Criminal Charges in California?
If we were a firefighter, we'd be steaming mad about now and looking to organize some sort of show of support for one of our own:
- California prosecutors will determine if a firefighter will face charges in the death of a teen passenger who was aboard an Asiana Airlines jet that crashed at San Francisco International Airport. The girl was killed when a firetruck responding to the crash ran over her.
Investigators completed their probe into the incident last week and turned over their findings to prosecutors who will determine within the next two weeks if the firefighter broke any laws or whether it was an accident, said San Mateo County Assistant Dist. Atty. Al Serrato.
A plane crash is chaotic enough. A plane crash with survivors has to be hundreds of times more insane. A plane crash with survivors and bodies lying all over the tarmac, taxiways and grass...you get the picture. And they want to even consider criminal charges against the driver? We'd say "only in that liberal cesspool of California," but we can see it happening here, too.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
45 Comments:
its like when a dept or states attorney gives the results of a police involved shooting to a grand jury. Its protocol. Obviously the FF will not be charged with anything. Its a formality as many depts and counties have. Nothing really new here. The story is definitely written to get a rise out of people but its the uninformed media, what did you expect...
"beware the society that wages war against the people that protect it".
This is PC run amok or some lawyer looking for an easy payout or (most likely) both scenarios
Walk a mile in my shoes...
It's like the civilians who get put into 'shoot, don't shoot' scenarios. They nearly always shoot the innocents, once the adrenalin starts flowing and the stressors enter into the scenario.
But, I don't know how you put a bunch of civilians into the cab of a fire truck, driving at top speed into a plane crash site, steering that rig with foam covering the tarmac and adjacent surfaces, people screaming, survivors waving you in, radio blaring in your ear... but I'd be guessing they'd do way more damage than a trained first responder.
It's tragic that someone died, but there was no intent, no crime, no malicious or reckless act here. It's why they call them 'accidents'.
When the Big One hits and Cali-fornicate slides into the Pacific, it will sound like a giant toilet flushing.
The fucken liberal mentality.
BASTARDS!
Holy crap, it gets worse everyday. Where was the intent, just simply absurd. WTF is going on with idiots nowadays.
Kalifornia the land of fruits and nuts just keeps getting more idiotic. I'm sure the truck driver went out of his way to run over some one what asshole's these people are the poor guy probably feels terrible about the incident but "charges" what a bunch of insipid moronic boobs.
How about in Massachusetts where they want to pass a law that would fire cops for swearing? WHAT THE FUCK!!! DemocRATS and liberals hate the police!!
It's the city of Boxer,Feinstein and Pelosi. Nuff said
There are enough laws that we all probably break a few per day.
Sounds like first responders in Laughifornia should begin stoping at lights and stop signs enroute to emergencies.
At the airports use he perimeter roads or wait for a DA to guide emergency crews in.
By the way, where's the intent?
People in California live by their own unique and warped set of progressive cultural rules and morals. Some would even call it an insane fantasy world which is not governed by sense, common or otherwise. Large numbers of California peoples migrate to other states and spread their weird way of thinking.
Don't forget everything covered in fire extinguisher foam resulting from the crash, it's a horrible accident, nothing more.
There needs to be a fundamental change in America. Our citizens attack worse then would be killers towards first responders. With allowing lawsuits-punitive damages, possible criminal charges, demise of pensions - let alone going home at night. It's based on no decent jobs & fewer stable incomes. The nation is failing. Our leaders are terrible. As first responders, its easy to make us a target for the great animosity towards elected officials. When is enough enough ? An entire volume set can be written about the how, what Americans deserve, & what they should get, but first responders (military as well) actions & freedom of speech are limited.
Wow. Unreal.
What a bunch of fucking assholes! It's not like the driver was negligent in anyway. If they do go ahead and charge this firefighter then they will eventually do it to police officers. You might as well do your job according to strict policy. To cover your ass. The mere fact that they are even considering it is cause for concern.
UNBELIEVABLE!!!! Only in Jerry Brown (Gov Moonbeams) land. Maybe the firefighters should walk to the next crash.
Only in the land of left wing lunacy would this guy have to worry about such bullshit. I'm sure no one feels worse than the firefighter, but charging him would only compound the tragedy. He was doing his job, in good faith, and an accident occurred. It's ironic that the libtards want to hold someone accountable for this accident, but when the savages intentionally act like animals they choose to look the other way.
This is clearly someone looking to make a name for theirselves! Was it tragic? Yes. Was it preventable? Who knows. Was it intentional and criminal? Hell no.
Absolutely freaking ridiculous.
Only in a shitty State like California, is something like this possible!
That is why it is called the "Land of Fruits and Nuts"!
I would NEVER live in that fucking State and if it broke off into the Pacific Ocean, good ridden!
Da Pelon
Because that firefighter isn't already losing sleep over what happened. Lets pile some more sh*t on him.
Do nothing at work boys and girls. Protect yourselves. Two years to go and I quit this clown show.
I consider the "P" on the driving indicator (for "Park") the "Police" mode. Billy and I hit our spot and put our car into "P" for "Police" mode each night after roll call. Ah, lake front policing...
The leftists in California need to appease the Godless Chinese communists so they will throw a good guy to the wolves.
