Tribune Takes Notice
But Chicago is two cities.
The violent city is one that visitors — just like residents of safe Chicago — are unlikely to visit. Last weekend most of the violence, as usual, occurred there.
The stricken neighborhoods, on the South and West sides, happen to be mostly black and Latino; their ethnicity is far less relevant than the fact that in those neighborhoods, jobs are scarce, gangs are seductive and common, and poverty, entrenched through generations, is as pervasive as the grief wrought by the violence.
What scares many people outside the chronically afflicted neighborhoods is that last weekend's violence extended into picture-postcard Chicago.
Evidently, she hasn't been paying attention that past few years. We couldn't make heads or tails of her entire article.
Carlos Sadovi writes a play-by-play of the set-up to steal an iPhone:
- Someone in the group began yelling at the girl, causing her to walk away, then began hitting another teen in the group, the man said Wednesday.
"This was right next to my friend, so I put my arm over her to make sure she wouldn't get hit," said the man, who asked not to be identified out of concern for his safety.The man's wife stood up to get away from the group but left her iPhone on the seat. One of the teens snatched it up and said, "I'll take this." The man said he told the teen to give the phone back, but the teen ran for the door and the man lunged toward him.
"Then I got swarmed by the whole group," said the man. "They were just pounding me. I was just trying to protect my head as much as I could, I knew there was nothing I could do about it. I was stuck. They did a number on me."
Kass does a column, writing about the doctor from Northwestern :
The doctor has a name, but I'm not going to give it to you. He's the victim of a crime and asked that his name not be used, and we're going to keep it that way.
But he did want to tell you his story, because something is happening in Streeterville, the quiet downtown neighborhood of urban professionals who must have once believed that wealth and geography could insulate them from things.
There were similar attacks in Streeterville last year. News organizations at first called them "flash mobs," but that made the police angry. These young people didn't mob up to dance. They mobbed up to hit people.
And, in at least two separate incidents last weekend, the one involving the doctor and another in which a Michigan man's jaw was broken, robbery was not the motive.
They didn't rob them. They beat them for fun.
Kass applies feather-lite touches and dances around the subject, never quite coming into contact with it, but he's close with that last line.
- They beat them for fun.
These are the broken, and quite frankly, we don't see a fix that doesn't involve putting thousands of them in prison and hundreds in the ground. Our opinion of course, but we're the ones on the front lines seeing it each and every day.
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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"These are the broken, and quite frankly, we don't see a fix that doesn't involve putting thousands of them in prison and hundreds in the ground. Our opinion of course, but we're the ones on the front lines seeing it each and every day."
In other words, death by natural causes.
Lead poisoning.
I am a life long citizen of the City of Chicago. I played middle linebacker and boxed in high school. I am still in pretty good shape for an older guy. I have stopped walking the lakefront and downtown for fear of getting beat up by the roving bands of "disenfranchised youth." It's a lose/lose proposition. Just try and defend yourself in one of these attacks and you'll be labeled by the media as Chicago's answer to Bernie Goetz. I'm not even talking about carrying a handgun/knife/screwdriver, I'm talking about throwing a punch in self defense. The CCSA will file charges against you to appease the "community." Poor junior's mom will be on tv looking into the camera and saying "My son was just minding his own business with his friends when he was punched." From this citizen's perspective,the CPD is undermanned and over extended. Please stay safe.
Rahm can't shut the Redline down fast enough!
the lib-tards got what they want,schmich got what she wanted,so did the yuppies.i myself have not been downtown or on the red-line in almost 20 years.i can only imagine how out of control it's become.
You can no longer coverup or deny that the majority of Chicago unsafe!
People see it, hear about it and experience it.
Once the perception is out there, that Chicago is unsafe, people will completely avoid this city. Tourism, conventions, those in pursuit of leisure will take their money elsewhere and the downward spiral will worsen, until even those who must venture downtown, will come and go as fast as possible.
This its not a joke and is really a tragedy!
I like to think of it as Fight Club.
Only it's not a secret anymore and it's a lot easier to recruit people to join the club, just beat on them and their in.
Whitey gets beat again by fat albert and the gang. Call it like it is a hate crime. These ghetto dogs are looking to beat rich white people. If this was reversed it would be on national news. It used to be called wilding, now its' flash mobs but it's still a hate crime. These pukes are cowards 10 jumping on 1, can't wait for them to jump the wrong person who's packing and opens up on them and raises garrys numbers even higher. They aren't flash mobs they are pure racist haters jealous of whitey living the good life, while they swelter in the cockroach infested ghetto. You reap what you sow, they should be beating their ghetto dog parents who are responsible for bringing them into the world.
Sucks to be just another ghetto rat, doesn't it!
I have posted here about how I have yet to see the marauding youths, and about how I think it's overblown. I'm not sure SCC has put them all up, but whatever.
Well, I'm changing my tune. I have begun to observe some of these groups personally, and obviously the attacks of last weekend were no exaggeration.
So here's my question: If the public were to support more police and less hocus pocus about crystal balls and computer modeling, and cameras, and let's say we got a thousand or more new police on board in the next few years, you could flood these areas and take back our front yard, couldn't you? Like you did with NATO?
If you had the resources, you could do a broken windows policy in the front yard, right? Teen throws a bottle at the diners at Ralph Lauren, teen goes to jail. Teen jumps turnstile, teen goes to jail and so does everybody else who tries to defeat the arrest because 30 of you guys jump out of a van or two and swarm these guys.
You could do that if we held up our end and paid more taxes to fund the new hires, couldn't you?
Because I'm going to buy some bear spray. I won't do a gun because I can't deal with my name in the paper and all the other crap that would happen if I had to kill the animal in self-defense. Then what would I do next time, kill another one? Plus I don't need them at my house.
But I am going to buy some bear spray, a big freaking can of it, and if I have to, I will OC bear spray the whole lot of these m-fs in the face and then escape.
You gonna arrest me for that?
Yeah, I got a job and I got money sometimes, but don't I have a right to eat at Ralph Lauren if I want and walk Boul Mich if I want, without having to be in fear of the animal? Don't I?
In the meantime you guys better figure something out because help isn't coming anytime soon, and yes, mopes like me are counting on you because you are all that separates us from this chaos.
You can't shove 50 lbs of shit into a 5 pound can. This was all coming due for some time. It may get down to Marshall Law and a curfew to keep these assholes off the streets.
Since crook county wont do anything, i'm all for getting the victim their property back and inviting the victim to kick in the offenders teeth after I leave the area.
And don't forget that they are also the generation that has seen the criminal justice system dole out very little justice or even punishment--to them and the generations before them. Actions that go unpunished are only emboldened to continue.
Time for concealed carry! Too bad these liberal assholes will never go for it!
Even Moprah has taken notice. People are scared!
And with everyone we lock up how many drug cartel members do we grant sanctuary too from across the border to replace them?
Not a single background check.
Because of election time coming up soon, the politicians had to show that they are doing something and so 44 illegal immigrants get busted in Illinois last week -- not by CPD but by ICE. Ain't that special? We're told how they were felons for various things many of them deported once and told not to come back but eff that they came back anyway because the "broken window" message is full of shit!
Then we see drug and firearm sales rings busted. Again by the FBI and CPD gets what amounts to an honorable mention.
Rub it in the taxpayers face.
Oh..this investigation to arrest 19 people took three years. Three years!
