Burke Overreach Again
- Chicago restaurants that serve liquor would have to ban firearms or risk losing their city licenses — under a crackdown advanced Friday in an end-around the state’s new concealed-carry law.
Arguing that “booze and bullets don’t mix,” the City Council’s Finance Committee did what Gov. Pat Quinn tried to do in his amendatory veto of the concealed carry bill, only to be overridden by a defiant General Assembly.
The ordinance championed by Finance Chairman Edward M. Burke (14th) and downtown Ald. Brendan Reilly (42nd) would exempt stores that sell packaged liquor.
But, all other establishments that serve alcohol — not just bars that generate more than half their revenue from liquor — would be required to prohibit firearms on the premises.
Todd Vandermyde of the NRA fired back immediately:
- Todd Vandermyde, legislative liason for the National Rifle Association (NRA), warned that the Legislature “reserved for itself and exclusively for itself the ability to regulate who can, where and how carry a concealed handgun” in Illinois.
The Burke-Reilly ordinance is “beyond the scope” of the City Council’s authority, Vandermyde said.
“The issue of booze and bullets is a red herring. While it’s a wonderful sound bite, the issue is about being able to go to a restaurant and enjoy the dinner or a meal with your family, with friends and not have to surrender or remove your firearm,” Vandermyde said.
“It’s not about intoxication. It’s not about having a drink. If you’re intoxicated under the act, it is a crime. It carries the same penalties as if you’re caught driving a vehicle under the influence.”
Vandermyde accused aldermen of creating “two classes of citizens” by allowing retired law enforcement officers to carry their weapons into restaurants. Owners and tenants would also be exempt, under the ordinance.
Didn't we get letters a few years ago about Burke being driven over the Wisconsin border in a city car by city cops and enjoying a few frosty beverages at a Department golf outing while armed with his pistol? Why yes we did. And while the city cops have disappeared from his detail, we still got the same letters this year, too, but it seemed a non-issue...until Burke starts with this nonsense again. Now we're sorry we didn't cover it this year.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
56 Comments:
Ed still packs, doesn't he?
This is a plaintiff's lawyer wet dream.
When will these jaghats realise they lost the fight for CCW in Illinois?
Or maybe they are in cahoots with the NRA and ISRA to split settlement money?
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When will these asshats just give up?
It is now law in all 50 states--deal with it
I am proud to be a member of a prestigious law enforcement professional organization.
Our members are police officers from all levels of government, federal agents, private investigators, attorneys and high-line security people. I and most of these other members are discretely armed and more will be armed with Concealed Carry.
We have dinner meetings at great restaurants in Chicago and the suburbs about six to eight times a year with about 30 to 100 members attending at $40 to $50 a head with a cash bar.
So that's $1,200 to $5,000 catering tab plus bar tab on a weekday night. Tell me a good restaurant is going to want to give that up. I don't think so, and I like the suburban meetings better because of easier parking.
P.S. Two people that will never be member of that organization are Jody Weis and Gary McCarthy.
Unless they have metal detectors at the door who cares? Bring your pistol wherever you want.
Fuck 'em...
Take your business to the suburbs and laugh your ass off at the 10 o'clock news when these high line places are on the receiving end of take-over robberies and sex assaults because they're "gun free" zones.
Maybe some friends and family members of local media, and the criminal-political class will finally feel some pain as a result of this...
You outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.
The most ridiculous thing I have ever saw was burkes body guard detail, several years ago,I thought it was for a dignitary from a foreign country.
wish this douche bag would just retire....go away aldercreature...haven't you sucked enough money out of the city???
There are a lot of places where Concealed Carry is legal, but you can't bring a firearm into a place that serves liquor. That applies to off-duty PO's too, no guns allowed in the gin mill.
Hey, Chicago! Did you know that all of your aldermen can carry concealed guns on them by virtue of simply being and alderman?
And speaking of aldercreatures, want to save money around here?
Cut 25 aldermanic positions! We don't need 50 alderman!!
