30,000 Applicants?
- The Chicago Police Department is looking for thousands more people seeking to become police recruits before the deadline for applications later this month.
About 20,000 people have applied to become police officers since the beginning of August, but Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said Friday at a news conference that "I'd love to get it up to about 30,000." The deadline is Monday, Sept. 16.
"This is a great opportunity … to make a difference in people's lives," McCarthy said.
Police spokesman Adam Collins later clarified the number of applicants, saying about 18,000 people have at least begun the application process, and said the 30,000 number is not a firm target.
This guy counts applications exactly the opposite way he counts robberies in Boystown and wildings downtown. And as a reader pointed out, it's ironic as hell that Ladner is encouraging officers to have their family members test when she is doing everything in her power to deny family members of police a job.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
114 Comments:
Why would anyone want to apply to work for this department when you have an asshole mayor who fucks over the men and women who risk their lives everyday by refusing to negotiate a fair contract in a timely manner
This is just like Rahm talking about his favorite corporations heading up that Choose Chicago bullshit.
Oh-oh, they just can't find qualified candidates. A line used to encourage kids to go into debt and take college classes because there's a shortage.
There's a shortage all right. But who ya gonna believe? That Gary is looking to hire 30,000 new cops or that no new cops are going to be hired because Rahm wants to cut the force by 10%!
Can you say PROPAGANDA? I thought you could.
The only way 30,000 new cops are going to hit the street is if 30,000 old cops retire or quit.
Why do you need 30,000 people to take the test when you do not plan on hiring anyone?
how many will show for the test? how many can even beging to pass the background, drug and POWER tests?
18,000 will be pared down to about 2,000 really quick
Why does he want so many? Does he just get a kick out of getting people's hopes up, only to deny them. What a cruel ass wipe.
He will never hire 17,000 of the 18,000 applicants. I can't wait for M.C. to get his walking papers.
If I were looking for a job and know Mc Jersey was going to be my boss I would keep looking.
I would rather live with my parents. Thanks but no thanks!
When they are screened and given the lie detector test. Ask them if they are going to do some police work! Nothing but more jokes. How many are they really going to hire. More contracts for testing. Why not make it a million so someone can make lots of money with testing them. But to never hire more than one percent.
30,000 Applicants?
You delusional prick!
How about you and Twinkle-Toes stop mistreating and intentionally burning the 8 some thousand Officers you have at both ends?
Unholy jagoffs...
Everybody knows this job has been turned to shit and the days of 40k people SITTING to take the entrance exam are long fucking gone!
Hire 4000 coppers or this is just a bunch of fucking noise, distraction and bullshit.
2 man cars on every watch with 6 to 12 two and and three man REAL rapid response cars and two or three wagons or this is just a bunch of fucking noise, distraction and bullshit.
I remember once seeing the CPD recruitment pamphlet. It had a lot of pictures of shiny happy officers riding horse, handling canines and maning the marine unit boat, you know, all the jobs they'll never have without a phone call. It would have been far more honest to show a couple of old timers riding in a dirty, dilapidated pool car in the ghetto. Then there could be a close up picture showing the officer's expression of resignation and hopelessness.
Hold on, Im confused...
Last week McNumbnuts said that since crime is down, we don't need to hire more officers, and we're doing just fine with the amount we have.
Now, he wants 30K people to sign up for this?
It is ironic that Ladner is now encouraging Police family members to take the test now. She was caught trying to deny family members of Police Officers the job by disqaulifying them through the pych portion. She is now being sued because of this. She is now covering her tracks trying to show that she encourages Police family members to take the test. She did her best on the last test to deny jobs to Police family members and former military. She is going to cost the city plenty of money because of her tampering with the hiring process by disqaulifying Police family members and former military due to her hatred of both.
It's funny listening to the Mayor on the radio asking people to apply for CPD and stating how the age limitations are 18 and 35. I guess this shows just how much he cares about who really applies.
This is not a great opportunity to make a difference in peoples' lives. Don't believe a word from McCarthy or Emanuel.
The Chicago Police Department's management will treat you like shit.
When you are on probation for 18 months, you will spend about 10 months on FOOT patrol in shitty districts with little field training because you had to be in a car with and FTO and 2, 3 or 4 other ppos.
The only difference will be IN YOUR life as the department seeks more and more ways to fuck with you, while the mayor figures out ways not to pay you what you are due.
I will say this: if it the department was like this 20 years ago I never would have come on the job. I only see it getting worse for new police officers.
Thank goodness I am at the end of my career!!!
Don't do it !!!!
The money is good but you sacrifice your freedom and eventually your sanity.
This department is FUBAR.
ssc you hear this one first 12 hrs shifts are coming everyother weelend off will reduce over time n court cost this was started by reitired police of naperville dave im the greatest dial n we are next
9/06/2013 12:44:00 PM
Wtf is wrong with using periods? I think 12 hour days is just too much for this job. For guys like me who are fortunate enough to have bid out of 005 and am in a somewhat normal district, it's do-able. But this would be too stressful for the guys in 007, 011, etc. 10 hour days would be perfect if there is any incentive to save the city money. We're already doing 9 hour days, what's another hour? Compared to another 3!
You're right, maybe Naperville can work with this schedule, but not Chicago.
I also think this is a young man's game. With our pension mess and the talk of raising the ages, there should be inside spots available for the guys pushing 55+ on this job. If they so choose to work inside. All these young guys and girls who work inside should be ashamed of yourselves. You clouted kiss ass mother fuckers. I'm doing my time on the street. And if the revolver guy had enough of chasing pookie then I can take his place and new hires need to fill our shoes like a revolving door. Seemed to work that way in the 70's through 90's until Daley and Rham took over.
