A Glimpse of the Future
Thanks to Wal-Mart and Xerox, we now have a preview of what will happen when the system fails. And fail it will - it's an unsustainable scheme. First, a bunch of EBT cards (electronic food stamps) failed to read a balance:
- Customers staged a disturbance, took unpaid for groceries and walked out of a Mississippi Walmart after they were unable to use their food stamp cards on Saturday.
People in 17 states found themselves unable to buy groceries with their food stamp debit-style cards Saturday after a routine check by vendor Xerox Corp. resulted in a system failure.
The mini riot, happened at the Walmart in Philadelphia, Miss. Shortly thereafter, managers decided to temporarily close the store.
And then when the system was fixed, numerous cards started reading "no limit." Any guesses as to whether people did the honest thing or did they try to take advantage? C'mon...you're (mostly) cops...you know exactly what happened:
- Wal-Mart Stores Inc and Xerox Corp blamed each other on Monday after Louisiana food stamp recipients stripped bare the shelves of some Walmart stores when a computer glitch left their debit cards with no limits.
Managers of Walmart stores in the small, north Louisiana towns of Springhill and Mansfield alerted police on Saturday night that throngs of shoppers had flooded into the stores and were buying groceries using electronic benefit cards that contained no credit limits.
EBT cards are debit-type cards issued under the state's food stamp program and coded to show the amount of money available for individuals to spend. Food stamps are a federal government subsidy program for low-income people that is administered by the states.
When word got out Saturday that the EBT cards were showing no limits, card holders rushed to area Walmarts to take advantage.
"Some people had eight or 10 shopping carts full of groceries," Springhill Police Chief Will Lynd said on Monday.
We sure the Department has a plan in place in case something like this happens around here.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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Free free free, give them all free stuff. The savages deserve it give them more free stuff.
Anonymous said...
O.T. Respect Your Supervisors!
Evidently in 025 on 3rd watch, officers are playing games with two supervisors. Whenever either Sgt. C.A. or Sgt. C.H. get on the air, someone cuts them off. If they ask for an assist car no one wants to help out. Both Sergeant's are professional and polite. So guys stop messing with them and grow up.
10/13/2013 07:26:00 AM
I think most of the officers are intimidated by Sgt. C.A.'s good looks. Also a lot of people are jealous of C.H.'s vast and deep knowledge of general orders, special orders and those training bulletins.
10/13/2013 09:03:00 PM
025 has always been filled with a bunch of goofs with no respect. they talk back to supervisors and write on the bathroom walls.
no professionalism anywhere in that building.
always making comments on the radios tying up the zone making for dangerous situations. always goofing around. everything is a joke.
and to make it worse. they actually think they are great coppers.
Hunger and incipient starvation will cause people to misbehave. When they are kept stressed out and on the edge too long, major initiators can cause them to snap and run amok. Usually a comforting governmental presence will calm them back into normalcy.
Hmmm, so the card showed 'no limit'? But, it was used to purchase carts full of groceries. And, the total amount of those groceries is registered on the card; it shows in the history of use of the card.
Doesn't it seem the FUTURE benefits on that card should and will be withheld to defray this week's 'impulse purchases'?
it was a test to see how fast they will have to put tanks in the streets when the system goes down for real..
imagine if they just cancel out the dollar -- one day you wake up and all those dollars that you're hording can't buy shit.
of course that would never happen right.. more likely would be the atm's stop working, bank account balances over a certain level just seized and if that's not enough money then you print new dollars and cancel the old dollars which you will be allowed to turn in the old dollars for a limited time for ten cents on the dollar.
if you think that's all crazy talk - then you don't know your history.
systemic collapse is near.
That was all staged for the new episode of American Blackout tv show shot by National Geographic
Recent headlines about the financial difficulties of local governments across the country have raised questions about the safety of participant assets in government-sponsored 457(b) deferred compensation plans.
Can the sponsoring employer access plan assets to cover budget shortfalls? In the event of a bankruptcy, can the employer's creditors gain access to plan assets? The answer to both questions is no.
Fortunately, the law on this is quite clear. Section 457(g) of the Internal Revenue Code provides that assets in "eligible" governmental deferred compensation plans – including the City of Chicago Deferred Compensation Plan – must be set aside for the exclusive benefit of the plan's participants and their beneficiaries. These assets cannot be diverted to any use other than paying benefits to participants or, upon the death of the participant, to their designated beneficiary(ies). To ensure compliance, all plan assets must be held in a trust, custodial account or annuity contract.
