TASER Attrition?
We know the Department has been reducing manpower via not hiring.
We're pretty sure the Department is eliminating captains by not promoting.
Now we hear the Department is in the process of stiffing another vendor, namely TASER International. And as a result, TASERs going down for repairs are not being repaired - or replaced - at the district level. From the comments:
We're pretty sure the Department is eliminating captains by not promoting.
Now we hear the Department is in the process of stiffing another vendor, namely TASER International. And as a result, TASERs going down for repairs are not being repaired - or replaced - at the district level. From the comments:
- did they mention in the article that the city hasn't paid for service on the existing tasers? And when they down for repair, they are down for good, no replacements. And that each district is issued 21 tasers and when the supply runs out that's it? all because the city refuses to pay to keep the dept in working equipment.
We checked with our local radio/rifle/TASER officer and it appears to be true as we're down a few TASERs already with nothing on the horizon. He says he's talked to Equipment and Supply and they have no TASERs available should one be rendered non-functional.
We guess that means the article about TASER usage being up will be another article about TASER usage being down once we run out.
We guess that means the article about TASER usage being up will be another article about TASER usage being down once we run out.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
79 Comments:
Tasers are one of the best tools we have. Not only are we short people we are short the tools to do our job effectivly.
How about they let us buy our own taser? We buy our own guns, carbines, ammo, oc sprays, etc, why not allow us to purchase our own taser.
I was under the impression that the Tasers were from Arizona and we all know the city doesn't want to do business with that state.
Typical City Bullshit.
Wait for the rifles to fail at a critical time because there is no manpower from the range armorers to check and maintain them. I haven't see the shotguns even dusted lately in the W/C's office.
Wait for some alderman to figure out Taser Intl is Arizona based and we have to "boycott" them.
I personally plan to spend part of next spring in AZ seeing a lot of baseball games.
OT/ Retro just hit.
I heard from a good source a year ago that the city never negotiated a repair contract when they aquired these tasers ( very forward thinking as usual). Every taser they sent in for repair taser was billing 500-800 dollars. If this is true I'm sure tasers will be a victim of attrition, just like our man power
OT. SCC ICE just had a no confidence vote on the bosscan we do a grass roots no confidence vote in J-bitch?
Not paying the bill is a long standing business practice for the City of Chicago. Despite sitting on over a billion in cash TIF funds and near a billion in capital asset sales proceeds, the City refuses to pay normal everyday bills due to non-clout non-connected vendors.
Oracle has also not been paid, hence, no updates to CLEAR.
There are others. The City of Chicago is a deadbeat. This has been going on for years, it is just much worse now.
Get your car damaged by a city vehicle, tough shit. You will wait a long time to get money. And then, after a long wait, you will likely be offered a settlement, 75 cents on the dollar, or be forced to wait longer.
Mayor Mumbles at work. do you think Michael Tadin or the others have to wait as long for their money? Of course not. Not if they kick back into a campaign fund.
Tasers are from Arizona and thus are specially modified not to shock illegal aliens.
I personally plan to spend part of next spring in AZ seeing a lot of baseball games.
Me too. At least that state has the balls to try and solve a growing problem without the fear of voter backlash.
Anonymous said...
OT/ Retro just hit.
8/07/2010 01:33:00 AM
Mine too, right there in the bank, where it will stay for about 15 minutes. Then, off to the casino to double down!
Just kidding. Pay a few bills, give the wife a few bucks to get something nice, get my oil changed and some new tires and then go to the toilet and take a nice steamy daley and then I will wipe my jody. It's been a long wait and that son of a bitch will pay come election. If the stuttering prick gets re-elected it won't be with my help.
The warrenty on the OLD Tasers has expired, the new ones are still under a warrenty. There is no money to fix the old ones.
u think thats bad wait until all the ink cartridges run out for the copiers and printers.
THEN U WILL KNOW WHAT A DEAD BEAT DALEYS CREW IS.
I too will be spending my furlo in Arizona this year. I had intended on going to Florida but with all the hypocrisy from the politicians here I decided to spend my dollars in one of the last free states in the Union.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki1kNGJMfrY
Outstanding! Perhaps as all the cars break down we'll be able to use the bicycles again.
Tasers cost $900 a piece and when the taser is damaged or broken it is junked. A new one has to be bought
I hearthat the repair contract is going to
Vanecko Taser Repair and Gun Range LLC.