It comes off like the operation fast and furious deal the DOJ was pulling.
Yeah election time is here. Time to use those crises that you allowed to build up and save for just this moment. Use them now so they do not go to waste. One can better their own social-economic status quite nicely if played right...ride in on the white horse at the final hour. OH LOOK the Calvary is here to save us bullshit. Who are you kidding?
This is a culture that has been allowed to develop and thrive for business reasons. It's about business. It's about money. The more it gets out of hand the more the political apparatus loves it because it validates their positions and if the crisis is not wasted it increases their power and status. They created this culture they love this culture.
Now lets chop off the next generations education to keep the churls in line. If they want an education let's ramp up the student loan fees to place them in their slave labor jobs for the next 40 years.
You can call them losers, make jokes about their hygiene and how funny it is to talk about living in their mama's basement. However it's all going to come back at us. The joke will be on us in 30~40 years when it comes time for us to retire and these waiter, maids and WalMart workers don't even make enough money to be taxed to pay for a police force let alone anyone's healthcare or pensions.
We're all going to work until we drop. There's gonna be no retirement. NO WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT BETTER THAN OUR PARENTS DID AND NEITHER WILL ANY OF OUR KIDS at the rate things are going.
Yeah we can dream about locking them all up but who's gonna pay that bill $146/day times 100,000 inmates? The WalMArt workers of the sanctuary city? You know that the corporations aren't, nor the politicians. They both have to keep that circle jerk of campaign contribution for tax break money in their close circle of clouted friends.
Live Fast -- Die Young -- Have a Good Looking Corpse is the mantra of the ghetto. These kids have no hope, no dreams. They see no way out. They see education is a waste because it doesn't change their skin colour and they don't expect to live past 25 years old. So if you think they are going to be intimidated by a camera or a long jail sentence good luck with that plan. You're treating the symptoms and not the root cause.
The lawyers love this shit. The politicians love this shit. Many of the CPD love this shit. Maybe they'll hire some more coppers and some people will get promoted to SGT or LT. Use the crisis. Follow your leaders. Ya know what I'm sayin'
Are the Attacks Racial? I am a Police Officer in the 18th District,Every Report taken for Robbery or theft from Citizens the Offender is Black and guess what no Black Victims,We caught a 15 year old Black Kid who robbed a White Tourist and he told us we come here to Rob White people because they dont fight back.
Mope-rah's column was even worse. Oh, they're coming from Maywood and Bellwood? And what difference does that make, exactly??
Watch for Garry to reinvent a new and better CCG!
I wish everyone would quit the dancing and say these "f'ckn shithead savage" need to all be locked up and put away for ever! Civilized society would definatly be better!
Mary Schmich should experience what she writes about.
Mary why don't you take a leisurely jaunt down Michigan Ave while taking on your I Phon, at say 2200hrs Friday night, and then head home via Chicago's illustrious Redline.
Let its know how it was in an article on Monday morning.
Until these libs experience the savage intimately they are clueless.
Nothing was reported before because the papers were in that Irish fuck Daley's pocket.
Posted as a REPLY on the Kass column:
Rahm and McCarthy have been fooling the public even worse than Daley and Weis ever did. The Chicago Police Department has been decimated, no hiring, no equipment, decade old computers. The CPD did a great job for NATO, they made McCarthy look good, not the other way around. But in the neighborhoods we got nothing. There are fewer cops in fewer cars to answer more calls. "We put more cops on the street." is a downright lie.
The new strategies, the time and a half overtime for off duty cops to work Violence Reduction Missions sounds great but it is a real admission that what Rahm and McCarthy have been doing has failed the people of Chicago miserably. It’s a short term fix that will lead to tired overworked cops who will make mistakes. We need to hire a lot more new cops and promote supervisory officers and get it going now. It's already too late for this summer.
Stay Safe, Call your Alderman and demand he/she get Rahm to get rid of McCarthy, get someone from inside the CPD to pull out it out of this tailspin and hire a lot more cops. We will deal with Rahm next election.
As a clear thinking individual I agree with the Republican party on most things but I strongly disagree with their position on Planned Parenthood.
I believe Planned Parenthood should be allowed to open an office in every high school in the City of Chicago. There also should be an office for this fine organzization in every Middle School in the community.
Counselling should be mandatory.
It's happening in the ghetto too. Large groups breaking into homes and taking what they want. Beating people. It's the mentality that anything goes. The "victims" in the ghetto are sometimes as bad as the offenders.
Sue the dam CTA!!
they're supposed to provide security and there is none.
this is why I avoid mass transit and ride my electric bike instead
News organizations at first called them "flash mobs," but that made the police angry.
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You're WRONG Mr. Kass. That didn't make the REAL police angry--it made McBOBBLEHEAD and the FLAMING TUTU angry.
Just so we're clear.
Are you getting tired John? Hardly a hard-hitting piece.
This goes on all over the state. In Champaign-Urbana, it is called Polar Bear bashing, with the white folks as the polar bears. The SA and the COP both will go out of their way to say that these attacks are not racially motivated, but you know that they are.
Change the name of Michigan Ave. Too many connotations to ,ahem, Detroit.
There's only one way to handle a rabid dog/animal, it has to be put down.
The culture that invented the sin of "disrespect".
Like in prison, an accidental bump, brief eye contact, the possession of an object the "disrespected" doesn't have and wants....
all end in what is seen in this twisted, warped culture as justifiable violence. In fact, its justifiable to hurt someone else to alleviate boredom, to make the "disrespected" feel better about their uneducated, simplistic, gratification driven life.
Squawk and shriek louder, LOUDER, that makes you right. Talk over someone and your argument becomes better. Find racism and ill intent in any action you can, knowing it isn't there, to obtain an advantage, then privately laugh at the weakness you exploit.
Ghetto "culture" isn't noble, isn't pretty, it isn't what has been portrayed on show after liberal produced show; shoved down the throats of impressionable youth for two generations. It's savage, cruel and animalistic. Exploit the weak, lie, cheat, steal, rape and pillage, cuz I be fittin' to get mine, bitch! That's the truth, and while those that wish to succeed in real society exist, they are shunned and ridiculed. Not by real society, but by their own ghetto peers that would rather destroy them than see them succeed as that serves to highlight the failure of those that revel in the land of "the hustle".
Most disgusting of all, those that truly should know better, that see this dervish of insanity from inside the fence, still support the wrongdoing and the predators because of the color of their skin, the status of "minority". Watching human decency fail they would rather see their people rot than admit they are operating outside the norms of a civilized society. Blame it on racism, on poverty, on the one percent, on the nation, instead of on a failed experiment that resulted in fatherless families and glorified violence. Give us more "free", give us reparations, then finally the violence will stop. Like pouring more gasoline on a fire expecting it to be doused.
The nations fate hangs in the balance, can the average american finally accept the monster that the cruel joke of the "great society" has unleashed...can we finally call it what it is and address the problem, or will we make excuses and apologize our way into a fenced and privately patrolled Mogadishu-like hell?
One wonders.
So if these assholes come at me downtown and I am in fear for my life and safety and I defend myself and stab and kill one or two or four of these little fucks in defense of my life, am I getting charged with a hate crime murder or masnlaughter by one of Anita Alvarez' felony review pukes and then be villianized/made onto the Bernard Goetz of modern Chicago because I am a white male? Please someone anwer me. Great blog.