There are other types of deferred compensation plans, which do not contain Section 457(g) protections. These plans may have "substantial risk of forfeiture" provisions that do not apply to eligible governmental deferred compensation plans. But, as with all governmental deferred compensation plan participants, your assets in the City of Chicago Deferred Compensation Plan are protected for you and your beneficiary(ies) – by law.
When Obama shows me all of his passports and applications, his financial aid paperwork for colleges, and his birth certificate / selective service card... and then when I'm allowed to investigate the documents on all SIPR net and above networks; then I'll believe that the Anarchy has not begun in the US and Obama is not the Manchurian candidate.
Till then I believe that war has been waged on middle class patriotic red blooded Americans.
America is so screwed. After the merchandise is gone from the stores they will be coming to your neighborhood to rape and pillage.
Does the average family have the means to protect themselves? Some have no clue of their personal safety. Sorry folks, the police will not be available to help you.
OT: Anybody thought about a class action suit to force the city to meet its pension obligations under the state constitution before rham spends it all on BS?
Oh boy! Just can't imagine what will happen when this government starts running healthcare.
Any copper with a day on the job knows exactly how this is going to end. The animal will rove in packs stealing, robbing, pillaging, and raping and creating mayhem - anarchy will ensue, guaranteed! The Rodney King riots will look like a Sunday walk in the park. Stock up and get away from the populated areas as soon as you can.
Some taxpayer organization ought to file a class action lawsuit on behalf of taxpayers. Every single one of those people KNEW what their limit was. Their benefits should be terminated and put a brick on each and every one of them that they don't get ANY government benefits until they pay back what they stole.
I would pay money to be able to see all Wal-Marts videotapes of this.
Will those people who took advantage of the system be prosecuted? I guess this is the new America. All of those people who are dependent on the government for food, shelter and health care think they are free and have one over the government. In reality they are slaves to someone else. You can't even feed yourself and your family and they think they are free.
The entitlement people continue to grab more free shit while rahm raises my retiree health insurance.
The democratic system works. Wtf.
It is disturbing to see where our country is headed. It is headed towards a path of more and more government dependency. We used to live in a very aspirational country. People aspired to be better and if they saw someone who was more wealthy, more educated, had a better house they aspired for that. Now they see someone with more money or a better house they want to take it away.
That story has not gotten the investigative coverage it should have received. What if that 'Glitch' was an intentional Cyber-Attack or probe from Iran or China? Imagine the consequences of this happening nationwide; would there be looting, rioting absolute chaos? There are more people on Food Stamps today than ever before, could they be controlled if they were not fed? This may have been an attack on us and nobody seems to be playing it that way: Why?
Philadelphia, Mississippi. Hmmm, where have I heard that town before?
I commented on another website. Walmart is a huge supporter of food stamps (EBT) and has lobbied for them. JPMorgan runs the EBT programs makes big dollars doing it. Other companies that lobby for EBT are target,pepsi,coke and the whole snack food industr¥. Of course you have 7-11 and others who lobby for more EBT. There are some estimates that Walmart makes close to 30% of it's profits from EBT.
Then we have the farm groups who are also huge supporters of EBT. The farmers love it.
old retired guy
Hmmm, so the card showed 'no limit'? But, it was used to purchase carts full of groceries. And, the total amount of those groceries is registered on the card; it shows in the history of use of the card.
Doesn't it seem the FUTURE benefits on that card should and will be withheld to defray this week's 'impulse purchases'?
10/15/2013 12:20:00 AM
You'd think as much, but I doubt the gov't will go after any but the worst offenders. The gov't can't let them starve however, so don't expect them to try and recover more than a symbolic amount of the stolen goods.
Want to bet they used their Obama Phones to let their friends and family know of the breakdown?
OT: Anybody thought about a class action suit to force the city to meet its pension obligations under the state constitution before rham spends it all on BS?
OUTSTANDING IDEA. To bad we are all to fuckin stupid to stick together!!
The Welfare State is a ticking time bomb.
Life is free, Obama told me so!
Wonder if Soldier Field is going carry any Absolut Chicago, a new flavor.
The design of the bottle should have chalkie and a bullet proof vest on it. The scent should be one of bribe money....
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-absolut-vodka-absolut-chicago-20131014,0,6835293.story
OT: Anybody thought about a class action suit to force the city to meet its pension obligations under the state constitution before rham spends it all on BS?
No, you are the first one to think of it.
OT: Anybody thought about a class action suit to force the city to meet its pension obligations under the state constitution before rham spends it all on BS?
Great idea, call a lawyer and start one.
This is NOT the story I initially heard. I heard that the system was DOWN. I think the policy is to let them have a temporary voucher. Maybe $50.00??? And charge the card later.
