All Judges Retained
Cook County voters Tuesday narrowly retained four Circuit Court judges who had been deemed unqualified to continue on the bench by several legal groups.
Jim Ryan and Susan McDunn each garnered about 63 percent of the vote, just above the required 60 percent to be retained; Dorothy Jones pulled in 64 percent; and William O'Neal recorded 66 percent.
"The bar groups who spend many hours interviewing and vetting these judges are disappointed," said Jeannine Cordero, chair of the Chicago Bar Association judicial evaluation committee.
Public identified as "unqualified," yet they remain in their spots. This is exactly why we and many others we converse with run down the list and vote "No" for every single judge. Any change is good in terms of the corrupt City of Chicago, County of Cook and State of Illinois.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
55 Comments:
judge ryan is not all that bad
what percentage of all voters who voted bothered to vote to retain any judges?
i'll bet that the total votes cast to retain, plus the total votes cast to not retain, is no more than 10% of the total votes cast for the governor's race.
I myself can't believe how many people that I talked to that didn't even bother with the voting for the judges. What a joke and a waste of an opportunity to make a difference. It is sick to me how little people care!
We are fucked! Apathetic sheep!
We second that SCC!
Everyone we know voted "no retention" on every one of these knee-walking assholes!
The People of Chicago are crazy!
They've demonstrated time and again that they neither want nor deserve freedom or safety.
President Sparklefarts said they must get out the vote. And they did. For Daley Inc.
How can people constantly hear about how judges let violent offenders go with a slap on the wrist and still vote yes to retaining them? My guess is that people just don't know so vote yes for fear of screwing things up. Things are already screwed up and have been for a long time. Enjoy being victims citizens!
It's the power of the Machine to keep the voters ignorant.
i don't know about you, but i voted no for all of them. what percentage gets them voted out?
Pay to play. Need i say anymore?
Isn't this just the epitome of Crook County.
Nicholas Ford was the only one that got my support. A stand up guy!!
With all the turmoil over all the negative adds in all of the elective political offices, the judgeships seemed to fly under the radar.
For my part, I did what I usually do... Vote NO on every one of the Dem political hacks, so don't blame me.
You're welcome!
They should ALL have been sent packing. There are tens of thousands of hungry lawyers itching for a chance to throw the robes on and put an end to their daily hustle to survive.
I voted "No", because none of those judges were worthy of my vote.
OT ~ John Kass talks to Gery Chico on Mayor's race.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists
/ct-met-kass-1103-20101103,0,417263.column?page=1&obref=obinsite
Those Irish last names swept them in. And not blaming you, SCC, but where was a list published declaring what judges in this last election weren't qualified?
I'd have to say Dorothy Jones is about the worst judge I have ever had the displeasure of meeting up in a courtroom when she was assigned at Kedzie & Flournoy. How that dingbat ever managed to obtain a law degree from DePaul U and pass the bar is anyone's guess. I wouldn't allow that stupid woman bag my groceries at Jewel!
WE have got to become more proactive as Police Officers when these elections come out. It's kind of sad that with all the drivel we see posted here, nothing was said about what judges we should have been pulling for, or against. That's just gotta change.
When Ryan gets 63% of the vote what makes you think the efficiency of the machine and the ignorance of voters are mutually exclusive.
Pathetic, just pathetic. What a total embarassment that that guy got retained. Brazen about not working a full day, the gall to complain about Fox News doing that story about him, and then there is his courtroom attitude....
http://www.voteforjudges.org/
Hmmm they recommended Lampkin - so what's that tell you?
With all the turmoil over all the negative adds in all of the elective political offices, the judgeships seemed to fly under the radar.
=I didn't hear a thing during all of these political ads about the judges. Maybe before the next election we can start a thread for opinions to at least be enlightened by people's experiences with these judges. No publicity on judges, but that's the way to do it, keep the citizens in the dark so they have no idea who to retain and who to give the boot to.
So, who takes the lead in informing voters? I tracked down a list on the CBA website, but until someone actually creates a list and has people at the polls handing out the list, what do you expect. Most of the people voting haven't a clue about the judges. If you want to get rid of these guys, don't whine about voters - its a waste of air. Do something about it - get the FOP to create a "do not retain" list, and get some people out to hand to voters.
As one old-timer told me" Judges think they sit at the right hand of God. Just remember kid, they are nothing but lawyers with a robe on".Never vote to retain any of them unless you know them personally.
Voted "no retention" for ALL of these "left is the best" judges... and they still get retained. The machine at work !!
Every year, every voter must go to the Chicago Bar ASsociation website. Print it out and take it to the voting booth with you.
Right there, right at the top of the page is a list of their recommendations for non-retention.