Will the Lt's. on the Capt. list be promoted - or is it kaput?
Just remember everyone that Lover Boy Mike Picardi is the Director/Commander of Equipment and Supply. You remember him, he is the person who we have to thank for our fleet of rolling stock being what it is. Lover Boy could care less about Tasers or about your well being.
ISP Sgt said...
I was under the impression that the Tasers were from Arizona and we all know the city doesn't want to do business with that state
Just booked a resort vacation trip to Lake Havasu, Arizona in the fall. Trying to do my part to support a State that actually has respect for the Constitution. Right On Arizona, Right On!!!!!!
Did anyone get their retro money yet, I have direct deposit and still nothing 07 Aug?
OT
You know what's really sad and shows how this department has succumbed to Dickfed's leadership?
When an officer got shot, it took no more than three days before you had the offenders in custody. Now?
Sad, pathetic and shameful.
RIP/CPD
I would seriously doubt the $500-800 figure for Taser repair as the Tasers themselves don't cost that much and the consumables can be purchased in bulk at a reduced price. There really isn't much to repair/replace on these things so one has to wonder why they seem to be disappearing.
RETRO IS IN!
Let the POs buy them, then let the FOP store stock replecement parts, that way no boss will make money off it.
Bet T-Bone Hillard Taser Co.s Point man is steaming mad @ the City?
Nah like evry other former gold star pig he got his 30 scheckels & moved on. Policemens' Policeman, yeah right...
It's the same with everything else that the Empire of the Evil Little Man get hold of.
They get some money, usually federal, they buy something, usually from a connected source. Then do not pay for the upkeep.
Remember, the TASER Cameras.
It will be the same for the M-4 Carbines. When they start wearing out, no parts will be available unless they come from a connected source.
new hires will be required to buy their own TASER, just like they buy their own helmet, and ASPS (no more batons issued).
The next person who runs for Mayor should have the Battle Cry, "Audit the City's Books and End the Corruption Tax!"
Speaking of taxes, and I mean TAXES, one of the little gems tht the Democrats snuck in to pay for the health care of millions of non-producing citizens and non-citizens is a New Federal 3.8% Sales Tax on Real Estate Transactions.
So when you sell your $400K city mansion to downsize out of town when you retire you get stuck with a $15,200.00 tax bill for pay for Obamacare for the masses.
This TAX will kick in after the 2012 elections so as not to help ruin the Messiah's chances for reelection.
This along with a lot of other gem that Nancy Pelosi said, "We have to pass this bill so we can see what is in it."
Stay safe and get everyone you can to Register and Vote!
This is why we shouldn't learn to rely on the taser too much. I can see this happening. And there is nothing we can do about it. Even if they allowed us to buy our own taser (which is what the city will do) use that money to learn how to defend yourself.
Lets face the facts, how many of us uniformed police officers really know how to physically fuck up an assailant who is hell bent on harming you?
I speak from experience; with three years on the job, I only knew the very basics. I then learned some brazilian jiu jitsu and now I am still learning but right now, I have the knowledge to really put the hurt on someone if they want to fight me.
Bottom line, learn how to fight back.
The City's bond rating was just reduced. Now the poo-poo will hit the fan. Getting Tasers fixed will be the least of our problems. Everything Daley was doing to the budget, including demanding arbitration, was to keep the bond rating from being lowered. Now that it's happened regardless, City Hall is going to go nuts on the budget to keep it from being done by the other rating companies. The problem is that he knows he can't raise taxes in an election year. I can promise you though, the 2012 budget will see a substantial city property tax increase. Along with the County (new prez, don't you know), and a likely state income tax increase.
I predict Daley will lower our ranks to between 10,500 and 11,000. That's another 1500 to 2000 down. Hold on...
retro checks are here, so it's time to start thinking about buying some stuff from, or going to- ARIZONA
Taser doesn't repair the unit. Even with their warranty you have to pay half price to get a replacement if it was damaged on duty which is about $400.
retro checks have been deposited.
Tasers are one of the best tools we have. Not only are we short people we are short the tools to do our job effectivly.
--J. Fed is our biggest tool!