But these Walmarts either out of kindness or fear for their stores let them go with "unlimited" temporary vouchers. Good news spread fast.
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NC
When Obama shows me all of his passports and applications, his financial aid paperwork for colleges, and his birth certificate / selective service card... and then when I'm allowed to investigate the documents on all SIPR net and above networks; then I'll believe that the Anarchy has not begun in the US and Obama is not the Manchurian candidate.
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You are a fucking idiot.
Find the people who used the system fraudulently and revoke their privileges. Let them find a job to support themselves. That will never happen though since they're democratic voters.
To the genius chirping that the city can't take the money out of the Deferred Compinsation plan it is also written that the city can not reduce or deminish our retirement benefits too. In fact it is stated in our state constitution. "Rahm the Rat" Dosen't seem to care about rules and laws he does what he wants and the spineless courts let him. I am taking the remained of my deferred comp in January. I hope I make it!
Wal-Mart f*cked up. When the system isn't working, they are supposed to limit all transactions to $50. They ignored that rule.
The government should go after Wal-Mart and all the dishonest folks who took advantage of the breakdown.
Hunger games, Soylent Green, Escape from New York, Minority Report...the nightmares are about to become your "daymares". Truth is not stranger than fiction. Fiction will soon become fact.
Sgt. C.H.(025) usually calls for a car when he does a traffic stop. He don't write tickets you know. He'll go out of his way to find nonsense and then call a car to clean it up. He has his nose so far up an Alderman's ass its not funny.
it was a test to see how fast they will have to put tanks in the streets when the system goes down for real..
imagine if they just cancel out the dollar -- one day you wake up and all those dollars that you're hording can't buy shit.
of course that would never happen right.. more likely would be the atm's stop working, bank account balances over a certain level just seized and if that's not enough money then you print new dollars and cancel the old dollars which you will be allowed to turn in the old dollars for a limited time for ten cents on the dollar.
if you think that's all crazy talk - then you don't know your history.
systemic collapse is near.
10/15/2013 12:22:00 AM
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I'm going to venture a guess that you have 200 cans of pork and beans currently in your basement.
OT
Border Patrol being treated like the CPD?
http://www.local2544.org/border-patrol-agents-impeded-no-charges-brought/
Apparently 18 USC 111 still only applies if an agent sustains serious injuries. How many times has the AUSA asked “How badly is the agent injured?” when presented with a case of impeding or assault on a federal officer? No serious injury sustained by an agent almost always = no prosecution. That has been a running joke for many years (along with the ridiculous threshold amounts of dope to trigger a prosecution). So when dozens of “protesters” impede, resist and otherwise interfere with Border Patrol agents and the carrying out of our duties, what happens? Nothing.
Remember...
You "greedy Cops" with "sweet early retirements" and "cush $100K pensions" are the enemy in the eyes of many.
The general public, the politicians, the Wall Street fraudsters who crashed the economy on the rocks and mainstream media have decided that it would be far better to declare war on YOU than these non-contributory mutts on the tax-payer/government tit for several generations...
Hey Policman!
How does it feel to be a second class citizen being walked backwards into "equality" with these non-contributory mutts because there are forces aligned against you because your pension funds are the last, relatively unmolested pots of "free money" left in the U.S.?
Remember Miriam Santos... Bless her heart. She saw what the dirty corporatist fucks behind Daley Inc. were trying to do with our pension money and they moved heaven and earth to rook her on some bullshit to move her out of the way for calling bullshit and putting a brick on what they were trying to do...
This pension blame game is all about out and out divesture to give to the Wall Street fraudsters who are giving Flamin' Tu-Tu a goodly part of his funding so he can stay in place by out-spending any mayoral challenger so he can finish the grand experiment taking place in Chicago so it can be used as a blueprint nationwide.
"If it's from Chicago, it's gotta be good!"
A public that happily makes war with their Police, will sadly make friends with the criminals on the criminals terms.
Nothing else need be said.
The die is cast...
The Police are the enemy.
Viva Hate...
anybody else think homicide victims in Chicago continue to receive link and other welfare benefits .
about the radios....better start pulling over those Every 24 towing towtrucks...they have radios that can key to the zone.
"But, as with all governmental deferred compensation plan participants, your assets in the City of Chicago Deferred Compensation Plan are protected for you and your beneficiary(ies) – by law."
. . . and our pensions are protected by Constitutional law - how's THAT working ?
Anonymous said...
Hmmm, so the card showed 'no limit'? But, it was used to purchase carts full of groceries. And, the total amount of those groceries is registered on the card; it shows in the history of use of the card.
Doesn't it seem the FUTURE benefits on that card should and will be withheld to defray this week's 'impulse purchases'?
