"Dead Weight"
An interesting concept:
- I have a relative who works in the Emmanuel administration. There is a term circulating around City Hall concerning the police department. It's "Dead Weight."
The city has been auditing activity of the CPD officers and comparing the activity to the surrounding suburbs and, of course, New York. The numbers are not good. CPD officers average substantially less tickets, arrests, contact cards, and other citations than every other department they have been compared to. The total salary including benefits, pension, and OT is higher than every other department in this study.
One solution, which may include the blog PIN addresses, is to fire anyone for cause that they can and simply deal with the legal fallout by publicly shaming the Police Board and the local judges into supporting the effort. What they want to do is secure an evaluation standard that they can use to fire officers who are not performing.
The bottom line is that the city wants to dramatically reduce police costs. They believe they can have a much smaller department that is more effective than the one they have now.
The trouble with Rahm's numbers is they can be bent any way the wind blows. Witness CompStat. And how does one compare a prolific ticket writer in someplace like 016 or 019 or even 022 with a copper in 006, 007, 011, 025 or any other district where open air drug markets and gunfire run rampant?
And there is certainly no way to put a number on something like "crimes prevented," especially in light of Rahm pouring million in overtime at VRI and other initiatives for the sole purpose of "high visibility" patrol and crime prevention.
And there is certainly no way to put a number on something like "crimes prevented," especially in light of Rahm pouring million in overtime at VRI and other initiatives for the sole purpose of "high visibility" patrol and crime prevention.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
170 Comments:
One thing that does surprise me, as a layman, is the number of obvious tickets that do not seem to be issued by the police. Seeing cars driving at night without headlights or only one working headlight is commonplace now. On side streets, there are parked cars left on jacks or ramps while in the street, and the patrol simply rides by. Commercial vans and "B" plates illegally parked. Vehicles parked in front of fire hydrants, etc.
Is this a staffing problem or do the present police officers dislike ticketing?
I'm all for firing non working dog asses that think their only job is to file reports. You're not a secretary you're a cop. Once again...the cause of the fall of a great society the unions...keep jag offs like that employed.
The biggest issue I feel this department has is that they never fire anyone in the academy. There always those that show right away that they have no interest in being the police. Get rid of the "dead weight" there and over time you will see a better more efficient policing force.
Hey Rahm, blow me.
Look in the mirror city hall!
I don't know about making more $$$ than the burbs. Some yes but others pay way better, sooner and have better benefits. Plus they are not forced to live there.
On a federal level it's called a RIF (reduction in force) our military goes through it every so often at the end of a conflict or war. Then we get ourselves in another conflict and have to rebuild a hollow military from the ground up. The military is starting to go through a RIF now.
I call bullshit. 1 cpd district generates more activity then any suburban dept.
Yeah a "relative" told you this... False.
Since the '90s the city has provided the police force that the public has demanded. And now the city will use the department to save the city money. Be careful what you wish for, there are consequences that will surely come back to bite the city and citizens in their asses. Crime does not scale back to meet the decline of the department.
This is what city politians, mayors office, and the 5th floor at Hq think of us, keep working that VRI sellouts!
If the police dept is "dead weight" then I could only imagine what they call the fire dept, those guys are a complete revenue drain, and provide no proactive service.
There is a term circulating around the police department concerning city hall.
It's " political corruption".
Scare tactics from an administration that is scared of the police. Blow it out your ass, flaming tutu.
At first blush I'd say that's complete nonsense.
Then when I factor in the psychopath Napolean running this city I say who knows.
Lest we forget this same psychopath is the same one who did the naked, in the shower, chest poking, has sent dead fish to people etc....
This psychopathic weasel has a palpatable disdain for us so you just never know.
Fortunately for me I can see the light at the end of the tunnel for my career..... now if I could just speed up the train so I can get there before Rahm and his buddy Rauner close the damn tunnel!!
Rahm could save a ton of money eliminating specialized units, house mouses and 2nd watch from getting duty availability and decreasing 3rd watch's. Duty availability is essentially shift differential.
Ticket and Parker production could be increased by granting officers $1 per citation issued. It works well on the east coast.
"CPD officers average substantially less tickets, arrests, contact cards, and other citations than every other department they have been compared to."
Well if crime is truly down, wouldn't this stand to reason?
There are fewer criminals and fewer violators. We're winning the war on crime!
Secondly, you cannot compare CPD to any of the suburbs. At best, you'd have to use a similarly-sized department, with similar crime problems to make a valid comparison, even if you measured the activity per capita.
I've seen this on SCC before:
A misdemeanor arrest is a failure by police to keep the peace.
A felony arrest is a failure by police to prevent a crime.
rb
Please stop there is a ton of dead weight still in this department. Let me help you find some look in every front office in the city.
Just imagine if they got rid of the overweight and the dead weight, that would leave just me. I could really rack up the overtime and VRI then. I hope this plan moves forward. More overtime, promoted through the ranks quickly, a 12B furlough, and I wouldn't have to share a locker with anyone. Keeping my fingers in leather gloves crossed!
Let me get this right. I have over twenty five years on this job. We're suppose to do something as in work? Nice time to tell me now. I'll get right on that this morning, after I have my free coffee and paper.
