Hiring Rumor?
Can any verify that the Department is looking at starting 4 classes, 50 per class each month from September onward until the end of the year?
And is Rahm going to count those 200 toward his "1,000" promise even if they don't hit the street until March of next year?
And is Rahm going to count those 200 toward his "1,000" promise even if they don't hit the street until March of next year?
Labels: rumors
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
108 Comments:
And with no staff at the Academy they will be trained by??????????
(just another rumor)
Heard they were going to start promoting again soon....Yeah Right!
They will have to hire sooner or later. A bunch more guys and girls are retiring this year.
The Academy was full of new hires Thursday afternoon doing orientation, and taking drug test. when I was there. Spoke to someone in personell who stated that they were going to be starting the next class soon.
Boy do I sure as hell hope so. Been waiting 5 years.
Since they cancelled some security details and are supposed to save 650k, thats enough for 16 new coppers
Supposedly October...
Hopefully this is true. I've been waiting a long time to test for CPD & now with a low lottery # it seems as if I might be hired within a year or two.
The Supt made that statement at a roll call in the 2nd district
There'll be more retirements than hires. Two hundred is nothing.
Perhaps a Det.s class will follow. Going on 4 years with an average of 6 Det. retiring each month. Nah they'll just promote more Sgt.s & Lts.. 3,000 less Indians but you still need more Chiefs. What a Joke
Anyone know if they are lowering the age requirement? I'm number 6,000 on the lottery list. I believe I'm one of the last on the list because I am only 21 years old. I hope 4 years does not pass and they decide to schedule a new test.
Not a bad start...
200, better than nothing.
Yup.. thats the word.. psych test were conducted last week...
All of us need to keep track of what's going on in the city council...if it's the law, what does McSupe do?
http://progressillinois.com/quick-hits/content/2011/07/07/pis-cheat-sheet-july-city-council-meeting-proposals
Boystown Police Unit - Ald. Tom Tunney (44th Ward) offered up an ordinance that would create a special police unit for the entertainment district on North Halsted Street in Boystown. The unit would be similar to the one that patrols bustling Rush Street. Tunney’s ward constituents say there has been a spike in violence.
That's a big 10-4! And next year, 400!
Yes... it is true, starting in September 50 per month till end of year for 200 total, with another 50 for 8 months of next year, total 400..... power test all this past week...
Sept 16th start date... bare bones training staff...
Even if do new test, they will exhaust all old list... but just had test in November, doubt be another for 2-3 years
This is a pathetic joke!
In 6 months we'll be short by far more than 2 fucking hundred
Anonymous said...
Perhaps a Det.s class will follow. Going on 4 years with an average of 6 Det. retiring each month. Nah they'll just promote more Sgt.s & Lts.. 3,000 less Indians but you still need more Chiefs. What a Joke
7/09/2011 12:31:00 AM
They are at about 120 on the Sgt.'s list from the 2006 test moron. Gfy, we are all waiting.
About a month ago a security guard told me he received his letter with a hiring date in October...Could be true.
With the NATO and G8 lineup next summer, they better get it together soon!
200, better than nothing.
7/09/2011 01:39:00 AM
No, 200 IS nothing because it won't even cover the amount retiring this year.
Anonymous said...
Perhaps a Det.s class will follow. Going on 4 years with an average of 6 Det. retiring each month. Nah they'll just promote more Sgt.s & Lts.. 3,000 less Indians but you still need more Chiefs. What a Joke
7/09/2011 12:31:00 AM
Hey, Dude!
The Sgt's & Lt's have been retiring too.
Anonymous said...
Yup.. thats the word.. psych test were conducted last week...
7/09/2011 02:46:00 AM
Anyone who really wants to be the police should not be applying in Chicago. Go somewhere else where the Democrats are not in charge!
"Since they cancelled some security details and are supposed to save 650k, thats enough for 16 new coppers."
It ain't the money- it is a matter of priorities. We all know the budget is done in July and we had mass retirements in Aug-Sept last year post retro check/contract. If 400 people retired, that's 32 million (assuming average $80,000 salary, a very LOW estimate) in the police budget alone. Recruits are less than $50,000 and the training staff WAS already there & being paid. If one hired the same as retired at our 400 estimate, the city will still have $2 million extra. Plus, we all know people have been retiring for years and the hiring has not matched. Where is all that money???? It was set aside for police in budget, why isn't it used for that? And, why doesn't anyone call out our mayors for that nonsense? 32 million!!! Wasn't that the number reported they were "over" in their budget plans for 2011-2012? Interesting.