Where are the getting these numbers???
The best candidates will go to other Departments because they have better benefits including higher pensions (80 to 90% of salary); retiree health care (CPD proposes none); a real COLA; and an earlier retirement age (new hires must stay until 55).
CPD has since lowered their hiring standards and will fill their ranks accordingly.
Ancient dinosaur on streets here (right now). Here me out and clear. There will be a mass amount of scandals coming out of these hirings. The background checks are weak. It's gonna be bad. I've already seen it with many of these new recruits and their thug attitudes. Just take a look!!!!
Here's how the Dept is looking at these numbers:
one quarter of those will not show up for the exam.
18000 - 4500 = 13500
one qaurter will not come close to actually a passing the exam (even tho it is nothing more than a common sense exam.
13500 - 3375 = 10125
one quarter will fail the physical, psych, polygraph, power test, etc.
10125 - 2531 = 7594
one quarter will fail to show up for any one part of the application process
7594 - 1898 = 5696
So, you may have approx. 5696 people that will actually qualify and want the job.
You keep that list up until exhausted.
Based on hiriing history of the past 7 years a percentage of that 5696 will also not want the job when the time comes for them because they have moved on to other careers after waiting so long to get called.
So now you can see why the city would like a higher number taking the written exam.
I recall taking the police exam in 1975.
There were over 75,000 applicants taking that exam.
It was held one the same day at CPS High Schools all over the city.
Those were the good ole days, when people who really needed a job came out for it. When there was no college requirement.
Just a bunch of kids with street smarts that were looking for that chance at a good job, with good benefits.
--- 1) "Crime is down we don't need any more Police."
--- 2) "I hope 30,0000 people apply to become Chicago Cops."
Huh? Wtf..over.
Someone's brain synapses aren't functioning.
Tracy Ladner also discriminates against Veterans who served in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Someone needs to sue her.
CPD struggled to process 9k applicants from 2010. Processing 30k should be a true cluster fuck.
Make a difference in people's lives,my ass!The change will be in your life when the Dept. fucks you over and around, and all the way thru. Don't ever trust that venal, little man ,Rham or his boot licking toady Mcarthy!
Here is the problem I have. Streetlight Assassin constantly says that he has more than adequate number of cops to police Chicago. Then why need 30,000 applicants? If you're only going to replenish retirees the number is sufficient as reported. Maybe this drunken fuck has awoke and realizes we really need to hire about 4,0000 asap.
OT but 1612 3rd watch, you should be ashamed of yourselves. I saw you by Morettis last night, and I was totally embarrassed. Feel free to pick on the bad people, not the easy tax paying targets. Total joke!!
It is ironic that Ladner is now encouraging Police family members to take the test now. She was caught trying to deny family members of Police Officers the job by disqaulifying them through the pych portion. She is now being sued because of this. She is now covering her tracks trying to show that she encourages Police family members to take the test. She did her best on the last test to deny jobs to Police family members and former military. She is going to cost the city plenty of money because of her tampering with the hiring process by disqaulifying Police family members and former military due to her hatred of both.
Why does she hate the military??
it's ironic as hell that Ladner is encouraging officers to have their family members test when she is doing everything in her power to deny family members of police a job.
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That's because the only thing they want is what they think is some bullshit political value of having 30K desperate children apply for a career in being fucked over, lied to and contractually violated at every turn. They think it makes them look cool.
Note to applicants: That "career path" McFuckstick yapped out? It ain't gonna be there kids. As soon as they can find a way to get rid of the top earners (because trying to make them quit by fucking them over ain't working), there'll be no more tests for years on end, just as there have been prior to this bullshit.
You want a career where the shitheel calling himself your employer constantly attempts to bankrupt you? You want a career where you're told this is what your hard work will get you over the next 20 years only to have that shitheel steal it from you year after year and then attempt to make permanent the theft of your compensation in retirement?
By all means, come join "the team".
You'll enjoy working your entire life for this shithole city and these pansyass shithole bosses, only to find all that you worked for and was protected by law was taken from you at the end, and given away to the same shitrats you had to fuck with for 20 years.
Well, them and the 1%er motherfuckers that want the majority of your pension too.... they'll get paid off first with your money.
It will be interesting to see how many actually show up for the test. Meanwhile, they will print up enough tests for the so-called 20,000 applicants. Who has that contract?
I also think this is a young man's game. With our pension mess and the talk of raising the ages, there should be inside spots available for the guys pushing 55+ on this job. If they so choose to work inside. All these young guys and girls who work inside should be ashamed of yourselves. You clouted kiss ass mother fuckers. I'm doing my time on the street. And if the revolver guy had enough of chasing pookie then I can take his place and new hires need to fill our shoes like a revolving door. Seemed to work that way in the 70's through 90's until Daley and Rham took over.
9/07/2013 03:34:00 AM
In the past, experienced bosses would take care of older male and female officers until they retire. Now the political hack exempts fill the inside spots with young females that are afraid to work the street. Using full time officers as secretaries and time keepers. The days of taking care of old timers are gone.
or that no new cops are going to be hired because Rahm wants to cut the force by 10%!
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Right concept, wrong numbers.
Emanuel fully intends to take the number of sworn officers far below that. Try looking at a number right around 5000. See, one third of 5000 is all he thinks are required to police this city. That is, after he cons the public into agreeing to give up their police protection in favor of letting him put police only in the ghetto districts, and then hiring civilian wannabe's to patrol the rest of the "non violent" areas of the city.