10/15/2013 12:20:00 AM
The joke will be on them. You can bet your but they'll do this if for nothing else to avoid the overbudgeting.
Yeah, class action suit would be nice, but if it was ruled in favor of the plaintiffs, where do you think he's going to get that money? Raise our taxes. Dumb idea...
Anonymous said...
Hmmm, so the card showed 'no limit'? But, it was used to purchase carts full of groceries. And, the total amount of those groceries is registered on the card; it shows in the history of use of the card.
Doesn't it seem the FUTURE benefits on that card should and will be withheld to defray this week's 'impulse purchases'?
10/15/2013 12:20:00 AM
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That is the right thing to do, although you and I know it won't happen. These parasites will never be held accountable for behavior like that, it would be racist if they were! This is why our country is in the crapper!
But, as with all governmental deferred compensation plan participants, your assets in the City of Chicago Deferred Compensation Plan are protected for you and your beneficiary(ies) – by law.
10/15/2013 12:38:00 AM
Just like our CPD pensions are protected by the State of Illinois Constitution -- what a relief!
Follow the money, follow the link card, especially those that have participated in recent unbridled spending sprees and lock the users out until the future deposits cancel out the excesses of the spending sprees. And listen for the screams from those link card users who thought they wouldn't get caught. Slammed.
Anonymous said...OT: Anybody thought about a class action suit to force the city to meet its pension obligations under the state constitution before rham spends it all on BS?10/15/2013 04:09:00 AM
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Before the next pinhead gloms what they believe is another chance to union bust, both the state and the city have been repeatedly sued to force them to fund the pensions. In every case, the rulings all used the same excuse, the pension protection clause does not guarantee any funding levels, only that benefits can't be reduced. The trick is, does any new law guarantee funding levels that can't be diminished.
As long as pensioners are paid, there is nothing that can be done barring the latest real estate funding requirements.
I am "No Limit" type of guy myself.
What else did you expect to happen? All these welfare mongers know is to take take take. Why work when it's free? You want ssi- go to the soc sec office and apply for disability. All you need is a doctor to diagnose you as depressed, or have an addiction, or a low IQ, or back injury. The doctor will have no problem confirming your disability, as he will now have guaranteed income from all claims he will submit to medicaid for your lifetime treatment. You want medicaid- all you need to do is qualify for ssi. You want a free phone- you already get one if you qualify for one of the previously mentioned assistance programs. You will also qualify for that EBT card too. You want more money- have another kid. Being disabled doesn't disqualify you from having kids. Have as many as you want because if you are on ssi, they will give you additional money for them as well. Send them to public school, and they will get free breakfast, lunch, snacks and be exempt from paying for school fees/supplies. When the kid is old enough he/she can jump on the welfare wagon too- especially the girls. Get pregnant at 15 and have a kid or two then she will qualify for another special program called "thresholds"- its another wonderful government subsidized program where all unwed teens with kids get to live in an apartment building for free, they don't have to work, all food is free, they come and go freely, and they are supervised by staff workers all paid with tax dollars. Isn't welfare great?
P.S.- the above account is based on actual contact with those in the community through a decade of police work. This is NOT made up.
All these maggot politicians are screaming pension reform, how about welfare reform. We would save billions each year. But seeing how welfare is government sanctioned bribes for the democratic vote it will never happen.
The only curency that never devalues...5.56, .308, 9mm,
.45 acp, etc.
Lock and load friends.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
O.T. Respect Your Supervisors!
Evidently in 025 on 3rd watch, officers are playing games with two supervisors. Whenever either Sgt. C.A. or Sgt. C.H. get on the air, someone cuts them off. If they ask for an assist car no one wants to help out. Both Sergeant's are professional and polite. So guys stop messing with them and grow up.
10/13/2013 07:26:00 AM
I think most of the officers are intimidated by Sgt. C.A.'s good looks. Also a lot of people are jealous of C.H.'s vast and deep knowledge of general orders, special orders and those training bulletins.
10/13/2013 09:03:00 PM
025 has always been filled with a bunch of goofs with no respect. they talk back to supervisors and write on the bathroom walls.
no professionalism anywhere in that building.
always making comments on the radios tying up the zone making for dangerous situations. always goofing around. everything is a joke.
and to make it worse. they actually think they are great coppers.
10/15/2013 12:16:00 AM
Relax! Nothing malicious is ever intended. It's all in good nature. Yet you make a big deal out of it. Having fun and joking around is part of our culture. If any officer had malicious intent then worse things can happen, yet it hasn't. So relax. You don't like it, then go bid to another district. And yes, we are great police officers.