It's true,,,,they are going like gangbusters to get a class prepped for August.....the newbies are on a fast track.
Rham and HackyMac are beginning to shit about the manpower needs of next spring.
you have to start somewhere and 200 is better than nothing---- we have some guys in our unit who have 5 years on the job and are at the bottom in seniority---
Anyone who will be 55 by Jun 30 of 2012 who doesn't retire is a fool. Rahm will not extend the healthcare for retirees past that date.
I dont give a fuck if rahm counts them or doesnt just get us some fukn bodies out here
The Supt made that statement at a roll call in the 2nd district
7/09/2011 12:19:00 AM
I'll believe it when I see it.
Yes it is true. I know 3 peoplewhos kids were down there this week testing. Plus I rode by on Thursday & there was a very long line of people waiting to get in. I was told that they are pushing to process them to have 12 classes ina row(4 classes this year & 8 into next year).
On Thursday, they had 85 candidates that never showed up for the power test. Then around 45 failed the simple power test. If they invited 300, that is almost half eliminated in the first round. At hat rate, they will quickly move through the list to find qualified recruits. Hiring 50 a month is great for training but it is not enough to replace vacancies unless they continue to hire every month next year.
cpd needs more supervisors to keep the blue shirts in line
captains - gone through attrition
Remember, even if they do hire, the 2010 Census made it clear that we are down 200,000 citizens, and at least on paper Cement Head had crime figures down with a leaner police department. So they may hire, but the days of the alleged 13,500 police department are history.
200 woopie! we lose twice that a year due to retirement alone plus we're still 2,000 short. Rahm and Daley, both straight up idiots.
Commanders have been told to look at their Agg Bats/Homicides and if its appropriate to adjust the hours to match those times. Looking at I CLEAR -by my count- about half happen after 2AM (ON WEEKENDS ANYWAY). There may be a lot of Tact and Unit openings soon if that happens. We might as well bid to 1st Watch.
Here are facts from H.R. and the testing.
267 were invited
186 showed up
137 passed the power test
49 failed the power test
81 no shows
Rahm said there is a hiring freeze for the year.
A new class of 1635 recruits!!!!!
Oh sorry, thats in New York.
Why do they have money? Perhaps they have people who know how to ask for grant money from the Feds.
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/meet-the-future-officers-1635-strong
Anonymous said...
Anyone know if they are lowering the age requirement? I'm number 6,000 on the lottery list. I believe I'm one of the last on the list because I am only 21 years old. I hope 4 years does not pass and they decide to schedule a new test.
7/09/2011 12:58:00 AM
A piece of advise from someone who's got one foot out the door...Kid, this job is a good starting point for someone your age, i.e. experience, salary, benefits ect., and if it gets you out of your parents home all the better, but if you have half a brain look elsewhere, otherwise expect the least and you won't be so disappointed with the shenanigans that are part of the culture of this department. That being said I leave you with this, two things rise to the top...cream and scum. Look at our leadership, look at our politicians who pull their strings, the choice is yours, good luck and God bless.
Sincerely, a vet in his third decade.
We have 200 retirees this summer so It's just to fill those vacancies.
OT (unless you know that the recent mob attacks are the direct result of not having enough boots on the ground) from the Tribune concerning Darren Hayes charged with the recent attack in boystown: He ... is studying medicine at Prairie State College in Chicago Heights, according to the attorney.
only problem with that is PSC doesn't have a "medicine" program, but I'll betcha he is an honor student in it all the same.
To 7/9 @ 1231.... With the shit this department has gone thru... Yes unfortunately the kids need more supervision.. Having sex and buying alcohol while working??? These are grown "responsible" adults?? The detectives can pick up the pace instead of playing video games all day/night.. Two hour lunches to boot.
Class starting in August, but the numbers are up in the air the last I heard.
200 recruits at the end of the September. That is it for quite a while.
FYI officers are leaving this department left and right for greener pastures. If you don't have clout and wish to stay with CPD your entire career DO NOT ACCEPT A POSITION WITH THIS DEPARTMENT! For cloutless individuals this police department is a dead end job. I am originally from out of state and had no idea that this shitty city and department ran on phone calls. If I would have known that experience, ability, and work ethic were not valued here I would have never taken this job. Don't make the mistake I did.