Watch and learn..... these gangbanger motherfuckers like Kates and the rest of the scumbags working these bullshit security companies will be the only thing you will see in your nice clean neighborhood. You'll never see another actual COP again.
Mark those words, UNDER 5000 SWORN, PRIVATE SECURITY PAID FOR ON THE CITY TAXPAYER DIME TO "POLICE" THE REST OF THE CITY AND TAKE REPORTS.
THIS is the work in progress, privatization of the police department, and he's gonna sell it off to the stupid by making sure they see a fucking Kates or some other security car in their neighborhood.
And the ghetto slugs who DON'T pay taxes? They're gonna vote this bullshit up twice on Sunday because they're gonna get all the police in their shithole hoods.
Enjoy living in the nice areas folks... and enjoy the shithead gangbanger wannabe that shows up to "take care of you" when the next property crime occurs.
Make sure you don't let them in your house though, cause they'll be back later to home invade you for all you're worth. The benefit of hiring the honest ex-gangbanger and paying them garbage wages don't you know.
We were all told the same thing and YET, you all took the job. SSDD.
I really enjoy my pension check.
"Why would anyone want to apply to work for this department when you have an asshole mayor who fucks over the men and women who risk their lives everyday by refusing to negotiate a fair contract in a timely manner."
I think the same thing. My partner Billy and I can't believe anyone would come on this job anymore.
Do I need (2) #2 pencils to take the test?
At first I wanted to say bullshit to 18,000 applicants. But then I remembered they lowered the testing age to 18. Situation explains it.
They have created a hiring mess.
No keeses for them.
I can't stand what's happened to this dept. and who's now running it from the top down. The good old bosses are gone and probably are never coming back as long as this liberal mayor continues to NOT put politics aside and hire a conservative not liberal superintendent who knows what it takes to run a police dept. The judicial part of the city system needs to be separate from the politics and not subjected to the father phlems and asshole reverends of the world. That being said I was able to talk to a lot of recruits on my new assignment to safe passage from 35th And really enjoyed talking to these guys. It brought me back to a time when I was full of pride and loved this job. I was careful not to rain on their parade/time now. Maybe there is a miracle on the horizon and they'll bring back an old school guy like a McNulty or the one that walked around like Patton with his dog in tow his name escaping me now.
Anonymous said...
ssc you hear this one first 12 hrs shifts are coming everyother weelend off will reduce over time n court cost this was started by reitired police of naperville dave im the greatest dial n we are next
9/06/2013 12:44:00 PM
Hands down one of the most wasted blocks of instruction in my academy was a class he taught that was a couple hours long in a hot room...and he yapped about stuff that had NOTHING to do with the street. They called it an "enrichment" class. And he gives short breaks and tries to go the entire time...on non-testable information.
There is a $30 application fee, per applicant. So wouldnt the City want as many applicants as possible? 30 x 30,000. They could just perpetually accept applications (with a fee) as an alternative revenue stream. The speed camera tickets start at $35, so this would be almost as lucrative.
They should show PPOs standing on a corner in Englewood with their thumb up their ass for 12 hours on that recruitment poster. My advice? Apply, get hired by this department that will take anyone with a pulse, get trained and use that as an asset to lateral transfer or go to another department. Fuck the city, before they can fuck you!
From what I heard only 5000 have completed the whole application.
I also think this is a young man's game. With our pension mess and the talk of raising the ages, there should be inside spots available for the guys pushing 55+ on this job. If they so choose to work inside. All these young guys and girls who work inside should be ashamed of yourselves. You clouted kiss ass mother fuckers. I'm doing my time on the street. And if the revolver guy had enough of chasing pookie then I can take his place and new hires need to fill our shoes like a revolving door. Seemed to work that way in the 70's through 90's until Daley and Rham took over.
9/07/2013 03:34:00 AM
This makes too much sense. There are these young officers who have little to no experience on the street. There are so many overpaid so-called "officers" acting as secretaries. One should not be allowed to work the desk unless you are 50 years old or have 20 years on the job. Make these lazy do-nothings earn their check.
I also think this is a young man's game. With our pension mess and the talk of raising the ages, there should be inside spots available for the guys pushing 55+ on this job. If they so choose to work inside. All these young guys and girls who work inside should be ashamed of yourselves. You clouted kiss ass mother fuckers. I'm doing my time on the street. And if the revolver guy had enough of chasing pookie then I can take his place and new hires need to fill our shoes like a revolving door. Seemed to work that way in the 70's through 90's until Daley and Rham took over.
9/07/2013 03:34:00 AM
I agree. Why would you cater to the lazy and stupid to allow them to work on the desk. It isn't just the clouted. I only have 6 years on this job and I agree there should be spots for the senior officers. They have done their time and should be taken care of.
This is all for show. And why 18yr olds? I smell a fish. Could this be a stunt to gather personal information? I can't figure out what it's about but something just doesn't add up!
A whopping 30,000... of which 15,000 will be disqualified, 7,500 may pass drug testing, 3,500 marginally qualified and 2,000 will move on to actually being qualified to be on some sort of lottery list, maybe 200 will be m/w's.
The winner here is Uncle Terry's Public Service Background Checking Fair n' Square Testing & Human Resourcing Co.
and it's undisclosed investors, consultants and affiliates.
It's ALL legitimate. Really, trust the City.
Why would anyone want to apply to work for this department when you have an asshole mayor who fucks over the men and women who risk their lives everyday by refusing to negotiate a fair contract in a timely manner.
