Violence Reduction Initiative Expanded
Running seven days a week now?
Up to 200 spots on the weekends, day and night shifts.
Our best guess is that this is costing around $1 million per week including officers, sergeants and lieutenants.
Any idea where Rahm is finding the money for this? Did that money tree finally sprout on the roof of City Hall?
Up to 200 spots on the weekends, day and night shifts.
Our best guess is that this is costing around $1 million per week including officers, sergeants and lieutenants.
Any idea where Rahm is finding the money for this? Did that money tree finally sprout on the roof of City Hall?
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
74 Comments:
thought this was fed subsidized ??
I don't care where they get the money... Pay me! I love working my rdo's for time and a half, I plan on making an extra 25k take home this year.
What total bullshit that the Detectives are not allowed to work this. It has nothing to do with the money as a 25 year D2 earns more then a 15 year D2A! So unfair and no one gives a shit!
haha. it's like a shoebox of money was found. Yet they still have no clue.
Dear VRI....thank you... The xtra cash helps. Hope the new strategy works and this sticks around.
I was just listening to zone 6. Holding a "disturbance" for somebody "throwing rocks at the side of a house". 800 came up on the air and asked them to assign a VRI unit. Really? A Violence Reduction Unit for Romeo tossing rocks against Juliet's window? Wow. Must be that "broken windows" policing McNumbNutts brought her from New Yawk.
thank u mr president
"Up to 200 spots on the weekends, day and night shifts."
Which equates to: up to 200 sheep that are telling Rahm that they're fine with being walked on and having their contractually protected rights interpreted as the city sees fit.
Then there's the whole activity madate to work certain VRI hours. The department's always denied the existence of any quota or index, yet they spell out exactly what numbers you'll need to get on the VRI roster.
Many of you have been denied a day off, but you'll bend over backwards to work your RDO(s) for the same system that fucked you out of that family wedding or your kids' baseball game.
The city wants to limit you to working a maximum of 20 hours a week at your side job. And that's ONLY after you tell them where you'll be doing this side job. A side job that you'll be doing on YOUR OWN TIME. But they currently seem to have no problem with you working VRI on all of your days off. Not to mention any hours you may spend in court or on late jobs/arrests.
Wake up and see the hypocrisy, folks. While the money is good, and many absolutely need it for whatever reasons, you are little more than whores in uniform. You play right into the hands of the administration that has it's foot on your throat.
If Rahm has a million a week to spend on this, then he has enough loot to hire the officers needed to keep pace with attrition.
Oh ya baby, we don't need to hire more cops, just pay a million a week. LMFAO
maybe E.I. can buy a car now with all this VRI money and stop asking people for a ride to work.
Even at a million a week I'm saving compared to hiring the over 2, 000 people CPD is short. Keep signing up for special boys and girls, you make me and my puppet look like geniuses for continuing to keep costs down. I love you kids
Love,
Uncle Rahm
The hell with "broken windows." What about broken bottles, broken(-down) homes, etc. from all the Section 8 in what used to be the better parts of town?
hey Sherlock Holmes, you can always put in a PAR Form and return to rank of police officer. Now, you can join us in working all the overtime you wish for....
He has plenty of money shaking down business with his bullshit bldg. inspection with inspectors that are Daley stupid.
This goes to: I fart in the general direction
So worried about your side job when it only pays you shit. Don't be a retard and a hater, don't call people names. If people want to work VRI they should be able to. fuck the city let it burn maybe then they will give us even more ot and finally the young bucks that want to take advantage of VRI will finally be able to. Although I do find it unfair that detectives cant do it.
Remember there is always alot of money to be made when weak leaders/con artist bosses run out of answers/excuses to cover for incompetence.
It's obvious what direction the PO's are taking this dept.
Great, I love parking on the 6200 block of South May because all the hard charger VRI guys/gals like to park in the tiny lot reserved for GEU and Sat teams at 61st Racine. I'm sure the piss bums and mentals will keep an eye on my car for me. Maybe the city has already forgotten about P.O. Soderberg who was fucking ambushed in the lot there. This deployment should be out of Area South, not very safe having hundreds of PO's changing out of their trunk in around 61st Racine.