WRT"Since they cancelled some security details and are supposed to save 650k, thats enough for 16 new coppers"
Yeah but they really didn't save that money right? It just went from one pocket to the other. No-one was fired they were just transferred.
Actually the department will be spending more because they hired retired officers to replace the security details in some instances.
The nest result is there's a few more coppers on the street though.
"Anyone know if they are lowering the age requirement? I'm number 6,000 on the lottery list. I believe I'm one of the last on the list because I am only 21 years old. I hope 4 years does not pass and they decide to schedule a new test.
7/09/2011 12:58:00 AM"
Nobody should walk through those academy doors before their 25th Birthday. That includes you Boots on the ground tattoo festooned Mesopotamia Warriors. Sorry, Maturity still makes a difference.
Hire retiree CPD as Academy Instructors.
No State, County, ot Suburbans. Recruits would be inspired if they hired the right crusty old-timers instead of pencil-necked House Mouse Geek police.
Next academy class to start in September.
They had a bunch of no shows for the power test and another 50 or so failed it.
What a scam! To the tax payers in this great shitty!
I am not a police officer, but let me see if I understand this. The budget is for 13500 officers. You are 3-4000 short. In theory that money is sitting there for salaries. There is an added cost with training 3-4000, but if they were to hire 1500-2000 that would be a wash. I know without the figures this is not exact. Is there something I am missing? Other than the city stealing the balance of the money.
Anyone notice the signs outside of the academy no longer have Timothy J. O'connor on them??? Soon to have a Richard M.???
yeah training staff at the academy that little were actually the working police and the other 3/4 phone call never been the police supercops. the bullshit that comes out of their mouths in class, but the recruits don't have a clue that all the stories they tell are somebody elses.
Someone commented on here not too long ago that the city was simply waiting for some of the Federal Government money to be paid to them for the G8 summit, and that they would use some of it to hire 800 recruits over the next two years. So, whoever posted that comment seems able to verify this rumor as true-or-false.
Anyone who will be 55 by Jun 30 of 2012 who doesn't retire is a fool. Rahm will not extend the healthcare for retirees past that date.
7/09/2011 08:08:00 AM
Since the medical coverage is GONE on 01 Jan 2013, what's the difference?
The un-used portion of the Police Budget (13,500?) goes back into the City General Fund every year.
Is it almost like the Mayor's secret slush fund to help balance the budget (which is NEVER really balanced), or can he can use it for pet projects which are not in any budget?
Anonymous said...
Anyone notice the signs outside of the academy no longer have Timothy J. O'connor on them??? Soon to have a Richard M.???
7/09/2011 02:40:00 PM
Say it ain't so, Joe!
There couldn't be a bigger slap in the face to Chicago police officers than to name a police facility after that police hater!
81 no shows? during a recession? does that sound normal or does that sound like maybe alot of those 81 didn't get the mailed notification? could be a way to control the demographics of those hired! remember the city fucked with copper's kids before with the psych test so I wouldn't put anything past them
A class of 100 Detectives to begin late fall.
Stop the rumors.....
we're looking at a class of 50 recruits in September, 50 in October, 50 in November and 50 in December.
This is two hundred that was promised and/or suggested.
Good Night
G8 and Nato in 2012, what will we do?
FACT: Over 200 CPD members put in to retire in October. Taking advantage of the insurance plan. FACT!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Yup.. thats the word.. psych test were conducted last week...
7/09/2011 02:46:00 AM
Anyone who really wants to be the police should not be applying in Chicago. Go somewhere else where the Democrats are not in charge!
7/09/2011 07:22:00 AM
Where? Wisconsin? Ohio? New Jersey? Gimme a break.
Ald. Tunneys ward only wants dicks to patrol the streets.
I can't believe some old timers are encouraging their kids to take this job!
Mechanics at motor maintenance are making 95k!! How about the fire dept? They have it made!
If you think you're going to be able to do any pro-active police work on this job you are nuts.
Good Luck.
They don't need teachers...it is all gonna all be done through E-Learning
Nobody has the right to tell any of these guys and gals not to take a job w/the CPD!! If you've been here all your career, how do you know it doesn't suck everywhere. I'm on my third department, and tend to see the same bullshit everywhere. If you want to be the police, you can't say, "I only want to be the Naperville or Oak Brook Police, or I only want to be CPD". You gotta test everywhere you can, especially in this economy. CPD is just as good(or bad)dept. as any. I'm just grateful my HS educated ass is here making good money, great benefits and still getting my raises when other PD's are laying off.
know a PO formely assigned to academy who was asked if he would like to be detailed back at academy to work on revising lesson plans. Classes to be just the bare minimum just like suburban recruits, plans to get recruits out of academy in 4 months max.