Because, it's a great job.
The only reason McJersy and Rahm want a lot of applicants is the $25 application fee. It's a chance to make money just like getting thousands to sign up for sgts test.
The best inside spot is in your home retired. LOL
Anonymous said...
I remember once seeing the CPD recruitment pamphlet. It had a lot of pictures of shiny happy officers riding horse, handling canines and maning the marine unit boat, you know, all the jobs they'll never have without a phone call. It would have been far more honest to show a couple of old timers riding in a dirty, dilapidated pool car in the ghetto. Then there could be a close up picture showing the officer's expression of resignation and hopelessness.
9/07/2013 12:40:00 AM
More like a beat car going down Madison at 0300 hrs with hookers on the corner, hood rats and spent shell casings crunching under the tires. And one bleary eyed Copper riding solo in a 200k mile car with the paint pealing off the hood/ no working PDT !
The reason they want 30,000 applicants is, believe it or not, money, money, money. All applicants must pay a fee for the privledge of taking this screwed up test! The city isn't looking to hire people. If they offer the test every couple of years and keep rolling in the application fees, more money for the city. It states right on the application, no guarantee of employment
I also think this is a young man's game. With our pension mess and the talk of raising the ages, there should be inside spots available for the guys pushing 55+ on this job. If they so choose to work inside. All these young guys and girls who work inside should be ashamed of yourselves. You clouted kiss ass mother fuckers. I'm doing my time on the street. And if the revolver guy had enough of chasing pookie then I can take his place and new hires need to fill our shoes like a revolving door. Seemed to work that way in the 70's through 90's until Daley and Rham took over.
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Hey dummy.. have you ever worked the desk lately?
People backed up OUT THE DOOR to make reports. Doing all the desk sergeants work, NOW the DSS's job and NOT gettin' paid for it.
NO THANKS! Put me in a Beat car and leave me the hell alone until I retire.
This department has introduced me to some of the most stand up and amusing people I have ever met. People that I would stand next to and not bat an eye at jumping into the deepest piles of shit you can find with.
There are also a handful of great bosses I have been fortunate enough to work for.
Bitch and moan all you want but I haven't had too many bad days on this job during my 17 year carrier so far. If. You go to work every day bitching about Rham and McDumbass you need to to get a hobby.
Enjoy the ride, enjoy your coworkers and even the simpletons and silver spoons we all need to work with on occasion.
It's still a good job it pays well and it's a front row for the dumbest show in the world. Can't get this anywhere else.
to 9/7/13 3;34am i agree with you it should be ten hour days like they do in arizona. did leroy martin wear his green duit at his funeral?
I live downtown and come from a police family. I was at Lake Shore Park Friday night and saw six police officers and a sergeant sitting on a wall in front of a residential building at Lake Shore Drive and Pearson watching a softball game across the street. The group was there for more than an hour so it was not lunch. Others saw it and commented on it, too. One person even snapped a picture. It is a scene such as this one that weakens the case for more police officers -- something the police and citizens want.
He wouldn't be looking for so many recruits of he ended procedural justice/leadership training and sent those able-bodied instructors to the street, kicking and screaming all the way.
For me... this is the most money I have ever made. Many bosses do suck, many don't know what the fuck their doing... If you can find a job making more money with less efforts take that job and let me know so that I can apply. But since I have friends, some of which have prestige's degrees from such schools as DePaul but can't seem to find a job other than in Retail, I suggest you give this a go. When the Dot.Coms and real-estate buis. were booming citizens would rub their $$$ in our faces... Not so anymore! Some are actually envious of our salaries! For those who think I'm full of shit, go out into the private sector then come back to me after a year! Sure, you can get killed... but here in Chi-rac you can get killed just crossing the street!
@anonymous 12:10:00 AM: Obamatons
Ladner is now trying to cover up her misdeeds from the last test. If Ladner had her way, they would only hire CPS graduates. She discriminates against veterans and Police family members applying for the job. She needs to be fired and sued.
Anonymous said...
Don't do it !!!!
The money is good but you sacrifice your freedom and eventually your sanity.
This department is FUBAR.
9/07/2013 02:05:00 AM
The money is OK, not good.
We are nickeled and dimed to death in this city, and when we complain about it the response is, no one made you work here.
Yes, complete FUBAR!
There is a $30 application fee, per applicant. So wouldnt the City want as many applicants as possible? 30 x 30,000. They could just perpetually accept applications (with a fee) as an alternative revenue stream. The speed camera tickets start at $35, so this would be almost as lucrative.
Not if you do the math. City says it cost 1,000,000 to conduct the exam. So at $30 an applicant times 30,000 you are only taking in 900,000 so the city isnt making any money. Exams aren't cheap.
Prpbably costs thousand for every one hired. By the time a candidate takes the medical and psych exam, along with the polygraoh and the power tests, expenses add up, no counting all the administrative expenses
Where are the getting these numbers???
A wild guess would be from the online application. Am sure they are not too hard to count
Just another in the continuing series of misrepresentation of numbers.
Take for example Illinois foreclosures.
By Dan Levy September 13, 2012
Illinois Foreclosures Surging Lure Investors: Mortgages
Illinois soared to the highest foreclosure rate in the U.S. last month as job losses mounted, luring investors like Waypoint Real Estate Group LLC that scoured the state for homes priced at half of peak values.