(OT) ***************ALERT*************
If You live in the Garfield Ridge Clearing area, The people from the department of revenue and the city clerk's office are targeting these areas for any type of violation on their vehicles! We are being targeted because we will pay our tickets the alderman Zalewski of the 23rd ward has taken a blind eye to the voters from this area and wants a Republican sweep as the anti-incumbent rebellion continues on! The same people who are writing all these useless citations are scared to do this in englewood and in pilsen! As daley allows all the illegals from mexico to populate his :sanctuary city" the taxpayers (US) are being forced to fill the void of revenue! Archer Ave.is a "ghost town" for business, as no business wants to build or open in this area the taxes are to high and the city sends the inspectors in constantly to harass the business owners that are left here.
Lets look at 63rd street around central, daley sold the parking meters to his cronies and miraculously they set up many high priced meter zones, up and down 63rd street causing more business to close and the ones left are a thread away from closing down forever! Look at the town of Lagrange,Il. very close to Chicago but thriving! Why? They just built a new multi-level parking garage, and all the street parking is FREE! The downtown area is great,clean and safe,and businesses cannot wait to open a place! Chicago is sinking fast Archer once a thriving area for business is looking more and more like the englewood business district everyday! Time to vote them all OUT!!
Don't need them anymore we work at 376!
And this suprises you? 1st & 16th.
Daley knows he wont win. We will suffer until the lil bastard is gone.
OT....anyone have any info/criticism/praise on Frederick Collins? Cpd running for sheriff. His website says all the right things but just want to hear if any cpd has an opinion on him before i back him.
Why go through logistics of training all those officers??
SOOOOOO do they want us to use it or not? WTF?
OT:
Is it me or is the media not doing body counts like they were last month? Remember on Chicagobreakingnews.com we'd get 20 wounded 5 killed overnight? Now apparently the body count was 17 wounded and 2 killed on Thursday/ Friday Night and only a mention of a homicide or two and someone critically wounded.
Wonder if this is Daley controlling the media again?
He said:
"Every taser they sent in for repair taser was billing 500-800 dollars. If this is true I'm sure tasers will be a victim of attrition, just like our man power."
I jut checked online and you can buy a new one for $879.
Off topic, but I didn't see it mentioned anywhere in the comments.
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/24453132/detail.html
Behold: "The community".
Unfortunately, the Taser didn't get to be used in this situation, however, hopefully, a few statutes will be put to use when charges are filed against the Reverend and everyone involved.
I see no rational reason for lasers to make an act of contrition.
Isn't former super Hilliard the spokesperson for the Tasers?
yada yada yahooie
When the Tasers go away, will they get us Phased Plasma Rifles in the 40 watt range?
Scc, could we get some kind of people shot/kilt tally ticket? seems like this weekend is going to be a bad one !
Savages escape from Arizona prison and kill elderly couple. These animals should be put down hard.
There was a FAX message sent out Tuesday saying equipment and supply is no longer in charge of the taser program. The academy range is now running it. Points of contact for repair, etc, and hours are listed in the message. Click on the fax message tab on the iclear home page. You can learn a lot about this department.
Like every other piece of technology that the department buys, they fail to realize that there will be on-going upkeep expenses that have to be included.
For all the controversy, the TASER is probably the best tool the department has allowed in the last 40 years. With the very liberal use guidelines, the SH's on the street know that you can shoot them only under extreme limited circumstances, anything above a dirty look with an aggressive act will get them tickled. And they don't like it. It saves a lot of injuries to both sides.
Such a lack of planning is scary. If they can't plan to procure consumable items like ammo, TASER cartridges, etc, how prepared are they for a real emergency??
Citizens, you are on your own. The City has abandoned you.
Having tasers is nice, but if they do down and not get replaced, we'll do what the revolver police used to do before tasers...use the wood shampoo or just shoot the
!*%&heads.
ruger 380s... made in AZ
"So when you sell your $400K city mansion to downsize out of town when you retire you get stuck with a $15,200.00 tax bill for pay for Obamacare for the masses."
Not unless you make more than $200,000=$250,000 income:
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/a-38-percent-sales-tax-on-your-home/
I think the morgue is going to start listing the number of people murdered on their new lighted billboard. It will be like McDonalds "Over one Billion Sold" kind of a thing.