Nobody has the right to tell any of these guys and gals not to take a job w/the CPD!! If you've been here all your career, how do you know it doesn't suck everywhere. I'm on my third department, and tend to see the same bullshit everywhere. If you want to be the police, you can't say, "I only want to be the Naperville or Oak Brook Police, or I only want to be CPD". You gotta test everywhere you can, especially in this economy. CPD is just as good(or bad)dept. as any. I'm just grateful my HS educated ass is here making good money, great benefits and still getting my raises when other PD's are laying off.
7/09/2011 11:57:00 PM
I believe by "everywhere" you are referring to departments in this SHITTY state. You're like these ghetto shitbirds that believe ghetto conditions persist "everywhere" because that's all they know. I'm not surprised by your view because this entire state sucks the sweat off a dead man's balls. Expand your horizons and look beyond this shithole state where you were born and raised. Those of us who have lived in other areas of the country know better. It is not like this everywhere. CPD offers no chance for advancement without clout. The only people that claim there is a level playing field and that it's all legit are those with the phonecall.
Anonymous said...
81 no shows? during a recession? does that sound normal or does that sound like maybe alot of those 81 didn't get the mailed notification? could be a way to control the demographics of those hired! remember the city fucked with copper's kids before with the psych test so I wouldn't put anything past them
7/09/2011 06:52:00 PM
This is not unusual.
The Dept. typically loses 90% of the original test takers.
Meaning: Only 10% of the original test takers get hired.
The reasons are many:
Did not actually qualify to take the written exam;
Did not really want the job;
Went to other employment;
Cannot pass the background invest.
I believe by "everywhere" you are referring to departments in this SHITTY state. You're like these ghetto shitbirds that believe ghetto conditions persist "everywhere" because that's all they know. I'm not surprised by your view because this entire state sucks the sweat off a dead man's balls. Expand your horizons and look beyond this shithole state where you were born and raised. Those of us who have lived in other areas of the country know better. It is not like this everywhere. CPD offers no chance for advancement without clout. The only people that claim there is a level playing field and that it's all legit are those with the phonecall.
I see I struck a nerve with you and I understand you went and got all excited but my statement was"everywhere you can", be it local burbs, down state or across the country. I'm not advocating this city or state but I was saying I don't agree with coppers telling applicants not to take what's still a good job in a poor economy. Not everyone can or wants to lateral to AZ or test in Vegas or NY but you can't limit yourself either by skipping local tests if you really want to land such a competitive position. Some people just need to see for themselves and who has the right to tell them not to try. What's keeping you? Are you vested? out of shape? A fuck up? All of the above?Why don't you go back and police where ever it is you came from if it's so SHITTY here? I'm not claiming it's all legit but I figured that out pretty early on and decided I could make it work for me an my family as I dont have any delusions of being da real police aspiring to exempt positons, I'm just a 7 yr patrolman. Maybe you're just a malcontent who'd be unhappy anywhere, I don't know, I'm not making arrogant assumptions and ridiculous statements like some ghetto shitbag.
Anonymous said...
Perhaps a Det.s class will follow. Going on 4 years with an average of 6 Det. retiring each month. Nah they'll just promote more Sgt.s & Lts.. 3,000 less Indians but you still need more Chiefs. What a Joke
7/09/2011 12:31:00 AM
They are at about 120 on the Sgt.'s list from the 2006 test moron. Gfy, we are all waiting.
7/09/2011 05:41:00 AM
They're at about 230 on the detective's list from the 2004 test. They haven't promoted a single detective in over 4 years. So yes, we are all waiting. I don't think you needed to call the original poster a moron though. You'll make a great supervisor. You'll fit right in.
A class of 100 Detectives to begin late fall.
7/09/2011 09:01:00 PM
Yeah, we've all been told that before. I'll believe it when I see it.
I believe by "everywhere" you are referring to departments in this SHITTY state. You're like these ghetto shitbirds that believe ghetto conditions persist "everywhere" because that's all they know. I'm not surprised by your view because this entire state sucks the sweat off a dead man's balls. Expand your horizons and look beyond this shithole state where you were born and raised. Those of us who have lived in other areas.....
