. People that are getting the OT earned their way up the seniority ladder to get to this point. When we had 2 years on the job we didn't get shit either. Stop bitching punks. Waaaa Waaaa Waaaa
I wouldn't work the taste for double time. I will be at home with family having a beer. These big events are nothing but trouble.
Has this even been posted on e-learning or clear ... whatever it is? Any details provided?
With all the whining by the pups, I just want to comment that when Im in the districts for a process, it's always the young guys that say, "I can't stay, I GOTTA GO"
Guaranteed OT. Same with court. It's my day off, I don't want to be here. Why isn't XXX here?
And they could get time and a half.
TO 11:52 posting: you are banging the retirees, you little punk bitch, you are probably a 3 year wonder who is one of the expectation generation brats who want everything now, grow some whiskers and live this job before you talk SHIT, your parents obviously didn't raise you right, the fretirees earned thier keep and its our turn to make sure they survive and enjoy retirement, it will creep up on you before you know it, you also are most likely a lazy piece of SHIT.
ANGRY 9161 said...
IM COMING UP ON TEN YEARS AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT IN THREE THREE YEARS. I USED TO TWOW DAYS A EPRIOD WORKING SECOND WATCH. I HAVE PUT IN FOR EVERY TIME SLOT EXCEPT MIDNIGHTS AND HAVE NOT RECEIEVED NOT ONE DAY. THESE HIREBACK IDEAS ARE GREAT BUT THEY NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT SPREADING THE WEALTH.
6/15/2010 02:47:00 PM
Coming up on ten years, wow. You mean to say that you were thoughtless enough to come on this job without clout or seniority! Damn! I'd be pissed off too! No seniority, how damn unfair is that? File a grievance or a lawsuit!
I too was dumb enough to get hired with no seniority. Poor me. In the early years I caught all those lousy details and had to work shit watches in shit districts and never even got a summer furlough! Can you imagine that? No summer furlough! Unfair!
And there were NO special employment programs at time and a half. The only special employment was CTA at straight time and the movie unit, if you knew someone.
And there was no recourse, no beefing, no crying, no grievance if I didn't get CTA special employment or no movies to work!
And what's more, there was no blog to bitch on and no fucking internet! Now doesn't that just suck?
When I was foolish enough to complain some gruff old timer told me to shut the fuck up and get some seniority. Can you believe that old guy with 30 years on talking to me with a year and a half on like that? Hah!
Well, he was right, I shut the fuck up, took outside side jobs and did whatever I could until the day came, like yesterday, when I got all the time and a half special employment I need, which is only two days a month.
And I didn't get that seniority by crying or through a lawsuit (which is how some got it) but rather I got seniority the same was I got this grey hair:
I fucking earned it!
Now shut the fuck up and get some seniority!
You young fucks have it better than anyone with over 20 years on ever had it and still you bitch and whine. I worked 6 days on and two off for years and rotated shifts every 28 days because that is the way it was. Now you only have to work 4 damn days before 2 days off.
It's a day at a time, put in your time, keep your mouth shut and just work and you will be a better person for doing it and some day you can laugh at whatever nonsense complaint some young guy is moaning about in the year 2030.
You people with 2 years on the job need to quit whining about the OT opportunities. People that are getting the OT earned their way up the seniority ladder to get to this point. When we had 2 years on the job we didn't get shit either. Stop bitching punks. Waaaa Waaaa Waaaa
6/15/2010 04:15:00 PM
Its not just the 2 year wonders not getting any OT. Its also people with 13-15 years not getting shit! I guess that's not as much time as you, dinosaur, but I think that should be enough time to get something. I guess I'll just keep crying while you keep working to pay off your 2nd and 3rd mortgage.
Dear mr. Crybaby seniority, instead of complaining, what you need to do is make some felony arrests,and earn court time, that is what low seniority men and women officers do!welcome to the Chicago police department,you don't need a masters degree to figure that out.oh, and stop and have glass of your favorite beverage with your partner on the way home.maybe I will see you at o'hare on my retirement to Hawaii in 2015!
08:47:00 AM
We ARE talking about the Crime King?
