Clearing the Deadwood - Again?
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel vowed Wednesday to follow Inspector General Joe Ferguson’s recipe to save up to $16.6 million a year and put another 292 police officers on the street — by shifting sworn officers from desk jobs to street duty.
After a “complete review of police assignments,” Emanuel said Police Supt. Garry McCarthy has already reassigned “560 to 580” officers who were previously doing clerical and administrative jobs to patrol Chicago neighborhoods.
If Ferguson has identified even more police officers “pushing paper,” as Emanuel put it, the mayor said he would relish the opportunity to return those officers to street duty as well, so long as the police union contract does not prevent it.
All we know is we had to go to HQ the other week and there wasn't a parking spot to be found. And while we understand there are certain functions that have to be carried out by sworn police officers as required by state law (backgrounds, criminal histories, etc.) it sure seems that certain exempts are flouting McNitwit's edicts concerning numbers of office staff required.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
245 Comments:
Everybody who came on this job knew they were coming as police officers not nurses, clerks, or accountants so don't start crying now that your cushy job is over. If you wanted to be any of the above you should have stayed in the private sector.
Want to save FIFTY-FIVE MILLION DOLLARS [$55,000,000.00]?
Scratch Maggie Daley Park.
Parking at HQ has been awful for all the officers supposedly not there anymore. I know we share it with CFD now, but the parking is ridiculous.
Don't forget the dept is there too
You are acting ignorant, SCC. I'm sure there are a handful of dollies being hidden, but there are many essential jobs at HQ from every bureau. Could Civilians handle them? Possibly...do you want even more of Meeks's people infiltrating our Department, learning everything? You do realize that between his "congregation" and "Bishop Trotter" that EVERY SINGLE civilian at HQ is bought and paid for with a Democtatic vote, right? Seems to be an over whelming single race of those civilians. Wonder why?
Don't be so quick to judge. Don't forget, I'm one of the many that are more than willing to take one of those inside jobs, but Rahm would rather push me off on to the Pension fund and leave me in a no pay status for 5-6 months while the pension board decides if I am politically worthy or not. It's a shell game, and we ALL get fucked because of it.
Big FU to cmdr Pena in 010. Not only have you destroyed a once great place to work with your micro-managing, numbers seeking, political ass-kissing bullshot, but now you've decreed that no one is allowed to take lunch outside of the district???? Go 'eradicate' the kings your fucking self, with your front office suck asses and pimpy arrest mission team!
-a P.O.that likes to fuck with the bangers and dope boys,but won't be doing so anymore.
Those P.O.'s left in lock-up...find your duty belts!!!
The news is reporting that Rahm is saying that 300 civilian can replace 300 officers. Nowhere in any of the interviews was it said that 300 "qualified" civilians would be the replacements. Can you just imagine the "ward heelers" that we will get in these spots.
Criminal histories (depending on the reason for inquiry) aren't required to be run by sworn officers, just at the request of them. It's called secondary dissemination. If there are sworn "clerks" just running criminal histories for either employment, identification or cases for detectives, that's ludicrous.
We are already infiltrated with gang banger cops, now they'll have an easier entry point, civilian positions.
I worked lockup in the mid 90's and I regularly spoke to civilians and PO's down at Ident. I'd call on the status pf prints and the civilians regularly lied to you. The only time you got a straight answer about print status is if a PO spoke to you. Yeah, lets replace sort of lazy cops with really lazy city employees. What could go wrong?
I wish I could figure out what ur all bitching about. I have a good job. Great boss. No kool aid here. Just worked many many harder jobs than this. Take care of yourself your partner and all ur bros and sis. Follow the law and enjoy life. I guess I should thank my lucky stars I'm in the deuce Thanx Fred
Let's kick one of the two remaining PO's off the desk and replace them with a civilian! Yeah, that's the ticket! Nothing bad could happen with a district that is wide open to the public with one armed PO and whatever they call the Watch Commander this week. That is until one of these civilians is beaten to death right (yes, this is the Peoples Republik of Chicago, they could be shot instead) in the damn police station.
Lt. A.S. (024) has advocated this for years. She is so smart. She was aheade of her time.
If this latest housecleaning attempt actually comes to fruition it'll be interesting to see which house mice have the most whack.
And knowing how this fucked-up department operates, the following is pretty much guaranteed: People in bid spots will be the next to have the contract violated when they're sent packing anywhere but their contractually-protected, seniority-based positions.
And don't put it past the ignoramuses in charge of running this circus to violate the rights of officers in spots due to legitimate disabilities.
Both scenarios are highly probable given the amount of ignorance and lack of leadership and knowledge that encompasses the majority of those at CPD's helm. Whatever decisions are ultimately made will surely cost the city some coin because they won't be implemented properly. You can bet the farm on this.
It was satisfying to see the humility back in beat cars after the last Fort Fellatio shake-up. Dollies and 3 year wonders that didn't quite make the cut suddenly thrust back into answering calls for service on a late car in 004 makes for some good laughs. Nothing beat the 1000 yard stare that accompanied these folks as the realization set in that they're no longer - at least for that time - "special".
Watch for the city's lawyers to introduce proposals during contract negotiations that would totally eliminate sworn officers from desk and other administrative duties. Just never you mind that sensitive materials are being handled by the GD cousin of some mutt the police killed during a robbery.
Not sure about those state laws that require po's to do certain duties. Civilians have done all the jobs as backgrounds checks, fingerprints, etc They work in identification section and work directly with records
And while we understand there are certain functions that have to be carried out by sworn police officers as required by state law (backgrounds, criminal histories, etc.)
Not true, what about detention aides. They have access to all the same info as a sworn po working the lock up. Civilians working in almost every section of the CPD also have access to that sensitive information. In the youth division civilians post and work with juvenile histories as well as the youth officers.
Go to Area 1 and see how many people "work for the Commander" doing absolutely nothing while the rest of the detectives are swamped. No wonder everyone is bidding out of here. The area where the useless are protected and hidden.
a few unfriendly con artists working atthe MSS They could be in beat cars
Get rid of XO's and their pay, put them back to rank title and pay. That would save millions right there.
In my Bridgeport district there's 7-8 full duty officers working inside hidden in the Commanders and Tact offices alone.
Rahm and the IG wouldn't like that.
Where are they gonna get the 300?
150 OF THEM ARE COMING FROM THE 012 DISTRICT SUPERBID COMING IN MARCH!!!
That's right kiddies... starting in March or ending in March 100 to 150 of these new "street cops" are gonna be all the kids cut from the bottom of the combining of 012 & 013.
250 will be the new magic number of officers in 012.
So in reality, they're only gonna need another 150 from downtown to make up the "300 inside spots" they claim they're gonna get.
Nice while it lasted in 012 kids, the ride is over.
Enjoy 006 and anywhere else the animal runs amok because that's where you're going.
How will there be a cost savings if these civilians aren't currently employed by the city?
If you replace a copper with a civilian the coppers salary is still on the books cause you have moved him not fired him.
Then you have to hire a civilian to take his place. How the Hell could that be considered a cost savings when you're actually adding to the payroll??
There are no parking spots because the Fire Department is operating out of HQ now. Lots of PO's have been decimated from the building a long time ago.
SCC Fan said...
You are acting ignorant, SCC. I'm sure there are a handful of dollies being hidden, but there are many essential jobs at HQ from every bureau. Could Civilians handle them? Possibly...do you want even more of Meeks's people infiltrating our Department, learning everything? You do realize that between his "congregation" and "Bishop Trotter" that EVERY SINGLE civilian at HQ is bought and paid for with a Democtatic vote, right? Seems to be an over whelming single race of those civilians. Wonder why?