You need to get out more...idiot. This state is fucked because of this pos city and county running the rest of the state, not the other way around. IL is populated by mostly,right- thinking, conservative people. Uunfortunately we all suffer so that a small population continues to vote and collect
from the govt. And I doubt anybody thinks everywhere is ghetto just because that's all they've ever known. Obviously the dude names two of the more affluent towns in the
state. As for the "shitbirds", they watch enough tv...
You would think that the money they have been saving by not hiring cops could have been put into the underfunded pension.
But why do that when you can steal it and hand it out to family and friends, right Shortshanks? Now Rahm can continue with the theft instead of doing the right thing because he doesn't want cops to be able to eat when they retire.
A class of 100 Detectives to begin late fall.
7/09/2011 09:01:00 PM
Although very welcome, this addition will hardly make a dent.
I have cases I could make arrests on right now, but there is never any time.
I am constantly behind, and I have nightmares about what I haven't been able to get done.
I am constantly taking files home to read.
Triple that number, and maybe I'll be able to get some sleep.
Why would anyone in their right mind want to join the CPD, especially anyone who reads this blog?
Seriously, go become a finance major. Finance PHd's start at $180K., and there is such a shortage it's unbelievable.
Finance isn't as hard as it seems. You just have to keep up and study.
Me, I'm going for that PHd.
Seriously, could someone in the media please get the numbers?
The city has claimed 13,500 sworn since I came on in the mid-eighties.
Newspeople, get the numbers for every year, deduct the retires, add in the hires.
Should not be that difficult to come up with a real number.
And why the f*ck isn't this public information that's readily avaialable?
I was driving and heard the radio announcer say 13,500 and almost rear-ended someone.
WTF? How many years can the numbers stay the same?
Wish I was 55 and could take advantage of the retirement.
cpd needs more supervisors to keep the blue shirts in line
captains - gone through attrition
7/09/2011 09:55:00 AM
Kiss my blue ass!
I don't know if it's like this in this city, but it was in Detroit.
My Dad was DFD, retired at the rank of lt. Once you made rank and had a couple of years, you were expected to retire, to make room for another guy to get the rank.
My Dad retired at 47, still collects a pension at 84.
A couple of his friends stayed longer than was customary, and they were referred to as skags.
BTW, DFD has an unbelievably stong retirees input into the union. They pay dues and they endorse politicians sympathetic to their cause.
The city of Detroit is more broke than Chicago...and yet the retirees have NEVER given up a benefit, they've GAINED them.
Our retirees should really be more proactive, to watch out for themselves, and for those who come after.
To 7/9 @ 1231.... With the shit this department has gone thru... Yes unfortunately the kids need more supervision.. Having sex and buying alcohol while working??? These are grown "responsible" adults?? The detectives can pick up the pace instead of playing video games all day/night.. Two hour lunches to boot.
7/09/2011 12:24:00 PM
STF up if you don't know what you're talking about. I am a det. and cannot remember the last time I went out for lunch.
I bring my lunch and eat at my desk, as do the other dets. in my unit. If I forget my lunch I don't eat, because I don't have the time to run out.
Maybe some dets. do that, but not all, so don't paint us all with the same brush. The det. unit is not 'the days of wine and roses.'
Wow 200 big friggin deal?
Can someone who went through the OLD academy (before the T.J. O'Connor), forget where they had it, enlighten us as to what it was like?
Is there anyone still alive who went through there? LOL. I think it was the building on Hill St. Blues---geez, even THAT was a million years ago.
Would just like to hear.
All of you hairgels coming on better pay attention to the 'oldsters' in the districts.
I came on in the mid-eighties, and feel like I was trained by the guys who were trained by guys who WERE the real police.
That's what this dept. is missing--there are no CHARACTERS anymore. The drunk, bulbous-red-nosed captains who held roll calls, while making sure they touched your breast during inspection (I'm female), the old-time Italians, the token Jewish guy...nobody bragged about what they'd done in their careers. You just KNEW they were the real deal.
I miss them all when I look around this dept. now. I consider myself lucky to have learned from them.
Of course, this was way before cameras were everywhere.
It was a different time. But people respected the police then--and if you showed up at a call with an old-timer, it was rare you had to make a repeat appearance.
Those guys are gone now, many of them dead...I can still see their faces, and hear their laughter...they were larger than life. So sad.