In the Colorado theater shooting, the bad guy had to pass two other theaters to get to his target. You want to know why, the first two had signs saying they permit ccw. Way to go Burke tell all the armed robbers out there that restaurants would be a safe place to hit.
Apparently Aldercreature Burke hangs around with a lot of violent Alcoholics.
Seriously, what other conclusion can the average person reach - as Burke sounds like he's speaking from experience if he thinks no single person who has a drink can be trusted around a loaded weapon.
Which begs the question, a) If Booze & Bullets don't mix why doesn't Burke just Ban Guns from Chicago homes with any Booze in it, and b) if passed as is will McQuickdraw have to leave his 'Shootin-Iron' in the car when he goes out boozing?
What's that corrupt Burke going to propose next? Unless you put a "No Badmouthing Aldermen" sign on your business you will have your business license revoked. Hey, it's not a first amendment thing, it's a business licensing thing. See? It's ok then.
---- "you can't bring a firearm into a place that serves liquor. That applies to off-duty PO's too, no guns allowed in the gin mill." ----
O'Reilly?... bwaaahahaha!
[As a wise man once said: 'You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you.]
Burke is a member of a gun club in wi, and (o my god) owns a assault rifle, mini 14
If there is anything burke knows about, it's taverns and drunks with a gun.
I hope one restaurant owner has the balls to say "no I will not post that sign". When he is not given a license the NRA will back him in a law suit and most likely win. That's OK, The city has plenty of money to give away.
It is already illegal to carry while intoxicated. Another example of "we know whats best for you comrade" Liberal Democratic Idealism. Just like "don't work we will give you Link, just vote democratic and don't worry we wont cut your benefits we will take those lousy cops pensions to keep paying you."
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/09/06/aldermen-seek-to-make-bars-restaurants-gun-free-zones/
one place put my bodyguard comments on the air
Todd
Burke has his armed coat holders -on our dime, of course. Why on earth would he care whether "the great unwashed" have access to their own protection?
No SCC burkes bodyguards are still there, they are now retired coppers, but wait a minute the mayor has a detail, the city clerk has none, but yet the city treasurer who no one knows who she is still has MN the lapa guy getting d-3 pay along with a contingent of coppers all active CPD, with a couple of brand new cars how can this be? Any investigative reporters left John Kass you reading this? Fran spielman you got your glasses on?
Can the legit people in Englewood carry firearms into Whole Foods?
Chicago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWtCittJyr0
Brother, don't be so quick to think Burke doesn't still have a bodyguard/driver detail.
For the record, so does former Mayor Daley. They're just not as prominent.
Check out the part-time duties of those reassigned to 001/018/working at the Finance Committee.
This so called whatever over reach blah blah blah...would NOT APPLY to Peace Officers. I would have liked the City to make it mandatory for any person who is armed to immediately tell an Officer that he or she is armed at the beginning of any interaction. We always assume that...but just another safety factor for any Officer. Guess this City really doesn't care about safety.
I carry my gun in hospitals, on the gambling boats, churches and I'll carry it in any bar or restaurant I go to. Who knows or cares.
Some people just love the spotlight.
No keeses for him.
"Shall not be infringed"
It's Dodge City, Kansas in the 1800's all over again.
You had to surrender your
firearm(s) to the bartender
upon entering the saloon.
My, how far we have vome.
P.S. Two people that will never be member of that organization are Jody Weis and Gary McCarthy.
9/07/2013 12:30:00 AM
I know of and belong to this organization. But, I would not bet on these two never joining.
Anonymous said...
There are a lot of places where Concealed Carry is legal, but you can't bring a firearm into a place that serves liquor. That applies to off-duty PO's too, no guns allowed in the gin mill.
9/07/2013 01:07:00
Just not true. You are misinformed and ignorant
The Bolsheviks and their front men are at it again. Same MO, just a different town, different decade, different nation to be conquered and destroyed. Their motto, "By way of deception, we shall do war". The portend for America? Look back in time.
