Thursday, June 16, 2011

Getting Safer Every Day

  • Chicago police today released a community alert warning of the attempted kidnapping of a jogger on a lakefront bike path.

    The 30-year-old woman was jogging Friday on the path at about the 3500 block of South Lake Shore Drive when the attacker grabbed her from behind in an attempt to pull her to an unspecified location, police said in the alert issued Wednesday night.

    After a brief struggle the woman broke free and escaped, while the attacker fled northbound on the bike path, police said.

    The alert describes the attacker a black, 19-21 years old, 5-foot-11 to 6-foot tall, 200 to 210 pounds with a dark complexion, He was wearing blue jeans with blue boxer shorts, and no shirt.
Holy Crap! A description? By the Tribune Company? But race doesn't have anything to do with the crime, right? Asshats.

Any bets on (A) the return of Summer Mobile or (B) the return of a Lakefront Overtime Initiative? Or is Rahm just going to pull one of these out of his hat?


You just wave it over your head Rahm - like the French Army.

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72 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bet no overtime initiative at all! Rahm really does not give a shit about the taxpayers being robbed! But he is raving about installing new cameras! Why the fuck not remove burkes-neelys-daleys-staff of valets? "More Boots on the street rahm a gmac" what are you thinking?

6/16/2011 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous SCC Fan said...

I recall a female PO in 021 catching a rapist in the act on the bike path near the same area about 10 or 12 years ago, I think she was a bike officer.

Used to be that the best riding for enthusiasts was south of McFetridge. Now, the whole lakefront bike path is like a dangerous obstacle course! Predators stand on the sidelines waiting to pounce.

A few well placed rounds from an armed cyclist might do this shithole city some good! At the very least, 10 million scoville pepper spray should be a cycling staple.

Can't enjoy anything in this city without the entitled masses ruining it!

6/16/2011 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hear that they are looking for money to fund a summer initiative buy back program...

6/16/2011 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we need more cameras correct mayor? LOL! We need police! We need National guard! We need an airstrike! Your allowing the pr fest this weekend at least thanks to Tom Skilling we will get rain,at least it will wash the blood down the sewers quickly as the gangs are promising more shit! What about the animals beating the shit out of White people! Where are the feds? Is this not a "hate crime?" If the good old boys were doing it we would be flooded with FBI agents but strangely as the breeders do this shit hmm no feds why? Eric Holder in bed with the gangs? barry?

6/16/2011 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why did the French plant trees on the sides of their streets?

They heard the Germans like to march in the shade.

How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?

Nobody knows. It's never been done.

Surely we can come up with variations with just a few substitutions...

6/16/2011 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well that's it for me, no more Tribune. Identifying someone by their RACE?!? My God, what is this wirld coming to?

6/16/2011 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a good thing this woman was a jogger, she managed to get loose and ran off. If she weren't so athletic, this incident might have taken a more ugly turn.

6/16/2011 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say lake front but your going to need 15 plus years. Just like you need for anything else oh well.

6/16/2011 02:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They described his boxer shorts. This is your attacker, folks. A thug piece of shit who never worked and walks around with his pants down under his ass waiting to beat, rob, rape and kill you.

These social experiments from the left turned out just right, didn't they? You got exactly what you deserve for voting for liberal assholes all of these years.

Now enjoy your left wing sanctuary city.

6/16/2011 05:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say lake front but your going to need 15 plus years. Just like you need for anything else oh well.

And when you are at that point in your career, will you be thinking the same way or will you suddenly change tune and and cry "sorry kid. We'll talk when you get some time on this job".

6/16/2011 05:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who are these Nasty Ass Officers that leave their Garbage and all kinds of Crap from sunflower seeds to spilled coffee all over the front section of Fucking Squad Cars. It's like being trapped in a fucking rolling garbage truck. I mean it's bad enough the squad sounds like Chitty Shitty Bang Bang now it Dirty and sticky too. WTF I'm sure some of you have seen worse. I'm just saying

6/16/2011 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Black on black means a description is allowed. Fact.

6/16/2011 06:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I could care less if they paid time and a half or double time. They stuck a fork in me years ago. They got the city they wanted. Fuck them I wouldnt sign up or do shit for these poltician assholes!

6/16/2011 07:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Im on Furlo BUT would be the first one to volunteer to work for PATROLMAN pay to get a few shifts out by the Lake or anywhere!