Attention All Chicago Police Officers:
Read the posts at 12:29 and 12:55. Read them again. Think about what those posters are saying and realize that they are right. The political system in this city/county/state has failed them. These people merely want to go about their business, to be able to come and go as they please without being attacked by some punk who thinks that attacking white people is fun. That system refuses to protect them by the fully staffing the CPD and then lies to them about our numbers and crime conditions. It treats them as it treats us-as a bunch of little children.
It is incumbent upon all Chicago Police Officers particularly those in 001 and 018 to realize this and to act accordingly. Since we/the state can no longer do our sworn duty because of things beyond our control, we can at least assist them by not arresting them if one of them shoots or uses "bear spray" on one of these punks. Look th otherway, let them walk away if you are there, whatever but please, DO NOT ARREST THEM OR BE THE CAUSE OF ANY MORE GRIEF FOR THEM. Remember the system is not on their/our side,it is instead on he side of the punk. Don't let the punk win. And if you can plug one of these little bastards yourself, even better.
ya Kass has the power to really sting when he wants to ... he apparently didn't want to ....
Anonymous said...
Whitey gets beat again by fat albert and the gang. Call it like it is a hate crime. These ghetto dogs are looking to beat rich white people. If this was reversed it would be on national news. It used to be called wilding, now its' flash mobs but it's still a hate crime. These pukes are cowards 10 jumping on 1, can't wait for them to jump the wrong person who's packing and opens up on them and raises garrys numbers even higher. They aren't flash mobs they are pure racist haters jealous of whitey living the good life, while they swelter in the cockroach infested ghetto. You reap what you sow, they should be beating their ghetto dog parents who are responsible for bringing them into the world.
Sucks to be just another ghetto rat, doesn't it!
6/14/2012 12:54:00 AM
Sorry to let the facts get in your way. But out of the three victims during this weekend; one was European, one was Hispanic and one was Asian.
This iphone story made it on the Drudge Report
"in those neighborhoods, jobs are scarce, gangs are seductive and common"
Jobs are scarce because of the violence and the gangs.
"These are the broken, and quite frankly, we don't see a fix that doesn't involve putting thousands of them in prison and hundreds in the ground."
By covering up certain categories of violent crime and thereby preventing anything being done to stop the problem earlier the media have created their very own Frankenstein's monster.
I just wish it was them who ended up paying the price for what they've done and not Joe Schmoe and his family.
Mary Schmich won a Pulitzer Prize. Thus, I see a trend. I suspect that the Red Eye might get one for their "Stripper Stories" piece, from yesterday.
Kass is very selective about his facts. I know for certain, that he arranges them according to his agenda.
In either case, get Zorn and Roeper in on the act, and there would be an ode to intellectual bankruptcy (and mediocrity), that would set the standard for such things.
John O.
Once the citizens get past the fact that this is actually been going on for years, they might start looking into the fact that even when we do lock up these individuals who are 90 percent juveniles here's what happens. We take them in to process they usually get fed then given a ride to talk to the youth and then their parents pck them up and it's usually the mother or grandmother. That's it no other consequences. Maybe a point on their record then right back next weekend
Get used to it liberals. You have alot more of it coming your way. You wanted to cut the balls off of the police. You wanted to defend pookie instead of the police. You had no problem with shortshanks and tiny dancer cutting the CPD to the fucking bone. Now strap in and get ready for the ride or your lives. Pookie is coming to your neighborhood and he's not taking any prisoners.
it's my opinion that people, where ever they move or settle, create their own culture.
Jobs would go a long way to fix this, but you have to be socialized to get a job and to keep a job and I doubt that many in these communities have that ability. Yes, I think you are right, the only fix will be to lock up thousands of these ghetto gang banging thugs.
Ret PO here
I started in Austin a lifetime ago. At that time the reverends ( some of the same as now ) were preacking against the police. One of the most common things I heard was about the "white Man's Law" and how it should not apply to them. Now what they wanted has come to pass and their kids and grandkids and being gunned down in the streets.
Lets not forget some gang leaders who are now in congress for this mess.
Add to the fact that the democrats has nuetered the police and you have a perfect storm of violence.
Oh yes, I checked, we between 2 and 3 THOUSAND men short! And no, they are not rushing recruits into the acedamy. In fact more are retiring and no one is making up the losses
Where is the Tribune in all this?
So cute! Are little crack babies all grown up !
In keeping with the theme of this thread, and with the ongoing issues on the Green Line, thought I'd share a quick story. So, I'm hopping on the Green Line at Clark/Lake, and ahead of me, an older gentlemen is about to take a seat, when a young woman, completely oblivious to the safety of the young child (maybe 2 years old) she was toting, comes running up and just shoves her way through the boarding passengers, knocks this old guy aside just as he's about to sit, and literally tosses her kid into the seat so she can sit there instead. When the old man says, "Excuse me," this young "lady" starts screaming and yelling and swearing about how he's trying to hurt her baby. Almost instantly, another crew of thugs started to get in the guy's face and back up the miscreant mom -- they were really and truly acting like a pack of animals. And in the middle of a crowded train in rush hour! Just zero common decency, self-control, or respect for others. Sadly, it's becoming so commonplace these days, that most people don't even bat an eyelash at it anymore.
Bring back corporal punishment. Put the offenders in stocks in the public square some place and beat the crap out of them. Put the video on the intertubes, too. No jail, where their thug skills could be honed, but a painful humiliation, which *will* make them think twice before doing this again. Everybody wins, and it doesn't cost anything. Jail is not a deterrent to these dysfunctional "youths," but pain and especially humiliation are.
My Chicago
As I sit and wonder
about my favorite town
I ponder the good old days
when it was safe and sound
I can walk along the lake
revel in the sun
go for a swim, sit in the sand
while having tons of fun
I can bring a picnic basket
with fried chicken and lemonade
just enjoy the company
knowing, these are the days
I can walk down famous streets
Michigan, the magnificent mile
State street that great street
walking proud and with a smile
I look around now
watching my back
knowing at anytime
I could be attacked
I won’t walk along the lake
or revel in the sun
won’t swim or sit in the sand
fearing, someone will have a gun
I won’t take a walk
down the once famous streets
my kin will stay at home
while others are getting beat
No more is my Chicago
“my kind of town”
I can’t hold my head up high
the feelings are so down
I am going to move
far away
but I will always hope
Chicago comes back some day.....
And people think Yemen is dangerous...hah!
As a private citizen I believe the tipping point has been reached. The random violence of these feral urban terrorists has been all over the news nationally. Now everyone has heard how dangerous it is to come to Chicago. There will be a drop off in retail, tourism and convention business and soon to to be many non-renewed leases on Michigan Ave to be left as empty storefronts or replaced by lower end businesses that attract only lower end customers. Property values continue to plummet and pretty soon you are living in Detroit on Lake Michigan.
This is a societal problem created by the social engineering of those who have created the welfare state to assure the votes of the dependent class. Planned Parenthood does not serve as the solution. The babies are the currency exchange for for benefits, a bigger housing voucher, more free food and cell phones and other free stuff.
If I were setting the agenda there would be massive welfare reform with strict means testing so that we can make sure there is a safety net to make sure nobody goes hungry and yet not create such a life of ease that the safety net turns into a hammock.