That's why I just bought another 200 rounds for my shotgun,civil unrest is coming tick tock.....
Each and everyone of those thieves should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Yet no one will do anything because they are afraid. If Walmart went ahead and pressed charges Jesse Jackson and Reverend Sharpton would be there in a heartbeat. Crying racism!
O.T. Respect Your Supervisors!
"...and to make it worse. they actually think they are great coppers."
10/15/2013 12:16:00 AM
Yeah... Butter won't melt in your mouth about all the legendary stupidvisors who popped out of the ground at 025.
A whole lot of the zombies in this parade of the damned are wearing white shirts.
If there ever was a time when you could highlight or show all in a bold font the comments at 12:22:00 AM on 10/15/2013 and 01:27:00 AM on 10/15/2013 would be worthy of two of those times.
The lame stream media reminds me of Baghdad Bob, remember he kept saying the troops not only were not coming, that they would never enter Baghdad. He said that all the way up until the day before Saddam's statue came down!
Give them as much Walmart items as they want. Just keep them away from my family.
Speaking of respect your supervisors, I was working VRI in 004 and a supervisor did a street stop @ 0230 in the morning. Nobody from 004 ever came to check on him, and yes he did go down on the air with the stop................
Look at this situation......this was just in two hours.....
What would happen in a REAL disaster situation.....
Are YOU prepared?
Upwards of 80% of WalMart customers use a government assistance card (EBT) for purchases.
That's the Welfare Presidents legacy in a nut sack.
How long before we wait in line for day old bread again?
It could have been a dry run by the government to see what will happen when the shit hits the fan. Not that it's unclear to POs how savages behave, but the government is working on become a totalitarian entity. Look around people.
"Hunger and incipient starvation will cause people to misbehave."
Incipient or corpulent?
That story has not gotten the investigative coverage it should have received. What if that 'Glitch' was an intentional Cyber-Attack or probe from Iran or China? Imagine the consequences of this happening nationwide; would there be looting, rioting absolute chaos? There are more people on Food Stamps today than ever before, could they be controlled if they were not fed? This may have been an attack on us and nobody seems to be playing it that way: Why?
10/15/2013 07:38:00 AM
Because Xerox says Xerox was updating Xerox' system and Xerox experienced a glitch that Xerox has identified and repaired.
Not a cyber terrorist. XEROX.
Before the next pinhead gloms what they believe is another chance to union bust, both the state and the city have been repeatedly sued to force them to fund the pensions. In every case, the rulings all used the same excuse, the pension protection clause does not guarantee any funding levels, only that benefits can't be reduced. The trick is, does any new law guarantee funding levels that can't be diminished.
Wrong, a bill passed and took effect Jan 1, 2011 mandating the city put in its required pension funding or the state by law cannot give the city its share of revenue sharing. The law has been passed and goes into effect 2015 and by 2040 it guarantees the pensions will be funded 80%. Thats the law right now, Rahn wants an extention and tried to get one by hjaving the sgt association agree to it
To the genius chirping that the city can't take the money out of the Deferred Compinsation plan it is also written that the city can not reduce or deminish our retirement benefits too. In fact it is stated in our state constitution. "Rahm the Rat" Dosen't seem to care about rules and laws he does what he wants and the spineless courts let him. I am taking the remained of my deferred comp in January. I hope I make it!
You are a complete fucking moron. Is he going to take the money out of your savings account too? Keep the tin foil wrapped around your head, he is reading your brain.
Sgt. Magic... Please refill your meds! The world would be such a better place.
Blogger john said...
I commented on another website. Walmart is a huge supporter of food stamps (EBT) and has lobbied for them. JPMorgan runs the EBT programs makes big dollars doing it. Other companies that lobby for EBT are target,pepsi,coke and the whole snack food industr¥. Of course you have 7-11 and others who lobby for more EBT. There are some estimates that Walmart makes close to 30% of it's profits from EBT.
Then we have the farm groups who are also huge supporters of EBT. The farmers love it.
old retired guy
10/15/2013 08:11:00 AM
Finally someone who actually thinks for themselves. Too often a lot of people just blame "the poor ghetto trash" for the ebt/food stamp program. A lot of people in between benefit. They benefit just as much as the person.
If you can't put food on your table then too fucking bad. How is that for motivation? Trust me, if that was the case, each and everyone of those people on ebt/food stamps would move heaven and earth to make money so they could eat. The only exception should be for people who truly need it; someone who is mentally retarded, a senior citizen who already has paid their dues, etc...
Time for the EBT video! All you have to do is F...!
EBT
old retired guy @
10/15/2013 08:11:00 AM "Then we have the farm groups who are also huge supporters of EBT. The farmers love it."