Don't be so quick to judge. Don't forget, I'm one of the many that are more than willing to take one of those inside jobs, but Rahm would rather push me off on to the Pension fund and leave me in a no pay status for 5-6 months while the pension board decides if I am politically worthy or not. It's a shell game, and we ALL get fucked because of it.
1/24/2013 12:24:00 AM
Can I get an amen to that?
Having dealt with the civilians on our job, I can tell you most are sub-par. You think it's hard to get a copper to work, try dealing with or firing a civilian. It is a nightmare...no impossible.
This will be a big problem but Rahm needs to build his political army.
There will just be more nonsense beats to hide the scaredy-cats. Nothing to see here!
Unless, of course, they start with the CAPS officers!
two or three secretaries in fugitives, 3 in CO's office now. Wow. All in that tiny little unit!
Hahaha "we can save UP To $16 million dollars"
Is that like the $7 million dollars that was going to be generated by writing up pot tickets that has turned out to be only $280,000 or about 4% of that projection?
Pardon me Batman but if McMC put 500 more cops on the street and there's another 300 more cops that he forgot about... how efficient was his review in the first place?
As we all know this is all about efficiency, right?
Going from 500 to 800 more cops on the street is a 60% increase over the initial move.
Or maybe it's like the on-line state lottery ticket sales that also came in at about 96% below that estimate too?
Or like the million dollar violence interrupters that was going to free up resources that I don't think anyone has seen hide nor hair of since they cash their checks and you can correct me if I'm wrong.
Anonymous said...
Big FU to cmdr Pena in 010. Not only have you destroyed a once great place to work with your micro-managing, numbers seeking, political ass-kissing bullshot, but now you've decreed that no one is allowed to take lunch outside of the district???? Go 'eradicate' the kings your fucking self, with your front office suck asses and pimpy arrest mission team!
-a P.O.that likes to fuck with the bangers and dope boys,but won't be doing so anymore.
1/24/2013 12:33:00 AM
Hey dummy, guess what? Others will still come in with numbers. So you and your ilk are fucked. Big time.
If you want management in 11 to give you more privileges then go out there and bust your ass.
Once the numbers improve things will get better. If the numbers don't improve then things will get worse.
How many are working in the compstat unit?
Too many "Madonnas" working inside in 19.
You know how else you can save $16 million dollars?
Knock a year off the prison terms of about 325 mutts in the joynt. They tell us it's costing us taxpayers about $50,000 a year to keep them there.
Like the corporate bankers and CEO's they didn't mean it. Let 'em out. It was all a misunderstanding. If they robbed someone just let them give the money back without admitting or denying anything and it's all good.
Besides if we put 1,100 inmates back on the street think of how great that Maggie Daley park will be eh? We'll have double the money for the clouted contractors doing that job!
Luckily for Supernintendo McCMario the weather has slowed the killings.
OT:
Wriggle Field Renovation.
Will Rahm pull a Daley (Meigs Field) and roll the bulldozers out at 2 am?
Maybe the aldermen can ride 99 in a beat car too -- after all, they are supposed to be reaching out to their constituents in their communities.
Police Officer Crossing Guard Supervisors should be sent to 3, 5, 7 Dist to make up the work they missed when off on Saturdays and Sundays and Holidays.
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Dump these guys to the street
Those P.O.'s left in lock-up...find your duty belts!!!
PO crossing guard supervisors too
Rahm and the IG
Look at POs that are off weekends and Holidays Thats why I dont do SHIT!!!!! Where's my CU
"Lt. A.S. (024) has advocated this for years. She is so smart. She was aheade of her time."
That's fucking hilarious!!!
Is it me? How exactly does that save money? We make the same no matter where we work- in fact we make less working inside because theres no overtime or court. Does anybody really listen to this crap?
Here is how to save money.Replace all inside sworn officers with Walmart Greeters and then replace all Beat Officers
with neighborhood watch citizens that work for free.The City will save Milllions
Speaking of parking...I had to go to 35th street the other day. I have a handicapped parking permit due to an on duty shooting that severely injured my spinal cord and greatly effects my walking abilities. Every one of the handicapped parking spots were taken and most had another car in the stripped area to prevent such abuses. I swear to God, there are more handicapped spots there than the Rehabilitation Institue of Chicago. When I mentioned this in passing to the one officer at the center security desk, he replied that they all have "asthma" with a smile and cannot walk 50 feet without stopping.
What a joke these civilians are. Sick, lame and lazy all in one.
But lots of those house mouses are scared to go back on the street. How many would then hit the medical?
So caps returns just ahead of this announcement? Coincidence?
Anonymous said...
Lt. A.S. (024) has advocated this for years. She is so smart. She was aheade of her time.
1/24/2013 01:30:00 AM
She is smart. Just ask her. And she is a lieutenant of police. That she'll make sure she TELLS you.
Tony Riccio had 7 inside people where Walsh had 1. All have (the nicest) assigned vehicles where the rest of us have to fight for keys to a shitbox and get yelled at daily for a late list we have no control over.
So Rahm's new plan of lying to the public is to state every six months or so that he took five hundred officers off of the desk and put them on the street.
Our problems have been solved. All Hail Rahm, our Great Leader!
When will people tire of socialist lies?
They can dump the two crossing guard supervisors in 12. Go get your duty rig. Talk bout house mouses.
Anonymous said...
a few unfriendly con artists working atthe MSS They could be in beat cars
1/24/2013 03:02:00 AM
Yea, What about those scamming a disability every month? Desk jobs or out!
To those who complain about how many people are at HQ, please stop trying to start something you don't even know what your talking about. Yes there are some bosses that have their chosen few hidden, Compstat Unit is over staffed and they never go out on the street. Chief Tracy acts like he is the 1st Deputy and does whatever he wants because he one of the Supts guys. Second the units have been stripped Down so far there are not many places yet to cut before you start cutting efficiency. Another point, think about the majority of the civilians on this job, do you really want to being trying to get them to check something for you, of you find them there out front smoking usually. Parking at HQ sucks, but remember we have CFD, IAD, some specialized units, records, all the officer who are stripped doing clerical work, well I can go on and on but I don't know of many places you can cut. 4 years ago there were most 500 officers at HQ, now it's down to around 170, many of those spots you can eliminate for security reasons or specialized training. Those who complain I would like to see them go there and do the work and they will have a totally new respect for how much work these admin officers really do.
1/24/2013 12:33:00 AM
Dont like 010 anymore? How about you leave?
Funny how they only came up with po's. there are loads of Sgts thru exempts that could be better utilized. Why doesn't nine fingers mess with other city depts? Some of them have deputies, assit deputies and assis deputies to the assistant. Messing with them would mean screwing with the Alderman and their handout jobs.
It's such a joke, it would be easy to lower the deficit but that would mean Twinkle toes would have to act like a man and stand up to the alderman and reverends. Sorry CPD it's easier to screw you over.
I agree there are areas that too many house mouses sit around do nothing and get paid the same amount as the working police but I blame the bosses who put them there and then watch the rest of us working work are asses off. Our job is full of redundancy and dogs!!
FU rahm-weasel stop blowing tax dollars on bullshit....
fuck that saggy maggie park! all that money for some stupid ugly bitch that did nothing
Do we really need a Marine Unit? Is their budget available for public viewing? How much revenue do they generate? Do they ever arrest anyone?
Taxpayer
Check the 17th district first! Commanders office full of blue shirts, dest crew on 3rd watch full of blue shirts, caps office full of blue shirts.
Sir, the people doing background and Criminal history are civilians. You mentioned state law? Yeah right. One was even caught with stacks of rap sheets at her house but was never disciplined because...yup she is a black civilian.