(OT) ***************ALERT*************
If You live in the Garfield Ridge Clearing area, The people from the department of revenue and the city clerk's office are targeting these areas for any type of violation on their vehicles! We are being targeted because we will pay our tickets the alderman Zalewski of the 23rd ward has taken a blind eye to the voters from this area and wants a Republican sweep as the anti-incumbent rebellion continues on! The same people who are writing all these useless citations are scared to do this in englewood and in pilsen! As daley allows all the illegals from mexico to populate his :sanctuary city" the taxpayers (US) are being forced to fill the void of revenue! Archer Ave.is a "ghost town" for business, as no business wants to build or open in this area the taxes are to high and the city sends the inspectors in constantly to harass the business owners that are left here.
Lets look at 63rd street around central, daley sold the parking meters to his cronies and miraculously they set up many high priced meter zones, up and down 63rd street causing more business to close and the ones left are a thread away from closing down forever! Look at the town of Lagrange,Il. very close to Chicago but thriving! Why? They just built a new multi-level parking garage, and all the street parking is FREE! The downtown area is great,clean and safe,and businesses cannot wait to open a place! Chicago is sinking fast Archer once a thriving area for business is looking more and more like the englewood business district everyday! Time to vote them all OUT!!
8/07/2010 02:04:00 PM
Great post. Unfortunately it coincides with our economy. Look at all the factories and business closed on 65th street in Bedford Park. A lot of those people use to be in Unions making a decent wage and living in Garfield Ridge/Clearing. People that use to support the businesses on Archer and 63rd. Not only is it the high taxes and inspectors, but lack of customers in the area.
Anonymous said...
Having tasers is nice, but if they do down and not get replaced, we'll do what the revolver police used to do before tasers...use the wood shampoo or just shoot the
!*%&heads.
8/07/2010 11:20:00 PM
Just remember that if you are justified hitting someone in the head with a baton you are also justified in shooting with a gun. Both are considered deadly force.
Anonymous said...
Savages escape from Arizona prison and kill elderly couple. These animals should be put down hard.
8/07/2010 09:09:00 PM
Perhaps they will cross the border and sneak into Mexico and go to a sanctuary city where they will get food coupons, a welfare cash card, rent subsidies, drive through alleys in a pickup truck and no drivers license up picking up scrap metal and then go on marches protesting how they are treated.
Or maybe they will just encounter the Mexican police who will kill them on the spot and leave their bodies to rot in the desert.
This is why we shouldn't learn to rely on the taser too much. I can see this happening. And there is nothing we can do about it. Even if they allowed us to buy our own taser (which is what the city will do) use that money to learn how to defend yourself.
Lets face the facts, how many of us uniformed police officers really know how to physically fuck up an assailant who is hell bent on harming you?
I speak from experience; with three years on the job, I only knew the very basics. I then learned some brazilian jiu jitsu and now I am still learning but right now, I have the knowledge to really put the hurt on someone if they want to fight me.
Bottom line, learn how to fight back.
8/07/2010 11:58:00 AM
ok moron when you put the hurt on them and you get sued. You can explain how you used ju jitsu on him instead of what you were trained in the academy. Go get your shoe shine box kid.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is why we shouldn't learn to rely on the taser too much. I can see this happening. And there is nothing we can do about it. Even if they allowed us to buy our own taser (which is what the city will do) use that money to learn how to defend yourself.
Lets face the facts, how many of us uniformed police officers really know how to physically fuck up an assailant who is hell bent on harming you?
I speak from experience; with three years on the job, I only knew the very basics. I then learned some brazilian jiu jitsu and now I am still learning but right now, I have the knowledge to really put the hurt on someone if they want to fight me.
Bottom line, learn how to fight back.
8/07/2010 11:58:00 AM
ok moron when you put the hurt on them and you get sued. You can explain how you used ju jitsu on him instead of what you were trained in the academy. Go get your shoe shine box kid.
8/08/2010 03:51:00 AM
Let me clarify, do you know how to fight back against an assailant who is hell bent on causing great bodily harm to you? Do you know the sensitive parts of the body to strike that can cause a whole lot of pain? Do you know how to throw someone to the ground? I think you catch my drift.
All I said was learn how to fight back and don't rely too much on the taser, pepper spray, asp, etc...
Anonymous said...
ruger 380s... made in AZ
8/08/2010 12:37:00 AM
That settles it, Ruger over the Kahr. I will go out of my way to always buy from Arizona.
