Number Games
Now we understand where Rahm is getting half the numbers he keeps claiming are "redeployed" to the streets:
- ....interesting development that was discussed at 35th street. Seems like Chief of Patrol Eugene Williams has been ordered to cut all district front office staff down to the bare minimum of two. There will be no more PO's used as time keepers once the system is automated come April 2012.
Combined with this:
- ...in our district we have sworn full duty sec'y, assistant sec'y, timekeeper, review bid,and review relief guy (has same rdo as review guy-doesnt help- and sometimes we have 10 crimes reported in a day) plus a full duty sworn crossing guard supervisor (for 6 guards) and altho the watch has to fill 4 crossings (which lost guards) the full duty sworn officer does NOT do crossings..
You should see how many people are still working behind the desk in the old 019 District. With supervisors, there must have been at least 7-8 people trying hard to look busy. Same with 23 or shall I say the new 019, at least 4 P.O.'s sitting behind the desk and the place was quiet as a graveyard. Ridiculous how many people are still hidden in inside spots!
Evidently, we just keep cutting the same spots over and over and when no one is looking, fill them up again. Then the Department "cuts" the spots and Rahm gets to count the same two or three people in every district three or four times each.
We understand why this is done because for a district to run smoothly, you actually need a few inside people, but some places are beyond ridiculous.
We understand why this is done because for a district to run smoothly, you actually need a few inside people, but some places are beyond ridiculous.
Labels: from the comments, silly people
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
47 Comments:
nothin's gonna happen. this topic has been beaten to death. how long ago was it when they said no watch secretary? we have 2! desk officers? at least 6! station supervisor? we still have a desk sgt and lt as w/c.things gonna change for sure. NEVER PLEASE! lol
In my unit they just put them down on the A&A's with a beat number and a car, but they never actually leave the building. Kudos to everyone pulling off this scam. Always stay one step ahead of the game.
I can't speak for every watch, but I know the New 019 2nd watch guys has Desk guys from both sides working on sheets and learning the mechanics how each other did things and trying to come to a happy medium. Dickhead, Rahm forced everyone together without allowing for PO's to bid out before the move... Hence we are asshole to elbow with the next guy. My first day their we had so many PO's many cars were riding 10-4 So it does not surprise me there doubling up on the desk. It's a cluster fuck in the D unit too!
Well . . . They have at least 6 or 7 street inspectors/Captains.
They should go out and earn their $130,000+ a year and earn their pay.
New 021 on 3rd watch desk is loaded with at least 15 people. All bragging on how they use to do work. All they do is eat and complain and get upset when u ask them a question. Another thing I thought there was no more watch secretary. Go on the street.
You should've seen 020 dist desk crew when capt Florenza was running the show. She had a bunch of 4 yr wonders on her desk, including one goofball that comes in to restock the w/c fridge on his rdos! The FEW times that the non bid desk cronies work a car they always manage to put themselves on a traffic car or the park car- both very cushy spots. Must be nice! OT - now that it is legal to record everything, somebody needs to start recording that bipolar ranting nut that calls herself a commander. She needs to see what an unprofessional lunatic she really is while she yells and demeans her officers during roll call. Would love to see that on youtube! I wouldn't trust her to run an ant farm, let alone a police district.
speaking of the "new 019" how about all the people in the commanders office and the caps office. There's so many people in the caps office that their office is twice the size of the tact office. And the commanders people, holy crap. There's gotta be 10 people minimum hiding up there. Minimum. What do they do??? We make the same amount of money as them. What do they do to earn the same check as us. It's sickening.
I suggest some of the inside police officers cover the school crossing so the beat/rapids are left up and available for assignments/patrol.
Put all po's on the street. Hire back retirees on the desk.
009 has got quite a few sworn officers hidden up in the commanders Admin office. In fact there's so many that they can split shifts and often simply forget to come to work.
There's a sworn P.O. as a timekeeper in addition to the civilian one and a sworn crossing guard supervisor and a sworn Compstat number generator girl etc.
Come on Dave you're paranoid about everything else and this is right under your nose.
I have met the enemy and he is us.
Heard the inside dist. sgts are gone also
The area teams will be next , a few hundred more redeployed to districts
In our district, the XO has a secretary.
I will bet (hint,hint) you can't guess which district it is.
17th district 2nd and 3rd watch hide a desk person on a car that does not ever leave the station! on days we could use the real help of another car but I'm almost out of this shit hole.
You should see how many people are still working behind the desk in the old 019 District. With supervisors, there must have been at least 7-8 people trying hard to look busy.
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Get your facts straight dumb ass. Since the changeover last Sunday, There has been only 2 bid spot POs working the desk, one for bonding and one for walk-ins, with 1 supervisor, period. That is what downtown wanted and what they got. Know what you're talking about before you put it on the blog, you desk person wannabe. LOL
Been goin on forever.
Back in the day, before CAPS, we had S.C.I.P. Teams, (Street Crime Impact Program). These were guys in uniform riding unmarked cars, that basically operated each day at the DC's desire.