They simply need to hire retirees to do that stuff.
Homan square , erps & crime lab have many sworn officers doing clerical work . Some of the oficers could be back in a beat car and replaced by civilians.
No Officer with less than 25 years should be hiding in or under the commanders desk .
Some of us did not come on this job to be running around shooting and arresting people!
Anonymous said...
The news is reporting that Rahm is saying that 300 civilian can replace 300 officers. Nowhere in any of the interviews was it said that 300 "qualified" civilians would be the replacements. Can you just imagine the "ward heelers" that we will get in these spots.
1/24/2013 01:13:00 AM
Because as we all know, those 300 officer/house mice are definitely "qualified."
Those honorable inside desk cops certainly do not owe their position to some reverend or to the Democratic employment machine.
If there is one thing we cannot surrender from the inside of the 35th castle, it is the honor and dignity that those seated and sworn provide to this magnificent city and this wondrous department!
This would be the first time for Rahm to listen to his inspector's recommendations. Tiny Dancer sure didn't like Ferguson's repeated inquiries about city hall improprieties. He also shut down his attempts to obtain information/documents/files regarding city hall, graft, patronage jobs & contracts. We are put under the magnifying glass with 9.5's approval, but he is allowed to be a unchecked dictator. Do as i say, not as i do..at it's finest. As always remember..its for the children, take it to the alley, don't leave tomatoes on my porch, and of course i can do whatever the fuck i want Im God/Yawheh!!!!
Always said, shake out those hidden, and not so well hidden, offices city wide and you could fill an entire district.
i'm willing to bet this has to do with The Great Black Father's verbal spanking of the evil spawn of a midget mayor in his gun control speech. Remember he mentioned how crime is in chicago? and it needed more police? Tiny was spanked good by
O-Blame-Ya
perhaps abama needs to watch the new tv series on chicago called Comstat in action and the wonderful show of the Streetlightassasin doing his gig at st sabina
in no time even the great black father will see "it's those darn pilgrims fault
Anonymous said...
Big FU to cmdr Pena in 010. Not only have you destroyed a once great place to work with your micro-managing, numbers seeking, political ass-kissing bullshot, but now you've decreed that no one is allowed to take lunch outside of the district???? Go 'eradicate' the kings your fucking self, with your front office suck asses and pimpy arrest mission team!
-a P.O.that likes to fuck with the bangers and dope boys,but won't be doing so anymore.
That front office staff will fill about 10, 10-4 cars and a Sgt!
How about some demotions already. Will save millions. Not one person was ever demoted in pay under Rahm and mccarthy. Way to downsize lying a$$holes!
ERPS is hiding a whole platoon.
It's just a re-purge.
Take a look around. Those 2 or 3 that your district got when the first purge of 35th street happened, remember those people? I know, I know, they weren’t in a Squad Car long, a summer, that’s it.
Well, where'd they go? Yeah, those 2 or 3 people! They went BACK to 35th St.!!!!
Slowly they were re-assigned or detailed back to their cushy, empty holster, house mouse spots.
Nothing new at all, just another version of the “Shell Game” that the Department is playing. And yes, much like the days of old “Jew Town” on Maxwell Street, while the “Shell Game” is being played in front of you, it’s nothing more than a diversion for the pick-pocket behind you.
after 28 yrs. on the street, i bid for the review office, got the bid and after 2 yrs. was forced out by the first purge on june 15th 2011, because i was the junior review officer.....i'm still waiting for the union to address the issue of a clear violation of the contract......and no, i wasn't a screw-up....i was the best damn review officer 010 dist. ever had.....don't think for a minute that any bid spot is safe... stay safe.......wolfman
Expect screams and crying from all the clout babies that have spent their entire careers inside.
Expect to pity the poor souls that get stuck with these "Inside Wonders" that don't actually know how to be the police.
I'm going to retire in a few months, I have over 30 years and I know me and several other retires would come back part time and for half the pay as civilian employees to work the desk. Just a thought
Get rid of D-3 pay and the commander from the mayors detail! As a matter of fact to any investigative reporter why does the city treasurer have active Chicago police officers being paid sergeants pay with lucrative overtime ! I know alderman Burke has body guards but hey are retired officers making substantially less than being paid to the mayors and treasures lackeys! Here's an idea ferguson civilianize his bullshit! Better yet offer to retired officers at a million dollars plus savings! Reality what a concept! Maybe get rid of the city cars and let them pay for small fuel efficient green cars right rahm?
I was a PO in the burbs for over 30years. While working as a Detective, I had to visit a Pawn Shop detail unit. I was treated like a piece of crap by the civilians when I came to the Area Desk. I lucked out when a PO behind the counter happened to be passing and overheard me talking to the ignorant civilian who thought they were the King of the Mountain and talking to the White Suburban Officer. Needless to say it left me with a really bad impression and a reason to avoid working with the City in the future. Good luck having them really running the Department without police officers around.
If its working for the public to hear,they will wear it out,it's like a line you use when you go out and party to meet somebody,you may use it over and over until it stops working!
Anonymous said...
Want to save FIFTY-FIVE MILLION DOLLARS [$55,000,000.00]?
Scratch Maggie Daley Park.
1/24/2013 12:12:00 AM
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Knock off about 25 alderscum and you can save around THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS more...
Yeah sure. They tried putting the house mice back on the street but it never happened. Check out 019. Mice hidden every where. Fake foot posts, office people on the streets only on paper, two tact sec.'s hidden, fake bike patrols for office people. Etc. Etc. This is going on everywhere just ask the watch guys that work the streets all day.
Sometimes I just get so scared about the future. Anyone else?
Get the trained ET's and PFI's on the street doing what they have been trained to do and what they are being paid to do!
Here in 019 we have 5 extra bodies in one......that's right our XO, he's THE commander, an Inspector, a WC, field Lt. and a Sgt. all in one.......... lucky us.........
I wrote on the Scum times site on this article and need to repeat it. Those 292 officers were not the cause of those 506 homicides nor could they have prevented them. Bad parenting and a lax criminal justice system are the only problems this city has beyond its elected officials. Also, the new limited duty program started at ARS is losing about 100 officers. Yet a new order just came out saying send more calls to ARS. More work, less officers. Just the way Rahm likes it.
It won't matter what the IG or Rahm wants. This will just mean there will be more people working inside that's all. The same P.O.'s will be inside working along side the new civilians that get put inside. Nothing will change.
P.O.that likes to fuck with the bangers and dope boys,but won't be doing so anymore.
Welcome to a stress free life. Its only a job now
I guess no more compstat. Thats how many put togeter the info for Mc and his henchmen to grill the commanders about their stats. If you think Mc and henchmen know this stuff off the top of their heads (like they are all knowing) for get about it. They take the Evelyn Wood speed reading version of the information and questions for the commanders compiled by the 200 officers in the Comstat office to make themselves gods of the all knowing! I say McFraud!
Not sure about those state laws that require po's to do certain duties. Civilians have done all the jobs as backgrounds checks, fingerprints, etc They work in identification section and work directly with records
1/24/2013 02:17:00 AM
Yep and how many of those people have expunged their own records, or have been fired (then rehired and promoted) for selling rap sheets to their banger friends? Oh about half!
Remember the last time? When the reverends sent in Jeff Fort's family in for jobsa in ident and criminal histories became missing.
>>>Anonymous said...
Get rid of XO's and their pay, put them back to rank title and pay. That would save millions right there.
1/24/2013 03:04:00 AM<<<
A Captain as XO just makes Captain's pay.
Remember that Hatchetman McNumbnuts is here to take money away from cops so that Rahm can pay for "New Americans" and Bike Lanes and Maggie Daley Park.