>>>"Anonymous said...
"So when you sell your $400K city mansion to downsize out of town when you retire you get stuck with a $15,200.00 tax bill for pay for Obamacare for the masses."
Not unless you make more than $200,000=$250,000 income:
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/a-38-percent-sales-tax-on-your-home/
8/08/2010 12:47:00 AM"
Don't you get it.
After the next elections, if you sell your $200-300-400K home you ARE among richest folks that Obama has targeted.
So are you gonna vote for the Messiah again and take a chance that your won't get robbed by Democrat Tax, Spend, Borrow, Print Money, Inflation, Give Away Taxes?
To 8/07/2010 03:06:00 PM
Talk to people from 012
I then learned some brazilian jiu jitsu and now I am still learning but right now, I have the knowledge to really put the hurt on someone if they want to fight me
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see you in the funny papers
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is why we shouldn't learn to rely on the taser too much. I can see this happening. And there is nothing we can do about it. Even if they allowed us to buy our own taser (which is what the city will do) use that money to learn how to defend yourself.
Lets face the facts, how many of us uniformed police officers really know how to physically fuck up an assailant who is hell bent on harming you?
I speak from experience; with three years on the job, I only knew the very basics. I then learned some brazilian jiu jitsu and now I am still learning but right now, I have the knowledge to really put the hurt on someone if they want to fight me.
Bottom line, learn how to fight back.
8/07/2010 11:58:00 AM
ok moron when you put the hurt on them and you get sued. You can explain how you used ju jitsu on him instead of what you were trained in the academy. Go get your shoe shine box kid.
8/08/2010 03:51:00 AM
Ok "Bruce Lee", master! I have recently retired worked all kinds of special units,and was in the Navy as a SEAL E-7 grade! Now kicking ass years ago was good to go, now with all the cameras and a leader in charge that would just as well sic his federal friends on you as look at you follow the rules,get your pension, and STAY OUT OF JAIL!
8/07/2010 11:58:00 AM
ok moron when you put the hurt on them and you get sued. You can explain how you used ju jitsu on him instead of what you were trained in the academy. Go get your shoe shine box kid.
and when you tase the guy contributing to his death you're not gonna get sued - or worse ?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) ***************ALERT*************
If You live in the Garfield Ridge Clearing area, The people from the department of revenue and the city clerk's office are targeting these areas for any type of violation on their vehicles! We are being targeted because we will pay our tickets the alderman Zalewski of the 23rd ward has taken a blind eye to the voters from this area and wants a Republican sweep as the anti-incumbent rebellion continues on! The same people who are writing all these useless citations are scared to do this in englewood and in pilsen! As daley allows all the illegals from mexico to populate his :sanctuary city" the taxpayers (US) are being forced to fill the void of revenue! Archer Ave.is a "ghost town" for business, as no business wants to build or open in this area the taxes are to high and the city sends the inspectors in constantly to harass the business owners that are left here.
Lets look at 63rd street around central, daley sold the parking meters to his cronies and miraculously they set up many high priced meter zones, up and down 63rd street causing more business to close and the ones left are a thread away from closing down forever! Look at the town of Lagrange,Il. very close to Chicago but thriving! Why? They just built a new multi-level parking garage, and all the street parking is FREE! The downtown area is great,clean and safe,and businesses cannot wait to open a place! Chicago is sinking fast Archer once a thriving area for business is looking more and more like the englewood business district everyday! Time to vote them all OUT!!
8/07/2010 02:04:00 PM
Great post. Unfortunately it coincides with our economy. Look at all the factories and business closed on 65th street in Bedford Park. A lot of those people use to be in Unions making a decent wage and living in Garfield Ridge/Clearing. People that use to support the businesses on Archer and 63rd. Not only is it the high taxes and inspectors, but lack of customers in the area.
8/08/2010 02:58:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Having tasers is nice, but if they do down and not get replaced, we'll do what the revolver police used to do before tasers...use the wood shampoo or just shoot the
!*%&heads.
8/07/2010 11:20:00 PM
Just remember that if you are justified hitting someone in the head with a baton you are also justified in shooting with a gun. Both are considered deadly force.