CBA needs to do a better job of publicizing their non-retention recommendations.
I, and all members of my family, voted no on all the judges.
Never had a problem with Judge Ryan, but to those who keep moaning and whinning: maybe if you were able to accurately write or testify as to probable cause you would quit bitching. Just because "My Captain approved probable cause" don't mean shit.
President Sparklefarts said they must get out the vote. And they did. For Daley Inc.
11/04/2010 01:09:00 AM
Then how do you explain Senator Kirk?
If Nobama's call to vote saved Quinn and other Democrats, including judges from Daley Inc., how was the call not answered for Giannoulias? Nobama pitched hard for the Greek kid and Kirk was definitely beatable.
At the polls most of the voters looked at the huge number of judges on the ballot and just simply chose to skip it completely.
Yes, the democratic party of Cook county is alive and well and still very effective. Berrios was elected that should tell you something. Far too many people voted based on their party affiliation, ethnic or racial background and not for who would do the best job. Sounds very much like the promotion system of the police department.The citizens will get what they voted for,: corruption, wasteful spending, patronage,nepotism and cronyism and higher taxes.
jim ryan aka mike sheahans cousin is a piece of shit.
And the dumbocrats will steal and cheat to get quinn re-elected as always crook county,shitcago that is the crime wave!
I voted no to all
I voted all of them out. This judicial system needs new blood. 10yrs. on the bench is pensionable with unheard of benefits for life. FUCK THAT!
JUDGE EPSTEIN? That guy is a clown liberal P.O.S. Won't even let P.O.'s sit in the court room while hearing cases because our presence alone is menacing and sways cases.
Jeremiah Mearday? Univ. of Chgo. law professor, pro-bono gun for hire? Fucking coppers over and over all the time with decent cases and good pinches.
Who in the heck would vote Yes? I and everyone I know vote no mainly becasue this is Illinois most of these "Judges" are crooks and/or inept.
if nothing else, it's cathartic to vote no so many times.
The one section of the ballot where people can actually make a difference and they screw it up....
william o'neal works out of the markham courthouse at 165th and kedzie.
hands down the worst, racist (o neal is black), slowest, incompetent, judge serving.
i guess this retention means he can keep fucking up traffic court for years to come!
The Illinois Bar Association website lists the judges and whether they're qualified before each election. I didn't used to know how to vote either. They did list Bertina Lampkin as "qualified," however.
THE PEOPLE OF CHICAGO HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD BY THEIR PARENTS THAT IF A JUDGE MAKES IT TO ELECTION, THAN JUST KEEP HIM IN. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT, STUPID PEOPLE VOTE FOR STUPID PEOPLE, THIS IS CHICAGO.....
W.GODINEZ 013- DIST.
They only have to get 60% of ballots cast in that retention, not the total number of ballots in the election. That's why these losers keep getting retained.
Dorothy Jones is a deadbeat staying one step ahead of the creditors. 160k a year for doing nothing and still won't pay her bills.
I voted "NO!" for all the judges. I figured if we could wipe the slate clean with a new set of judges to see how they operate then so be it. I do know people that voted and did not even touch the judges section...
Everyone we know voted "no retention" on every one of these knee-walking assholes!
The People of Chicago are crazy!
They've demonstrated time and again that they neither want nor deserve freedom or safety.
President Sparklefarts said they must get out the vote. And they did. For Daley Inc.
11/04/2010 01:09:00 AM
You are absolutely incorrect. Most people don't vote for judges because they don't know who the fuck they are or have the info that is needed to help them make the best possible decision when voting. Everyone knows that...or do they??!!
where was a list published declaring what judges in this last election weren't qualified?
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Chicago Bar Association web site
I voted to kick them all out.
Like I always do.
is the absence of any vote mark on the retention side of the ballot counted as a 'yes'?
"You are absolutely incorrect. Most people don't vote for judges because they don't know who the fuck they are or have the info that is needed to help them make the best possible decision when voting. Everyone knows that...or do they??!!
11/04/2010 03:02:00 PM"
most people don't bother to vote on judicial retentions at all, and this election's full page of retentions just increased that most to practically all.
compare the total number of votes cast, in cook county, for the governor's contest, to the total number of votes cast to retain/not retain.
then talk about most people giving a rat's ass about making 'the best possible decision when voting'.
Years ago...Carol Kelly was an outstanding Judge in juvenile court.
Anonymous said...
I voted all of them out. This judicial system needs new blood. 10yrs. on the bench is pensionable with unheard of benefits for life. FUCK THAT!
JUDGE EPSTEIN? That guy is a clown liberal P.O.S. Won't even let P.O.'s sit in the court room while hearing cases because our presence alone is menacing and sways cases.