No promotions, no raises, maybe no medical benefits, anything Rahm can take from us to fuel his socialist agenda.
Check out the civilian children from Model Cities Program they hired for the summer 5 years ago who sold P.O.'s Social Security info to the ID/thief/thugs. Happened to me and others.
(pic) Rahm ridin' the CTA Brown line. What a mug. Crime is down
- Off Topic -
Thoughts on this:
Lt. Gov. forming working group on concealed carry
http://www.pantagraph.com/news/state-and-regional/illinois/government-and-politics/lt-gov-forming-working-group-on-concealed-carry/article_e99f5e58-65d5-11e2-a377-001a4bcf887a.html
Pushing paper?
How about pushing the pedals!
My district on 3rd watch has 4-5 bike patrol officers.
Hello...it's January and freezing cold!
Have these officers start pushing beat cars!!!
This is entertaining. Rahm discussion on Reddit and that CTA photo of him riding the CTA
Who are they kidding? Desk crew are like bad pennies, they keep turning up. They just change the title on the sheets from desk to foot patrol, station security, training, etc. Our desk still has 4-5 house mice inside even since Mctrendy took over.
there is between 7 to 10 officer working upstairs in the Commander office at almost all districts.. We need the front desk Officers..
There are still so many that worked inside their whole career and still do. Hidden. When units disband they find another hole.
Please tell me why the city doesn't offer these jobs to retired POs. Make them part time, no health insurance required. Put a different patch on their blue shirts. Nice if they could carry through IROCC too for more station security. Bet you'ld have a lot of interest, between pension problems, and people that still wanted to work in the department but could not take the street crap anymore. Most retired coppers would be better than the revruns' gangbangers!!! It would beat doing some crap security job for some extra bucks.
Retired 2010
But not for me
Anonymous said...
Everybody who came on this job knew they were coming as police officers not nurses, clerks, or accountants so don't start crying now that your cushy job is over. If you wanted to be any of the above you should have stayed in the private sector.
1/24/2013 12:10:00 AM
I disagree. How many recruits are hired with the intentions of a inside job courtesy of daddy or mommy? In the past veterans were rewarded with inside jobs in their last few years. Now the inside jobs, commander's perssonal crew consist of full time females answering phones and typing letters. Nothing sensitive. Or a full time 3 year wonder as a time keeper? Why are the majority of inside officers female? Makes one wonder. Maybe Joe Ferguson could inspect the exempt staff for hidden full time officers.
Go to Area 1 and see how many people "work for the Commander" doing absolutely nothing while the rest of the detectives are swamped. No wonder everyone is bidding out of here. The area where the useless are protected and hidden.
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You got to A/3 and we are glad to not hear anymore of your crying! Even people who are nice to you think you act like a little girl. Grow up and be happy you are gone cuz we are!
A/1 V.C. Det
Last class to graduate from the academy.......a whopping 50 new officers. We sure are catching up to the amount retiring monthly......not.
How many times can we do " the big clean out?"
No matter how many spots get eliminated a good % of those bodies wind up back inside in some kind of spot again.
Every boss is guilty of hiding people inside that should really be on the street. Do you think that'll ever change just because of the IG and Rahm? Highly unlikely.
The spots that are protected under the contract are the ones that really can't/shouldn't be eliminated : district desk officer etc.
How about trimming the fat with the security details for the politicians ?
Speaking of security details what about the bloated security at HQ? Those lazy pricks have it set up where they don't have to help any walk ins that come in to make out police reports. They send anyone who comes in wanting a police report over to the 009 th district . WTF? How do they get away with this?
Not sure what state law you are referring to when you certain tasks need sworn officers ( backgrounds, histories etc). I dont think that exists. I am sure the department could take safeguards for this if they wanted to. And, you are correct when you say some gold stars are covering up the use of sworn officers in admin positions. The city would have to retrofit the district desks if they are going to add more civilians to the desk crews. But, maybe that would be a good thing ; protect the workers and people might get better and more polite service ?
whats up why havent you did a article about the man that worked in the dept that writes up police dept complaints from the public going into the city building located at 1650 west chicago last week and trying to kill three co workers and this bosses its found in the tribune paper under police/city worker acused of threatening to kill public offical . we want to know what happened
Anonymous said...
How many are working in the compstat unit?
1/24/2013 06:18:00 AM
Don't forget to count the few hundred in Deployment Operations Section, Crime Strategy, Records Division.
Alternate Respsonse just ordered 175 desks/chairs to accomodate the limited duty dumped out of HQ
Send me back to the street. I don't give two fucks. The nice thing is I'll do less work and bump some hair jells off VRI.
Let that midget rham hire his own security patrol can use some of the useless po's from the detail especially the affirmative action poster boy commander can't wait till Webb gets him and he gets dumped
If everyone but me would take a pay cut, the city could save a lot of money. I do most of the work anyway.
There are too many dogs on this department. I'm not doing shit anymore!
It's not just HQ, this exists on the district level too. 024 has three Tact secretaries! LT has to dig deep into those pockets on secretaries day.
Anonymous said...
Do we really need a Marine Unit? Is their budget available for public viewing? How much revenue do they generate? Do they ever arrest anyone?
Taxpayer
1/24/2013 08:49:00 AM
No... and we probably don't need a military either.
Do they kill anyone?
Troll
Anonymous said...
Do we really need a Marine Unit? Is their budget available for public viewing? How much revenue do they generate? Do they ever arrest anyone?
Taxpayer
1/24/2013 08:49:00 AM
Does this answer your question?
The Chicago Park District's 9 lakefront harbors stretch from Lincoln Park in the northern part of the city to Jackson Park in the south. With accommodations for more than 5,000 boats, these harbors constitute the nation's largest municipal harbor system and feature state-of-the-art floating docks, moorings, star docks, fuel facilities and other amenities for Chicago boaters and their guests. The harbors are currently managed by Westrec Marinas of Encino, California in partnership with the Chicago Park District.
LT A.S. in 024 is a good boss, no bullshit. If you're doing your job she will not hurt you. If you're not, we'll then you deserve her wrath.
I disagree. How many recruits are hired with the intentions of a inside job courtesy of daddy or mommy? In the past veterans were rewarded with inside jobs in their last few years. Now the inside jobs, commander's perssonal crew consist of full time females answering phones and typing letters. Nothing sensitive. Or a full time 3 year wonder as a time keeper? Why are the majority of inside officers female? Makes one wonder. Maybe Joe Ferguson could inspect the exempt staff for hidden full time officers.
1/24/2013 02:05:00 PM
Do you want to work with one of them on the street? No, you'd beef about that too. Most are useless out there and usually cause more problems than they help.
Leave 'em inside, out of the way. Put them on the street and all you'll end up with is medical abuse or IOD's and a shot at a Disability Pension.
It's not fair, but nothing is. Not to mention they'll do what they've done for years and play with the sheets, holding down the dolly cars on "Special missions". Much ado about nothing. More fail from Rahmbo and McShithead.
Please tell me why the city doesn't offer these jobs to retired POs. Make them part time, no health insurance required. Put a different patch on their blue shirts. Nice if they could carry through IROCC too for more station security. Bet you'ld have a lot of interest, between pension problems, and people that still wanted to work in the department but could not take the street crap anymore. Most retired coppers would be better than the revruns' gangbangers!!! It would beat doing some crap security job for some extra bucks.
Retired 2010
But not for me
1/24/2013 02:04:00 PM
EXCELLENT idea! Just wonder how many would want to deal this Department right now...
Would be nice to hire ONLY Veterans, but we know Rham doesn't have that kind of integrity.