Why doesn't the department have a "Employee of the Week" program. Officers that really work hard can park in a designated spot near their building with a sign honoring their achievements? I use to work at Walmart, you got that and the choice of any single Hostess item as your reward. It was a true incentive.
Off Topic: I like to use the bathroom while I'm working. It provides me with a nice little personal, and a free water flush (not on my home meter). The department has gone to a cheaper paper which in the long run costs more money. I can't use just 5 or 6 sheets anymore. I actually have to wrap it around my hand several times to do the job right. Please rethink how you purchase city toilet paper, it will save lots of money and the budget in the long run.
It's a shame it took someone from New York to say what I've been saying from years. This job is filled with desk jockies, and do-nothings. We need more hard workers with investigative skills like the Central Detention lock up keepers. Listen to them interview your prisoner. Are you sick? Were you ever sick? Do you think you might get sick? Do you know anyone who is sick? Are you sick of me asking you about being sick? Looks like he needs to go to the hospital officer.
Wrong. - the CPD pension is not higher
ISP gets 80%
West Coast gets 90%
NYPD lets u retire and collect a pension after 20 regardless of age
They all get health care on retirement while many CPD will be paying out of pocket for Obamacare
Retirees born after 1955 get no COLA
New hire Tier 2 pension benefits have caps and higher minimum retirement age
Fact is CPD retirement package is among the lowest
Here's a little secret I learned years ago about being a police officer. Set your bar very low and you will always over achieve.
Complete nonsense.
Sounds just like the corporate thinking that has tran$formed Chicago Public Schools. Next, private companies will be hired to conduct more research. Private consultants will "advise" POs on how to improve their policing. Perhaps the police will even start bearing the blame for high crime. In CPS, the new buzz word for bad teaching is "sloppy thinking."
Anonymous said...
One thing that does surprise me, as a layman, is the number of obvious tickets that do not seem to be issued by the police. Seeing cars driving at night without headlights or only one working headlight is commonplace now. On side streets, there are parked cars left on jacks or ramps while in the street, and the patrol simply rides by. Commercial vans and "B" plates illegally parked. Vehicles parked in front of fire hydrants, etc.
Is this a staffing problem or do the present police officers dislike ticketing?
3/12/2014 12:13:00 AM
I used to have time for that when my district had over a hundred more officers than it does today. Now we run from call to call. Screw the stuff I used to do with discretionary time, the side streets, traffic violations etc. Dept. of Revenue civilians were hired to walk around for 8 hours writing those tickets on parked vehicles. Call Department of Revenue and complain.
Or you can join the assholes blaming the unions for everything. You are getting the police department Rahm and Garry McCarthy want, ask them. Rahm wants a department with even far fewer officers than it has now. But they will all be hard chargers who stick a broom up their ass so they can sweep as they run around.
And they will continue that level of activity for 29 years and a day and then retire to a life of watching their front door for home invaders.
Anonymous said...
Why doesn't the department have a "Employee of the Week" program. Officers that really work hard can park in a designated spot near their building with a sign honoring their achievements? I use to work at Walmart, you got that and the choice of any single Hostess item as your reward. It was a true incentive.
3/12/2014 04:59:00 AM
They closed the Hostess factory outlet store in my district. What now?
An employee who is treated with respect by their employer is a happy employee, a happy employee is a productive employee. Why is it so hard for mangement and city hall to figure this out. Instead we have to bitch about computers and their programs being outdated, cars falling apart, stations falling apart,short supplies and man power, unfair Merit promotions,contracts never settled without arbitration, being scrutinized by the politicians and reverends, bullshit cr's and law suits. And let's not forget the stellar reporting by the media. The only people who supports us, is ourselves and a few citizens that don't mind saying so. Some day people will realize that the police are a necessary evil. The only thing I am worried about is this department to far gone to be repaired.
It would be nice if this could be proven true & released to the media. I'm sure the public wants more tickets and less officers! All they do is complain about how quickly we respond and how we don't write enough tickets. Downsizing us right now is career suicide. This is not going to happen
There is dead weight in the police department but it takes 3 people to fill a little pot hole.
I wanna be a desk officer! I wanna be the Watch Secretary! I wanna be lock-up processing duties, I wanna be in a specialize unit, etc so then I can avoid this CENSUS COUNT!
sounds like a quota system. except they'll have to come up with a different name for it because y'all know what gary says.
you have to be careful about the words you use because the words conjure up images.
and so in the end if you wipe out crime for example then you should get written up for you successes cuz you're not writing enough tickets, contact cards, etc, etc.. when there's no reason for it anymore.
in other words fuck the crime then.
the city wants revenue generated via fines and fees. crime is a tool.
it's about the money and cpd are the strong arm enforcers for this corrupt clouted cult with a mission of shaking down the citizens.
bust the piss bums for public urination because the city is more likely to collect a fine from that. put a bullshit academic 'broken windows' marketing label on it to sell it as making progress on violent crime.
on the other hand you bust a thug and send them to the county that's costing the city big bucks baby.
what was it again something like 140 dollars a day to keep them in jail.
you're on the wrong side of the financial ledger my friend
bust the apple-picking bandits for snatching a smart phone and you're hurting apple, motorola mobility, samsung, att, or t-moblie's or some other politically connected corporations sales.