The letter and rule of law is just a minor inconvenience to him.
Since when has adherence to state law been a concern of his?
He has Springfield in his pocket... He can have the law changed to suit his purposes.
He has an ENTIRE FLOOR at City Hall full of nothing but lawyers and whiz-kids figuring out any and every end-around of local and state law, labor agreements etc.
is this the type of e-learning you will have to go to a class on your own time without pay. bullshit i say
A lot of complaints about not having seniority to get o/t...
Seniority is really the only "perk" worthwhile on this job.
As one previous poster related, be glad this isn't 15 to 20 years ago when you couldn't even sniff o/t!
People with 20+ years closing out 1st & 3rd watch special employment on a regular basis and those guys were the "kids"!
Too many young officers who want it right now. Too many young officers with less than 5 years saying they're tired of chasing the radio. Everybody is tired of chasing the radio dammit!
Put your time in! You too will have a star and some bars on your sleeve if you endure like everyone before you did.
Anonymous said...
No, you are right, we got families too. On top of that people with 15+ years on make more than us. There needs to be a line drawn to make this fair. Despite all the OT initiatives I have given up, even with 5 years on, I get nothing. 2 or 3 years on I didn't expect anything, but now, I kind of did. Guess I was wrong...
6/15/2010 03:14:00 AM
Yeah, I have 24 years on and those damn old timers with 25 years make more than me! And they are acing me out on getting days at O'Hare! Damn injustice of it all!
I thought that by time I had 25 years on that I would have gone ahead at double speed at least, you know, two for one, and get things as if I had 35 years on, damn it, enough is enough.
And if I take that well deserved promotion to sergeant that surely must be in my future then they will expect me to go to the bottom of the sergeant's seniority list! hell with that! I will sue!
Do they actually think that some sergeant with two years on as a sergeant and dark brown hair will have seniority on ME? And me with 24 years on, (175 years in dog years) and gray hair will be BEHIND that young sergeant? Oh no, this seniority shit has to stop or else I will hold my breath till I turn purple!
Why is all that seniority wasted on those old guys? It just isn't fair! I have a family and ex-wife to support and also a gambling habit and mistress and a secret love child and the IRS is after me.
It just isn't right that I can't make it to O'Hare on a bid, not right at all.
If you want to earn extra money and can't get the lucrative special employment days then you do it the old fashioned way: you work 1st or 3rd watch, make arrests and beat them in court.
I know numerous officers with over 25 years on who beats the city to death on making arrests, overtime and court.
You didn't think the city was crime and DUI driver-free, did you? There is a gushing river of crime and impaired drivers out there just waiting to be snatched up.
Learn how to do felony cases and learn the ins and outs of 26th St at California Ave.
You can easily make an extra two grand a month by arresting people and going to court. Make it work to your advantage and you will see how easy it is. Then, when you get enough time on the job you can get the easier special employment assignments.
That is what this job is about, you know, arresting people and going to court. God knows there is no shortage of people doing bad things begging to be caught.
IF ALL U GUYS WANT O.T. THATS EASY LOCK SOMEONE UP NEAR THE END OF THE WATCH!
SIT AND TYPE AND INVENTORY.
FUNNY THING IS ALOT OF U THINK 30 SOMETHING AN HOUR IS GREAT.
I FIND MANY OF U WILL TAKE 20 AND HOUR IF ITS CASH. I HAVE BIZNESS BEGGING ME FOR SECURITY IN EMPTY WAREHOUSE AND JUST WANT U 2 STAY AWAKE.
JEWELERS WANT A DRIVER 50 AN HOUR!
ALL THOSE MASTER DEGREES AND THE BEST U CAN COME UP WITH IS BEING AND USHER....THINK OUT DA BOX
about time! travel to any major city in this country and you will find all many citys that are only able to hire off duty officers exp..boston, milwaukee...we have the second largest city and i have to beg to work in the ghetto once a month...its a fuckin joke.. we have cubs, soxs, bears, all united center events all events in downtown and they give the contracts to connected security firms, i just dont understand...any other place the police do it for the overtime, and the city would get a percentage from the sports organiziation as well
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