94% of the time people get shot and the offender is known there are no charges!
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20130124/chicago/most-shooters-chicago-dont-face-charges
Anonymous said...
Hahaha "we can save UP To $16 million dollars"
Is that like the $7 million dollars that was going to be generated by writing up pot tickets that has turned out to be only $280,000 or about 4% of that projection?
Pardon me Batman but if McMC put 500 more cops on the street and there's another 300 more cops that he forgot about... how efficient was his review in the first place?
As we all know this is all about efficiency, right?
Going from 500 to 800 more cops on the street is a 60% increase over the initial move.
Or maybe it's like the on-line state lottery ticket sales that also came in at about 96% below that estimate too?
Or like the million dollar violence interrupters that was going to free up resources that I don't think anyone has seen hide nor hair of since they cash their checks and you can correct me if I'm wrong.
1/24/2013 05:58:00 AM
They will go on the street only if they do not retire first thus reducing the overall numbers of sworn. Again.
Anonymous said...
Here in 019 we have 5 extra bodies in one......that's right our XO, he's THE commander, an Inspector, a WC, field Lt. and a Sgt. all in one.......... lucky us.........
1/24/2013 11:41:00 AM
Plus he's a PO/tact guy. He makes traffic stops and does contact cards, or rather he stops cars and orders someone else to do the contact card or write his bullshit tickets.
And he looks like Freddie Mercury, oooh, he looks so hot to the crowd at Roscoe/Halsted. What a man, what a man, what a mighty fine man.
whats up why havent you did a article about the man that worked in the dept that writes up police dept complaints from the public going into the city building located at 1650 west chicago last week and trying to kill three co workers and this bosses its found in the tribune paper under police/city worker acused of threatening to kill public offical . we want to know what happened
1/24/2013 03:33:00 PM
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-01-18/news/chi-police-city-worker-accused-of-threatening-public-officials-20130118_1_public-officials-three-co-workers-custody-today
1/24/2013 12:33:00 AM
Hey dummy, guess what? Others will still come in with numbers. So you and your ilk are fucked. Big time.
If you want management in 11 to give you more privileges then go out there and bust your ass.
Once the numbers improve things will get better. If the numbers don't improve then things will get worse.
1/24/2013 06:12:00 AM
Good grief. You just don't get it, do you? That's ok. When you cross over to the other side we'll still welcome you. Mushball.
Anonymous said...
How many are working in the compstat unit?
1/24/2013 06:18:00 AM
15-20, all mushes who haven't worked the street in years and years and years. I would rather have my fingernails pulled out one by one than sell my soul like that. And I work in a craphole. How can people do that? Maybe they got rid of all the mirrors in their house or something.
If you want management in 11 to give you more privileges then go out there and bust your ass.
Once the numbers improve things will get better. If the numbers don't improve then things will get worse.
1/24/2013 06:12:00 AM
Privileges? What privileges? I don't get no stinking privileges, nor do I want them. Like what? An early car? You're an idiot. Enjoy your privileges. Where do morons like you come from?
Why do all these retired guys want to come back and work with some other patch or do clericalwork etc?
Anonymous said...
Tony Riccio had 7 inside people where Walsh had 1. All have (the nicest) assigned vehicles where the rest of us have to fight for keys to a shitbox and get yelled at daily for a late list we have no control over.
1/24/2013 08:09:00 AM
Late list? I used to worry about mine. Not any more. They can kiss my ass. You give me 50 cases a month and expect me to get them done with printers that don't work, computers that don't work, and a system as slow as molasses? Not to mention days when we don't have any FUCKING PAPER! No color printers when you need them, expected to interview yesterday's shithead offenders who are today's victims by yourself.
Don't let the late list get to you. Just smile and say, "I'm working on it." And walk away. Don't let it affect your health. Not worth it.
Hey, let's hire the retired police officers to be crossing guards, if you have 30 years and retired and that is not enough. I am sure a few cold days on the school crossing would change your mind. Enjoy your retirement and thanks for your service!
Guy in area _____ works in office. Don't think he ever did one investigation--hasn't been on the street in years, truthfully don't think he ever was. But on paper he's assigned to property crimes in a district. Miserable f*ck to boot.
The point is, the Tutu will SAY he put more people on the streets. The sheets will reflect that. In actuality they will never see the inside of a squad car except when they make a lunch run.
SSDD is all. More hype to distract attention.
To those who complain about how many people are at HQ, please stop trying to start something you don't even know what your talking about. Yes there are some bosses that have their chosen few hidden, Compstat Unit is over staffed and they never go out on the street. Chief Tracy acts like he is the 1st Deputy and does whatever he wants because he one of the Supts guys. Second the units have been stripped Down so far there are not many places yet to cut before you start cutting efficiency. Another point, think about the majority of the civilians on this job, do you really want to being trying to get them to check something for you, of you find them there out front smoking usually. Parking at HQ sucks, but remember we have CFD, IAD, some specialized units, records, all the officer who are stripped doing clerical work, well I can go on and on but I don't know of many places you can cut. 4 years ago there were most 500 officers at HQ, now it's down to around 170, many of those spots you can eliminate for security reasons or specialized training. Those who complain I would like to see them go there and do the work and they will have a totally new respect for how much work these admin officers really do
Seems you dont know what you are talking about. If the jobs so hard at headquarters transfer out. As far as asking civilians to do something, most of the time they will do it before a sworn housecat that acts like shes doing you a big favor and that your interupting her ebay shopping on the computer. If they are down from 500 to 170 what does that tell you, the job is still getting done with 170, what was everyone doing when there was 500
I probably work more than what I remember working at the district. If I have to go back, I would be estatic not to do anything once again.
Area North needs all 6 people answering the phone! Oh yea don't look at the sheets. Ignore the fact they are assigned to districts and mission teams. Hey isn't that a false report?
170+ coming from Mass transit, unit is being shut down, handled by special employment and private sector ( digby's or Securitas ). The rumors of the move is to get rid off them now so the area teams can take over their office space now instead of later.
Anonymous said...
Not sure what state law you are referring to when you certain tasks need sworn officers ( backgrounds, histories etc). I dont think that exists. I am sure the department could take safeguards for this if they wanted to. And, you are correct when you say some gold stars are covering up the use of sworn officers in admin positions. The city would have to retrofit the district desks if they are going to add more civilians to the desk crews. But, maybe that would be a good thing ; protect the workers and people might get better and more polite service ?
1/24/2013 03:15:00 PM
Yeah, better - like the Post Office, right?
Hey Sgt PC from 019, why don't you stay off the blog? You are in enough trouble for all of the shit you started. You are being watched on the computer at the healthclub. You know, the place you use for a home because the dept hasn't fired your ass for being a drunk. Get over it already!
Anonymous said...
How will there be a cost savings if these civilians aren't currently employed by the city?
If you replace a copper with a civilian the coppers salary is still on the books cause you have moved him not fired him.
Then you have to hire a civilian to take his place. How the Hell could that be considered a cost savings when you're actually adding to the payroll??
1/24/2013 05:18:00 AM
They'll be able to hire less police and play that old "there are more cops on the street" record. New hire civilians are perfect. Most of them won't stay long enough to retire and they're much easier to dispose of. It will cut personnel expenses, not from what they are now, but what they would be. Plus instead of putting a maxed out old dog on the desk they can keep him barely breathing in the beat car for police presence and pay somebody who'll only stick around for 2-3 years much less to work the desk. Presto..magic!
Anonymous said...
Do we really need a Marine Unit? Is their budget available for public viewing? How much revenue do they generate? Do they ever arrest anyone?