like how the hell do you expect these companies to fund the mayors, the aldermans, the state rep's or any other clouted political persons campaign fund raiser if they don't have customers buying replacements for their stolen phones.
we can't report chicago's gdp /economy is growing by busting the smart phone thief. nah man. bust the piss bum and stop fucking with the cities economy..lol
not to mention the economic impact of taking the street corner drug selling king-pins off the streets.
like it or not these people attract money and economic activity to the city and the political apparatus needs it and wants it anyway they can get it. so bust the piss bums
ergo, people with money that buy illicit drugs are attracted to this city by the gang bangers selling.
tourism.
no-one comes to chicago to see the piss bum so bust the very dangerous public urinators instead. that's the mission right
the city gets rewarded with federal obamacare money each time a person gets shot in chicago too -- don't they.
so don't take the shooters off the streets. they're creating jobs
these are you chicago job creators. not the clouted ivy-league ceo's and corporate exec's
i'd like to see an analysis of how many people those highly-educated corporate exec's and politicians with the so-called higher math and science scores have pulled out of poverty in places like englewood and westlawn compared to the illicit gang banger drug apparatus pulling hoodrats out of poverty over the last few years.
nah, i don't like it. don't want to glorify it. but it is what it is.
there's a recent report that ranks worst cities for upward mobility and chicago is number 11. the report states that it requires a min-wage worker to work 40 hours a week in order to afford just one city college class to better themselves.
now, what percentage of min. wage jobs even offer 40 hours a week today considering the corporate obamacare avoidance trick.
sure you can take a 2nd, a 3rd min wage job to get that tuition. but then who has the time to go to school.
the american dream is dead. 0110 squad, get a paper car, notify the crime lab
/sarcasm
fear is a powerful motivator.
fear is also a great distraction that destroys productivity and the creative process.
instead of concentrating on the job at hand you concentrate on the fear instead.
Figures don't lie, but liars do figure!
To layman, when you seeing the police driving around, it may look like we are driving around aimlessly. Let me assure you were are not. Most of the time we are on our way to do something somewhere. Now if you were waiting for the police to arrive at your house for lets just say a burglar report or even worse for some type of help. Would you like the police to stop and conduct traffic stops or write parking tickets instead of heading straight to answer your call for service?
Once he finds a way to get us to respond to 20 - 25% of the calls to 9-1-1 instead of 70% as we do now, he'll cut us down to 8,000. Los Angeles has only 8,000 and they respond to only about 20% of calls for a city larger than Chicago. Rahm knows this.
"Is this a staffing problem or do the present police officers dislike ticketing?"
--The nerve of people parking their pickup trucks, fucking loser I hope you are a citizen and not a PO!
I Can see them wanting the ability to fire people at will, but reduce the size of the department, rahm can just use his crayon to do that.
Speaking of dead weight, i hear mass transit is being talked about. Disband, staff places like 95th, Midway,
O'Hare with district personnel. Those districts would get bodies from MTU. Special employment would be expanded to cover the rail side. Districts are responding to most jobs already is the thinking.
These fuck heads at city hall are trying to have their "crime is down" propaganda talking point both ways...
If you crooked greedy pricks want revenue so badly then offer to share some of the proceeds.
Or are you afraid the police will tear the complete and total ass off of downtown, near north and the shit bird sides of the city and leave the tax payers alone?
"Second Servin'" Ervin will belly bump rahm's high, narrow and tight ass into oblivion.
"No no no! You cops CAN'T do that! That's not how it's supposed to go!"
I wish you tough working coppers put as much effort into keeping benefits and getting good contracts. We couldnt even vote the fop dead weight out. Most of you hard chargers would still work even if rahmy took your wages away. I answer my calls and come clear right away. Just because I dont want to live my life wearing a uniform 23 hours a day and always be in court doesnt mean im not effective. Sickening.
Come on, SCC - this is City Hall trolling again. Why do you reprint this crap?
Comments that start with "I have a friend.......or I have a relative......." are usually BS.
How do we rate in domestics handled? I'm sure we spend more time there than anything else.
Well, how many cops in our department do nothing? How many guys go out here and bring in 2 parkersfor their tour. They aren't exactly preventing crime either. These people are the first ones to bitch about being underpaid. Maybe it's time to trim the fat.
I did my part and retired, 55 is too old for chasing fools!
Drudge is reporting that Da Mayor is a serious dark horse contender for Dem. presidential pick in 2016. Is anyone surprised?
Rahm could save a ton of money eliminating specialized units, house mouses and 2nd watch from getting duty availability and decreasing 3rd watch's. Duty availability is essentially shift differential.
Ticket and Parker production could be increased by granting officers $1 per citation issued. It works well on the east coast.
3/12/2014 03:28:00 AM
That's fine. You can have my duty availability, but then I want to be Monday-Friday with a consistent start time on 2nd watch.
Here's something enlightening we do lead all those departments in Homicides, recovered guns, robberies and burglaries and more gangs..so you see we do lead in some stats.
As a retired sergeant, I can say that many on my watch did little or nothing. They did not write tickets and did not make arrests, took way too much time for lunch and dogged the calls. There was nothing we could do to them and they knew it. The watch commander did not have any balls and wanted to be everyones buddy. Sergeants who tried to do something had their cars damaged and got calls to their homes. It is about time some of these dogs are fired. You want to work in the suburban departments? Go ahead. You will never get away with what goes on in the CPD. Never.
how about they start getting rid of 25 dead weight aldermen!
if they think cpd is dead weight what do they say about cfd!