It is Great that this is not open to Detectives, because when Detectives work any form of Special they don't do shit! Just look at how little they do at CTA. I liked it better when they had to carry the same star as everyone else, because after all is said and done, they are still just patrolmen, with cheap suits.
This is where we need minimum staffing guidelines. More suckers to put into a failing pension.
seems if Tiny has $ for all this overtime , he has for benefits and the contract and to hire.
as for working a "side job", Remember
he was hinting that officers could do O/T in the Loop( security for the merchants who's taxes pay for police in the first place)and probably the schools too.it's NOBODY's business what one does in their off time.
( Tiny's spare job is working the The Baton Rouge show lounge)
Here is a question.....
Do we get paid retro (praying there is any) based on any VRI money we made? Just wondering.
Who cares where he's getting the money? I'd rather that million go to us then Cease Fire.
"What total bullshit that the Detectives are not allowed to work this. It has nothing to do with the money as a 25 year D2 earns more then a 15 year D2A! So unfair and no one gives a shit!"
Stop your crying, you lazy fucks have it easy enough! You jerkoffs milk the clock all the time! You never burn time and sit around doing nothing most of the time anyway! You want VRI? Go work the streets! It just shows you how spoiled you babies really are!
Yep, greedy cops. By playing off a police officers greed they don't have to hire more police.
Good thing the disbanded MSF and TRU. There was no use for those units... pffft!
I was told it is a Federal grant.
For all of you on here bragging how good the money is, you better stash that money away because all you are doing is hurting our pension fund. By working VRI, you are allowing the city a pass on hiring more officers and thereby allowing the city to by pass paying into the fund for those officers that were never hired.
The money looks good in the short term, but you are screwing yourselves and everyone else in the long term.
All the jag bags beating up the Sgts. for their contract are the same guys scabbing for the city on VRI.
Remember assholes, 2,000 unfilled spots not paying into the pension so you can lease that Lexus.
could it be from the police department budget that is about 3000 officers short--- at least he is spending it on police officers and not diamond studded rolexes and bruce lee's num chucks....
This is legit time and a half overtime by seniority!! Not security for cheap wages at a store or movie house. Not some undependable cash job that doesn't have insurance but a decent opportunity to make good money and be fully covered by the department if you get hurt.
It sounds to me the naysayers bitch because they can't get it. It's called seniority and if you don't have it now you will one day. We all were new at the beginning so just relax and wait your turn like the rest of us. When you're in a senior position you'll understand.
Anonymous said...
What total bullshit that the Detectives are not allowed to work this. It has nothing to do with the money as a 25 year D2 earns more then a 15 year D2A! So unfair and no one gives a shit!
How about we look at it this way. When you are doing followups on the street, you don't stop people and do contact cards, write tickets or Anovs or handle calls (read, below you), so it's really not unfair. But you want to do it for overtime...fughedabout it!
Anyone in the HR business can tell you that it is better to hire a current employee on their days off ( even with time and half) then to hire more full time employees. It is far cheaper and when the need is over you are not stuck with a lot of permanent employees.
I just dont understand why people think that working your days off for the department makes you a whore and a sucker? And, why should you care how many people the city hires? If they are paying overtime to work your regular job then why not? Every company in America does this. It is cheaper to hire back to complete the work then to hire more full time employees. And, the company, any company, can limit what you do on your free time. Many do not, but that does not mean that they cannot as a condition/contract of your employment. They can limit the type of work you do and the number of hours you do it. Work through your union ( you are lucky to have one) and try to get the best deal possible. But, some of you complain so often and so loud abut everything, I think that you should get another job or you will explode.
With all of the bitching about working conditions on this job it would be interesting in finding out what type of work all of these complainers did before they came on the department? They make it look and sound like they gave up the greatest job in the world to become cops?
We will never stand together. Rahm knows this and exploits it. We are DANGEROUSLY short. Stop working these "initiatives" and make the City hire police officers.
Your safety, our safety depends on it. Stop letting the poiticians mis-spend (steal) the taxes they collect.