Taxpayer
1/24/2013 08:49:00 AM
I'm not a Marine Unit officer, but you, sir, are an idiot. We are the second largest department in the United States and most of our city borders an inland, freshwater sea. The marine unit earns its pay every time they have to jump into a frozen lake or murky river to recover a body or evidence or even to save from drowning an asshole like you.
In short, go fuck yourself.
I can't wait until we do the same thing in 2014.
Let the house mouse out of the cage for a few months, bring it back in, then set it free next year and count it twice.
Anonymous said...
This is entertaining. Rahm discussion on Reddit and that CTA photo of him riding the CTA
1/24/2013 01:19:00 PM
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Love all the comments on Reddit about how weak his handshake is. Figures ...
whats up why havent you did a article about the man that worked in the dept that writes up police dept complaints from the public going into the city building located at 1650 west chicago last week and trying to kill three co workers and this bosses its found in the tribune paper under police/city worker acused of threatening to kill public offical . we want to know what happened
1/24/2013 03:33:00 PM
we who?
you and your evil, literate twin?
(pic) Rahm ridin' the CTA Brown line. What a mug. Crime is down
1/24/2013 12:51:00 PM
that can't be the cta, everyone has pants on.
Why do police officers assigned to legal affairs get Lt's pay? Why does our FOP make captains pay or commanders pay? Lets start saving some money there.
Sometimes I just get so scared about the future. Anyone else?
1/24/2013 11:36:00 AM
just think about the absolute certainty of death, reassess what matters to you, then open a fresh bottle of jack, and ride the wave.
it's all a fucking adventure.
Knock off about 25 alderscum and you can save around THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS more...
1/24/2013 11:31:00 AM
i surely hope you mean this literally.....
Chalkie
No Officer with less than 25 years should be hiding in or under the commanders desk .
1/24/2013 09:08:00 AM
no officer with 25 years could fit under any desk.
Do we really need a Marine Unit? Is their budget available for public viewing? How much revenue do they generate? Do they ever arrest anyone?
Taxpayer
1/24/2013 08:49:00 AM
are you looking to dump a few bodies in the lake, this hunting season?
Police board fired a PO for writing on bathroom walls.
When will people tire of socialist lies?
1/24/2013 08:16:00 AM
when they find the humility to face the fact that they've been fooled by miscreant riff raff, for decades.
....and then replace all Beat Officers
with neighborhood watch citizens that work for free.The City will save Milllions
1/24/2013 07:21:00 AM
works for me.
Chalkie
Is there really a new civilian assistant director to the civilian director of HR. Who is she, where did she come from?
Really, do you want career secretaries with guns on the street. They cause more problems than they solve. And watch out if they pull out their pistols, don't want to be anywhere near that.
whats up why havent you did a article about the man that worked in the dept that writes up police dept complaints from the public going into the city building located at 1650 west chicago last week and trying to kill three co workers and this bosses its found in the tribune paper under police/city worker acused of threatening to kill public offical . we want to know what happened
1/24/2013 03:33:00 PM
Seriously, is English your first language? No, disregard; it obviously isn't. Why not re-post when you can convey one coherent thought?
yawwwnnn, good. time to hit the street 10 year dollys who have been inside for 7 of those years... or to the 28 year dollies who have been inside for 20 of those years. Hey, be sure to bring out your mover and parker books... we want activity. ahahahahahahah. too bad. welcome to the party. Hopefully you can at least get a few days off here or there on the weekend. aahahahahahahah
Everybody who came on this job knew they were coming as police officers not nurses, clerks, or accountants
You OBVIOUSLY don't know how clout works, do you, kid?
Anonymous said...
How will there be a cost savings if these civilians aren't currently employed by the city?
If you replace a copper with a civilian the coppers salary is still on the books cause you have moved him not fired him.
Then you have to hire a civilian to take his place. How the Hell could that be considered a cost savings when you're actually adding to the payroll??
1/24/2013 05:18:00 AM
It's a cost savings because the relocated p.o. is replacing one higher-salaried retiree who just left. ;-)
"Luckily for Supernintendo McCMario the weather has slowed the killings."
Weather has nothing to do with it!
McCarthy's strategy is working!
(Uh, what strategy, exactly are we using now?)
rb
Over 50 retiring monthly,and yes hire retired, at least you can trust they know a little more about the job than civilians,remember Rhammy wants to divide and conquer,shortening our numbers, frustrating us by cutting,those on the street frustrated running constantly to the point of being jealous of anyone inside,now exposing the jealousy on this blog,telling on each other like children,let me tell you,I'm glad I just retired,and haven't given police work a second thought,but do wish working officers a better future!
But lots of those house mouses are scared to go back on the street.
Don't be jealous. My clout will save me.
This is still Chicago, dummy.
"Do we really need a Marine Unit? Is their budget available for public viewing? How much revenue do they generate? Do they ever arrest anyone?"
Dear Taxpayer;
Yes. Chicago has miles of lakefront and navigable waterways, not to mention water cribs that provide drinking water to Chicago and many suburbs.
Yes. Look on-line.
The police department is not in place to produce revenue, but to enforce the law and prevent crime.
Yes.
019 still has two tact secretaries? WTF?
Expect screams and crying from all the clout babies that have spent their entire careers inside.
Expect to pity the poor souls that get stuck with these "Inside Wonders" that don't actually know how to be the police.
And expect screams and crying from a-holes like you, when my clout gets me back inside.
You new here, kid?
It won't matter what the IG or Rahm wants. This will just mean there will be more people working inside that's all. The same P.O.'s will be inside working along side the new civilians that get put inside. Nothing will change.
That's the spirit! There ARE people on this department who have connections more powerful than Rahm.
This IS Chicago.
You sure it wasn't a bait & switch? Jack up the number of officers there by 20 percent then 'cut' them by 10 percent to show a reduction?
Desk crew are like bad pennies, they keep turning up. They just change the title on the sheets from desk to foot patrol, station security, training, etc. Our desk still has 4-5 house mice inside even since Mctrendy took over.
Now THIS man has an idea how clout works!
Welcome to Chicago.
She came from Obama, worked on his campaign and had a position with him
If everyone but me would take a pay cut, the city could save a lot of money. I do most of the work anyway.
Yes you do! Look for a little something extra in your check on the 1st!
District 010 location 3315 W. OGDEN AVE Chicago, IL 60623 Commander "La Pena's" office there are 11 police officers and 1 sergeant assigned to each desk job. Solution: take each desk job outside of the commander's officer and replace each police officer and sergeant with a newly hired civilian! Follow this direction with the police officers assigned to desk job on the first floor I.e. desk jobs, tactical office secretary, community policing office, and school officers. Savings over 1 million dollars per year plus more man power plus higher morale for the POLICE and for the residents.
Do you want to work with one of them on the street?
No, and they don't want the job that the inside guy's got either.
They just want to bitch about it.
Do we really need a Marine Unit? Is their budget available for public viewing? How much revenue do they generate? Do they ever arrest anyone?
Taxpayer
1/24/2013 08:49:00 AM
The day you're out there drowning, why don't you reflect on your post (above) while you pray to be saved by that unit you find so unnecessary...
1/24/2013 09:33:00 PM
No pal...not new at all.
Just tired of all the Clout BS that is the main cause of this departments Ruination.
You want an Inside safe job? Transfer to the Aviation Police or Water Dept Police.
Otherwise, step up and actually EARN your 60k+ a year pay.
Only Cops inside besides the Exempts should be Medical Role cops doing the Desk work to keep the PO's that are lucky to still be healthy on the streets.
1/24/2013 01:10:00 PM
If the Revenue Strokes can ride bikes year round, so can you.
At least you get to pick and choose where you hide if your not on a call.