Since we have discouraged the family unit with handouts it will not make a difference if we decide to put the baby mamas and their offspring into dormitory style housing where they are mentored and provided with the parenting support they did not have themselves. In that setting they can share child care and finish school and get jobs. Welfare is just the push to get them over a hump, not a generational way of life.
There should be zero tolerance for the marauding bands of urban terrorists. Anybody who denies the menace of these mobs has never been in one and the video cam images do not give the true picture of how threatening these situations can be. Let us not spin our wheels with a focus on whether these are racially motivated or hate crimes,. This is behavior that cannot be tolerated in civilized society.
Because civility is the question I would do what has been done in similar situations for centuries. Send them to military school, boot camp or whatever you call a structured situation with training on all levels, physically, emotionally,intellectually and spiritually. These kids are rudderless and a good number of them could be salvaged in a structured setting. This is an option instead of sending them back to the homes that created this mess.
And of course we need more police and a more visible police presence. I have travelled a lot and been to big cities all over the US and other parts of the world have have never seen such an absence of a police presence in the parts of the city that greet tourists and visitors. And especially now to build confidence we need to see the police much more.
An aside about the red light cameras. I know 2 people from out of state that received these tickets in the mail. It might be too far for them to come back and fight them(legitimate extenuating circumstances that could be explained to an officer on the scene)but they vow they will never return to Chicago to spend any more of their tourist dollars here.
I see that we are right on the precipice. There is still time to turn things around but time is short and the stakes are high.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
As a clear thinking individual I agree with the Republican party on most things but I strongly disagree with their position on Planned Parenthood.
I believe Planned Parenthood should be allowed to open an office in every high school in the City of Chicago. There also should be an office for this fine organzization in every Middle School in the community.
Counselling should be mandatory.
6/14/2012 04:29:00 AM
I'll go one step further. I support the GOP on the Second Amendment but not on social issues. When I look at some of these bustouts that were paying for: school, free lunches, and eventually prison, I would have rather paid for their mama to abort.
Anonymous said...
As a clear thinking individual I agree with the Republican party on most things but I strongly disagree with their position on Planned Parenthood.
I believe Planned Parenthood should be allowed to open an office in every high school in the City of Chicago. There also should be an office for this fine organzization in every Middle School in the community.
Counselling should be mandatory.
6/14/2012 04:29:00 AM
I'd change "counseling" to "mandatory sterilization" for 3 out of every 5. But I lean a bit farther to the Right than most.
Blame the 1960s all you want, but you could just as easily argue that locking up all their fathers for drug offenses caused the problem.
The U.S. has been incarcerating increasingly large numbers of African-Americans for decades, a huge proportion of them for drug offenses. Do you really think sending MORE black men to prison is the solution?
Or that killing hundreds of black kids is a justifiable policy?
The truth is that neither the left nor the right has done much for poor black kids in this city.
Until there's a widespread conviction that a life is worth the same in Englewood or Austin as it is in Streeterville or Lakeview, that isn't going to change. I don't think that many folks in ANY neighborhood - black or white — believe that right now.
if what is needed could be done all this nonsense would cease. the politics involved are a major part of the problem. when will it become apparent these malcontents know how to play the system. the trump card is they are victims, and we are racists. why cant we all just get along, look in the mirror. you look like the president.
Solution; woodchippers. I'm being very serious.
The fact the MSM doesn't report the truth is of NO surprise.. that is WHY no one watches it or reads much of it anymore only a VERY FEW people report anything CLOSE to the truth anymore .. nothing new it's been going on in CHICAGO STRONG for the last 20 years .. therefore .. the bad kids have a 20 year head start on the Police..as long as the people allow the mothers and families of these gang bangers to stand before the camera's and say my kids was a GOOD boy/girl.. without speaking up and telling the camera no they weren't they were gang bangers those that do have values in these area's will be brought down to the same level as the gang bangers families..All youth are disillusioned comes with growing up and finding out it take restraint to get ahead and your NOT going to get everything you want..and because your parent(s) didn't think enough of themselves or you to get jobs and make something out of their lives is NOT any ones fault but theirs .. It is TRUE these are HATE crimes covered up by the same group that covered up rather than vetted our President.. and sooner rather than later it will come to those being attacked will take ACTION.. and it won't be pretty..Than we can be told how the STATE must take care of all for their own safety.. HOWEVER.. knowing American's it won't work..no matter HOW the MSM tries to spin it..
Offer $5000 to every young women to get permanently sterilized. The hood rats will take it before realizing they can't be a welfare factory.
its not only the "youths" with fighting dogs, a lot of "women" are also walking around with them.
think a female with an attack dog that weighs more than she does might be a problem? this poodle probably agrees with you: http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh27d5wDh20D6l517y
Anonymous said...
As a clear thinking individual I agree with the Republican party on most things but I strongly disagree with their position on Planned Parenthood.
I believe Planned Parenthood should be allowed to open an office in every high school in the City of Chicago. There also should be an office for this fine organzization in every Middle School in the community.
Counselling should be mandatory.
6/14/2012 04:29:00 AM
You are 100% correct. I too vote mostly republican and agree with you about Planned Parenthood. There are way too many people who contribute nothing of benefit to society and have generation after generation of offspring who will only suck our country dry. I wish fellow conservatives would get off their anti-abortion stance, it's a no-win. Look at the gun control issue: more and more demoncrats are no longer espousing ridiculous anti-gun measures (except in Shitcago and other urban centers)because they have finally learned that they are not going to pass constitutional muster and only serve to disarm the good people, not the bad. End of rant.
Just listening to Rush Limbaugh he has 2 million+ listeners and he is talking about the crime in CHICAGO!! barry obamas hometown what a disgrace!
The real reason the Red Line will be shut down for months
This has nothing to do with any welfare polices or getting a damn LINK card. It is lack of parental responsibility. Period, end of story. Either the father was never in the picture, in jail, on drugs or a mental head case. He or she may have a record that prevents them from working, or never worked. Bottom line, it is the damn PARENTS or lack thereof. Lack of education is in the mix as well but that is all on the PARENTS, they chose to do drugs, not attend school, not get training in a career to take care of their children. This is the result. Not social programs.
And by the way, at this point, where the fuck are the new hires for the Police? The city can give Reinsdorf millions for a Bulls practice facility, cut his tax base down, give money for a office building developer, CPS can hire someone at 21,000 a month but we cant hire cops? The fuck is this all about then?
These are hate crimes (racial or wealth whatever the motive)... If it were a group of white kids beating a black guy or latino you would have the NAACP on every news station.. I've grown very sick of the double standard. News outlets need to start reporting this crap for what it is and stop worrying about if they are going to offend the "community".
If George Carlin were still alive his bit would go something like this:
..And no, don't lock up these savages...send them to the bottom of the lake. Here's an idea, let Chicago make a new festival, like the air and water show. Load up a couple boats and planes with these f-ers, shackle their feet and fire them into the lake. Giordano's and Goose Island can sponsor and the City can sell tickets at the gate. We get the local casinos involved by numbering the the "swimmers" and loosely shackle a lucky few of them...this way the Horse Shoe, Rivers, and Elgin can take bets on who will survive the plunge... would make for a great Saturday, and I'll bet after the first "Fest" these mob beating slow down a bit.