So the guys and gals who are in their fifties now, were trained by that breed...pay attention to them. You'll be glad you did.
When you get to the districts and see the old-timers, just stop to think of all they've seen and know. They probably know more than you ever will.
Since the medical coverage is GONE on 01 Jan 2013, what's the difference?
7/09/2011 05:07:00 PM
You know, I have heard that, but don't know what it means. Does that mean retirees will no longer have health care?
Can someone who knows please advise?
I'll be on the shit-end of the stick it seems--2.5 years to go.
That's okay, I shouldn't get too sick from eating cat food and not being able to afford heat.
Anyone notice the signs outside of the academy no longer have Timothy J. O'connor on them??? Soon to have a Richard M.???
7/09/2011 02:40:00 PM
One last F/U to us?
Anonymous said...
know a PO formely assigned to academy who was asked if he would like to be detailed back at academy to work on revising lesson plans. Classes to be just the bare minimum just like suburban recruits, plans to get recruits out of academy in 4 months max.
7/10/2011 12:40:00 AM
What are you smoking? The current time to train recruits is 7 months. Even after 7 months. lodding is afraid to let them go. The Suburban recruits have a different program that does not change. Every possible class is given to CPD recruits and after twenty weeks, they had enough. In the past they were able to graduate recruits after 22 weeks. 4 months is a fantasy.
Hey, 200 is nothing when you have 60 people working on third watch in 005 and 6 working on midnights in 005. Does anyone care about the safety of the officers on midnights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess not since commander big head and his lap dog are running the 005 district into the ground and using the extra bodies they got as some type of special unit!!!!!!!!!!!! What a joke!!!!! 200 is nothing!!!!!!! Truth check the fucking sheets Supnintendo!
CPD offers no chance for advancement without clout. The only people that claim there is a level playing field and that it's all legit are those with the phonecall.
7/10/2011 03:54:00 AM
Try getting promoted in a smaller department MORON or even hired. Dude, its the same shit.
CPD offers no chance for advancement without clout. The only people that claim there is a level playing field and that it's all legit are those with the phonecall.
really???? why dont you take a test. Then score good. Last I checked if you test well you will be made. Yes, 15 0r 20 people will be merit from a class of 100 or so but 85 people make it from scores. Enough with the conspiracy theory. Yes, clout on this department is huge but so is getting a high test score for promotion. If you get a good score you cant be touched... just wait for your number and you will be called. I made sgt and Lt all by scoring well on the test. What happened with you?? didnt study enough, didnt sign up for both classes, did comprehend well enough? What ever the case, dont say you cant go anywhere without clout because you can and will, you just have to have some type of a brain in your head...which clearly you dont. Instead of taking action you just want to sit around and bitch about it all day and claim that the entire system is bogus(I agree that a part of it is) but blame yourself for not scoring well... and no, they dont give out copys of the test to "the chosen few in the club" as people love to say because so and so did so good on a test. This department is full of whiners and complainers. Take inititive and GET YOURSELF PROMOTED. Things dont just come to you, you have to work for them. Way too many people think that because they were on a tac team for 7 years and have 11 years on the job they should be handed a spot or should get that merit spot... bullshit, score good on the test and study. merit spots once in a blue moon go to the guys that deserve them but they make up for a small percentage of the spots in a class so thats not an excuse... Is not 100 percent merit on lists.. the majority of spots are test scores... fuckin crybaby
The old Academy was located at 720 W. O'Brien. I was in one of the 1973 classes, and we had Sergio Oliva (Mr. Olympia and Mr. Universe among other body building titles) as our P.T. instructor. All we did during P.T time was watch Sergio work out and lift weights. Didn't really learn much in the Academy, learned everything on the streets from the old guys - the keep your mouth shut kid, and do what I tell you to do routine. Guess what, it worked. Ahhhh the memories.
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Can someone who went through the OLD academy (before the T.J. O'Connor), forget where they had it, enlighten us as to what it was like?
Is there anyone still alive who went through there? LOL. I think it was the building on Hill St. Blues---geez, even THAT was a million years ago.
Would just like to hear.
FYI officers are leaving this department left and right for greener pastures. If you don't have clout and wish to stay with CPD your entire career DO NOT ACCEPT A POSITION WITH THIS DEPARTMENT! For cloutless individuals this police department is a dead end job. I am originally from out of state and had no idea that this shitty city and department ran on phone calls. If I would have known that experience, ability, and work ethic were not valued here I would have never taken this job. Don't make the mistake I did.
