Game On!
Once again, the Disorderly Conduct statute is back in play:
- Appellate judges say Chicago police can again enforce a disorderly conduct law that a lower court had ruled violated rights of free speech.
The disputed provision lets police order someone to leave the vicinity of a disturbance involving three or more people -- even if that person isn't involved in the commotion.
The 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals says anti-war protesters who convinced the lower court to halt enforcement didn't have standing to challenge the law.
The 15-page opinion released this week stops short of saying the law is constitutional. And the opinion says someone could successfully challenge it later.
Or maybe not? Are we still running with the "an officer's peace cannot be breached" kind of enforcement? That seemed to cover most eventualities.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
24 Comments:
The collective rights of PO's to demonstrate against TYRANNY can and WILL soon be silenced by the Courts.
DEFEND AMERICA AND SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTIONS AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
Back to the tac team for me!
To late fuck you. Im done!
What's the statute. I'm going to use this tomorrow for sure.
Yippee! We can lock someone up for 4 hours!
I know my right. I know the law and what I say, I saw, I saw!
Disorderly Conduct - 193-1g is back? Oh, I'm old!
lets get something in writing from the law dept... i will use it daily with these savages.. finally we can take them to jail for acting like idiots
who cares! lets see jody do it first, oh wait he'll probably try and lock up an officer on sept 15
There is not a chance in hell that I will ever enforce that statute. Not unless a sergeant signs the complaint and I am transport car only. My name has ceased to be seen on any criminal complaints.
Not until I have written guarantees of indemnity for all civil damages incurred in the line of duty in case of lawsuit, including punitive.
Lacking that, I am a report taker. period. jody be damned.
As for traffic court, I will skip it this month, I have more important things to do on my day off than watch people parade out with never a conviction. Why bother? They never listen to police so I won't put myself through the embarrassment of testifying. Someone else can play charades in traffic court. Not me. I'll take a deviation. I really do not care any more. And jody can't make me. this is not a fight I will engage in any longer. going through the motions, that is all.
Bring it back on baby! Bring it back! If we are allowed to use this statute then I will have a great time locking up assholes.
SCC, explain more. What will this actually change for us?
I don't expect good ole Deb Kirby to fill us in!
To 4:39 am, maybe you don't know how to testify.....I see people getting hammered at Traffic Court all the time, a minimum $90 fine PLUS $145 in (draconian) court costs for a city violation.
Go ahead and blow off TC and put those reasons down in your to/from as to why you were deviated, I'd love to be a fly on the wall of that office when the WC reads it.
Learn how to do your job and that includes testifying. Testifying at TC teaches you how to do it so you don't screw it up when it really counts in a felony case.
Signed: A traffic guy.
The judges said that the law is most likely unconstitutional, but the protesters lacked standing to sue under the grounds that the law interfered with their First Amendment rights. The court still said they were wrongly arrested.
Do not fool yourself into thinking this law is good to go, or you will soon be the next test case in Federal Court.
There is not a chance in hell that I will ever enforce that statute. Not unless a sergeant signs the complaint and I am transport car only. My name has ceased to be seen on any criminal complaints.
Not until I have written guarantees of indemnity for all civil damages incurred in the line of duty in case of lawsuit, including punitive.
Lacking that, I am a report taker. period. jody be damned.
As for traffic court, I will skip it this month, I have more important things to do on my day off than watch people parade out with never a conviction. Why bother? They never listen to police so I won't put myself through the embarrassment of testifying. Someone else can play charades in traffic court. Not me. I'll take a deviation. I really do not care any more. And jody can't make me. this is not a fight I will engage in any longer. going through the motions, that is all.
9/04/2010 04:39:00 AM
You know what this sounds like to me?
WAH WAH WAH WAH!
You should of taken a different career path. You big god damn baby
Forget it, I'm not going back to that again.
Can I get a fucking event number!
"The 15-page opinion released this week stops short of saying the law is constitutional".
No Thanks. Not enforcing this one. Don't need to lose my earned money after being accessed punitive damages in a civil suit.
Why not insist on cash bonds and if the shithead doesn't have the money send him to the judge in the morning? 26 & Cal is empty, fill it up with those who can't pay the bond and enforce the forfeiture of bail bond order.
Anonymous said...
There is not a chance in hell that I will ever enforce that statute. Not unless a sergeant signs the complaint and I am transport car only. My name has ceased to be seen on any criminal complaints.
Not until I have written guarantees of indemnity for all civil damages incurred in the line of duty in case of lawsuit, including punitive.
Lacking that, I am a report taker. period. jody be damned.
As for traffic court, I will skip it this month, I have more important things to do on my day off than watch people parade out with never a conviction. Why bother? They never listen to police so I won't put myself through the embarrassment of testifying. Someone else can play charades in traffic court. Not me. I'll take a deviation. I really do not care any more. And jody can't make me. this is not a fight I will engage in any longer. going through the motions, that is all.
9/04/2010 04:39:00 AM
You know what this sounds like to me?
WAH WAH WAH WAH!
You should of taken a different career path. You big god damn baby
9/04/2010 11:10:00 AM
I am on a different career path. I will still be paid for this one until that one is ready to go.
Without someone other than me signing a complaint i am not arresting anyone! Fuck it the dept does not have your back when they want to take your job/home/savings! Let the animals reign just not in my neighborhood, over east fuck it game on!
You should of taken a different career path. You big god damn baby
9/04/2010 11:10:00 AM
Maybe the more accurate reason not to do a god damn thing is to prevent Daley from getting re-elected off the backs of the police.
If you've chosen not to do any more work other than the minimal legal requirements, make sure you're doing it for the right reason.
To help make sure Daley can't use OUR efforts to win another election.
Don't do SHIT until Daley is GONE!!!
Anonymous said...
You should of taken a different career path. You big god damn baby
9/04/2010 11:10:00 AM
Maybe the more accurate reason not to do a god damn thing is to prevent Daley from getting re-elected off the backs of the police.
If you've chosen not to do any more work other than the minimal legal requirements, make sure you're doing it for the right reason.
To help make sure Daley can't use OUR efforts to win another election.
Don't do SHIT until Daley is GONE!!!
9/04/2010 07:01:00 PM
Amen to that.
There is not a chance in hell that I will ever enforce that statute. Not unless a sergeant signs the complaint and I am transport car only. My name has ceased to be seen on any criminal complaints.
Not until I have written guarantees of indemnity for all civil damages incurred in the line of duty in case of lawsuit, including punitive.
Lacking that, I am a report taker. period. jody be damned.
As for traffic court, I will skip it this month, I have more important things to do on my day off than watch people parade out with never a conviction. Why bother? They never listen to police so I won't put myself through the embarrassment of testifying. Someone else can play charades in traffic court. Not me. I'll take a deviation. I really do not care any more. And jody can't make me. this is not a fight I will engage in any longer. going through the motions, that is all.
9/04/2010 04:39:00 AM
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And since Lenihan, Farley, and Bartik are on the hook for a "false confession" - I am a bit hesitant to do the same.
There was some memo out by Kirby about det's now being able to take handwrittens w/ the ASA -
non-handwritten confession reported on by a detective is like an on-view arrest by the tact team - no?
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