Be safe CPD...(and residents too)
According to yahoo news, Chicago did not even make the top ten most violent cities in America! We got beat by places like Little Rock, Arkansas! Come on people, step it up this weekend and show 'em what a world-class city looks like!
Command Staff is still fooling Rahm and McCarthy by hiding fullduty officers on ghost cars , parks , foot posts and front office bwahahahabwahahaha
6/14/2012 02:29:00 AM
Let me first say I don't like GMac or McJErsey or whatever the fuck you call him.
But he isn't the problem...he is being forced to implement strategies that come from the Ivory Tower of the 5th Floor.
Jody had the same problem...he was a fuck up in his own right...but he was forced to do and not do things.
If the Police Superintendent had full authority with minimal oversight by the mayors office, Maybe the CPD could heal and be fixed. If the Super was able to hire off need and not be stuck with City Hall interference of hiring, we wouldn't be down 150+ every damn quarter. If IAD spent less time jamming up PO's on bullshit and went after Medical Abusers and Residency cheaters and actual crooked cops, morale would be better. If the Exempts were actually promoted from Skill and not by who they know/blow/screw...Morale would be 100% better.
But McJersey can't do shit while Rahm has the foot on his leash.
I just love it when they say these animals are jealous of our "good life"...good life means getting up and going to work all the time, not calling in sick, and not being late, and not looking like some hobo with sloppy pants around your knees.....who the hell wants those miscreants working for them....I wouldn't....
...you learn to talk properly...you respect people...you obey the laws....you brush your teeth...
simple really, to live the "good life"....the "good" life is not always an easy life, and there's the rub...who wants to be a straightlaced worker bee obeying the law when you can be a slobby, shifty, uneducated scum listening to rap crap all day or playing BB...its a dang choice!
just give me an event number !!! enjoy your retro.
I am a life long citizen of the City of Chicago. I played middle linebacker and boxed in high school. I am still in pretty good shape for an older guy. I have stopped walking the lakefront and downtown for fear of getting beat up by the roving bands of "disenfranchised youth." It's a lose/lose proposition. Just try and defend yourself in one of these attacks and you'll be labeled by the media as Chicago's answer to Bernie Goetz. I'm not even talking about carrying a handgun/knife/screwdriver, I'm talking about throwing a punch in self defense. The CCSA will file charges against you to appease the "community." Poor junior's mom will be on tv looking into the camera and saying "My son was just minding his own business with his friends when he was punched." From this citizen's perspective,the CPD is undermanned and over extended. Please stay safe.
6/14/2012 12:29:00 AM
After the old 1-2, just calmly continue on your way. Maybe pick up the pace a bit, but definitely leave out.
"Stay Safe, Call your Alderman and demand he/she get Rahm to get rid of McCarthy, get someone from inside the CPD to pull out it out of this tailspin and hire a lot more cops. We will deal with Rahm next election."
Thank you for finally giving ordinary citizens a way to help get more police on the force. It may not work, but it's something we can do.
what has to be the most disjointed and shoddy opinion piece ever to appear in the Tribune
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Over the years the Trib has managed to come out with a lot of disjointed and shoddy work. maybe this time they gave it their best shoddy effort.
Anonymous said...
Are the Attacks Racial? I am a Police Officer in the 18th District,Every Report taken for Robbery or theft from Citizens the Offender is Black and guess what no Black Victims,We caught a 15 year old Black Kid who robbed a White Tourist and he told us we come here to Rob White people because they dont fight back.
6/14/2012 01:22:00 AM
I've been trying to tell people for years. Black people usually mess with white people for one of two reasons: (a)they think you got money because white people are rich or (b)because they think you don't fight back. If it's just racial then you would see this in Bridgeport or maybe Mt. Greenwood, problem is tourists and doctors have more money and in Bridgeport or Mt. Greenwood there's going to be a fight and you're getting locked up. It's the same reason that kid knocked out the homeless guy on camera at the Red Line. They're looking for whoever they think is weak and won't fight back.
Anonymous said...
It's happening in the ghetto too. Large groups breaking into homes and taking what they want. Beating people. It's the mentality that anything goes. The "victims" in the ghetto are sometimes as bad as the offenders.
6/14/2012 05:09:00 AM
Can't be true. Robberies and batteries are only racially motivated. Have nothing to do with money or idle time or stupidity.
Blame the 1960s all you want, but you could just as easily argue that locking up all their fathers for drug offenses caused the problem.
The U.S. has been incarcerating increasingly large numbers of African-Americans for decades, a huge proportion of them for drug offenses. Do you really think sending MORE black men to prison is the solution?
Or that killing hundreds of black kids is a justifiable policy?
The truth is that neither the left nor the right has done much for poor black kids in this city.
Until there's a widespread conviction that a life is worth the same in Englewood or Austin as it is in Streeterville or Lakeview, that isn't going to change. I don't think that many folks in ANY neighborhood - black or white — believe that right now.
6/14/2012 11:14:00 AM
Oh my God. The problems in the black Community stem from "the Man" locking up the fathers in the family?
That is, by far, the stupidest excuse I have heard from a left winger. You have to know that that is pure nonsense. NO ONE can be that delusional.
You win. That takes the cake. Nothing is their fault.
Anonymous said...
Offer $5000 to every young women to get permanently sterilized. The hood rats will take it before realizing they can't be a welfare factory.
6/14/2012 11:28:00 AM
That is better than my idea. During the 60's they dems should have made a deal. If you want welfare, you can receive it for only 1 child after getting sterilized. I like your idea much better. Think of the money this country could save!
Where are all the bike cops everyone was in love with after NATO?
Anonymous said...
Are the Attacks Racial? I am a Police Officer in the 18th District,Every Report taken for Robbery or theft from Citizens the Offender is Black and guess what no Black Victims,We caught a 15 year old Black Kid who robbed a White Tourist and he told us we come here to Rob White people because they dont fight back.
6/14/2012 01:22:00 AM
I've been trying to tell people for years. Black people usually mess with white people for one of two reasons: (a)they think you got money because white people are rich or (b)because they think you don't fight back. If it's just racial then you would see this in Bridgeport or maybe Mt. Greenwood, problem is tourists and doctors have more money and in Bridgeport or Mt. Greenwood there's going to be a fight and you're getting locked up. It's the same reason that kid knocked out the homeless guy on camera at the Red Line. They're looking for whoever they think is weak and won't fight back.
6/14/2012 03:54:00 PM
Exactly why they will never attack anyone that can defend themselves. They prey on the weak. They will never attack any of us off-duty PO's. They are animals but are smart enough to spot a cop a mile away. That's why we will never get the chance to fight em!
Sorry to let the facts get in your way. But out of the three victims during this weekend; one was European, one was Hispanic and one was Asian
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is european new race?
Sorry to let the facts get in your way. But out of the three victims during this weekend; one was European, one was Hispanic and one was Asian.
To a normal person like you or me, those are three different races. But to the ghtto thugs who did this, a person is not black, he's white. And white is what they hunt.
I have a college age son who goes to school at ASU in Tempe. When he asked if he could stay there for the summer I was all for it. I want my son as far away from Chicago as possible. The kids have no moral foundation. We should start by locking up their parents if you can find them. I am ready for some more aggressive policing. These kids have run amuck and none of them pay taxes. I am an African American women, single parent who have raised a law abiding son in college. It can be done. You have to give a damn about your children. It's obvious these parents dont!