I need some opportunities my seniority is I guess too low and I can't seem to get any special I request!

Signed

Willing to Help

5 yr SGT. in need of $$$

6/16/2011 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the definition of a French hero?

The last one to surrender.

6/16/2011 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous bobbo said...

Even if you put more cops on the streets, there's still a shortage of vehicles for them.

6/16/2011 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To once again add a touch of journalism guidelines here, the Tribune (and I used to be a reporter there) is allowed to use race as part of the description when the description is substantive. in this case they have height, weight, build, clothing, etc., so its not just a "black guy in his 20s."

6/16/2011 08:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was a p.o.'s sister.

6/16/2011 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From a civilian - why would this be attempted kidnapping, versus something more likely like attempted rape/robbery?

6/16/2011 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about C: Area Task force teams (formerly known as TRU/MSF) assigned to patrol 018 on the weekends.

Answer: C

6/16/2011 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

assign a camera for the daley family and assign those 5 police officers to the englewood district
cpd could also use the 2 cars

6/16/2011 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need TRU and MSF back!

6/16/2011 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some guy's have all the luck! I wish I had a personal trainer. How about that Art?

6/16/2011 10:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm thanked the CPS teachers for the fine job they are doing for our kids after cornholling them out of their 4% raise. Coppers better pucker up for their next contract. More money in pension dues and no raises. Daley was prasied as the great "micro-manager" and look at the mess he left behind.

6/16/2011 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He was wearing blue jeans with blue boxer shorts, and no shirt...."

...an' he lookin' to get his freak, you see.

Whoo!

6/16/2011 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

they are going to invent a way to put a permanent fluorescent mark on the predators so the uninitiated can see them coming and going. Maybe in the shape of concentric circles for ease in aiming...

6/16/2011 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The victim was identified as a female jogger, not as a "white" female jogger. They were only telling half of the story.

6/16/2011 11:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch what happens to the 20 P.O.'s and 2 Sgts that went to the Areas when TRU/MSF was disbanded. Wanna bet where they end up this summer.

6/16/2011 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunatly it's going to rain this weekend, otherwise they might kill each other by Sunday.

6/16/2011 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For Sale: French War rifles....never fired, only dropped once! Make an offer.

6/16/2011 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's safe , it's safe on the lake front , dose flash mobs never bother me & maggie , we got dose 5 police mans making sgt pay to watch us when we go for a walk or i ride my bike

thanks you chombolones for pickn up da tab , mr rahm said if i don't run in 2011 he take care of me & maggie with protection hahahaha + i got 3 good payin part time jobs , my pension alone is 4 X more than the average citizen in chicago makes , maybe dose guys runnin da illegal vendors on 26thst amke more but dey don care cauz dey dont pay no tax to city state or feds
i take good care of dem peeple
thaks chicago , it's safe for me and maggie hahahaha
if it gets to hot close the beach dat helps i never thought of dat 1

6/16/2011 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anyone of you geniuses read the Chicago Tribune editorial in which they outlined their policy on identifying the suspect by race. Then you would know why they did it this time. If the only description of a suspect was "he was black or he was Mexican" then it doesn't help much and thus they leave it out. If the description is much more detailed such as "he was a black male, about 5'10 to 6'00 tall, wearing braids, he had a tatoo on his wrist of a rose, he had a blue shirt and black baggy long style shorts" then it helps and the Tribune will state all of that in the article. Some of you need to be a little bit more fair and balanced.

6/16/2011 01:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This sounds like the kind of women that you want covering your back in a bar fight. You know?

Fends off a 21 y/o, six foot tall, two-hundred pound jackazz!

I'm just sayin'

6/16/2011 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this attack happened at 2pm!

6/16/2011 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From a civilian - why would this be attempted kidnapping, versus something more likely like attempted rape/robbery?

6/16/2011 09:36:00 AM



why would you think you would know what would be 'more likely'?

6/16/2011 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bobbo said...

Even if you put more cops on the streets, there's still a shortage of vehicles for them.

6/16/2011 08:41:00 AM



you're the itch that can't be scratched, aren't you?

6/16/2011 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the definition of a French hero?

The last one to surrender.

6/16/2011 07:54:00 AM



isn't that the first one to surrender?

6/16/2011 03:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure some of you have seen worse. I'm just saying

6/16/2011 06:10:00 AM



went for a ride-a-long?