Dear Super chargers. My job is to deter crime. Since we are comparing Chicago Police To Suburban departments....
Suburbs...
Nice new clean well maintained squad cars.
CPD....
Broken down cars not maintained with up to 130,000 miles on them. Plus, not enough cars for patrol. Officers wait sometimes up to 2 hours for a car.
Suburbs...
Nice clean stations with bullet proof glass at the front desk.
CPD...
Wide open front desk area leaving all Officers vulnerable to an attack.
Suburbs..
Working computers in squad cars.
CPD... 50% don't work and the other 50% work like crap.
So you see... crap in = crap out.
will they fire the CLOUTED dog asses too? or just the one's that don't have the royal blood?
Anonymous said...
This is what city politians, mayors office, and the 5th floor at Hq think of us, keep working that VRI sellouts!
3/12/2014 01:19:00 AM
Fuckin'-A-Skippy! You assholes that work VRI and Special are playing right into The Flaming Tutu's hands.
Dumbasses.
Anonymous said...
I don't know about making more $$$ than the burbs. Some yes but others pay way better, sooner and have better benefits. Plus they are not forced to live there.
3/12/2014 12:33:00 AM
ya, if you work for the burbs you do don't HAVE to live in Chi-raq
Yet we still have F-I-F-T-Y, that's 50 Aldercreatures.
I love this shit, with the number of Chicago Politicians and Alderman who are a waste of space, it's the Police Department that has the Dead Weight problem.
Anonymous said...
Why doesn't the department have a "Employee of the Week" program. Officers that really work hard can park in a designated spot near their building with a sign honoring their achievements? I use to work at Walmart, you got that and the choice of any single Hostess item as your reward. It was a true incentive.
3/12/2014 04:59:00 AM
This has to be a joke. No po could ever have written this and been serious.
The reality is government has outgrown the tax base and politicians will sacrifice whatever it takes to survive/steal. Necessary government agencies like police & fire need to work with the taxpayers to expose the political frauds who are choking the entire country, or else face complete collapse of the system. How did your unions allow pensions to be co-mingled and lost with other government workers? I am amazed that the teachers unions lost control of their pensions to these self serving bureaucrats and still protect and elect them. Before endorsing a candidate, ask the question; What have you accomplished that will help secure my family's future.
This is not you father's Democratic party.
Let's face it - like everywhere, including city hall, there is a lot of dead weight. I'm all for RIF across the board, including CPD. You may have the right headcount, but you officers can't honestly tell me that there are a lot of useless officers (house mouses, brutality cases, quota babies, fucktards, merit hacks and other losers) who shouldn't be tossed on their asses?
Anonymous said...
Why doesn't the department have a "Employee of the Week" program. Officers that really work hard can park in a designated spot near their building with a sign honoring their achievements? I use to work at Walmart, you got that and the choice of any single Hostess item as your reward. It was a true incentive.
3/12/2014 04:59:00 AM
LOOK! A genius AND a early riser.
The Hostess offering ALONE would be just about enough to reverse ANY measurable crime statistic.
Why can't we get policy making leadership like this that is willing to think OUTSIDE the Twinkie box ???
This is what city politians, mayors office, and the 5th floor at Hq think of us, keep working that VRI sellouts!
OUTSTANDING!
Anonymous said...
Rahm could save a ton of money eliminating specialized units, house mouses and 2nd watch from getting duty availability and decreasing 3rd watch's. Duty availability is essentially shift differential.
Ticket and Parker production could be increased by granting officers $1 per citation issued. It works well on the east coast.
3/12/2014 03:28:00 AM
Instead of a dollar going to the officer how about $5 of every paid ticket going to the pension fund. Win/win for everyone.
Anonymous said...
One thing that does surprise me, as a layman, is the number of obvious tickets that do not seem to be issued by the police. Seeing cars driving at night without headlights or only one working headlight is commonplace now. On side streets, there are parked cars left on jacks or ramps while in the street, and the patrol simply rides by. Commercial vans and "B" plates illegally parked. Vehicles parked in front of fire hydrants, etc.
Is this a staffing problem or do the present police officers dislike ticketing?
3/12/2014 12:13:00 AM
As a layman, take a ride over to 50 w washington, and be a spectator to see what happens when cases are called before the judge.
Case is called.
Judge says "no license, no insurance? Are you thinking of getting them?" If so, case continued. If not, case continued to allow the defendant to think about it.
It's a joke, and many coppers don't want to be bothered with it anymore.
Let's see we have
1000 sgts
500 lts
50 XO's
500 gold stars??
How tickets do they write?
Is this a staffing problem or do the present police officers dislike ticketing?
Becareful what you wish for.
Working in patrol we usually are allowed some leeway in issuing tickets.
BUT.....I can always enforce the laws and municiple codes of this great city of Chicago to the letter. So if City Hall starts putting the heat down on me for not doing my job, don't MF me next time I stop you for speeding because you are late for picking up little Billy from school.
Anonymous said...