This 'screw everyone else' mentality is going to kill this Country. Stick together and make Rahm raise our staffing to a safe level.
Which equates to: up to 200 sheep that are telling Rahm that they're fine with being walked on and having their contractually protected rights interpreted as the city sees fit.
Well there are a lot of constitutional attorneys who do not agree with you. If the pension matter goes to court the outcome is unpredictable. And, dont forget, there are plans afoot to put a referendum on the ballot in the next statewide election to change the pension funds. It can be done and people are mad enough and broke enough and afraid enough to vote for it.
Tiny Dancer is spending the savings from the Sergeants new agreement. He has already budgeted in the future savings into this year's budget.
What total bullshit that the Detectives are not allowed to work this. It has nothing to do with the money as a 25 year D2 earns more then a 15 year D2A! So unfair and no one gives a shit!
Give me a freaking break. How long you been on? How long you lived in chicago/shitcago? How long you walking around with your blinders on?
So unfair? WTF? Even though I agree with you that you should be allowed to work it, take your diaper off you cry baby. You make more money don't have to answer bullcrap domestic calls, you have a good spot and you prob dont do shit all day. Quit your crying and make some of your own overtime.
Life is unfair so deal with it. Nothing at all is FAIR on this crap department. No go hide in your nice cushy spot asshat. Hey wanna trade spots? Come take my spot on midnights in 011 and I will take your spot. I also have over 20 years and don't mind it in 011, best shithole spot in the dept, except for DSS on second watch.
Take the money. You deserve it.
Which equates to: up to 200 sheep that are telling Rahm that they're fine with being walked on and having their contractually protected rights interpreted as the city sees fit.
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You sir, are the sucker.
City Hall has asked the academy if they could put 2000 recruits thru this year if they had to.
The academy said it would be difficult.
THE BOTTOM LINE; the city is getting the money somewhere to pay for more police.
SO, until they are hired . .
I will take advantage of VRI and keep putting $17,500 @ year into my deferred comp !!
We should all make detectives pay! What do they really do? Suspended suspended suspended Does anyone really see them doing work other they when you call them. They could have an answering machine do there job for them. It would say leave a message at the beep and were not coming out beep
Stop whining, if I choose to work my day off what business is it of yours? Keep your opinions to yourself and worry about yourself. No one is making you work the vri, it's voluntary and probably won't be around forever...
obongo road in on the credit helicoptor, went over my roof so i was able to give him the salute he deserves.Why are Marines on his detail? Sounds like a job for Spetsnaz.Why do po-po sign up for these things? Let rham hire more po-po?
they have all this money for this but no money to hire all the cops we're short
Use this money to fund our pensions.
I can tell you EXACTLY where he found the money for it SCC...the police budget. We know staffing for police has been cut by over 1000 officers. Add to that all the retirements that have taken place compared to the amount hired and we are probably down over 2000 bodies. Running VRI is saving the city hundreds because they do not pay all the extra benefits they would have to if they hired more officers. Also, the city can send those officers anywhere they want to as needed. Lets face it VRI is a brilliant idea for the City.
"Up to 200 spots on the weekends, day and night shifts."
Which equates to: up to 200 sheep that are telling Rahm that they're fine with being walked on and having their contractually protected rights interpreted as the city sees fit.
Then there's the whole activity madate to work certain VRI hours. The department's always denied the existence of any quota or index, yet they spell out exactly what numbers you'll need to get on the VRI roster.
Many of you have been denied a day off, but you'll bend over backwards to work your RDO(s) for the same system that fucked you out of that family wedding or your kids' baseball game.
The city wants to limit you to working a maximum of 20 hours a week at your side job. And that's ONLY after you tell them where you'll be doing this side job. A side job that you'll be doing on YOUR OWN TIME. But they currently seem to have no problem with you working VRI on all of your days off. Not to mention any hours you may spend in court or on late jobs/arrests.
Wake up and see the hypocrisy, folks. While the money is good, and many absolutely need it for whatever reasons, you are little more than whores in uniform. You play right into the hands of the administration that has it's foot on your throat.