While I agree with most of your statements, I take exception to the farm group comment. There might be a few farmer cooperatives that support EBT (non-farmers headed by liberal corporate suits), but no actual farmer supports the proliferation of SNAP/EBT/WICK. I can vouch for my answer because I am a farmer. Those in my profession would much rather our crops feed productive citizens, the antitheses of the type of citizen that stole from the United States taxpayers this past Saturday afternoon.
Farmers are conservative by nature and respect those who are willing to breaking a sweat to earn an honest living. Breaking a sweat pushing loaded grocery carts of stolen merchandise, not so much.
Anyone surprised by this? They are parasites, and as long as the democrats keep giving them money to do nothing and make more babies they don't take care of, they will keep doing what they doing.
"Wal-Mart f*cked up. When the system isn't working, they are supposed to limit all transactions to $50. They ignored that rule.
The government should go after Wal-Mart and all the dishonest folks who took advantage of the breakdown."
All Walmart would have to do is argue (correctly) that if they did that the urban revruns would show up, call them evil racists, and make them pay a bunch of fines and get terrible press because our political and economic systems have both been subverted by white-collar pimps and hustlers.
I should have stated " farm groups" instead of farmers.
Otherwise, I stand by my statement. It is not just those on welfare that make out with this nonsense. Big Business makes out at least as much. Not many people look into that aspect.
old retired guy
Mt Greenwood Hillbilly said...
Hmmm, so the card showed 'no limit'? But, it was used to purchase carts full of groceries. And, the total amount of those groceries is registered on the card; it shows in the history of use of the card.
Doesn't it seem the FUTURE benefits on that card should and will be withheld to defray this week's 'impulse purchases'?
10/15/2013 12:20:00 AM
You'd think as much, but I doubt the gov't will go after any but the worst offenders. The gov't can't let them starve however, so don't expect them to try and recover more than a symbolic amount of the stolen goods.
10/15/2013 08:20:00 AM
I used to work in that field. Rest assured I have seen the State of Illinois go after people to recoup food stamps overpayments. Don't doubt that these other states , generally less wimpy than ours, aren't going to do the same.
Anonymous said...
old retired guy @
10/15/2013 08:11:00 AM "Then we have the farm groups who are also huge supporters of EBT. The farmers love it."
While I agree with most of your statements, I take exception to the farm group comment. There might be a few farmer cooperatives that support EBT (non-farmers headed by liberal corporate suits), but no actual farmer supports the proliferation of SNAP/EBT/WICK. I can vouch for my answer because I am a farmer. Those in my profession would much rather our crops feed productive citizens, the antitheses of the type of citizen that stole from the United States taxpayers this past Saturday afternoon.
Farmers are conservative by nature and respect those who are willing to breaking a sweat to earn an honest living. Breaking a sweat pushing loaded grocery carts of stolen merchandise, not so much.
10/15/2013 08:31:00 PM
While that's great and all..food stamps are USDA monies. And let's not pretend that "all farmers are created equal." My grandfather just passed and he's farmed almost his entire life. He basically died without a pot to piss in. If the government stopped supplying food stamps to whoever they can get on it, big time farmers would lose mega bucks. Those big time farmers have more say so than you or my grandfather ever did.
100 People Arrested For EBT Abuse
This is what America's taxes feeds.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4cf_1381882135
Illinois' middle-class tax hike
From: Ben VanMetre bvanmetre@illinoispolicy.org
Tue, Oct 15, 2013 11:37 am
State Rep. Naomi Jakobsson, D-Urbana, recently revealed a new progressive tax proposal with rates that hit Illinois’ middle and working classes hard.
Under current Illinois law, the individual income tax rate will be 3.75% in 2015. Under Jakobsson’s new plan, however, a higher 4% rate kicks in for people earning just $18,000. That income tax rate targets Illinois’ working class.
But Jakobsson’s progressive tax rates attack the middle class as well. Her 5% tax rate applies to people earning just $36,000. When an Illinoisan earns more than $58,000, Jakobsson’s tax rates jump to 6%, and again to 7% on income earned after $95,000 — nearly double the rate Illinoisans will pay in 2015.
It’s no surprise that Jakobsson’s progressive tax hike proposal targets the middle class — it’s how progressive income taxes work. That’s where a lot of the money is.
Just look at where the top progressive tax rates — the rates that are supposed to “make the rich pay their fair share” – start in other states.
In Georgia, the top tax rate of 6% is applied to all income earned above $7,000. In Idaho, the top rate of 7.4% kicks in at $10,350. And in Maine, the top rate of 6.84% starts at $20,900.