Why doesn't the department have a "Employee of the Week" program. Officers that really work hard can park in a designated spot near their building with a sign honoring their achievements? I use to work at Walmart, you got that and the choice of any single Hostess item as your reward. It was a true incentive.
3/12/2014 04:59:00 AM
Cause I'd be throwing my unfinished coffee and uneaten donuts all over that car. burp!
Dead Weight ... First we have CAPS, Neighborhood Relations, Senior Services, News Affairs, Crossing Guard Supvs, School Units, Office Dollies, Asst Office Dollies, Acting Assistants to the Office Dollies.
Then you have Patrol, 3 watches and a rotating day off.
Where can we weed out the unproductive?
It's not just CPD where stats are down per officer. Even suburban police are doing way less. It doesn't pay to be aggressive, and all cops know it. I started 18yrs ago and there was fear of the police then. Absolutely no fear now.
I'm all for firing non working dog asses that think their only job is to file reports. You're not a secretary you're a cop. Once again...the cause of the fall of a great society the unions...keep jag offs like that employed.
3/12/2014 12:14:00 AM
Hey son, get off your PPO status and get a couple gold bars on your sleeve and then spout your bull shit. It's apparent you've never had a law suit for doing your job yet. The faster you learn that you're not wanted nor liked and that you are obligated to take reports and back up your co workers, the better his job will be for you. Now go get yourself a clue and stop posting till you know what you're talking about.
Yea and at the areas they can have Dick of the week! HA,HA you J.O.
Dead Weight.
Lets see:
Public Transportation
Airport Units
Various District Tact Teams
Various District Bike Teams
Inside Dollies
Yep. There may be more, but I can see where this is coming.
Cruiser Cop here with a wink and a nod of information. My supervisor says I'm completely useless. I had to correct him immediately and inform him that I can always be used as a bad example.
Never rush into doing anything. This new thought should take months if not years of planning and think tanks. I'll be ready to jump on the band wagon by then. OOPS, I'll be retired already. My Bad.
I thought getting event numbers was doing a good job and helping people. Sometimes this job really confuses me.
With the revrunds crying racism whenever one of their flock gets pinched, and the city assuming every cop is guilty of abuse until proven innocent, why would anyone expect contact numbers to go anywhere but down?
Sometimes there are legit reasons for writing movers and parkers, but it's bad community relations, and a source of revenue for a city which no longer has the good citizens interests at heart.
The politicians want to hide behind rules, regs, and stacks of computer generated paperwork because they're a bunch of knock-kneed pussies who pander to the noisy neighborhood extortionists.
Crime isn't down anywhere, it's simply evolving and spreading, and the city is corrupt to the core.
Kliine's program of making inside help work the field one day a week was great. Remember the crying? Was that from productive police officers? Most of the pussies never wanted to be the police and are afraid like the dip shit in New Affairs who is sueing now because she may be in danger on the street in her new assignment.
Remember the old efficiency cards insiders city wide got high nineties and street people got 87 if you were the ticket guy anyone else low 80's maybe they could bring that up in their equation of dead wood!
How about calls for service. I bet CPD responds to a lot more calls.
The sooner Feb 2015 gets here, the better this city will be.This is nothing more than the mayor doing what he has done to the teachers, to the CPD. CFD you're on the lists too. Rahm thinks he is better than any city worker No Matter Who You Are! He has NO appreciation for what we do. Hunker ... watch your back.....and vote in a new mayor.
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They should start with Mass Transit!!!
Monterrey security has more police activity than the whole unit combined! Isn't that right T.S!
So basically it's a numbers game same as it always was.
Sometimes we all need a nudge or kick in the ass to get us going. Nothing wrong with an honest days work for a honest days wage. I'm not much of a go getter but I can be a cheerleader for those who go out and get. Go Team !! Did anyone see my crossword puzzle that I photo copied earlier. I hate getting older I keep forgetting everything.
12:17 am
Well said.
Also note that there have been many PPO's that the FTO's failed, some several times, and still the department refuses to take action.
It has become such a joke that there were officers that felt (seriously) that they should fail several PPOs on their 3rd cycle, just to keep them in the district for a refresher cycle (to keep them from getting stuck with the foot patrol bs, because they were really good ppos/officers.)
prior to "CAPS" the Chicago Police Department made more arrests,(both per capita and actual numbers)and seized more guns than any department in the nation. Under "CAPS" arrests and activity were no longer considered a measure of success or effectiveness, consequently they both went down and several hiring generations of Police Officers were not raised on the "mover & parker a day keeps the boss away" philosophy. Thanks again Richie
"Anonymous said...
Why doesn't the department have a "Employee of the Week" program. Officers that really work hard can park in a designated spot near their building with a sign honoring their achievements? I use to work at Walmart, you got that and the choice of any single Hostess item as your reward. It was a true incentive."
3/12/2014 04:59:00 AM
Apparently YOUR choice of any single Hostess product was always the... Ho-Ho!
Thanks for the laugh.
Maybe they should look into that union contract thing.....
Does this include the command staff as well ? That's where a majority of the dead weight is. Just look at Barb "B.J." West of the once proud 015. Dip shits like her promote dead weight, people like her are cancer and infect everyone around them. When she spouts off about what she used to do in patrol makes me shit my pants and vomit at the same time. Officers do not want to produce for people like her.