A total of 17,781 Illinois properties received a filing of default, auction or repossession in August, up 42 percent from a year earlier and the eighth straight monthly increase on an annual basis, according to data seller RealtyTrac Inc. The rate of foreclosure filings per household in the state was one in every 298, vaulting Illinois to the nation’s top spot for the first time in company records dating to January 2005.
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While foreclosures across the country are slowing, with filings increasing 1 percent in August from the previous month, they climbed 29 percent in Illinois. The national foreclosure rate was one in 681 households, less than half the rate in Illinois.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-13/illinois-foreclosures-surging-lure-investors-mortgages
SOMEONE CALL DAMAGE CONTROL, WE CAN'T HAVE REPORTS LIKE THAT GOING OUT!
Now if you have seen stories promising that Illinois foreclosures have peaked with the numbers being reported showing a decrease consider this:
Zombie foreclosure statistics scary
April 19, 2013|Mary Umberger
...n a zombie foreclosure, the owner has gotten a foreclosure notice and subsequently packed up and moved, apparently thinking it's over — the banks will finish the job. But many banks, for various reasons, haven't followed through with the rest of the process, and the homes languish in the absent homeowners' names.
And the homeowners, sometimes years later, find out they're still on the hook for property taxes.
There are about 302,000 "zombies," according to RealtyTrac, a housing data company that studies foreclosure activity.
See if the bank has enough tax write offs for the year just stop processing the foreclosures. Doesn't mean that they are not still out there. The problems appear to be over and even the investors are happy because THEY THINK all that problem real estate is off the books - woo-hoo we're in recovery! Yeah, right.
Furthermore with Chicago's city ordinances on abandon property why be in a hurry to process foreclosures since you'll be fined for not cutting the grass, maintaining the place, cleaning off graffiti, etc.. not to mention paying the higher real estate tax bills. So like that last story points out. Stick it to the last tenant, make them think foreclosure is complete and let the city and state surprise them with a tax bill which when they receive making matters worse and now pushing them into bankruptcy if they are not already there.
But the reports of Chicago's foreclosure problems being in the past are out there. They are trying to sell it hard, really hard. Is anyone buying it?
Corrupt politicians and media propaganda and the fun with numbers game.
WRT: For me... this is the most money I have ever made. Many bosses do suc...
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Just remember one thing. The money you have in your hand today is really just a transfer of money out of our pension benefit system for tomorrow.
Spend or save it wisely. The good times never last forever.
Anonymous said...
I live downtown and come from a police family. I was at Lake Shore Park Friday night and saw six police officers and a sergeant sitting on a wall in front of a residential building at Lake Shore Drive and Pearson watching a softball game across the street. The group was there for more than an hour so it was not lunch. Others saw it and commented on it, too. One person even snapped a picture. It is a scene such as this one that weakens the case for more police officers -- something the police and citizens want.
9/07/2013 02:03:00 PM
What about the groups of police officers standing on the corners in the ghetto babysitting the welfare rats?
The residents paying $15-&20,000 in taxes don't deserve police in their neighborhood??
CPD will be reduced to just under 7,000 by 2015
After they create the two-tiered pension system and tell you not to worry -- the major portions of the new pension reform only effect the new guys, that no-one is doing anything to the legacy guys and gals in the system before a certain date.
Yeah after the two-tiered pension system is in place. That's when you push out and make life even more miserable for the tenured people under the old pension rules.
That's why Garry needs 30,000 applicants.
I've seen it time and again in the corporate world. See it's true. The pension for the legacy people wasn't touched. The fact that you will not have employment to the date that you expected and planned to retire is another matter.
Pension reform first. Hiring surge second. Drop the hammer last as you churn out the workforce to lower wages and benefits waving the flag of glory on how the city saved "X" dollars. Don't talk about the careers and lives ruined like they've just done to thousands of teachers. No,,savings is good. Everyone loves saving, yeah?
I say we draft up a petition to BEG Condoleeza RICE to move to Chicago to run against Rahm. The city needs a Brilliant,Classy,Conservative Women of Color to straighten out this mess.
Emanuel fully intends to take the number of sworn officers far below that. Try looking at a number right around 5000. See, one third of 5000 is all he thinks are required to police this city. That is, after he cons the public into agreeing to give up their police protection in favor of letting him put police only in the ghetto districts, and then hiring civilian wannabe's to patrol the rest of the "non violent" areas of the city.
Wow, and all this done in 3 years??? Lmao yeah ok! Put tge bottle down!
I live downtown and come from a police family. I was at Lake Shore Park Friday night and saw six police officers and a sergeant sitting on a wall in front of a residential building at Lake Shore Drive and Pearson watching a softball game across the street. The group was there for more than an hour so it was not lunch. Others saw it and commented on it, too. One person even snapped a picture. It is a scene such as this one that weakens the case for more police officers -- something the police and citizens want.
9/07/2013 02:03:00 PM
Did you get robbed or raped? Did anyone with you? If not, that was one of the safest areas to be. TI live downtown and come from a police family. I was at Lake Shore Park Friday night and saw six police officers and a sergeant sitting on a wall in front of a residential building at Lake Shore Drive and Pearson watching a softball game across the street. The group was there for more than an hour so it was not lunch. Others saw it and commented on it, too. One person even snapped a picture. It is a scene such as this one that weakens the case for more police officers -- something the police and citizens want.
9/07/2013 02:03:00 PM
Did you or anyone get raped or robbed? If not, then you should be happy police were in the area! Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.
When the Dot.Coms and real-estate buis. were booming citizens would rub their $$$ in our faces...
Spot on! We were "just" cops on a lowly city wage then! Now everyone is jealous and do not want us getting our EARNED pensions! The haters need to fuck off!