6/16/2011 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's where all the new construction for boat parking is.

6/16/2011 03:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Bureau of Efficiency said...

Anonymous said...
assign a camera for the daley family and assign those 5 police officers to the englewood district
cpd could also use the 2 cars

6/16/2011 10:00:00 AM

Now THAT should be Step 1 in a plan to make the CPD more efficient. Good idea.

The cars are probably in better shape than most of the beat cars.

Same goes for "company" cars used to bring cops to their cush administrative jobs. Get ALL of them out in the streets - cars and all.

You want raises? Start crackin' heads and cleaning up downtown.

6/16/2011 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
We need TRU and MSF back!

6/16/2011 10:07:00 AM

No, We DON'T. That won't solve the problem. It will only make the districts even more short-handed.

6/16/2011 03:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A few well placed rounds from an armed cyclist might do this shithole city some good! At the very least, 10 million scoville pepper spray should be a cycling staple."

Screw the pepper spray. Use wasp spray. It is toned down nerve agent, results in permanent blindness, and sends an accurate stream 20+ feet. Plus, you can hit the stream with your bic and it makes for a nice improvised flame thrower...

6/16/2011 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I just felt he was like a young boy playing basketball. I don't know."

-- the victim of this attack, just now on Channel 7 News. (Despite the lighting, which showed her only in shadows, I think she was black.)

Oh.

Is that what you call attempted rape/kidnaping by a hulking grown man running around half-naked with his underwear hanging out -- in broad daylight, at 2 PM?

All a big joke. Boys will be boys.

From the victim.

Are we wasting our time here?

6/16/2011 04:37:00 PM  
Blogger Michael said...

Greetings from Montana,This happened to a friend of mine about 20 summers ago. He was riding his expensive mountain bike about 11 at night on the lakefront bike path when 5 urbane youths tried to take his bike. In his jacket pocket he had a Berrette .22 short mouse gun. He shot at the guys then cut out. To this day he never saw anthing in the papers and he doesn't know if he hit anyone.

6/16/2011 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to share a story with you. Thirty years ago I was involved in a legal business that required me to travel to the West and South Sides of Chicago on a regular basis. My co-workers would routinely share their stories with me of so and so getting beaten and others getting robbed as well. After talking with a CPD client at the time, I made a decision that I would immediately arm myself while traveling these areas. I want to point out that the CPD merely hashed out the consequences of what would happen if caught while carrying, nothing more. Having no knowledge of firearms at the time, I went to a local suburban gun store and purchased a revolver, ammo, 2 holsters, IWB and OWB paddle. I must have applied for the FOID beforehand because I don't remember waiting more than the 3 days requirement. I then routinely carried hundreds of times and was never so much as looked at let alone stopped by CPD. I had one close call with a smash and grab to another motorist at the Eisenhower Congress ramp. I believe Illinois is simply lost in the dust when it comes to recognizing the needs of its residents to protect themselves. How can we take seriously an "alert" to people by the lakefront. What are we supposed to do with the alert? We are not able to adequately defend ourselves legally so whom are they trying to bs. Like I said before, the state is lost and you might just need to make some tough decisions before going out and about in Illinois.

6/16/2011 04:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No incidents on the lakefront in Rogers Park.

Thank you to the dedicated and hard working officers in Roger's Park.

Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.

(Citizen who enjoys the Lakefront in Rogers Park)

6/16/2011 05:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why did it take a WHOLE FUCKING WEEK for this to come out to the public?

6/16/2011 06:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Screw the pepper spray. Use wasp spray. It is toned down nerve agent, results in permanent blindness, and sends an accurate stream 20+ feet. Plus, you can hit the stream with your bic and it makes for a nice improvised flame thrower...

6/16/2011 03:47:00 PM



i like the cut of your jib, mister.



chalkie

6/16/2011 07:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of you need to be a little bit more fair and balanced.

6/16/2011 01:08:00 PM




bite.



me.

6/16/2011 07:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Flamethrowers have become a popular option on new vehicles in South Africa. They come with a small amount of fuel loaded to enable the driver to escape a surrounding mob.

It has become a necessity for those too poor or old to emigrate to Australia or Canada.