So don’t be fooled when lawmakers say a progressive income tax will only affect high-income earners. The newly proposed rates in Illinois make it clear that lawmakers are gearing up to raise tax rates on Illinois’ working- and middle-class residents.
Ben VanMetre
Senior Budget and Tax Policy Analyst
Illinois Policy Institute
190 S. LaSalle St.
Suite 1630
Chicago, Illinois 60603
At the union meeting tonight we learned that Mike Shields has lost his way. His integrity is gone by his appointing of his friends to hear the case bright against him over failing to send the city the letter.if he had any integrity he would have recused himself and let 2nd VP Frank Dimaria appoint the panel. Dougherty would have recused himself because he is considering a run for the presidency and he should not be allowed to pick the panel. Shields refused and wanted his friend Gorman to pick the panel, again no integrity. My friends we are at a crossroads with the FOP. When your leaders lose integrity it is time to look elsewhere. How can these guys represent us?
When questioned at the union meeting about the big increase in retiree healthcare Shields deferred to Ken Hauser to answer the question. The city is raising the cost of retiree healthcare high enough to force retiree's to opt out and into Obama care. Shields could only offer the tried and lost Korshak case now renamed the Underwood suit. This case has been lost before so this is just more FOP smoke and mirrors. All retiree's will get the shaft.
The very same urban jekyll's that have been a cancer on society.
No integrity with that lot.
12:49 is not an idiot.
I would like to see all that Obama paper work as well.
Gee, let's see if the government has the balls to pursue charges of theft to anyone who..
1: KNOWINGLY spent more on their "SNAP" cards that knew they didn't have that amount of money available in the past. And..
2: PERMANENTLY DEPRIVED the public of their taxes (MONEY!) that subsidized these socialist freebies!
As a taxpayer, I'll be happy to sign the complaints!
Oh wait, my bad. I guess they thought it was a raise for voting for OBOMACARE!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: Anybody thought about a class action suit to force the city to meet its pension obligations under the state constitution before rham spends it all on BS?
10/15/2013 04:09:00 AM
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Okay Genius, tell us just exactly when the city has not met retirement obligations. I must have missed that.
"Hmmm, so the card showed 'no limit'? But, it was used to purchase carts full of groceries. And, the total amount of those groceries is registered on the card; it shows in the history of use of the card.
Doesn't it seem the FUTURE benefits on that card should and will be withheld to defray this week's 'impulse purchases'?"
If the cards were "down", I highly doubt there's any recording of the transactions anywhere. It would have had to have been recorded manually, and if your store is in a state of chaos, what are the odds of that happening? Walmart probably thought they would get fully reimbursed by the government regardless.
As far as the people doing this, what, really, would you expect? They behave how they're raised. And if they've been raised to just grab as much as they can for free, well of course they're going to act like feral dogs. Try having a picnic in the park sometime. Every freeloader and their brother comes sniffing around, asking for free shit from you. It's ridiculous.
10/15/2013 07:50:00 PM
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I'm wrong about nothing, the only factual information posted is just that, fact. In regards to what I assume you were referring to, just because Madigan's law has mechanisms to ensure funding, nothing in it precludes the general assembly from giving the city a pass when they want. I'm well aware of this law, and nothing has changed in regard to the legislature granting pension holidays.
Anonymous said...
This is NOT the story I initially heard. I heard that the system was DOWN. I think the policy is to let them have a temporary voucher. Maybe $50.00??? And charge the card later.
But these Walmarts either out of kindness or fear for their stores let them go with "unlimited" temporary vouchers. Good news spread fast.
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10/15/2013 09:17:00 AM
Being a furloughed Federal worker, and waiting to see how much I would get paid last Saturday. I paid my bills and went and bought a few groceries to tied me over. Having to spend as little amount of money as possible I went to Food 4 less. I was amazed how empty the store was on a Saturday morning. To my surprise signs where up every saying sorry Link system down. Different story at Sam's Club. The Link system was down but Sam's was over riding the system and pushing the purchases through. The irony was here I am in line and the young girl in front of me with the designer jeans and expensive haircut with a cart full of junk food and stuff I only wish I could afford to purchase was using her link card.
025 has always been filled with a bunch of goofs with no respect. they talk back to supervisors and write on the bathroom walls.
no professionalism anywhere in that building.
always making comments on the radios tying up the zone making for dangerous situations. always goofing around. everything is a joke.
and to make it worse. they actually think they are great coppers.
10/15/2013 12:16:00 AM
I beg to differ.
Anonymous said...
O.T. Respect Your Supervisors!