Jeremiah Mearday? Univ. of Chgo. law professor, pro-bono gun for hire? Fucking coppers over and over all the time with decent cases and good pinches.
11/04/2010 11:06:00 AM
Unfortunately Judge Epstein got his judgeship originally only because his wife died. He was married to Skokie Court Chief Judge Joan Corboy. She was killed at her father's condo in Florida (dad is big time PI attorney Phil Corboy) and then defense attorney Epstein was appointed to finish her judge position.
With Corboy family clout Epstein got a full judgeship and now is at the Appellate level.
At Skokie they called him No time Epstein.
where was a list published declaring what judges in this last election weren't qualified?
Via these websites:
Chicago Council of Lawyers
Chicago Bar Association
Illinois Bar Association
Anonymous said...
judge ryan is not all that bad
11/04/2010 12:07:00 AM
Now that is a bright and shining endorsement of a judge, "not all that bad."
As long as he doesn't eat children I guess he should be judge.
My personal rule is to vote against anyone named Ryan who is running for anything anywhere. When in doubt, kick the toora loora shamrock wearing crowd out.
I voted yes on Bertucci and No on every other judge as did my wife and my daughter. Guess our votes don't count, but then again what do you expect, this Crook County.
That's funny. I voted 3 pages worth of "no's" for all judges. No exceptions. Everyone I talked to said they did the same yet all these god like creatures retain their benches. Amazing.
Why do we even hold elections? I know the voters spoke and those who are impervious to the law continue to distort its power. They continue to put the public-voters-in danger by putting these shitbirds back on the street.
Corruption is king!
Majority is uninformed and unaware of the Chicago Bar Association recommendations regarding judges. It makes no sense for us to vote for these judges. A panel such as the Bar asscociation would be more qualified to appoint these positions.
judge ryan is not all that bad
11/04/2010 12:07:00 AM
Thanks for the nice comment Ma
Love your son...xox
Anonymous said...
judge ryan is not all that bad
11/04/2010 12:07:00 AM
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If you say so, Mrs. Ryan.
He had to be relieved of regular court duties because of some of the bullshit he pulled. I think he's in some courtroom now where he only has to deal with his own kind, i.e., lawyers.
Here is some of the bullshit he put people through when he sat on the bench in the 3rd district in Rolling Meadows prior to being relieve of his duties there by the chief judge.
Bear in mind, this was published in the Trib in 2002, and he hasn't gotten any better over the years.
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"Most voters knew about one Jim Ryan on their ballot. In Cook County there were three--one running for governor, one vying in the south suburbs to become a circuit judge, and one attempting to stay on the bench.
The first two lost. The third, Circuit Judge James T. Ryan, won, even though he was strongly opposed by virtually every bar group and newspaper editorial page, including this one.
Ryan proved that it has become nearly impossible to remove a bad judge through a retention election, no matter how unqualified or offensive he may be. Ryan needed 60 percent of the vote to retain his $136,000-a-year job. He got 62 percent. If only a few more people had voted against him, he would be engaged in a more appropriate activity now: shopping his resume around.
Ryan once forced a woman to urinate on herself, by refusing to allow her to leave his courtroom. He told two little girls they would "go to hell" if they didn't tell the truth in testimony about their dead poodle. He found a woman guilty for speeding and fined her, even though she was in labor and racing to the hospital when she got the ticket. In these and other cases, he was downright abusive to the people in his court.
But he won the right to stay for another six years. So did every other judge running for retention in Cook County, even though several of them have records of imcompetence and unjudicious behavior."
"Now that is a bright and shining endorsement of a judge, 'not all that bad.'"
It's Cook County - 'not all that bad' IS a shining endoresement, unfortunately.
Don't judges require a certain percentage of "Yes" votes to in order to stay in office?
I was under the impression that not voting for them can be almost as harmful as voting "No" to retain.
I voted to retain based on the FOP recommendation and voted "No" on the others, except for Judge Ford, who I know to be pro-police.
Most of the cook county judges get
elected simply because people don't know them, and just mark anything down in the votors box, There is no way in hell that that piece of SHIT, Dorothy Jones should have even got out of high school let alone get a law degree, someone has to visit the weataidw court rooms and listen to her, she has no clue and berates the police. Her husband used to drive a bust out pick up truck and she came to the 11th district for work riding with this Sanford and son looking guy who was her husband, and she hates the police bec ause they locked him up awhile back.
Don't judges require a certain percentage of "Yes" votes to in order to stay in office?
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Out of the number of votes actually cast, yea or nay for retention, they require only 60% affirmative votes to retain their seat on the bench.
That's like getting a D in school, to borrow an analogy.
I think they need to up the ante to at least 70%, but that will never happen.
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