>>>Anonymous said...
"Stay Safe, Call your Alderman and demand he/she get Rahm to get rid of McCarthy, get someone from inside the CPD to pull out it out of this tailspin and hire a lot more cops. We will deal with Rahm next election."
Thank you for finally giving ordinary citizens a way to help get more police on the force. It may not work, but it's something we can do.
6/14/2012 03:32:00 PM
Anonymous said...
what has to be the most disjointed and shoddy opinion piece ever to appear in the Tribune
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Over the years the Trib has managed to come out with a lot of disjointed and shoddy work. maybe this time they gave it their best shoddy effort.
6/14/2012 03:46:00 PM<<<
If you can do better, or even if you can't, write it and post it on The Trib or any of these news media sites for the world to see.
As a coworker reminded me today: The crackheads from the initial onset of the crack epidemic, during the early & mid 90's? These teens are their children. Couple that with the fact that many MANY of the aforementioned crackhead parents are to this day, still crackheads, then aint no surprise whats taking place now.
What's with all the 10,000 word comments lately?
When I see something more than a few sentences I just keep scrolling.
Why is everyone suddenly so verbose????
Sorry to let the facts get in your way. But out of the three victims during this weekend; one was European, one was Hispanic and one was Asian.
6/14/2012 07:42:00 AM
Were ANY of them BLACK????
I rest my case. They were everything BUT BLACK!
Unfortunately, Kass censored comments on FB which supported the hate crime/blacks beating non-blacks reality. He focused more on the "fun" reality. At least it's a start. But interesting that our hard-hitting rock of a reporter seems to have gone soft accurately reporting on racial hate crime EPIDEMIC.
Sorry to let the facts get in your way. But out of the three victims during this weekend; one was European, one was Hispanic and one was Asian.
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so what. whats your point , no one should be victimized regardless of race. period. and European is white dumb ass
Anonymous Anonymous said...
As a clear thinking individual I agree with the Republican party on most things but I strongly disagree with their position on Planned Parenthood.
I believe Planned Parenthood should be allowed to open an office in every high school in the City of Chicago. There also should be an office for this fine organzization in every Middle School in the community.
Counselling should be mandatory.
6/14/2012 04:29:00 AM
I'll go one step further. I support the GOP on the Second Amendment but not on social issues. When I look at some of these bustouts that were paying for: school, free lunches, and eventually prison, I would have rather paid for their mama to abort.
6/14/2012 10:48:00 AM
You're not clear thinking at all. Planned Parenthood in all schools. You're a moron. We raise our children at home but obviously you still are of the mind that the children should be punished for the crimes of their parents. So a poor mother has an abortion...that did what? Her kid had a chance to be someone better than she ever was. He's gone, she's still there. So you sterilize her. How do you choose who to sterilize? Sounds like you want to increase government size and government intrusion. I'm not a card carrying Republican but it don't take much to see that you aint either. You probably think of yourself as a good and moral person too, don't you?
The truth is that neither the left nor the right has done much for poor black kids in this city.
Until there's a widespread conviction that a life is worth the same in Englewood or Austin as it is in Streeterville or Lakeview, that isn't going to change. I don't think that many folks in ANY neighborhood - black or white — believe that right now.
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Are you fucking kidding me? Haven't done anything?
The entire high school public education system has been changed in an effort to accommodate the students. Military schools, magnet schools, close schools, open more schools, build new schools, fire teachers, hire teachers, put cops in every building then take them out because it's intimidating.
Two meals a day because they don't eat at home. The same homes we go into that have a 42 in flatscreen, cable or dish, LINK provided food in the cabinets and refrigerator and sean john clothes and the best Nikes on Mom and dad's feet. If Dad is around, which he many time is not because so many young black women make bad choices which result in teen Moms and a new generation of welfare babies. Yes I know that white girls do the same thing, but look up the stats inChicago and do some reading of commentary by educated and informed black commentators and educators.
Haven't done anything? What about the way that black america has access to educational opportunities just by being black? United negro College Fund? Try looking for the United Caucasian College Fund. A black kid with a C average in high school has a better chance of aid or grants than a white kid with a C. A WAY better chance.
There was a time when being white in this town guaranteed a better chance at everything. Sorry, but as far as educational opportunities, that field has been leveled if not tilted toward minorities. You want someone to blame for that? Look at the black politicians and reverends of the last 50 years who personally profited at the expense of those they were supposed to serve. As long as they went along with the Daley/Byrne/Daley group they made money and did not give one fuck for anyone but themselves. Were there white politicians doing the same thing? You damned betcha, The difference is that the white constituents didn't have to overcome skin color to succeed. The black constituents did, and their elected representatives should have been watching out. They were not.
In response to your assertion of the worth of life, should the successful people stop being successful because there are less successful people out there? Should the better off people world accept windings and mass thefts because of some sort of guilt over their success? Read the accounts of these incidents. It has nothing to do with "the worth of a life". It has to do with a group (or groups) of people who, rather than work toward or earn the better things in life, get together and make a CONSCIOUS decision to go across town and violently take the things that successful or moderately successful own like iPods and phones and car keys? If they were stealing food, or life staples your argument might make sense.
I think that any thinking African American people would be insulted with your comments. To say that these incidents are somehow justified because of past injustices (whether real or perceived) is not only an insult to hard working, conscientious African American people, it is the continuation of the very attitude which has caused the incidents to happen.
>>>W.T.F!!<<<
To: Just A City Worker said...
6/14/2012 02:29:00 AM
Let me first say I don't like GMac or McJErsey or whatever the fuck you call him.
But he isn't the problem...he is being forced to implement strategies that come from the Ivory Tower of the 5th Floor.
Jody had the same problem...he was a fuck up in his own right...but he was forced to do and not do things.
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You just don't get it!
Weis and McCarthy were brought in as HATCHETMEN.
Outsiders who sole job it is to CHEAPEN the cost of the Chicago Police Department.
McCarthy had to go to Rahm and sell himself saying I got this thing called COMPSTAT and it will make all your crime problems go away. He had to tell 9.5 I can break the unions just like I did in Newark and one of your biggest problems is you have two many supervisors. You don't need a captain to run a watch; it could be run by a sergeant.
The conversation in that room was one bully telling another bully I will do your dirty work for you. Just pay me and let wear the uniform.
McCarthy, the gypsy-cop from Newark and NYPD brought in these Run-Everything-&-Everyone-Into-The-Ground strategies.
>>You see why we need to get rid of both of these goofs, register and vote.<<<
Since many of these punks are juveniles and would be charged as juveniles, I'd like to announce publicly that there is a strong push in juvenile court to reduce the population in the juvenile detention center (audy home). If the population in custody there is reduced to under a certain amount, the county will get hundreds of thousands of dollars in return. This poses so many problems. Basically, juvenile court judges are refusing to hold dangerous offenders in custody because of pressure to get money for the county at the expense of public safety. Contrary to Toni Precwincle's beliefs, juveniles are not being prosecuted for minor possession of cannabis charges. Instead, juveniles are charged with aggravated batteries, robberies, residential burglaries, possession of firearms, shootings, murders and attempted murders. They already see juvenile court as a jOke and now it's even less likely they'll be locked up. Its sickening and the public needs to know. Even probation officers have to get special approval to file violations and then can't even recommend custody when the kid is a huge danger to society. Public safety means nothing anymore.