Wow, I couldn't agree with you more. Now with the two tiered pension plan in place for new hires, you would really have to be a fool to accept the job without clout.
I am one of the 150 or so people to took the first 1/2 of the psych eval on friday. When we left, we were given dates to meet with a head shrinker.
We have done the P.O.W.E.R, drug screening, finger printing and background already.
I assume they plan on hiring someone?
Anonymous said...
Since the medical coverage is GONE on 01 Jan 2013, what's the difference?
7/09/2011 05:07:00 PM
You know, I have heard that, but don't know what it means. Does that mean retirees will no longer have health care?
Can someone who knows please advise?
I'll be on the shit-end of the stick it seems--2.5 years to go.
That's okay, I shouldn't get too sick from eating cat food and not being able to afford heat.
7/10/2011 09:53:00 AM
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I have heard many different viewpoints on this. From lawyers I have talked to, they say that the language indeed points to no health care after that date.
Union people in all the police unions say that is not the intent of the court order; however, intent means nothing. What matters is what the language says. The union people also say past precedence has a lot to do with the health care continuing. In these days, I don't think the courts will support us there. Again, what does the language of the court order say?
Let's hear from a lawyer out there. We have more than a few on this department, in all ranks.
We need a HUGE influx like maybe 400 a month over 6 months minimum, we are so short handed everywhere and it seems rahmbo will be cutting anywhere he can!
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Since the medical coverage is GONE on 01 Jan 2013, what's the difference?
7/09/2011 05:07:00 PM
You know, I have heard that, but don't know what it means. Does that mean retirees will no longer have health care?
Can someone who knows please advise?
I'll be on the shit-end of the stick it seems--2.5 years to go.
That's okay, I shouldn't get too sick from eating cat food and not being able to afford heat.
7/10/2011 09:53:00 AM
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I have heard many different viewpoints on this. From lawyers I have talked to, they say that the language indeed points to no health care after that date.
Union people in all the police unions say that is not the intent of the court order; however, intent means nothing. What matters is what the language says. The union people also say past precedence has a lot to do with the health care continuing. In these days, I don't think the courts will support us there. Again, what does the language of the court order say?
Let's hear from a lawyer out there. We have more than a few on this department, in all ranks.
7/10/2011 08:24:00 PM
At the last two retirement seminars I attended (before pulling the pin last Fall), we were told the medical plan, as we know it, would go away on 01 Jan 2013. AND it would also go away for retirees.
They said there would 'most probably' be some kind of medical coverage, but it would be a lot different and whatever was offered to active members is what retired members would also be offered.
Basically, I'll have eighteen months in health care limbo until I have coverage at 60. I suppose I'll be paying around five hundred a month, single, unmarried, until I can hit medicare, and who knows what medicare will look like by then?
really???? why dont you take a test. Then score good. Last I checked if you test well you will be made. Yes, 15 0r 20 people will be merit from a class of 100 or so but 85 people make it from scores. Enough with the conspiracy theory. Yes, clout on this department is huge but so is getting a high test score for promotion. If you get a good score you cant be touched... just wait for your number and you will be called. I made sgt and Lt all by scoring well on the test. What happened with you?? didnt study enough, didnt sign up for both classes, did comprehend well enough? What ever the case, dont say you cant go anywhere without clout because you can and will, you just have to have some type of a brain in your head...which clearly you dont. Instead of taking action you just want to sit around and bitch about it all day and claim that the entire system is bogus(I agree that a part of it is) but blame yourself for not scoring well... and no, they dont give out copys of the test to "the chosen few in the club" as people love to say because so and so did so good on a test. This department is full of whiners and complainers. Take inititive and GET YOURSELF PROMOTED. Things dont just come to you, you have to work for them. Way too many people think that because they were on a tac team for 7 years and have 11 years on the job they should be handed a spot or should get that merit spot... bullshit, score good on the test and study. merit spots once in a blue moon go to the guys that deserve them but they make up for a small percentage of the spots in a class so thats not an excuse... Is not 100 percent merit on lists.. the majority of spots are test scores... fuckin crybaby
7/10/2011 12:27:00 PM
You're a lieutenant that scored well on the promotional exams? I find that difficult to believe after reading that diatribe littered with grammatical, spelling, and punctuation errors. I'd run out of red ink trying to correct the above paragraph. By the way, for anyone on this job to take a test, they actually have to give one. We're going on seven years since the last detective's exam and six years since the last sergeant's exam. My guess is that you barely graduated high school. If you actually are a member of the CPD you got on through clout or the sheer luck of slipping through the cracks. You have about two years on the job and are still delusional about the entire promotional process on the CPD. Either that or you're a double merit clout baby that shouldn't even be the police let alone a lieutenant. One day you'll hopefully realize what an ignorant and misguided soul you are. Signed: A blue shirt with twelve years on the job that's still sitting on the current seven year old detective's list with a number under 30. (Because it's all legit!)