There are a lot of places where Concealed Carry is legal, but you can't bring a firearm into a place that serves liquor. That applies to off-duty PO's too, no guns allowed in the gin mill.
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You couldn't be more wrong in your comment. As long as alcohol sales don't exceed 51% in any establishment you are free to bring in a concealed weapon....unless the establishment makes a choice to not allow it. Read up on the law before making such ignorant comments.
Ald. Burke has a very large security detail. If the Alderman is doing the "people's work" representing the interests of his constituants, why does must he have excessive protection? What exactly does he do and why might he have so many enemies/threats? One can only concluded that he is doing something he shouldn't be doing. Alderman, why all the gun control? What exactly do you fear from armed law abiding citizens? If your conscious is your guide and you had the American citizens concerns in mind when you wield your absolute power (along with your influence in the courts both the Illinois Supreme Court and Cook County), what is your rationale for all your personal protection? Inquiring minds want to know.
So sick of Burke and his know it all fat-ass precinct captain on my job.
Ed "Huge Head" Burke is a pompous, arrogant, windbag, piece of shit.
If Burke does this, and the rest of the Aldermen go along with this crap I swear if I see any of them out at any establishment and I suspect that they or their bodyguards are carrying I will call in a MAN WITH A GUN.
Then cell phone video the response.
Just don't go to the place and let the owner know why your not going there. Sooner or later there are going to be many ccw people owners will lose more and more customers so screw them.
Damn Burke!
He made me donate another $20 bucks to the NRA over his stupidity!
I hope the NRA rubs this goofball into the ground!
KMA
This moron actually thinks he is some great statesman.
http://www.ilga.gov/house/rep.asp?MemberID=1805
Read the bio page of the Illinois House Representative for the 1st District, who is also a CPD sergeant and the daughter of Burke's 14th Ward office secretary.
It is incestuous.
You couldn't be more wrong in your comment. As long as alcohol sales don't exceed 51% in any establishment you are free to bring in a concealed weapon....unless the establishment makes a choice to not allow it. Read up on the law before making such ignorant comments.
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Please wake up. If you are in the gin mill then you are most likely drinking. If you are drinking then you should not have your gun on you. PO or not. For once I have to agree with him. That's the 1st time. Its not worth you losing your home when the lawsuit flies.
am proud to be a member of a prestigious law enforcement professional organization.
Our members are police officers from all levels of government, federal agents, private investigators, attorneys and high-line security people. I and most of these other members are discretely armed and more will be armed with Concealed Carry.
We have dinner meetings at great restaurants in Chicago and the suburbs about six to eight times a year with about 30 to 100 members attending at $40 to $50 a head with a cash bar.
So that's $1,200 to $5,000 catering tab plus bar tab on a weekday night. Tell me a good restaurant is going to want to give that up. I don't think so, and I like the suburban meetings better because of easier parking.
P.S. Two people that will never be member of that organization are Jody Weis and Gary McCarthy.
As a suburban Law Enforcement Officer with 20+ ears, may I ask your organization what's your name and when do you accept applications?
It's Dodge City, Kansas in the 1800's all over again.
You had to surrender your
firearm(s) to the bartender
upon entering the saloon.
My, how far we have vome.
9/07/2013 10:08:00 AM
Had to do this at the bar across from Summerdale.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
P.S. Two people that will never be member of that organization are Jody Weis and Gary McCarthy.
9/07/2013 12:30:00 AM
I know of and belong to this organization. But, I would not bet on these two never joining.
9/07/2013 10:12:00 AM
It's not a secret club. It's the Special Agents Association. If a member likes you and you qualify as an investigator, they can sponsor you for membership. McStreetlights would easily be blocked for his self-confessed assassination of a streetlamp.
>>>Anonymous said...
P.S. Two people that will never be member of that organization are Jody Weis and Gary McCarthy.
9/07/2013 12:30:00 AM
I know of and belong to this organization. But, I would not bet on these two never joining.