Sorry to let the facts get in your way. But out of the three victims during this weekend; one was European, one was Hispanic and one was Asian.
Those are just the victims the media chose to report about. Trust in the fact there were many more victims i
mass robberies and batteries and there were white victims a plenty.
“Sorry to let the facts get in your way. But out of the three victims during this weekend; one was European, one was Hispanic and one was Asian”
Good point. We all know how blacks get along so famously with all those groups. Especially Koreans. LOL
Allow conceal carry.....is anybody fukkin home!?!?
To the idiot ranting about Planned Parenthood and sterilization PP also provides birth control pills and condoms. Unless you're against that too.
Shit, perhaps your mom should have put an aspirin between her legs to prevent your birth.
One thing the government should provide is free birth control for anyone who asks. Do that for a generation or two and the jobs of future cops and teachers will be that much easier.
This what the Democrats sowed and harvested. Living on the government without any responsibilities.
You're not clear thinking at all. Planned Parenthood in all schools. You're a moron. We raise our children at home but obviously you still are of the mind that the children should be punished for the crimes of their parents. So a poor mother has an abortion...that did what? Her kid had a chance to be someone better than she ever was. He's gone, she's still there. So you sterilize her. How do you choose who to sterilize? Sounds like you want to increase government size and government intrusion. I'm not a card carrying Republican but it don't take much to see that you aint either. You probably think of yourself as a good and moral person too, don't you?
6/14/2012 09:26:00 PM
I'm clear thinking enough to know that some of these so called "parents" should of never became parents to begin with. They have raised an ignorant generation that has no respect for the rights of others. Mobs of youth beating on people for the hell of it? More likely than not the attacks are probably motivated by race.
None of the kids in my family have a record. What about you?
What's with all the 10,000 word comments lately?
When I see something more than a few sentences I just keep scrolling.
Why is everyone suddenly so verbose????
6/14/2012 06:30:00 PM
Dont read them then. Life doesn't revolve around our preferences unfortunately.
In keeping with the theme of this thread, and with the ongoing issues on the Green Line, thought I'd share a quick story. So, I'm hopping on the Green Line at Clark/Lake, and ahead of me, an older gentlemen is about to take a seat, when a young woman, completely oblivious to the safety of the young child (maybe 2 years old) she was toting, comes running up and just shoves her way through the boarding passengers, knocks this old guy aside just as he's about to sit, and literally tosses her kid into the seat so she can sit there instead. When the old man says, "Excuse me," this young "lady" starts screaming and yelling and swearing about how he's trying to hurt her baby. Almost instantly, another crew of thugs started to get in the guy's face and back up the miscreant mom -- they were really and truly acting like a pack of animals. And in the middle of a crowded train in rush hour! Just zero common decency, self-control, or respect for others. Sadly, it's becoming so commonplace these days, that most people don't even bat an eyelash at it anymore.
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And you did what? Therein lies the problem.
Schmich's article makes no sense because she is a FN coward on the issue of race. Or she is in complete denial.
It wasn't "roving groups of youths" it was marauding gangs of blacks.
Economics has nothing to do with this. They are not robbing to keep from starving. They are robbing and beating people because it is fun.
"Sorry to let the facts get in your way. But out of the three victims during this weekend; one was European, one was Hispanic and one was Asian."
1) Those aren't the facts those are some of the facts.
2) When there's black victims like Trayvon Martin the media fall over themselves to pump up the race angle even if it's all BS made up by the media.
3) When there's white victims the media does the exact opposite.
The MSM is anti-white.
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"Until there's a widespread conviction that a life is worth the same in Englewood or Austin as it is in Streeterville or Lakeview, that isn't going to change."
Change that to gangbangers don't believe a life is worth anything and you'll be closer to having a clue.
Anonymous said...
The truth is that neither the left nor the right has done much for poor black kids in this city.
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Are you fucking kidding me? Haven't done anything?
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MY GOD, those were my thoughts exactly.
Interesting as it is to read all these posts, what is the solution? This 'devolution' of human civility is everywhere. Reminds me of this movie called Idiocracy.
IN RESPONSE TO:
6/14/2012 10:38:00 PM
About six years ago in a covert, My partner and I followed four juvie scums for about 3 blocks following a victim. Then they, attacked and robbed the man. This occured in the south loop. Robbery interuptus. All caught. There was no doubt they had done this before, too good at the method. They were charged with robbery until we went to court and the chargers were dropped to misdemeanor theft and battery. Coppers know this game but the public does not. So the vicious cycle of this is you will never be charged with a felony. Just keep knocking it down. Then lets raise the age for a juvenile from 17 to 18, so they have an extra year of getting away with felonies. This is insane. They all walked away after injuring this man and ruining his life. He told the judge in open court that if it wasn't for my partner and myself, he truly believed he would have been killed, and who knows.
The difference between humans and animals is that humans have the ability to think and reason. They can weigh the consequence of their actions. Animals act on impulse and instinct with no regard for the consequence of their actions. Only a liberal puke who has never seen these animals in action would cry racism when they are called what they are- savage animals.
Lets see what song she sings after some of the ghetto
mutts kick her ass, just for fun !!!!
Anonymous said...
The truth is that neither the left nor the right has done much for poor black kids in this city.
Couldn't agree more. I've long believed that this country needs a solid INDEPENDENT movement. Sadly, we're all locked into our ultra liberal left or ultra conservative right mindsets. And where has that gotten the country? More divided than ever.
"So you sterilize her. How do you choose who to sterilize? Sounds like you want to increase government size and government intrusion. I'm not a card carrying Republican but it don't take much to see that you aint either. You probably think of yourself as a good and moral person too, don't you?"
6/14/2012 09:26:00 PM
How do you choose who to sterilize? That's easy. I'm not necessarily condoning outright sterilization, but I think mandatory birth control should be a requirement for any female on the public dole. You take free tax payer money, you go on the pill. You get pregnant, you lose your free money. Simple as that.
I think that any thinking African American people would be insulted with your comments. To say that these incidents are somehow justified because of past injustices (whether real or perceived) is not only an insult to hard working, conscientious African American people, it is the continuation of the very attitude which has caused the incidents to happen.
6/14/2012 09:48:00 PM
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Not sure where I said that the wildings were justified?! Or that successful people should "stop being successful"?!
I said that the underlying problem is that young black men's lives aren't equally valued in white OR black communities.
If the young black men who committed these crimes valued their own lives, they wouldn't have committed the crimes in the first place.
If white folks truly understood and acknowledged how they continue to benefit from the historical legacy of slavery and racist attitudes, they'd ask themselves why these young men don't value life, and see what they could do to help.
Segregation and racial inequality is a part of the problem. Both communities have to change and accept responsibility if its ever going to be fixed.
By all means crack down on wildings and hold those responsible accountable. But if you don't also address the underlying causes, stuff like this is going to keep happening, no matter how draconian the punishments.
kids need more hot flamin cheetos and grape pop for breakfast
Anonymous said...
What's with all the 10,000 word comments lately?
When I see something more than a few sentences I just keep scrolling.
Why is everyone suddenly so verbose????
6/14/2012 06:30:00 PM
Maybe because I could care less if someone so mentally challenged that they can't focus to read more than a few lines reads my posts?
Short enough?