Ok, lets all stop belly aching about not getting promoted or clout. IT'S PAR FOR THE COURSE GENTLEMEN AND LADIES!!. We knew that when we took this job, that's the Chicago way. And if you thought different then here's your slap in the face.
Everyone needs to get their heads out of their ass and fight for whats is ours. Call out the bullshit IOD amd Medical abusiers who have brought us to this point. Rahm is only going to do what we let him do. Hold the fire to our unions feet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's what we pay fucking union dues every check for, not to get fucking screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As much as things may suck for you guys...there's a reason that college kids and not so young college grads are trying to be the police. If you really think your salary and benefits suck, try switching gigs with some non-union, degree holding average joes and you may need to be admitted to an insane asylum. I got my master's, I'm a vet, still young and fresh in the face...and guys who aint did half of what I have are set because they applied and got called back and finished the academy. I'm not hating on those guys. Good for them..but nobody wants to hear your whining cuz outside of wearing a badge too many of these guys would be making peanuts for a living.
12:27 Are you shittin me? Do you have any idea what you are talking about? If you are a Lt. then no way you got the score legitimately. Merit promotions are 30% for sgt and lt, 20% for detective. Which means if you promote 100 sgts/lts, 30 will meritorious. If you make 100 dets., 20 will be meritorious. Sometimes they pick a number that is not perfectly divisible and round up, 21 meritorious in a class of 84 detectives. How you can be a boss and think the number is only 10 or 15 shows we are led by idiots. Are the answers given out, maybe, maybe not. Are the questions given out to some of the chosen, absolutely.Not hard to answer the questions you know are going to be on the test. Spare us your sanctimonious bullshit.
CPD offers no chance for advancement without clout. The only people that claim there is a level playing field and that it's all legit are those with the phonecall.
really???? why dont you take a test. Then score good. Last I checked if you test well you will be made. Yes, 15 0r 20 people will be merit from a class of 100 or so but 85 people make it from scores. Enough with the conspiracy theory. Yes, clout on this department is huge but so is getting a high test score for promotion. If you get a good score you cant be touched... just wait for your number and you will be called. I made sgt and Lt all by scoring well on the test. What happened with you?? didnt study enough, didnt sign up for both classes, did comprehend well enough? What ever the case, dont say you cant go anywhere without clout because you can and will, you just have to have some type of a brain in your head...which clearly you dont. Instead of taking action you just want to sit around and bitch about it all day and claim that the entire system is bogus(I agree that a part of it is) but blame yourself for not scoring well... and no, they dont give out copys of the test to "the chosen few in the club" as people love to say because so and so did so good on a test. This department is full of whiners and complainers. Take inititive and GET YOURSELF PROMOTED. Things dont just come to you, you have to work for them. Way too many people think that because they were on a tac team for 7 years and have 11 years on the job they should be handed a spot or should get that merit spot... bullshit, score good on the test and study. merit spots once in a blue moon go to the guys that deserve them but they make up for a small percentage of the spots in a class so thats not an excuse... Is not 100 percent merit on lists.. the majority of spots are test scores... fuckin crybaby
7/10/2011 12:27:00 PM
HAHAHA! Next you're gonna tell me that if I just apply myself and continue to be aggressive out there I will have a shot at narcotics, intelligence, mounted, or marine unit! HA! Just another douche with clout claiming, "It's all legit!" BWAHAHAHA!
Sept 16th start date... bare bones training staff...
The academy and training staff are not the places to cut costs. We need to ensure that new recruits have everything they need to survive and do an outstanding job out there.
They don't need teachers...it is all gonna all be done through E-Learning
That's REALLY F_ _ _ _ _ - UP. E Learing will only work if the assholes that they meet on the street are VIRTUAL assholes.
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