Start with CAPS, then move to the concept of too many chiefs and not enough indians. Next step would be do away with merit promotions.
This would be a start.
Nothing will change until the bosses start actually getting dumped
Time to cut the pay of those "managers" that allowed this problem to occur
VRI to END in JUNE !!!
According to good source at 35th Street, City Hall wants the current VRI Overtime program to END in June of this year.
The department now has 908 recruits that have been hired since 5 October 2012.
Since these recruits are still in a probationary status, the department can assign them from 044 to units 211, 212 and 213 (Bureau of Patrol South, Central and North) or for that matter assign them to the Violence Reduction Initiative Units 711 - North or 712 - South.
This will be more than enough to fill the 20 violence zones.
The money was good while it lasted! If you bought a Porsche like the nitwit on the Southside with your VRI money I hope it's paid off !!
how about offering an EARLY RETIREMENT INCENTIVE for cops over 45!u save money on salary and pension for new hires!
Well lookie here...If 8 peeps weren't on the medical/iod and you didn't need 4 peeps for the Irish parade on Sunday from each district on 2 watches, maybe you'd have a little more revenue.
How about VRI work the parade?
When you cut the number of officers on the watch by ~10% a year for the last 3 or 4 years, what do you expect? Keep denying CU and shortening furlos and contract negotiations at a snails pace. Add punitive damages to the equation and viola! dead weight.
Anonymous said...
The biggest issue I feel this department has is that they never fire anyone in the academy. There always those that show right away that they have no interest in being the police. Get rid of the "dead weight" there and over time you will see a better more efficient policing force.
3/12/2014 12:17:00 AM
Fire recruits? Lodding was in charge for 5 years and unfortunately standards dropped to a low level. It was very rare to dismiss any non-performing recruit. What you should be concerned with are the quality of FTO's. How many recruits in the last year did not see a district for several months. They were assigned to the box and school crossings. Told to do nothing for months and stay on their assigned post. After a few months they are finally assigned to a district. WTF! Great way to kill motivation.
Dead weight? What do the aldermen and their staffs provide or generate, in comparison? Or all the other levels of administration and bureaucracy and ghost payrolling?
There should not be any sworn officers doing any administrative duties. They were hired as police officers and should be on the street period!
I'm all for firing non working dog asses that think their only job is to file reports. You're not a secretary you're a cop. Once again...the cause of the fall of a great society the unions...keep jag offs like that employed.
3/12/2014 12:14:00 AM
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Ha ha ha
Tell that to the broad from news affairs that is suing!
Speaking of "dead weight" what about cutting the City Council in half?
How come every time that subject comes up it seems to quietly go away.?
Hey Rahm... Fuck You .
You want to look into dead weight start taking a look at your office, your staff, your Council etc.
Rahm could save a ton of money eliminating specialized units, house mouses and 2nd watch from getting duty availability and decreasing 3rd watch's. Duty availability is essentially shift differential.
Ticket and Parker production could be increased by granting officers $1 per citation issued. It works well on the east coast.
You are a class A Asshat. It's infighting and jealousy like this that makes Rahm get a chubby.
Corruption is why CPD makes fewer arrests. A few corrupt Officers, almost all of Chicago politicians are corrupt. Cong. Danny Davis had the nerve to flash gang signs on TV, channel 7-ABC. Davis leaned back and appeared to pretend to remove his shoes. Sex offending gang bangers flash this at female victims. Now Davis is being mentioned as a mayoral candidate. Rahm is still a one term mayor even if CPD is now blamed for out of control crime.
Crime is down yet they get angry when you don't bring in activity. No way to please !
Layman,
It's not about liking it or not liking it. Sometimes there are more serious issues that need to be addressed before sticking it to the little old lady that forgot to turn on her lights. Let's not forget that those who do wrong and get caught often want to paint us as going out and harassing people. Everyone thinks they're an exception to the rules. 90% of the complaints I've had involve traffic tickets. People complain of rudeness but can't provide specifics, or they dispute that they committed a violation: I had the wrong car or stopped them because of their race.
There's a bill up now that previously failed in 2010 that would make it illegal for departments to set quotas and compare the performance of one officer to another to evaluate performance. I wish we could be privvy to how Rahm is going to waste dollars and resources fighting it.
Too bad the term 'Dead Weight' isn't applied to the 50 members of the city council.
Thanks to those who answered my question. What provoked my asking about tickets was that one night on Foster Avenue (between Pulaski and Nagle), I saw over twenty cars with no headlights or one headlight working. It seemed like a traffic safety issue to me.
So CPDs retirement package is the lowest and worst huh. Gee and all this time I thought FOP was fighting for us. You mean Frankie, Markie, Billie, and string bean lied to us?
Start now and rally around someone to run against this prick. We need a police or fireman to step up and announce a run for Mayor. Everyone come out and vote against Rahm or we face many more losses.
Anonymous said...
Why doesn't the department have a "Employee of the Week" program. Officers that really work hard can park in a designated spot near their building with a sign honoring their achievements? I use to work at Walmart, you got that and the choice of any single Hostess item as your reward. It was a true incentive.
3/12/2014 04:59:00 AM
Believe it or not but they actually had such an arrangement in the 5th District. If the spot was empty, I used it. Grade school stuff.