6/16/2011 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anyone of you geniuses read the Chicago Tribune editorial in which they outlined their policy on identifying the suspect by race. Then you would know why they did it this time. If the only description of a suspect was "he was black or he was Mexican" then it doesn't help much and thus they leave it out. If the description is much more detailed such as "he was a black male, about 5'10 to 6'00 tall, wearing braids, he had a tatoo on his wrist of a rose, he had a blue shirt and black baggy long style shorts" then it helps and the Tribune will state all of that in the article. Some of you need to be a little bit more fair and balanced.

OH, PLEASE...
I hope the above poster doesn't think any reasonable-minded folks are actually swallowing his (and the Fibune's) bullshit. The mainstream media outlets in this city, for years, have never had a problem mentioning the offender's race in those few instances when the offender is WHITE (with or without further identifiers).

Regardless of how detailed the description may be (and we all know the description furnished to the media by police and/or witnesses is usually plenty detailed), the general public most definitely has a legitimate interest in KNOWING that description, even if it's nothing more than sex and race.

By this poster's reasoning, the public does not need to know that the lakefront mob beatdowns have been committed exclusively by male black teens.

At least if the public knows the crimes are being committed exclusively by male black teens, they can choose to avoid areas frequented by male black teens and perhaps reduce their chances of being the next victim.

Typical position of a naive liberal apologist, wracked with white guilt. Nobody here is buying it, nitwit. Even you know better. Just go away.

6/16/2011 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of you need to be a little bit more fair and balanced.

6/16/2011 01:08:00 PM

You are taking the side of the papers who slander cops at every opportunity? Shut the fuck up, you total piece of shit. Why don't you take your family for a nice day at North Avenue beach you piece of fucking shit? Go fuck yourself with a rolled up newspaper.

6/16/2011 08:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Dave in Albany Park said...

How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?

Nobody knows. It's never been done.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_the_Marne

6/16/2011 08:56:00 PM  
Anonymous CrookCountyJustice said...

To once again add a touch of journalism guidelines here, the Tribune (and I used to be a reporter there) is allowed to use race as part of the description when the description is substantive. in this case they have height, weight, build, clothing, etc., so its not just a "black guy in his 20s."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


So..race provides more specificity than sex, but sex can always be used but race can only be used in a "substantive" description.

LOL.

Liberal pc at its finest. Can't run around being truthful about criminals now can we...might make some left wing ideas unpopular.

6/16/2011 09:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bobbo said...

Even if you put more cops on the streets, there's still a shortage of vehicles for them.

6/16/2011 08:41:00 AM



you're the itch that can't be scratched, aren't you?

6/16/2011 03:10:00 PM

hes the itch on my balls that cant be scratched

6/16/2011 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bobbo said...

Even if you put more cops on the streets, there's still a shortage of vehicles for them.

6/16/2011 08:41:00 AM



you're the itch that can't be scratched, aren't you?

6/16/2011 03:10:00 PM

hes the itch on my balls that cant be scratched

6/16/2011 09:43:00 PM



so, why'd you marry him?

6/16/2011 09:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Some of you need to be a little bit more fair and balanced.

6/16/2011 01:08:00 PM

You are taking the side of the papers who slander cops at every opportunity? Shut the fuck up, you total piece of shit. Why don't you take your family for a nice day at North Avenue beach you piece of fucking shit? Go fuck yourself with a rolled up newspaper.

6/16/2011 08:1

Settle down Frances

6/16/2011 09:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need TRU and MSF back!

- signed the pissed off copper taking his 3rd case report for Dom Bat. Awwww patrol missed you

6/16/2011 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I would like to share a story with you. Thirty years ago...I made a decision that I would immediately arm myself..."

That's why the politicians made UUW a felony. They knew they couldn't do anything about the scumbags, so they went after law-abiding citizens, those who have substantial things to lose as the result of a felony conviction.

It made it appear that they were "doing something" about the violence. You see how well that has worked.

These bastards are so out of touch here in Illinois, it's sickening.

6/16/2011 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Use wasp spray. It is toned down nerve agent, results in permanent blindness, and sends an accurate stream 20+ feet. Plus, you can hit the stream with your bic and it makes for a nice improvised flame thrower..."

--6/16/2011 03:47:00 PM

"It is a violation of Federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling."

Ever seen an aerosol can explode?

See you in the burn ward. You can learn Braille in between debridements. That's a fancy word for "screaming while they scrub all your dead skin off with stiff brushes."

Please don't put this McGyver s__t up here.

"Those who say, don't know. Those who know, don't say." There's sometimes a good reason for the latter.