If Rahm has a million a week to spend on this, then he has enough loot to hire the officers needed to keep pace with attrition.
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Tell Em Steve Dave! If you guys were the real police you'd never sign up for special! So your wife's hours got cut & your a month behind on your underwater house?! So what?! Just put your kids in Morgan park high & stop being a scab! Every REAL policeman puts the job & his coworkers before his kids!
DIVIDE AND CONQUER. THESE GUYS WILL take the OT at time and a half but 12 years down the line when half the pension check is gone they will say HUH and scream like lil bitches. They run into roll call now and tell each other yea I got this day or that day VRI this month. Will come back to bite you kids. Talk to me after your first pension check-all of what is left. LOL
Well somebody has to violate 2nd Amendment rights out there. Go grab more guns for Rahm you tools.
Open this up to people who legitimately work inside and don't have a legitimate way to meet the biased criteria.
WOW!!! Spending all this money when they can just hire more cops!! But wait, Our Human Resource Director is so FUCKED up that she can't deliver the product because she keeps knocking out candidates for PYSCH tests because she doen't like the final outcome and breakdown of the folks testing!!!!!
I would rather see the police get this money than cease fire.
I just dont understand why people think that working your days off for the department makes you a whore and a sucker? And, why should you care how many people the city hires? If they are paying overtime to work your regular job then why not? Every company in America does this. It is cheaper to hire back to complete the work then to hire more full time employees. And, the company, any company, can limit what you do on your free time. Many do not, but that does not mean that they cannot as a condition/contract of your employment. They can limit the type of work you do and the number of hours you do it. Work through your union ( you are lucky to have one) and try to get the best deal possible. But, some of you complain so often and so loud abut everything, I think that you should get another job or you will explode.
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I'll tell you why dumb ass, because instead of hiring the 3,000 to 4,000 cops we're short, which means no one will be paying into your pensions you little stooge!
Right on Fart In Your Direction ( ???). You are 100 pct correct. This shit would not have flown 25 years ago of we were facing such dire straits. There's no such thing as CPD anymore, just a bunch of bitches out for themselves. I hate what this job has become.
Open this up to people who legitimately work inside and don't have a legitimate way to meet the biased criteria.
2/16/2013 04:48:00 PM
Why so you can drive around and bitch about this that and everything.
To 9:29 I have 20 yrs on so I have the seniority to work it, but I have figured out many other ways to invest my money over the years so I don't have to work on my days off. I didn't over extend myself. I didn't get divorced and I didn't by into the real estate bubble. I know you have to do it to send your kids to private school, go on nice vacations or save for college. All those things mean nothing if your not around to be a parent. Your probably one of those idiots that will sign any contract so you can get tha retro check so shortsighted pathetic
It is not a FEDERAL GRANT........
To the D2A scmuck who was crying about not being able to work VRI...FUCK YOU!! Every detective I know rubs in everyone's face how many hours of OT they made this period and how much they make each month. So now the tables are turned. Looking at the clearance rate of cases, you clowns should spend more time doing your real job and less time worrying about the working street coupons are doing...
If it helps out your family, who gives a sh..! Your family comes first. Stop being super cops and wake the f... up! Take advantage it while you can.
Anonymous said...
Who cares where he's getting the money? I'd rather that million go to us then Cease Fire.
2/16/2013 08:36:00 AM
Amen!!
Anonymous said...
Here is a question.....
Do we get paid retro (praying there is any) based on any VRI money we made? Just wondering.
2/16/2013 08:34:00 AM
Wow, you really must be living hand to mouth if you're worried about a measly couple of dollars.
Anonymous said...
We should all make detectives pay! What do they really do? Suspended suspended suspended Does anyone really see them doing work other they when you call them. They could have an answering machine do there job for them. It would say leave a message at the beep and were not coming out beep
2/16/2013 11:10:00 AM
With their case load (upwards of 20-30 new ones a week) there's very little time for proper investigations. If the victim doesn't answer the call the first time around, the dicks suspend the case and move on to the next one. This is especially true of property crimes dicks, who are getting buried.
And, don't forget that the ET's are so short, that the wait time (if you're even lucky to get one assigned) for a residential burglary is over 24 hours!!