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...
How do we rate in domestics handled? I'm sure we spend more time there than anything else.
3/12/2014 08:07:00 AM
What???? No "Keese" you fool!???
The post is pretty much illegible in its incoherence.
Never mind the fact that "suburban departments" allegedly compared would not just hand over to Rahm all their officer activity just for our mayor to peruse for comparison at his pleasure, same for New York, which, for political purposes, probably also guards its police statistics.
Also, with the lack of hiring, funding, and poor quality of training for an ever-changing legal process, you don't suddenly use officers activity to arbitrarily compare one cop to another. 25 districts, 3 watches, each with patterns, demographics, and priorities distinct unto themselves...
Silly. Just silly.
I've worked in several districts and watches over the years, along with different details and teams, all with very different focus and mission.
Coppers who go around gloating or relishing the chance to stack their "activity" 'against' another officer... don't know what police work really means. Stopping somebody just to get their info for a contact card, like sandbagging soccer moms for a headlight, are just two examples of how low we've sunk to be pet like obedient dogs.
Tell your "relative" to go fuck himself!!! And Rahm too, let the police be the police!!! Write all the fucking tickets you can, parkers, no front plate no city sticker, no plate light or anything else you can think of!!! Fuck Rahm Emanuel and the rest of the fucking assholes on the 5th floor!!!!! You don't want to be a cop??? Go the fuck home!!!! is that clear??? Over and out!!!!
how about offering an EARLY RETIREMENT INCENTIVE for cops over 45!u save money on salary and pension for new hires!
Signed, I am 45.
3/12/2014 02:42:00 PM
Even better is the new federal OT review. I guess the federal accountants feel that government employees who are on salary as "professionals" are being discriminated against because they can't earn OT.
Way to spend more money that we do not have. More liberal money laundering to pander to their voters.
How about $10.00 of every ticket going into the Police Pension Fund?
Welcome to the Suburbs CPD!!
Anonymous said...
Hey Rahm, blow me.
3/12/2014 12:23:00 AM
Oh he will do more than that office...he will buttfuck you more wyas than you could imagine.
Go talk to some non-golden boy guys in the burbs and they will tell you what goes on.
New York has 34000 members over 4000 detectives we have about 800 detectives. Chicago has more murders than New York. Shit, there are Dets there that have never seen a dead body. So with all their free time the Dets out there write parkers. Big fucking deal. Rham you suck
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does this include the command staff as well ? That's where a majority of the dead weight is. Just look at Barb "B.J." West of the once proud 015. Dip shits like her promote dead weight, people like her are cancer and infect everyone around them. When she spouts off about what she used to do in patrol makes me shit my pants and vomit at the same time. Officers do not want to produce for people like her.
3/12/2014 01:36:00 PM
When West spouted off about her patrol days, did her nose grow or did her trousers spontaneously combust?
MTU to be disbanded before summer. Grant money already approved for more CTA Special Employment. 14 new CTA cars already ordered due by June. New bunch of Lts and Sgts being interviewed to take over Special. All Sgts and Lt to be reassigned. The Terrorism unit will be dissolved when grant money runs out in approx 18 months. Several key fixed posts responsibility of districts. CPD will answer directly to CTA Security Director. Special will be straight pay only and you can only work two a month. Last two closed door meetings have sealed MTU faith.
It's language like this that causes me to hit the Medical. Flu like symptoms are on the way.
" Early retirement for cops over 45"? The Pension fund as now constituted will be broke by 2020. Where is the money going to come from? Talk about the waste and the 2015 law that mandates money-- it aint going to happen. Wake up.
VRI to END in JUNE !!!
According to good source at 35th Street, City Hall wants the current VRI Overtime program to END in June of this year.
The department now has 908 recruits that have been hired since 5 October 2012.
Since these recruits are still in a probationary status, the department can assign them from 044 to units 211, 212 and 213 (Bureau of Patrol South, Central and North) or for that matter assign them to the Violence Reduction Initiative Units 711 - North or 712 - South.
This will be more than enough to fill the 20 violence zones.
The money was good while it lasted! If you bought a Porsche like the nitwit on the Southside with your VRI money I hope it's paid off !!
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I heard the same from some bosses at Compstat last week.
City hall wants a "slimmed down department"
Perhaps that is why they are making so many sergeants.
The poor new bastards will be stuck in these units with the 1.5 year wonders... WHAT A NIGHTMARE !
Give me free insurance at 50 and I'll leave next year.....
...or 80% and all the blunt I can smoke.....
...or I'll just hang around til 55.
Anonymous said...
Figures don't lie, but liars do figure!
3/12/2014 06:40:00 AM
If I hear this one more time on the blog, I'm going to SCREAM!!!!
This is the most over-used phrase on this blog!!!! Stop it whoever you are!
It's a shame it took someone from New York to say what I've been saying from years. This job is filled with desk jockies, and do-nothings. We need more hard workers with investigative skills like the Central Detention lock up keepers. Listen to them interview your prisoner. Are you sick? Were you ever sick? Do you think you might get sick? Do you know anyone who is sick? Are you sick of me asking you about being sick? Looks like he needs to go to the hospital officer.
I love you office!