Fuck Califormia. Get a bad ass eartquake and take it into the Pacific.
It's getting to the point that a first responder should be the 2nd or 3rd on scene, after the dust settles, especially so in liberal areas.
pathetic, liberalism is a disease, a cancer.
OT - Just asking a question.
Comments on article about a NYPD undercover detective not intervening while that husband got pulled out of his car and beaten in that motorcycle incident in front of his wife and baby. He supposedly was not investigating that group, but was he was afraid his cover might be blown.
Professional opinions?
NC
its a homicide. it has to be investigated. like any other homicide.
I have seen CFD trucks doing over 50 mph entering intersections against a red light. I feel that they also are reckless and should be held accountable.
Unfortunately, what happens in California is a preview of what happens in the rest of the country in a few years. I could very easily see something similar to this occurring here in Chicago.
10/05/2013 02:27:00 AM I couldn't agree with you more. Our leadership both Democratic and Republican is terrible. What we need are people to return us to our core values, not the typical hack politicians that are forced on us by both parties. Who that might be, I don't know but if we don't wake up, our society is going to go the way of the Greeks and Romans. To those who might think that is far fetched, read some history.
Liberalism is a disease. However like alcoholism, liberalism can be controlled.
Um, isn't this taught in the academy? Intent and further actions to carry out the intent?
Sounds like a very, very unfortunate accident to me.
Anonymous said...
How about in Massachusetts where they want to pass a law that would fire cops for swearing? WHAT THE FUCK!!! DemocRATS and liberals hate the police!!
10/05/2013 12:54:00 AM
Love your comment. But BTW, you're fired.
I worked the American 191 crash in 1979 and its total chaos not to mention the dreams that will come no matter how tough you are
I really believe the family of the deaceased would rather let the matter be put to rest, but I'm certain they were contacted by some Dewey Cheatham & Howe late night personal injury law firm as well to represent the family in their moment of incredible tragedy and untimely loss of a beloved daughter.
Or is the D.A. up for reelection and needs a scapegoat.
Really surprised they haven't blamed LAPD yet for not controlling disaster traffic and posting bilingual signs and flags.
Only in Kalifornia. Give the State to Mexico, it'll solve many problems
"its like when a dept or states attorney gives the results of a police involved shooting to a grand jury. Its protocol.
Obviously the FF will not be charged with anything. Its a formality as many depts and counties have. Nothing really new here. The story is definitely written to get a rise out of people but its the uninformed media, what did you expect..."
I understand what you are saying and I think that for the most part, you are correct.
However, this is California. You are talking logic, sanity and reasonableness. In California those can be rare conditions and may not apply.
As for police shootings review, true. The USDOJ reviews all police shootings. The vast majority are mere pro-forma reviews as most police shootings are right (Contrary to what the shootee's family thinks.)
I have seen numerous fire trucks blow thru red lights at high speed blowing their horn making no effort to allow the traffic to clear. If a fire truck were to strike a car and kill its occupants driving like that on streets, a case could be made for criminal charges.
Perhaps fire truck drivers should take a look at the way they operate those trucks. This may be camel nose under the tent situation. next time the driver may be sacrificed.
But not this case. A plane crash, she was thrown from the plane and covered with foam. The firefighters knew that seconds counted.
What can say about the girl's death other than "It just wasn't her day?"
"I have seen CFD trucks doing over 50 mph entering intersections against a red light. I feel that they also are reckless and should be held accountable."
I agree!
Well unless they are coming to put out a fire at my house, then I demand to know why they weren't going 75 mph!
To 10/05/2013 05:19:00 PM
The crash happened in San Francisco, not Los Angeles.
This is the same state that allowed a law suit by the family of one of the North Hollywood Bank robbery offenders.
The total was eleven police officers shot and seven civilians. The two robbers died after firing more than a hundred rounds from AKs.
OT - Just asking a question.
Comments on article about a NYPD
Probably futile to physically intervene but might have been able to call 9-1-1 while the attention was elsewhere
Those aren't regular fire trucks that ran over the victim. It was a Crash Rig, the driver sits in the middle and the cab is about 15' up. Firefighter has to climb a ladder to get in. There is no way to see the ground clearly
To the unpublished:
Two out of three wrong, so we're deleting your comment. Go back and research who the senators are from California and then google where the republican presidential candidates have been from in the last 20 years. Oh, and Schwarzenegger was a blip, barely deserving of an (r) after his name.
Again unpublished dumbass:
15 republicans? As opposed to 38 democrats? That's what? 2-and-a-half times the representation?
Romney wasn't from California as you claimed. A vacation home in LaJolla isn't residence. You can't even remember what you typed?
Our point was Arnold as a small (r) republican - a RINO. His policies were left of center except in who proposed them.
Democrat entitlement spending has driven California into debt of something like $130-plus Billion.
Nice of you to gloss over the obvious misstep about what parties the US Senators belong to.
But they aren't liberals in a hotbed of liberalism? Stop drinking the kool-aid.
'A plane crash with survivors and bodies lying all over the tarmac, taxiways and grass..."
...under ten feet of hi-expand foam so maybe the fire will be quelled...
Just tryin to help.
Imagine lawsuit "Why was foam NOT used?" Ya can't win.
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