Occasionally, all the SCIP Teams in an area would report to one district to put a concentrated effort against larger gang problems that existed in an effort to "obliterate" them. Funny thing though... Each of the Area's SCIP Teams would return to their districts with a complete roster of the persons arrested in the 'sweep' and the total number of arrests would get claimed FIVE TIMES!
If there were 20 arrests made, FIVE DIFFERENT SCIP Teams EACH took credit for 20 arrests (or 100 arrests).
If 4 guns were recovered, FIVE SCIP Teams showed a recovery of 4 guns EACH (or 20 guns recovered). Well, you get the picture. I'm sure this practice hasn't totally ended. AND, it was coming from higher up, this multiple counting of activity.
Any wonder why the FBI refuses to count Chicago's crime statistics in their national crime database?
It's called The Chicago Way/Math!
You should come to 003. I've never seen so many people working inside in my life. Especially for a busy district. How can you honestly be happy with your life as a police officer doing office work all day, knowing damn well you are fully fine to perform street work?
You should've seen 020 dist desk crew when capt Florenza was running the show. She had a bunch of 4 yr wonders on her desk, including one goofball that comes in to restock the w/c fridge on his rdos! The FEW times that the non bid desk cronies work a car they always manage to put themselves on a traffic car or the park car- both very cushy spots. Must be nice! OT - now that it is legal to record everything, somebody needs to start recording that bipolar ranting nut that calls herself a commander. She needs to see what an unprofessional lunatic she really is while she yells and demeans her officers during roll call. Would love to see that on youtube! I wouldn't trust her to run an ant farm, let alone a police district.
3/09/2012 01:37:00 AM
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Man, are you going to get a rude awakening if you try to record private conversation. You need to read up on what that recording law really says.
inside spots should be reserved for working coppers that have say 20-25+ years on that aren't as fast or strong as they used to be. have been beat up and dragged and spit on and mother fucked for a long career and need a place to slow down a little bit. instead, inside spots are used for heavy coppers with juice or pretty girls that the wc wants to watch walk back and fourth from his office. some of these inside people never see the street, are and will never be "the police" but get the same check as me and the rest of the guys on the front lines our whole career.
I just wish the media would go over to the Belmont and Western and take a look at how many inside people are still working there 24hrs a day. It's business as usual and no extra bodies have been added to the street like Rahm and GMAC said on the news. The only difference is the coppers that worked the street every day already now have lockers in the old 023. same utility bills same manpower inside at the old 019. They now use the call sign 019 west on the air.
obviously this officer is from 019 or 023, SHUT UP YOU MUSH! Unless you wish more things to change for the worse.
9 is loaded with office police
commanders in every district hid
officers from jfled and plan on doing the same with New York Gmac
Check out the park , foot , and other phony street assignments
caps officers , what a joke
6 hour day tops
You should see the third watch desk crew and lockup in 25. One comes in late and the others leave early. Complain about everything.
Dancers can only count to eight.
..and five, six, seven, eight..
See! Then it's back to one.
Put all po's on the street. Hire back retirees on the desk.
3/09/2012 03:01:00 AM
You still have cadets ? Train them put them on the desk. It will be 3 to 5 years before they are hired as PO's
Hey speaking of numbers and games, when are we getting our sell back days?
The new 019 to lose 20 Sgt's 4th period.
Downtown is scrambling.... Be ready guys and girls it's coming, make your calls now while there is time.
6th period 019 will lose 75 Officers, 25 from each watch placing them as crime see's fit. What a mess this is turning into.
So right after NATO they want to keep jacking us around?
Excellent management again.
Bid spots are safe it's the management people combined now on the watches, there over loaded, soon there will be elbow room once again.
I've got so many contact cards to enter into the system that I need to work my rdo's to accomplish this important task. I can't leave our building. ;)
Rahm, why does the commander of 019 aka 023 need over a dozen front office people?
Seriously this is good for moral.
Stop hiding and come out and play, you knew what the job was when you signed up, your no better then us and in this gender free district all rules apply missy!
Anonymous said...
I can't speak for every watch, but I know the New 019 2nd watch guys has Desk guys from both sides working on sheets and learning the mechanics how each other did things and trying to come to a happy medium. Dickhead, Rahm forced everyone together without allowing for PO's to bid out before the move... Hence we are asshole to elbow with the next guy. My first day their we had so many PO's many cars were riding 10-4 So it does not surprise me there doubling up on the desk. It's a cluster fuck in the D unit too!
3/09/2012 12:19:00 AM
Funny how the actual OFFICERS who work in these "consolidated" districts all tell the same story of clusterfucks, not enough cars to put the bodies, people going home because they're ain't nowhere to put them, etc.
Yet, for some reason, all the gold pricks stood up at the microphone at the last CumStain meeting and told McShithead how everything was going so "smoothly" with minimal "bumps".
I guess the view looks different when you're busy sucking on the asshole of a jersey punk to keep your pathetic job.
Its the new version of "Ghost Payrolling." Take a look at some areas that should have lost their Commanders, support staff as of Jan 8th. Guess What? THEY STILL THERE!!!