Blame that on the "money saving" consolidation of the areas.
SO, until they are hired . . I will take advantage of VRI and keep putting $17,500 @ year into my deferred comp !!
2/16/2013 10:27:00 AM
SO, You put $1,450 a month, or $725 bimonthly, into deferred compensation because you work VRI??? Am I understanding this correctly??????
Sure. Tool.
Anonymous said...We should all make detectives pay! What do they really do? Suspended suspended suspended Does anyone really see them doing work other they when you call them. They could have an answering machine do there job for them. It would say leave a message at the beep and were not coming out beep
2/16/2013 11:10:00 AM
Detectives handle real crimes. They don't waste time coming out to your petty crap. I can see by your spelling and grammar that you are never going to make detective so I understand your jealousy. Now go get your shine box.
I hope FOP is taking notes on how many hours officers can work these various "side jobs."
If the city wants officers to work only 20 hours a week then maybe they should hire more officers.
And detectives not receiving overtime???
It is kinda of funny if a dick cannot figure out a way to make OT then may be they are not on the ball. I have never seen any supervisor ever say don't arrest and investigate a case!
As long as VRI runs, there will be less new hires. With OT and VRI, Rahm doesn't have to add to the pension, pay extra medical and training costs, and can claim he has more than enough cops to get the job done. I work it so I agree it's a good deal to make extra cash. However, it does nothing to get us the manpower we actually need.
If it helps out your family, who gives a sh..! Your family comes first. Stop being super cops and wake the f... up! Take advantage it while you can.
2/16/2013 11:04:00 PM
Because it doesn't help your family in the long run when your pension goes belly up. It doesn't help your family when you get killed because we are short handed.
Start thinking about the future. It gets here quicker than you think.
Open this up to people who legitimately work inside and don't have a legitimate way to meet the biased criteria.
2/16/2013 04:48:00 PM
How about this.... Just stop working inside. Not sure what you mean by "legitimately" but you can work a beat car any time.
Looking at the clearance rate of cases, you clowns should spend more time doing your real job and less time worrying about the working street coupons are doing...
2/16/2013 10:09:00 PM
WTF?
Anonymous said...
To the D2A scmuck who was crying about not being able to work VRI...FUCK YOU!! Every detective I know rubs in everyone's face how many hours of OT they made this period and how much they make each month. So now the tables are turned. Looking at the clearance rate of cases, you clowns should spend more time doing your real job and less time worrying about the working street coupons are doing...
2/16/2013 10:09:00 PM
And this my friend, is why you will NEVER make it to D1, D2, D3, D4, D5, D6.......Z10......or out of your blue shirt. You're a putz.
I don't know of ONE POLICE DEPARTMENT ANYWHERE that does not offer ot in the form of working extra shifts to its officers.. apparently some of you believe that all of us have 800 credit,live in our mothers basement where we dont have any bills and or have made every single financial decision in our lives correctly..I understand the shortsightedness of the ot as it relates to pensions but some officers need the money for family obligations etc...I hope those officers lambasting the officers who do work vri never get terminally sick, spouse loses a job, family member with no insurance gets ill, have an unforseen financial emergency...give the people who work it a break, not everyone is perfect living in their paid for home in 16...
all you old timers stick together and refuse to put in for vri.
Yours Truly: Five year wonder hoping to get some days
It is kinda of funny if a dick cannot figure out a way to make OT then may be they are not on the ball. I have never seen any supervisor ever say don't arrest and investigate a case!
Great point. If you are a working detective you should have no problem making arrests, getting overtime for them and the follow up court. On the other hand if you make detective go to a D unit and do nothing, you wont get overtime so quit bitching.
All of the working dets that I know dont want to work the VRI because they want some time off and have plenty of OT and Ct and arent looking for more work
Detectives handle real crimes. They don't waste time coming out to your petty crap. I can see by your spelling and grammar that you are never going to make detective so I understand your jealousy. Now go get your shine box.
I'm glad you said handle "real crime", cause Lord knows you don't solve "real crime" looking at your clearance rates. The laughing stock of major police departments.
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