We actually have to work a full shift.
All the bosses are laughing their butts off. They don't care about this investigation about all the inside people they hide! They could care less. These PO's are doing all the work the supervisors are supposed to be doing. These PO's allow all the white shirts the liberty to hang out at home all day, shop, go out to eat with civilian friends they're trying to impress, or to study on duty! It's a joke. EVERY one of those PO's that were purged last time are right back inside. Get rid of the full duty PO's in the following "spots"...News Affairs, Human resources, Compstat, DOC, CIT, and turn the airports over to the Dept of Aviation. Then go the all the districts, areas, and units, and clean house on the admin spots. You'll come up with more than 300.
If this was true why is the Deployment Operations Center posting job opportunities on the daily bulletin. Most people who work for the DOC are useless idiots that have limited street experience yet they put out useless information telling the working police what is happening. The DOC should Do the department a favor and keep that tabloid information to themselves. I wouldn't want anyone from the DOC to be in the squad car or on the street, they might just shoot themselves in the foot.
Yeah sure. They tried putting the house mice back on the street but it never happened. Check out 019. Mice hidden every where. Fake foot posts, office people on the streets only on paper, two tact sec.'s hidden, fake bike patrols for office people. Etc. Etc. This is going on everywhere just ask the watch guys that work the streets all day.
019...led (formerly) by the clueless Kenny (isn't he now a deputy chief?). The incompetent continue to rise to their level of incompetence!
In 003 there are 13 officers assigned to the commander's office with two secretaries in the xo's office. The XO is unfriendly, doesn't even speak and is a complete a_ _. The district is a big joke.
Not the first time I've heard WBBM radio and Channel 9/Trib pushing "dnainfo."
Today bbm was blowing "dnainfo is breaking a tremendous story, 96% of shootings in Chicago are completely unsolved by police."
Given the number of uncooperative, individuals, groups, famblys, whole blocks of people who din see nuthin, this is hardly surprising.
This dnainfo was really anti-police when I looked at it before, and it repeated one "neighborhood story" about eight times all over the site to flesh it out some. It is another crappy "neighborhood" weblog...but...
There is some REALLY big money behind this -- they have been buying sponsored search results (top and bottom of page) on Google, etc.
"J. Joe Ricketts (born July 16, 1941) is the founder, former CEO and former chairman of TD Ameritrade, one of the largest online discount brokerages in the world, based in Omaha, Nebraska...Ricketts owns and operates several early stage companies, including DNAinfo.com, The American Film Company, High Plains Bison, and The Lodge at Jackson Fork Ranch."
"Ricketts is married with four children, Tom, Pete, Laura and Todd. In 2009, Ricketts ranked #371, according to Forbes magazine, of the 400 wealthiest Americans, with a net worth of $1 billion. He currently resides in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
"In October 2009, the Ricketts family acquired a 95 percent controlling interest in Major League Baseball’s Chicago Cubs and Wrigley Field, as well as 20 percent of Comcast Sportsnet Chicago. The Ricketts family represents the eighth ownership group in the 133-year history of the team. While Ricketts is not directly involved in the team’s operations, his son, Tom Ricketts, is Cubs chairman and his three other children (Pete, Laura and Todd) are on the board of directors...
"His son is on the Republican National Committee. His daughter, Laura Ricketts, is a lesbian activist and prominent bundler for Obama..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Ricketts
This stinks.
All aspects and I mean all should be done by sworn police personal. Putting civilians in any position in the Dept. is just patronage.
To the poster in 010. You mean to tell me the only reason you worked was so you could leave the district to eat lunch... Hahaha come on. You probably never worked and are searching for a reason to do nothing and be a dog, whatever helps you sleep at night pal.
Anonymous said...
Is there really a new civilian assistant director to the civilian director of HR. Who is she, where did she come from?
1/24/2013 08:26:00 PM
She was found at a tattoo and piercing party following a rave in a west side warehouse. She was on X and thought working for her sister in spirit would be great. She sometimes has trouble when she gets a runny nose with snot blowing out through her nose ring hole.
Anonymous said...
Why do police officers assigned to legal affairs get Lt's pay? Why does our FOP make captains pay or commanders pay? Lets start saving some money there.
1/24/2013 07:33:00 PM
They are lawyers and last time I checked it was sgt's pay. Might have changed. Law school is expensive.
Why do Rahm's body guards get Sgt's pay is a better question and why does the sergeant in charge (1 of 2) get commander's pay. Oh, I forgot, they get paid a lot to cover up and lie about attempted murder by the mayor's kid, Patrovski.
When R.M. Daley was a wild one the detail got him out of at least one DUI accident and brought him home. That's why they make the big money.
Now that the junior Daley is looking for all the world like a Russian mobster I don't know who keeps him out of trouble. Maybe Boris or Sergei.
Don't forget a lot of those insiders are limited duty. You have to sift out the bs from the real ones.
Anonymous said...
Do we really need a Marine Unit? Is their budget available for public viewing? How much revenue do they generate? Do they ever arrest anyone?
Taxpayer
1/24/2013 08:49:00 AM
We have fought these battles before. This is not a for profit company. If it were it would have gone BK long ago.
The City has thousands of private boats docked in the various harbors. The water gets police protection like the land. People do stupid things with boats. They fall in the water, hit concrete breakwalls and set their boats on fire and run out of fuel.
The city charges for some of those services, like breakdown/tow to harbor, out of gas and some others.
They also have security and law enforcement functions. OWI, that's DUI in a boat. Safety inspections. Speeding within the harbor. When I was there a guy got conked in the head by a swinging boom on a sailboat. He was a doctor and eventually died, the Marine Unit was the first emergency Unit on the scene.
The Marine Unit is the only emergency response teams on the lake except for a couple of fire boats.
They dive for evidence anywhere someone can toss a gun or other criminal evidence in the drink. Once they find something that might be evidence they take custody and inventory same as they are sworn police and frequently testify in court.
Did you think of asking the same question about the helicopter unit? They give rides, three for $10, around downtown and for an extra fee they toss extreme BASE Jumpers out of a speeding police help. Wicked fun I hear.
ERPS is cut to the bone. They can't even keep up with all the work. No wonder why things are getting lost.
Where are they gonna get the 300?
150 OF THEM ARE COMING FROM THE 012 DISTRICT SUPERBID COMING IN MARCH!!!
That's right kiddies... starting in March or ending in March 100 to 150 of these new "street cops" are gonna be all the kids cut from the bottom of the combining of 012 & 013.
250 will be the new magic number of officers in 012.
So in reality, they're only gonna need another 150 from downtown to make up the "300 inside spots" they claim they're gonna get.
Nice while it lasted in 012 kids, the ride is over.
Enjoy 006 and anywhere else the animal runs amok because that's where you're going.
No way are they moving PO's. Crime is way up along with shootings in 012. They need all of those Po's. 012 is huge now.
No confidents Mccarthy and shields...
Anonymous said...
Do we really need a Marine Unit? Is their budget available for public viewing? How much revenue do they generate? Do they ever arrest anyone?
Taxpayer
1/24/2013 08:49:00 AM
The day you're out there drowning, why don't you reflect on your post (above) while you pray to be saved by that unit you find so unnecessary...
1/24/2013 09:55:00 PM
So agree. The first thing a drowning person does is fight you--not on purpose, but it's a battle to save someone in a panic. No, I don't work in the unit, but was a lifeguard--it's not easy. And I don't want to try to tread water with a lung full of water while CPD calls the state police or someone. Yeah, maybe a clout unit, but you try jumping in the water in the dark in the worst circumstances imaginable. They have my respect. It would be idiotic for a city on the water not to have a marine unit--seriously? You can hate them, but man, if you're ever in the water fighting for your life, you won't hate them any more!