So on paper, you eliminated the spot, but they are still there getting paid? WTF!
20 years ago I loved this job and now it is an embarrassment to all LEAs
One should see all the insiders in the 015th district. I swear there are ten people on the desk each watch of the day watching tv or laughing it up while us stooges are on the street killing ourselves for nothing.
Anonymous said...
I have met the enemy and he is us.
3/09/2012 05:13:00 AM
I absolutely second that. I've seen the enemy and he wears blue. When are we going to learn!!!
I know that these ignorant brothes and sisters don't realize it, but they undermine the whole sistem by giving the higher ups ammunition to further decimate our ranks.
Funny how this works, cause we on this blog questioned the size, and need of Daley's body guard staff.
Today, im downtown, and I see a marked car sitting, and the copper is standing in front of the Bank of America. Next thing I see is a bunch of Black vehicles pull up and people jump out I thought Obama was in town. To my suprise it was Rhambo! Geez there must have been 20 people with him!
While nobody was looking did Rhambo increase the size of that detail?
And you bitched about 35th street PO's. Fuck You!
Anonymous said...
You should come to 003. I've never seen so many people working inside in my life. Especially for a busy district. How can you honestly be happy with your life as a police officer doing office work all day, knowing damn well you are fully fine to perform street work?
3/09/2012 09:00:00 AM
Well on 2nd watch the watch sec is afraid of her own shadow! She knows if she works the street she will get her ass kicked for having a big mouth. Her partner should be in the area 2 womens lockup!!! The former wife of B. Jones former 007th dist now an inmate!! I can't wate for these to loud mouth shit bags to hit the street!
Meant WUI. Writing while intoxicated.
Today, im downtown, and I see a marked car sitting, and the copper is standing in front of the Bank of America. Next thing I see is a bunch of Black vehicles pull up and people jump out I thought Obama was in town. To my suprise it was Rhambo! Geez there must have been 20 people with him!
While nobody was looking did Rhambo increase the size of that detail?
3/09/2012 04:08:00 PM
maybe he was robbing the bank..... under a cloak of authority.
If I needed to criticize the dept and get some info on the ins and outs of our business I would look on this blog....loose lips sink ships,a wise man knows when to keep his or her mouth shut....a wise man keeps his words few,indeed we all make many mistakes for if we could control our tongues we would be perfect and could also control ourselves in many ways,we can make a large horse go wherever we want by means of a small bit in its mouth,and a small rudder makes a huge ship turn whereever the pilot chooses even though the winds are strong!A tiny spark can set a great forest on fire and the tongue is a flame of fire!
The merge between old 019 and 023 has happened, and it will probably take a month to get the merge "under control". STOP bitching about who got what or who is where. The new 019 is now the largest District in the city. There are about 400 officers, and about 20 civilians. When we do vehicle inspection, you have tons of cars and equipment to inspect. Eventually, as we always do, we will adjust to this change. Old 023 has to adopt to the influx of more officers (it used to be very quiet in the building), and everyone that came from old 019 has to adopt to the new location (driving to/from, finding their way around the building). Just give it a few months, and we will be back to a "big happy family". However, everyone should STOP pointing fingers, and second guessing what other officers are doing...PEOPLE ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO COPE WITH THIS CHANGE, WHICH WAS BROUGHT UPON US BY OUTSIDERS.
lots of dollies on ghost cars...it s all legit. right.
location (driving to/from, finding their way around the building). Just give it a few months, and we will be back to a "big happy family". However, everyone should STOP pointing fingers, and second guessing what other officers are doing...PEOPLE ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO COPE WITH THIS CHANGE, WHICH WAS BROUGHT UPON US BY OUTSIDERS.
3/10/2012 04:09:00 PM
Thank you! Wise words that we should all live by. Don't let them tear us further apart with all this back fighting.
What gives with the mayors house detail? Heard a PO was kicked off for allowing a citizen to approach the mayors house without permission. Now they can't fill the spot, because nobody wants it.
Can we please rid the department of the useless position of Tac secretary??????
Anonymous said...
The merge between old 019 and 023 has happened, and it will probably take a month to get the merge "under control". STOP bitching about who got what or who is where. The new 019 is now the largest District in the city. There are about 400 officers, and about 20 civilians. When we do vehicle inspection, you have tons of cars and equipment to inspect. Eventually, as we always do, we will adjust to this change. Old 023 has to adopt to the influx of more officers (it used to be very quiet in the building), and everyone that came from old 019 has to adopt to the new location (driving to/from, finding their way around the building). Just give it a few months, and we will be back to a "big happy family". However, everyone should STOP pointing fingers, and second guessing what other officers are doing...PEOPLE ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO COPE WITH THIS CHANGE, WHICH WAS BROUGHT UPON US BY OUTSIDERS.
3/10/2012 04:09:00 PM
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Very well put, Sir.
I'd like to add to your statement; I've watched the desk crew in the old 023. Yes, sometimes there is a lull at the desk, but for the most part they work more than anyone of us that's on the street.
Do you doubt it? Try working the desk for just one period. You'll be begging to get back in a beat car.
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