6/16/2011 11:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No incidents on the lakefront in Rogers Park.

Thank you to the dedicated and hard working officers in Roger's Park.

Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.

(Citizen who enjoys the Lakefront in Rogers Park)

6/16/2011 05:48:00 PM


To that, I'll say: No incidents on the lakefront in Rogers Park. YET.

The south and west siders already know how to multiply. Now they are spreading via public trans into YOUR quiet neighborhood. Just wait...

6/16/2011 11:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The south and west siders already know how to multiply. Now they are spreading via public trans into YOUR quiet neighborhood. Just wait..."

--6/16/2011 11:18:00 PM

Rogers Park never WAS a "quiet neighborhood."

Morse Avenue.

Juneway Terrace.

Howard Street.

etc.

It can always get worse, though...is the Heartland Cafe still collecting old chairs and couches and putting them under the "L" tracks to attract loitering?

6/16/2011 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No incidents on the lakefront in Rogers Park.

Thank you to the dedicated and hard working officers in Roger's Park.

Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.

(Citizen who enjoys the Lakefront in Rogers Park)

6/16/2011 05:48:00 PM


To that, I'll say: No incidents on the lakefront in Rogers Park. YET.

The south and west siders already know how to multiply. Now they are spreading via public trans into YOUR quiet neighborhood. Just wait...

6/16/2011 11:18:00 PM

Hey, since you live there, you might want to know you live in Rogers Park, not Roger's park. The area is named after original settler and area developer, Phillip Rogers.

6/17/2011 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Use wasp spray. It is toned down nerve agent, results in permanent blindness, and sends an accurate stream 20+ feet. Plus, you can hit the stream with your bic and it makes for a nice improvised flame thrower..."

--6/16/2011 03:47:00 PM

"It is a violation of Federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling."

Ever seen an aerosol can explode?

See you in the burn ward. You can learn Braille in between debridements. That's a fancy word for "screaming while they scrub all your dead skin off with stiff brushes."

Please don't put this McGyver s__t up here.

"Those who say, don't know. Those who know, don't say." There's sometimes a good reason for the latter.

Lighten up Francis...

6/17/2011 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

French Army Two-Tone Surrender Pants.

Yellow in front...

Brown in back...

6/17/2011 05:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Lighten up Francis..."

--6/17/2011 12:17:00 PM

Burn ward.

6/17/2011 06:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Burn ward.

6/17/2011 06:40:00 PM



Why, June, I thought you loved me....

6/18/2011 03:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Summer is already almost 1/2 over. The first half has been an abysmal failure on behalf of the highly-overpaid CPD upper echelon of Supervisors. Even if the rest of the summer is a success, which it won't be, this summer will go down as a big failure in leadership. Time for pay cuts and BIG changes to CPD management. Failure is no longer an option. Not for those highly inflated salaries.

6/18/2011 04:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"A few well placed rounds from an armed cyclist might do this shithole city some good! At the very least, 10 million scoville pepper spray should be a cycling staple."

Screw the pepper spray. Use wasp spray. It is toned down nerve agent, results in permanent blindness, and sends an accurate stream 20+ feet. Plus, you can hit the stream with your bic and it makes for a nice improvised flame thrower...

6/16/2011 03:47:00 PM

Yeah, it will also get you indicted for Heinous Battery. Go back to writing parking tickets, rookie.

6/18/2011 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Failure is no longer an option. Not for those highly inflated salaries.

6/18/2011 04:30:00 PM


in the political kingdom of crook county, failure is the only option.

6/19/2011 01:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel safer with the Tribune just sticks to the facts of "Somebody did something, somewhere" and leaves it in the general sense.

All these details and accurate notifications of what took place and what to be on the look out for only serve to confuse us stupid Chicago citizens!

Why give an accurate account of the crime and rightly identify the offender since all that can do is help the offender to get caught and help future potential victims to be forewarned and alert!?

Keep is easy and hazy Tribune...

6/20/2011 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dave in Albany Park said...

How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris? Nobody knows. It's never been done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_the_Marne


The slurs are certainly true of modern Frenchmen (with the probable exception of paras and a few other elite units), but that's because war is natural selection in reverse. The best of French manhood died at Eylau, Borodino, Leipzig, Waterloo, Sedan, Vionville and the WWI trenches.

6/24/2011 08:34:00 PM  

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