Anonymous said...
whats up why havent you did a article about the man that worked in the dept that writes up police dept complaints from the public going into the city building located at 1650 west chicago last week and trying to kill three co workers and this bosses its found in the tribune paper under police/city worker acused of threatening to kill public offical . we want to know what happened
1/24/2013 03:33:00 PM
Seriously, is English your first language? No, disregard; it obviously isn't. Why not re-post when you can convey one coherent thought?
1/24/2013 09:00:00 PM
Amen. I thought I just didn't understand because I was drunk.
Anonymous said...
No Officer with less than 25 years should be hiding in or under the commanders desk .
1/24/2013 09:08:00 AM
no officer with 25 years could fit under any desk.
1/24/2013 07:45:00 PM
I can still fit under there, but muthafucka dentures keep falling out!
Anonymous said...
Sometimes I just get so scared about the future. Anyone else?
1/24/2013 11:36:00 AM
just think about the absolute certainty of death, reassess what matters to you, then open a fresh bottle of jack, and ride the wave.
it's all a fucking adventure.
1/24/2013 07:35:00 PM
OMG, I love you! Are you single? I'll ride a Jack wave with ya!
Why worry about the officers at HQ ?
While they are taking our pension and
healthcare ????????
Diversions
And he looks like Freddie Mercury, oooh, he looks so hot to the crowd at Roscoe/Halsted. What a man, what a man, what a mighty fine man.
1/24/2013 04:58:00 PM
Hey, don't insult Freddie Mercury. He WAS cool. Was reading Rod Stewart's book, and when he hung out with Mercury and Mick Jagger, he said they should start a new band called "Hair, Lips and Teeth." Don't diss Freddie. He was awesome, no matter from which side of home plate he swung the bat!
Do we really need a Marine Unit? Is their budget available for public viewing? How much revenue do they generate? Do they ever arrest anyone?
Taxpayer
1/24/2013 08:49:00 AM
I don't know,maybe you should ask the 37 people who are still walking on GOD's green earth, after they where saved by the Chicago police marine unit just last year alone.
Anonymous said...
LT A.S. in 024 is a good boss, no bullshit. If you're doing your job she will not hurt you. If you're not, we'll then you deserve her wrath.
1/24/2013 04:35:00 PM
And incurring her wrath could be as simple as forgetting to call her "lieutenant." Believe me on that one.
Anonymous said...
Tony Riccio had 7 inside people where Walsh had 1. All have (the nicest) assigned vehicles where the rest of us have to fight for keys to a shitbox and get yelled at daily for a late list we have no control over.
1/24/2013 08:09:00 AM
Late list? I used to worry about mine. Not any more. They can kiss my ass. You give me 50 cases a month and expect me to get them done with printers that don't work, computers that don't work, and a system as slow as molasses? Not to mention days when we don't have any FUCKING PAPER! No color printers when you need them, expected to interview yesterday's shithead offenders who are today's victims by yourself.
Don't let the late list get to you. Just smile and say, "I'm working on it." And walk away. Don't let it affect your health. Not worth it.
1/24/2013 05:19:00 PM
So can either one of you explain to me what's so great about being a detective? It sounds terrible yet all I ever hear is that it's the greatest job in the department. What makes it so great? It seems like you're completely overworked for a small raise. Do you even get to spend time with your families?
the more i read and think of this article and the problem in question it looks to me like what a lot have suggested.
hire back the retired officers in some capacity, they know the routine
they know the neighborhoods and they
have the experience with dealing the B/S
i know some thing it would be "i remember we did like this and few might not like that.
but in same breath one could say also that quite a few of them forgot more about policing then most know
Anonymous said...
Where are they gonna get the 300?
150 OF THEM ARE COMING FROM THE 012 DISTRICT SUPERBID COMING IN MARCH!!!
That's right kiddies... starting in March or ending in March 100 to 150 of these new "street cops" are gonna be all the kids cut from the bottom of the combining of 012 & 013.
250 will be the new magic number of officers in 012.
So in reality, they're only gonna need another 150 from downtown to make up the "300 inside spots" they claim they're gonna get.
Nice while it lasted in 012 kids, the ride is over.
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That "super bid" crap of 150 coming from 012 is likely bullshit. People said the same thing about 019 and there has been and will be no superbid in 019. Granted no one has been able to bid in or get in without outside assistance. More likely the same thing will happen in 012, you can get out but not in.
"Not true, what about detention aides. They have access to all the same info as a sworn po working the lock up. Civilians working in almost every section of the CPD also have access to that sensitive information. In the youth division civilians post and work with juvenile histories as well as the youth officers."
--Yup, kind of like the detention aide at Area 2 that was sleeping in a bed with female target of search warrant in suburbs. No big deal, just ol girl had a .357 under her pillow and a large scale on her dresser covered in cocaine and bundles of money all over the house.
Anonymous said...
Parking at HQ has been awful for all the officers supposedly not there anymore. I know we share it with CFD now, but the parking is ridiculous.
1/24/2013 12:17:00 AM
Use that lifetime free CTA pass in your pocket. Cops in NYC use their equivalent all the time. It is free, green and reduces your carbon footprint. You know, global warming type shit.
Police here used to go to work regularly on the bus or El. Get back to that. Did I mention it is free?
Why does our FOP make captains pay or commanders pay? Lets start saving some money there.
1/24/2013 07:33:00 PM
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They get paid by the FOP.
(Your dues)
They DO NOT get paid by the city.
If you do not like being in a union, QUIT and become a "fair share" member.
When the wonderful city accuses you of something you did not do,
you can hire your own attorney for $20,000 a pop.
To the whiner about 003 that district has always been a joke because of all of the crybaby msf tru dumps over there
im hearing about another big security breach at the desk thats gonna be huge news when it leaks out if not on the blog then elsewhere
More evidence of the fine quality of police officers there lol
And even though the xo isnt touchy feely,he has helped a few PO s out and pushed through awards
He aint officer friendly like the last xo capt kj but at least stuff is getting done I hear that,there is like a backlog of 200 cr spars and awards from helm and capt kj
I left and went to a unit but if I was still in 003 I would focus on being the police and backing my fellow officers instead of worrying about a bunch of housemouse about to lose their spots from what I know about the two desk incidents that district is gonna be renamed after Jodi weiss.
By the way while
I didnt count thirteen PO s in the front office I do,see a bunch of civilians and some sickly PO s along with close to two hundred lazy and or cowardly PO s
PO Crossing Guard Supervisors Off for Super Bowl
Anonymous said...
No confidents Mccarthy and shields...
1/25/2013 03:55:00 AM
Good Grief Charlie Brown! We're DOOMED! No confidents? Seriously? God help us.
Hey Mr. Inspector...why not empty out all those federal task force clout babies while you're at it...must be at least 3 dozen or so hiding out there, you know like the ex-partners of the sons of former superintendents and that ilk. I mean if the real goal here is to get more feet on the street, and not just chase away 20 year plus veterans.
150 officers from 012? What are you smokin? Maybe dump some tact officers, I can see that. But as far as the beat cars go, just say you take 50 officers from each watch, we would all be 99 units. Nice scare tactics, but you don't know what your talking about.
I didn't come on this job to do police work. I was clouted in from the start and will continue to hide in the Crime Lab with my girlfriends.
Funny... Every time Edgar Bergen Emanuel and Charlie McCarthy talk about more bodies moved to the street, they forget to tell the public one little thing. All those bodies moved to the street are scared of their own shadow, frighteningly inept, or so bitter they refuse to do their job.
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