Look at what the job has to offer;
Higher Divorce Rate,
Much Higher Suicide Rate,
Much Higher Rate Of Alcoholism,
Lower Life Expectancy,
You Get To Work On Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Years, Etc.
Guaranteed Physical Injuries For Those Who Work,
Multiple Guaranteed Lawsuits For Those Who Work,
A Mistake At Work Could Put You In Prison,
An Extremely Corrupt Promotional System,
Hard Workers Get Punished,
Do Nothings Get Rewarded,
Physical Pain In Your Golden Years Due To Career Of Injuries While The City Raises Your Insurance Premiums And Repeatedly Attempts To Take Your Medical Insurance Away,
Hearing Citizens And Politicians That You Got Injured And Sued For Telling You In Retirement That You Cost Too Much,
If this is what you want in your career then step right up.
I Did.
Where is my retirement seminar?
Less then two years to go.
Any of you that are applying take the time to talk to an old timer
and see what this department has done to them, and what this department will do to you. You will run out the door.
All the complainers last year with overtime I grossed $130,000 this year as of sept 01 $98,000 yep d-1 pay and overtime not bad! If you want to leave move out of the city or whatever go ahead more room for coppers that would appreciate what a good job we have!
Well, what sucks about there being 20,000 applicants is being 27 years old. I'm sure majority of those who are testing are between the ages of 18-20. I'll probably 'age out' by the time I am called to start the process. Do you think CPD will begin calling people to start the process next year or wait 2-3 years, 5-7 years?
1:53 PM:
I believe you. However, you speak for yourself alone. I perceive you as a person with diminished expectations who finds corrupt management, patronage and mediocrity acceptable. I do not.
I live downtown and come from a police family. I was at Lake Shore Park Friday night and saw six police officers and a sergeant sitting on a wall in front of a residential building at Lake Shore Drive and Pearson watching a softball game across the street. The group was there for more than an hour so it was not lunch. Others saw it and commented on it, too. One person even snapped a picture. It is a scene such as this one that weakens the case for more police officers -- something the police and citizens want.
9/07/2013 02:03:00 PM
When you get your day off cancelled at the last minute (usually two days notice) to go work downtown you'd do the same thing. When they tell you to stand on a corner and be visible so the mutts see police and get discouraged from commuting crime you do that and you write that they're lazy. You can have it both ways. There's not enough police to man those spots all the time so they have to lure (with OT) or force PPOS (fresh hires) who've never seen the actual I side of a police car yet or even the inside of a lockup or court room. That's what you'll get. Hire more police to save money on the OT costs its simple.
Anonymous said...
I live downtown and come from a police family. I was at Lake Shore Park Friday night and saw six police officers and a sergeant sitting on a wall in front of a residential building at Lake Shore Drive and Pearson watching a softball game across the street. The group was there for more than an hour so it was not lunch. Others saw it and commented on it, too. One person even snapped a picture. It is a scene such as this one that weakens the case for more police officers -- something the police and citizens want.
9/07/2013 02:03:00 PM
Was anyone over there shot, stabbed, murdered, robbed, raped, attacked, had their iPhones stolen or otherwise harmed while those police officers were there?
If it bothered you, why didn't you go up to them and ask if they had anything better to do? Maybe they were on lunch. You could have asked.
I have a good job. I will never get laid off. I don't even have to do much work. My raise is never based on how hard I work. I have plenty of opportunities to make overtime.
Why am I so grumpy?
Anonymous said...
I live downtown and come from a police family. I was at Lake Shore Park Friday night and saw six police officers and a sergeant sitting on a wall in front of a residential building at Lake Shore Drive and Pearson watching a softball game across the street. The group was there for more than an hour so it was not lunch. Others saw it and commented on it, too. One person even snapped a picture. It is a scene such as this one that weakens the case for more police officers -- something the police and citizens want.
9/07/2013 02:03:00 PM
Obviously you or your Police family is not up to date. They have PPOs assigned to a SGT and they are stuck in a fixed area. Instead of complaining maybe you should have talked to them. They would have told you that they were stuck there because of the wilding youths. As for needing more Police try and find 6 Officers and a Sgt in a taxpayer neighborhood. Then you will understand.
Just wondering here...ya think that they are planning to transfer all of these applications to the contact card database?
Sure would help those numbers!
It's funny how the city has a fee waiver for those in need. My kid in the Marine Corp will have to pay but the dope slinger gets a waiver. Go figure!!! Maybe the little fuckers will show up wearing their $300.00 gym shoes.
At $50 a pop for the exam, of course McWhiskey wants 30,000 people to apply. Hell, that's enough to buy him drinks for a whole month!
Anonymous said...
He wouldn't be looking for so many recruits of he ended procedural justice/leadership training and sent those able-bodied instructors to the street, kicking and screaming all the way.
9/07/2013 02:16:00 PM
Another cry baby watching everyone else work. Maybe you need something to do instead of watching others work. MYOFB
Anonymous said...
Why would anyone want to apply to work for this department when you have an asshole mayor who fucks over the men and women who risk their lives everyday by refusing to negotiate a fair contract in a timely manner
9/07/2013 12:10:00 AM
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How about because even with all the problems, there aren't many jobs out there in the real world where you can make 60g after three years? But you are right, a good leader or a city government that appreciated our work would negotiate in good faith and in a timely manner. But in my 28 years they have never done so.
But if you are a 21 year old with a college degree, from I don't care where and the best you can find is a low paying no benefits job, this ain't a bad deal, regardless of the contract negotiation situation.