9/07/2013 10:12:00 AM<<<
"I'd never join a club that would have me as a member." Groucho Marx.
I am sure that what ever fine and respected organization you are a member of it is
probably not the one I wrote about.
To become a member is not as simple as filling out a coupon and writing a check. New members to the organization I refer to must be sponsored and then seconded by other members in good standing.
The proposed new member's name, credentials and a short bio are then published in our newsletter giving our membership the opportunity to affirm or object to the new member.
There are many Chicago Cops of all ranks in this organization and the rest are not fools and know what Weis and McCarthy have done very well. Please don't take it as a dare to try to get either one of them to join as the results would be an embarrassment. I don’t think either one of them would take rejection well and would respond by very underhanded means.
Just a final thought; how would the members of the organization you belong to feel, particularly the CPD members if you tried to bring either Weis or McCarthy in as members?
I think more drunks kill with cars, ok if you have a drivers license and or a car you should not be allowed in a place that sells liquor. Its for the children
E.B. sure does love the spot light.
I Just saw him last Friday seated at a prominent sidewalk table at Gibsons.
He looked like a wax figure dressed in a dark suit; like a gangster wearing a white straw hat.
He had a perpetual shit eating grin.
Mickey Siegal was seated across the table from him.
Opposite ends of the same turd, those two.
Is Burke still paying into the Pension???? Clouted Rules
I hear a cop on military ;leave isn't allowed to pay into his pension until he is back safe in the USA. Sounds like BS
Semper Fi
11:03 PM
So Burke is hanging out at Gibson's with Mickey Segal, the former CEO that embezzled $20,000,000 from his Near North Insurance Brokerage before his federal fraud conviction with 10 years in ClubFed.
Associating with a convicted felon is par for the course. It's the Chicago Way. Is anyone surprised? Birds of a feather...
Anonymous said...
Ed still packs, doesn't he?
This is a plaintiff's lawyer wet dream.
When will these jaghats realise they lost the fight for CCW in Illinois?
Or maybe they are in cahoots with the NRA and ISRA to split settlement money?
9/07/2013 12:15:00 AM
Packs? Sure, little snubbie in an ankle holster.
As a suburban Law Enforcement Officer with 20+ ears, may I ask your organization what's your name and when do you accept applications?
9/07/2013 05:29:00 PM
Special Agents Association. You need a member to sponsor you in. Ask around and get one to take you to a few meetings as a guest.
As a suburban Law Enforcement Officer with 20+ ears, may I ask your organization what's your name and when do you accept applications?
9/07/2013 05:29:00 PM
Special Agents Association. You need a member to sponsor you in. Ask around and get one to take you to a few meetings as a guest.
9/08/2013 01:40:00 PM
Always interested in good people who can bring something to the organization; send a short To/From, include a business card if you can to S.A. at P.O. Box 35152, Chicago, Il 60707-0152 and someone will be in touch with you.
Disgusted said...
11:03 PM
So Burke is hanging out at Gibson's with Mickey Segal, the former CEO that embezzled $20,000,000 from his Near North Insurance Brokerage before his federal fraud conviction with 10 years in ClubFed.
Associating with a convicted felon is par for the course. It's the Chicago Way. Is anyone surprised? Birds of a feather...
9/08/2013 10:34:00 AM
If they couldn't associate with felons they would be all alone. Burke runs the finance committee, Segal sold "insurance" That was code to get certain things to happen. No buy the insurance, no get the city contract. Burke had many dealings with Segal over the years. Ya' think Segal is collecting for keeping his mouth shit during his Federal Vacation?
Just a final thought; how would the members of the organization you belong to feel, particularly the CPD members if you tried to bring either Weis or McCarthy in as members?
9/07/2013 07:13:00 PM
As I recall, and I belong to this organization, Weiss was honored on Law Enforcement night and McCarthy was a guest speaker. I find your position silly
The Irish keep electing Burke.
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