6/15/2012 09:35:00 AM
Because the left, the right, my Mother or the Cub's front office shouldn't be doing for "poor black kids", their fucking parents should be. But they'd rather smoke dope, drink and cry about their unfair life and how all the freebies aren't enough.
So many excuses on here...best being how their fathers got locked up for drugs and by extension that's my fault and I owe them a living.
Fuck that.
My old man gave me nothing but a name, his wisdom, and a good ass-kicking when needed. We didn't have shit, but I learned responsibility. The lesson that every jackass liberal wants to delete from the harddrive of minorities. I used to be a democrat, but jaysus, I just can't do it anymore.
If white folks truly understood and acknowledged how they continue to benefit from the historical legacy of slavery and racist attitudes, they'd ask themselves why these young men don't value life, and see what they could do to help.
Segregation and racial inequality is a part of the problem. Both communities have to change and accept responsibility if its ever going to be fixed.
No. The true problem is YOU and any other idiot that spews such complete, utter fucking nonsense.
You are an apologist and a fool. I have not one fucking iota of responsiblity for some ghetto moroness that has nothing yet breeds and spits out kids she can't, and has no desire to, care for. NONE. I'm getting really tired of hearing different.
I saw a strong resemblance of paul kersey walking michigan ave. late last night.
Clockwork Orange 2012.
"The truth is that neither the left nor the right has done much for poor black kids in this city."
Excuse me, but the left has been in charge of this city from time imemorial. You are now reaping what you have sown.
Re: 6/15/2012 01:11:00 PM
Gacy and Dahmner valued their own lives, but somehow managed to commit heinous crimes. What is this "somehow"? It is our good friend "freewill".
Segregation, racial inequality and lack of valued lives didn't force the aforementioned Black men to commit violent crimes. Instead of sociological and psychological excuses, blame freewill.
If white folks truly understood and acknowledged how they continue to benefit from the historical legacy of slavery and racist attitudes, they'd ask themselves why these young men don't value life, and see what they could do to help.
Segregation and racial inequality is a part of the problem. Both communities have to change and accept responsibility if its ever going to be fixed.
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What I heard you say is that white america is somehow responsible for the mindless violence which takes place in and around black neighborhoods as well as the roving groups downtown. That same violence which is unfortunately accepted and excused and covered for under the guise of "slavery and it's aftermath. Slavery ended 200 plus years ago. Every black American has the right to vote and to attend any school that they choose. Discrimination in housing and commerce is dealt with quickly and harshly, as it should be. Black Americans are given slots in the best colleges and graduate schools over equally qualified whites solely because of their color.
During those 200 plus years people of many different colors have come to America, assimilated and prospered. Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans and others have made their way. Are there Hispanic and Oriental ghettos and gangs? I am not naive, of course there are. But I do not think, nor do I read about either of those groups continue to say "you owe me something". There are still black Americans waiting for reparations in the faint hope that some big check will come and fix things.
It continues today. In what world is it ok for a leader of the black community (Bobby Rush) to say that if the flyover bridge work is not given to black companies that "there will be trouble for sure". That's extortion by any definition. But no one takes him to task. Great.
Was slavery unfair and a crime against humanity? You damn right it was, but it's about time to move past that part of the debate and address the real problems which affect black America: non involved parents, teen pregnancy and the continuous cycle of poverty and system of handouts which entices generation after generation to stand by with their hand out because it's just easier.
And for the guy who hates the long posts? Go back to that pile of comic books in your Mom's basement.
"I'd change "counseling" to "mandatory sterilization" for 3 out of every 5. But I lean a bit farther to the Right than most."
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Actually, that's a traditional political position of the left.
Eugenics was seen as the only way to keep the human race from degenerating into "thugs,cripples, imbeciles and morons" and was a big, big social movement - led by the far left - back at the beginning of the 1900's.
They were actually killing off handicapped people, the insane, criminals, and were concentrating on non-whites as much as possible.
They eventually had to quit and disband because Nazi Germany began following their exact principles, which made them look bad.
So, don't claim that as a philosophy of the right. It belongs firmly to the left.
6/15/2012 3:58:00 PM...
"Fuck that.
My old man gave me nothing but a name, his wisdom, and a good ass kicking when needed."
Amen good sir... Amen.
The cut of your jib is fierce and admirable...
Happy (early) Father's Day to you and your Old Man.
Wise, tough, nonsense intolerant, hard-eyed, heavy fisted Men and the Sons of Men are marked for irrelevance in this town.
Look at the forked tongued, double-talking north shore shit-asses, wet eyed punks, tip-toeing, baby smooth metrosexuals and just plain dishonorable fucks running things in this city.
Hey, Anonymous @ 6/14/2012 07:42:00 AM who said:
Sorry to let the facts get in your way. But out of the three victims during this weekend; one was European, one was Hispanic and one was Asian.
6/14/2012 07:42:00 AM
Are you effing kidding me??? Were the victims a Black European, a Black Hispanic, and a Black Asian?
Grab a mop, your bleeding heart is making a mess! Lib-tard.
Heh...
General "Black Jack" Pershing broke the backs of the Moros in the Philippines by giving them everything they boasted about not being afraid of to bring their terrorism to a halt...
Just a little historical perspective. That's all...
Anonymous said...
If white folks truly understood and acknowledged how they continue to benefit from the historical legacy of slavery and racist attitudes, they'd ask themselves why these young men don't value life, and see what they could do to help.
Segregation and racial inequality is a part of the problem. Both communities have to change and accept responsibility if its ever going to be fixed.
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My ancestors lived in the North and some fought in the Union army. We didn't benefit from slavery, but we benefited by work ethics passed down through the generations.
You are soft and part of the problem.
"Segregation and racial inequality is a part of the problem."
No it really isn't. The violence and the gangs > every other aspect of the problem.
Some people have a violent streak. Some of them can control it and some of them can't.
If one ethnic group has 2% with that streak and half of those can control it that leaves 1% who'll be responsible for most of that group's violent crime stats.
If a second ethnic group has 8% with that streak and only a quarter who can control it that will leave 6%.
The *rate* of violent crime of the second group will be six times higher and no amount of BS will change that.
If you locked them up at the same rate so the worst had less kids then over time the percentage would drop.
Anonymous said...
If white folks truly understood and acknowledged how they continue to benefit from the historical legacy of slavery and racist attitudes, they'd ask themselves why these young men don't value life, and see what they could do to help.
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I'm not being a smart-ass, but I'd really like to know the basis for this comment. How do white people benefit, and why young black men don't value life?
And by the way, you left out young black women, why?
I'd really like to hear why you think those things.
Both communities have to change and accept responsibility if its ever going to be fixed.
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I reject "responsibility" out of hand.
Maybe I can help, sure, but I am far from "responsible."
And if, and that's a big if, I benefitted from slavery, then so did you. So it's a wash.
And when I see some dog throw his McDonald's bag out of his car window ... I wonder what the fuck that has to do with slavery. Perhaps you have an answer? But I doubt it.
Read "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" by Thomas Sowell (a black man).
How about instead of making excuses for unacceptable behavior, we require personal responsibility for an individual's actions. How about allowing the police to do their jobs, lock people up when they commit crimes and force them to face the consequences for their actions.
How about mandatory sentencing including life in prison for those who commit 1st degree murder, if
that means building more prisons then so be it.
What if we stop lowering the bar for everybody which is what got us into this situation in the first place.
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