I live downtown and come from a police family. I was at Lake Shore Park Friday night and saw six police officers and a sergeant sitting on a wall in front of a residential building at Lake Shore Drive and Pearson watching a softball game across the street. The group was there for more than an hour so it was not lunch. Others saw it and commented on it, too. One person even snapped a picture. It is a scene such as this one that weakens the case for more police officers -- something the police and citizens want.
Ask your "family" about fixed posts, moron. Truth is, you have NO IDEA why those officers were there or what they were doing. If your brain pan is generally the same size as your "family" members', I have no doubt you are related to bosses on this job. Idiot.
Do they still charge $25 to take the test? In that case the City would like a million to take the test. How much to take the test for Comptroller? Or Mayor?
>>> Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I remember once seeing the CPD recruitment pamphlet. It had a lot of pictures of shiny happy officers riding horse, handling canines and maning the marine unit boat, you know, all the jobs they'll never have without a phone call. It would have been far more honest to show a couple of old timers riding in a dirty, dilapidated pool car in the ghetto. Then there could be a close up picture showing the officer's expression of resignation and hopelessness.
9/07/2013 12:40:00 AM
More like a beat car going down Madison at 0300 hrs with hookers on the corner, hood rats and spent shell casings crunching under the tires. And one bleary eyed Copper riding solo in a 200k mile car with the paint pealing off the hood/ no working PDT !
9/07/2013 12:32:00 PM<<<
I remember a black and white TV commercial of a Chicago Cop in a leather uniform jacket and round crown cap shining a flashlight walking down a dark alley.
The narration went something like,
"You wouldn't walk down an alley like this for a million bucks. A cop does it for a lot less."
It made an impression on me and I would bet that film is in a can in the vaults of WGN-TV. It would be interesting to see it again.
From the CPD Application :
You reap what you sow
On 9/6/2013 9:26 PM, Mark Czworniak wrote:
In fucking believable...
Your request for a fee waiver MUST be accompanied by at least one current document listed below. Please attach one of the required documents to the resume tab of your application. Failure to do so will result in an incomplete request, and you will not be permitted to sit for the exam.
IDES Wage Information Sheet
IDES Benefit Payment Stub
IDPA Medical Card
IDPA Verification of Benefits Form / Grant Information Request
LINK Card and Receipt
The receipt must be from a recent purchase such as a grocery bill within the last
month.
Food Stamp Issuance Document
Federal Income Tax Return (most recent tax year)
Letter (on shelter letterhead) from the homeless shelter where you currently stay.
This is my favorite ^
Sent from my iPad
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Vernon J Geberth, M.S., M.P.S.
Homicide And Forensic Consultant
P.H.I. Investigative Consultants Inc.
30,000 applications = $900,000
Just saying.
Those police officers are probably hard chargers and come from fast districts. Did anyone at lake shore park get there iPhones stolen? Probably not.
I live downtown and come from a police family. I was at Lake Shore Park Friday night and saw six police officers and a sergeant sitting on a wall in front of a residential building at Lake Shore Drive and Pearson watching a softball game across the street. The group was there for more than an hour so it was not lunch. Others saw it and commented on it, too. One person even snapped a picture. It is a scene such as this one that weakens the case for more police officers -- something the police and citizens want.
Your an idiot
I remember once seeing the CPD recruitment pamphlet. It had a lot of pictures of shiny happy officers riding horse, handling canines and maning the marine unit boat, you know, all the jobs they'll never have without a phone call. It would have been far more honest to show a couple of old timers riding in a dirty, dilapidated pool car in the ghetto. Then there could be a close up picture showing the officer's expression of resignation and hopelessness.
9/07/2013 12:40:00 AM
More like a beat car going down Madison at 0300 hrs with hookers on the corner, hood rats and spent shell casings crunching under the tires. And one bleary eyed Copper riding solo in a 200k mile car with the paint pealing off the hood/ no working PDT !
A Job Only for the CLOUTED
Best advice Don't Apply Period
Anonymous said...
Where is my retirement seminar?
Less then two years to go.
9/07/2013 05:11:00 PM
Sign up quick. Sometimes the whole year gets filled.
Well, what sucks about there being 20,000 applicants is being 27 years old. I'm sure majority of those who are testing are between the ages of 18-20.
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Believe me.. 20,000 will get narrowed down FAST !
Half will piss hot or fail the POWER test.
A good chunk will lose interest go to jail.
YOU should get called within 9 months and make Deputy Chief by the time you have 5 years on.
Any of you that are applying take the time to talk to an old timer
and see what this department has done to them, and what this department will do to you. You will run out the door.
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Sorry pal
Most coppers who got "fucked" really "fucked" themselves.
Just lay low and do the bare minimum .. follow all the RULES and you will do fine on this job.
If you want to be a glory boy superstar cop you will screw YOURSELVE. Shame on you then.
"Do Nothings Get Rewarded,"
9/07/2013 05:08:00 PM
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YES! Exactly!
perhaps if you had a brain you would understand that's what YOU should do and you would not be such a complainer.
This is all for show.
And why 18yr olds?
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In New York 17 1/2 year olds can take them exam.
It has been that way for over 50 years that I know of.
It is because they want to hire you YOUNG at age 21 to 23.
It's easier to "shape" "mold" and "brainwash" a young mind into want they want.
Why do you think the Marines want only young kids to join?
if you want to come on this job to kick ass and put felons in prison please leave your phone number so I can call you and squeeze all the sausage out of your head--- if you want to come on this job to be a tax collector for this crooked shyster running this city you came to the right place....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Where is my retirement seminar?