Evidently in 025 on 3rd watch, officers are playing games with two supervisors. Whenever either Sgt. C.A. or Sgt. C.H. get on the air, someone cuts them off. If they ask for an assist car no one wants to help out. Both Sergeant's are professional and polite. So guys stop messing with them and grow up.
10/13/2013 07:26:00 AM
I think most of the officers are intimidated by Sgt. C.A.'s good looks. Also a lot of people are jealous of C.H.'s vast and deep knowledge of general orders, special orders and those training bulletins.
10/13/2013 09:03:00 PM
025 has always been filled with a bunch of goofs with no respect. they talk back to supervisors and write on the bathroom walls.
no professionalism anywhere in that building.
always making comments on the radios tying up the zone making for dangerous situations. always goofing around. everything is a joke.
and to make it worse. they actually think they are great coppers.
10/15/2013 12:16:00 AM
Relax! Nothing malicious is ever intended. It's all in good nature. Yet you make a big deal out of it. Having fun and joking around is part of our culture. If any officer had malicious intent then worse things can happen, yet it hasn't. So relax. You don't like it, then go bid to another district. And yes, we are great police officers.
10/15/2013 01:49:00 PM
025 is a dumping ground and has had goofs all along. Look at their stats and see the "quality" arrests they make. 025 is shitty all around and yes 025 coppers think they are the shit. And shit they are.
To put it in perspective if the city overpaid us or a glitch gave us extra benefits don't you think the city would take every last cent back from us??
Fuck these leeches. They knew damn well what their limit was. Get it all back from them and then toss them out of the program.
To 0805pm;
Sir, you must be the tool with the tin foil hat!
Evidently your ignorance (STUPIDITY!) didn't make you aware that the city ALREADY HAS CONTROL of the Deferred Compensation FUNDS! NRS only "manages" the fund just like BC/BS only "manages" our insurance. The city pays the bills/disbursements.
Example, If you are lucky enough to get an emergency withdrawal from the D.C. fund, Nationwide does not pay it out, THE CITY DOES in the form of a check from the CITY OF CHICAGO, NOT NRS!
So try and use a lil less hair gel and let your brain get some oxygen before you spout off about something you obviously know nothing about.
TO 10/16/2013 07:48:00 AM
EITHER YOU'VE BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK, OR STILL IN MOMMIES BASEMENT!
The PABF is about 7 BILLION underfunded moron! I or anyone else on the job never missed one pension contribution from our check!
No get off the blog RAHM or go back to drinking the koolaid tool!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
12:49 is not an idiot.
I would like to see all that Obama paper work as well.
10/16/2013 12:43:00 AM
Yeah, because then you can turn on your Wayback Machine and change things.
Time to restock air jordans purple pop and flamin hots ill bet there are still a bunch of fresh fruit and veggies left
High Tech Looting.
When questioned at the union meeting about the big increase in retiree healthcare Shields deferred to Ken Hauser to answer the question. The city is raising the cost of retiree healthcare high enough to force retiree's to opt out and into Obama care. Shields could only offer the tried and lost Korshak case now renamed the Underwood suit. This case has been lost before so this is just more FOP smoke and mirrors. All retiree's will get the shaft.
Not so sure about that The formula goes something like this. The city is the insurer and at the end of the year the city totals all the costs of the BC/BS. Until now they paid 55% of the cost, pension fund pays like 13% and the retirees pay the rest. Now whats changed it that the city will pay less than their 55% share in the next 3 years, the pension will pay their same 13% and the retirees will pick up the difference in premiums. That is how the formula works
Every year since I retired 7 years ago the city collects the monthly premiums(usually a little more than the costs are) and after the first of the year I am sent a refund on the overcharge of the premiums. My guess is the city does this just to make sure they have collected enough in premiums to cover the yearly cost of retirees healthcare instead of having to try and collect the additional costs from the retirees.
Sir, you must be the tool with the tin foil hat!
Evidently your ignorance (STUPIDITY!) didn't make you aware that the city ALREADY HAS CONTROL of the Deferred Compensation FUNDS! NRS only "manages" the fund just like BC/BS only "manages" our insurance. The city pays the bills/disbursements.
Example, If you are lucky enough to get an emergency withdrawal from the D.C. fund, Nationwide does not pay it out, THE CITY DOES in the form of a check from the CITY OF CHICAGO, NOT NRS!
So try and use a lil less hair gel and let your brain get some oxygen before you spout off about something you obviously know nothing about.
You might be right about that. My UBS stock account lists my name as the account holder and then my statement lists all of my stocks. But in fact all the stocks are held in the name of UBS so they can sell when they want. Its common for companies to do that when dealing with stocks and mutual funds. If you redeem a fund its redeemed in Nationwide title or name, not you as an individual
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