8/08/2010 03:08:00 AM
FYI information the guy doing this drives a White Street and sans full size van, he works out of the 23rd ward yard 5556 S. Central not going to name him but he lives in Garfield ridge works for alderman Zalewski, he is about 55 years old Hispanic,the van is parked in the ward yard in case you want to see it, he told me that all laws need to be enforced including guys who park in the ward yard! Talk about shitting where you live, personally next time I see the van i will make sure he does not violate any laws,and will keep an eye on his block and enforce all the laws and make sure his neighbors know it is his idea to ticket them to "enforce the laws" another reason to vote them all out how could an alderman tell this clown to do this?
ok moron when you put the hurt on them and you get sued. You can explain how you used ju jitsu on him instead of what you were trained in the academy. Go get your shoe shine box kid.
...................................
you sir, are the moron. excuse me sir while i use an open hand strike or braccial stun. if someone is trying to harm me i am going to use every thing i know. if includes martial arts then i am going to use it.if i am going up aganst a active assaliant then all bets are off. good paper is your next best defense. i am going to go home every night safe.
Anonymous said...
This is why we shouldn't learn to rely on the taser too much. I can see this happening. And there is nothing we can do about it. Even if they allowed us to buy our own taser (which is what the city will do) use that money to learn how to defend yourself.
Lets face the facts, how many of us uniformed police officers really know how to physically fuck up an assailant who is hell bent on harming you?
I speak from experience; with three years on the job, I only knew the very basics. I then learned some brazilian jiu jitsu and now I am still learning but right now, I have the knowledge to really put the hurt on someone if they want to fight me.
Bottom line, learn how to fight back.
8/07/2010 11:58:00 AM
ok moron when you put the hurt on them and you get sued. You can explain how you used ju jitsu on him instead of what you were trained in the academy. Go get your shoe shine box kid.
8/08/2010 03:51:00 AM
That is very good advice. Deviate from training or department policy and you might have a problem. Noramlly the department will help you. Not now. They will hurt you if any rule or policy is violated. But it is good to hear a officer that stays in shape and learns new skills.
If you buy a Taser C2 for personal use and have to use it,sent in the taser and a copy of the police report and they will send you a new one free of charge.
It's on the Taser C2 website.
captains are out and so is rank of field lt.
mayor daley and superintendent weiss have figured it out , no field lt assigned to districts for the past two years and watch commanders were always filled in by lts 2 or 3 days a week and now
everyday on second watch and 70 % of 1st and 3rd watch
they also woke up and realized the captains were all lts before becoming captains through a merit political clouted process
that's right not the best and brightest but political hacks and 90 % were merit political hack selected lt and sgts
city cannot afford these promotions
this means that all you political hack clouted merit lts will have to wait to join the command staff of cpd
good luck boys and girls
lts will soon be 100 % merit political clout appointments
rumor is 1 more small class from old list
When the Tasers go away, will they get us Phased Plasma Rifles in the 40 watt range?
+++++++++++++++
Nice night for a walk.
Anonymous said...
If you buy a Taser C2 for personal use and have to use it,sent in the taser and a copy of the police report and they will send you a new one free of charge.
It's on the Taser C2 website.
8/08/2010 01:06:00 PM
I am not sure if CPD allows officers to buy their own Tasers. Better to use broken CPD crap than your own well cared for equipment.
8/08/2010 10:46:00 AM
I live by that guy and he told me the alderman wants this done! I think he is on his own personal vendetta against the remaining white residents, he is just another racist with some power! But I have friends working that area and they will take an extra special look, at him and how come he is home hiding the van on company time? Hello inspector general1
"Don't you get it.
After the next elections, if you sell your $200-300-400K home you ARE among richest folks that Obama has targeted."
I get it, but I don't think you do. It appears you'd rather scare people with false info.
If you're single the first $250K profit on your home is not taxed. If you're married, the first $500K profit on your home is not taxed. Now you do the math.
rumor is 1 more small class from old list
8/08/2010 03:03:00 PM
Who started that rumour? You? This job is filled with twits.
SCC Presidents report from latest RCPA newsletter has some depressing pension news. Sorry dont know howo to post it
To 8/07/2010 03:06:00 PM
Talk to people from 012.
If they can stop laughing long enough. On the other hand he is not an incumbent.
OT:
A new blog for the County and anyone else who cares to read or post.
WWW.COOKCOUNTYCCC.BLOGSPOT.COM
Thanks in advance SCC.
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