Less then two years to go.
9/07/2013 05:11:00 PM
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Been on that long and can't find a retirement seminar?
You deserve a promotion.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
At $50 a pop for the exam, of course McWhiskey wants 30,000 people to apply. Hell, that's enough to buy him drinks for a whole month!
9/07/2013 08:20:00 PM
You got rooked. Go ask whoever took your money to give twenty of it back, because the fee to take the test is THIRTY dollars, according to the City Police FAQ page.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have a good job. I will never get laid off. I don't even have to do much work. My raise is never based on how hard I work. I have plenty of opportunities to make overtime.
Why am I so grumpy?
9/07/2013 07:04:00 PM
Because you are the mayor of Chicago and you are making a mess of it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well, what sucks about there being 20,000 applicants is being 27 years old. I'm sure majority of those who are testing are between the ages of 18-20. I'll probably 'age out' by the time I am called to start the process. Do you think CPD will begin calling people to start the process next year or wait 2-3 years, 5-7 years?
9/07/2013 05:46:00 PM
You're twenty-seven. You 'age out' at FORTY. Get a grip.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All the complainers last year with overtime I grossed $130,000 this year as of sept 01 $98,000 yep d-1 pay and overtime not bad! If you want to leave move out of the city or whatever go ahead more room for coppers that would appreciate what a good job we have!
9/07/2013 05:21:00 PM
How much does Rahm pay you to sit in your little City Hall cubicle and write silly propagandist posts like this one? Or are you an unpaid intern?
it is still a great job with great people it is the mayor and the leadership that sucks, take the test and take the job you can always transfer to another department if you are unhappy.
"I say we draft up a petition and BEG Condoleeza Rice to move to Chicago and run against Rahm. The city needs a Brilliant, Classy, Conservative Woman of Color to straighten out this mess."
9/07/2013 04:09:00 PM
That sound you just heard was the Chicago Democratic political and media apparatus taking a collective and simultaneous shit up over the waistbands of their drawers!
DAMN! That's an almost perfect stymie to the entrenched doers of fuckery in this town.
Does Ms. Rice have the requisite willpower, political viciousness and killing intent to set the proper course of correction for this city?
She doesn't appear to have any vices and has no family for these rotten m/fers in Daley Inc., Rahm & Co., Dude Inc. and Poverty Pimps R' Us to fuck with...
All she really needs are upright people to advise her on the appropriate asses to take the hide off of...
Our sinister self kinda likes that idea.
If a shit-ass with a busted moral compass like Rahm can drop out the sky and win, why not Ms. Rice?
She gives the impression of actually being a decent and reasonable person.
Unlike the overcompensating for childhood slights m/fer we're currently afflicted with.
I came on in the 80's. Do applicants have to take a lie detector test? If so, is one of those questions, "have you ever used illegal drugs?" Because if it is, you can cancel out about 29,000 of the 30,000 if they can get that many.
Sorry pal
Most coppers who got "fucked" really "fucked" themselves.
Just lay low and do the bare minimum .. follow all the RULES and you will do fine on this job.
If you want to be a glory boy superstar cop you will screw YOURSELVE. Shame on you then.
9/08/2013 08:48:00 AM
So true. If you have to question whether your actions might be over the line, they probably are. Nobody gives a shit if you're a super-cop, and nobody will remember how great you were (thought you were). Plus, nobody likes anyone who looks out only for themselves and making themselves look good and who isn't a team player.
This department is in sad sad shape. Who the hell wants to join a department thats leadership is inadequate. A mayor that fucks with our pensions and is just as bad if not worse that Daley regarding contract negotiations. Do yourselves a favor. Join another department.
Your an idiot
9/08/2013 05:00:00 AM
.....said the guy who misspelled "you're".
"It made an impression on me and I would bet that film is in a can in the vaults of WGN-TV. It would be interesting to see it again.
9/07/2013 11:20:00 PM"
Doubtful it was probably destroyed along with all the Garfield Goose,
Ray Rayner& Bozo tapes.
Frazier Thomas was asked if he wanted the tapes, he asked for time to find storage, Tribune company went ahead & destroyed them.
True story.
Gee, let's try and figure out why no one want's this SHIT, THANKLESS job anymore?? Let's start with these "TOP TEN"!
1. You have to live in this dump!
2. You work weekends, holidays, different watches, miss most of your kids activities, etc.!
3. We've averaged about 3% pay increases over the last 10 years!
(What's the cost of living increase average??)
4. The clueless, liberal public would rather sue you than thank you for saving their useless lives!
5. They are taking every thing we took this job for, THE BENEFITS!
6. The thieving politicians are trying to steal our pitiful pensions while they vote themselves lavish pensions and retirement benefits!
7. This department is run by a bunch of political, merit hacks that couldn't engineer a wet dream!
8. We are given the most pathetic equipment and training in LE to do the job!
9. The college requirement has absolutely FAILED, but no one has the BALLS to admit it!
AND 10: DO YOUR JOB AND RISK BEING STRIPPED, FIRED, INDICTED AND GOING BANKRUPT because them political hacks at IPRA would rather believe some fkn 3 page RAP sheet crackhead than the obvious truth!
AND THESE ARE JUST FEW EXAMPLES!!
So good luck Ladner with your bullshit media blitz. Why, you looking for more "fodder" to try and fuck over? How much more money will you cost the city taxpayers when the next wave of lawsuits come filing in?
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