Kliine's program of making inside help work the field one day a week was great. Remember the crying? Was that from productive police officers?
I didn't give a shit about the field thing, but what that did was increase my workload on the days I was inside, because no one picked up the slack.
Now, before you go and call me a crybaby, have you ever had to process movers and parkers in a working district? especially after a weekend? Believe me, it is not a fun job. If you think it is, try it sometime - I'm sure your citation clerk would love the help.
You would not believe the 100 different ways they want the dumb things counted - you'd think there were no computers in the world up to the task. How many rush hours, how many snow tows, how many bus stops. All done on a 'tally' sheet.
Hope the morons down there factor in the 70,000 plus gang members living in Chiraq! O yea and the 500 plus homicides here every year. They want arrests and tickets like the suburbs maybe we should long form every tvb and pimpy arrest we see, just like the suburbs too. It'll take a minute for every officer in the city to find one and be done for the day waiting on the one computer that works in the station in the city that doesn't work (Unless you are connected...ouch). Hmmmm wonder why they need to keep offering the test if this job is so great and easy and pays so well. News flash! Jag bags. It sucks working for Incompetent bosses in a cartel sanctuary city where the ghettos are out of control with shootings daily. Good luck with your small police jack asses!
All you liberal cocksu*kers got the exact police you wanted, the warm and fuzzy police. God forbid that the police actually put one of your voters in jail, or tell them to stop selling dope on the corner. You don't want to pay them just to be able to afford the double digit inflation of Chicago. You won't hire police so they can operate safely and protect the public. You let political revrunds and alderman determine MERIT promotions that have nothing to do with merit, just clout. Now there are a lot of problems you created and if you didn't create it you allowed it to continue. So go fu*k yourself RAHM. I'm renting my house out and stuffing my wife's wedding dress in the attic where only I could find it and moving to the suburbs where people actually get police service for their tax dollars instead of this circus act you and McDufas created with The Chicago Police Department. By the way the city was informed in 2011 that you had to start conforming to the actuarial study when it comes to making pension contributions to the police and fire pensions. Have you been saving because the bill is due in less than a year.
3/12/2014 10:37:00 AM
3 gold bars pretty damn close to my 4th, still WORKING in the ghetto, been sued 5 times, and will keep working. So go back to your paper kid. now do your damn job and shut up. Blaming lawsuits for not working you crybaby trash. You are a disgrace to those that came before us and lost their lives.
"CPD officers average substantially less tickets, arrests, contact cards, and other citations than every other department they have been compared to."
Well if crime is truly down, wouldn't this stand to reason?
There are fewer criminals and fewer violators. We're winning the war on crime!
Secondly, you cannot compare CPD to any of the suburbs. At best, you'd have to use a similarly-sized department, with similar crime problems to make a valid comparison, even if you measured the activity per capita.
I've seen this on SCC before:
A misdemeanor arrest is a failure by police to keep the peace.
A felony arrest is a failure by police to prevent a crime.
And don't forget to factor in the number of officers killed or injured by violent felons while they're comparing apples to oranges.
You can also throw in the number of shootings that CPD officers prevail in.
I'd like to know what cities & towns they're comparing us to.
Now is the time to go proactive and refute this nonsense.
We have over a thousand white shirts not generating any activity.
Case closed.
While he's comparing things, maybe it's time to release the findings of the infamous "Morale & Stress Survey" done while Weis was the superintendent.
Let's compare the other departments using that as a measuring tool.
Anonymous said...
I wish you tough working coppers put as much effort into keeping benefits and getting good contracts. We couldnt even vote the fop dead weight out. Most of you hard chargers would still work even if rahmy took your wages away. I answer my calls and come clear right away. Just because I dont want to live my life wearing a uniform 23 hours a day and always be in court doesnt mean im not effective. Sickening.
3/12/2014 07:38:00 AM
We did vote the dead weight out in 2001 when Dean Angelo, was the chairman of the trustees and on the contract negotiating committee and now you guys gave him the most votes for president. He lied to us in 2001 by agreeing with the city to have a percentage attached to our paycheck for healthcare. So that meant every time an officer got a step raise or a contract raise their healthcare cost would automatically go up and we launched him and all his buddies and now he's the greatest thing since sliced bread??? Leopards don't change their spots but do learn how to camouflage themselves.
"You want to work in the suburban departments? Go ahead. You will never get away with what goes on in the CPD. Never."
The city itself set the bar that low. This occurs not only on CPD, but throughout all the city departments, because of all the relatives hired.
You cannot expect more out of me when the alderman's cousin, working the beat next to mine doesn't do dick.
The overwhelming majority of coppers on CPD do their job. It's a small, small minority of people who don't have enough pride in themselves to do their job.
As long as Chicago hires who it hires, and it starts at the top, you'll never rid the city of this kind of behavior.
Let's see we have
1000 sgts
500 lts
In a lot of the suburbs, including the one I work in, the sergeants and lieutenants take jobs and write tickets.
VRI to END said...
VRI to END in JUNE !!!
According to good source at 35th Street, City Hall wants the current VRI Overtime program to END in June of this year.
The department now has 908 recruits that have been hired since 5 October 2012.
Since these recruits are still in a probationary status, the department can assign them from 044 to units 211, 212 and 213 (Bureau of Patrol South, Central and North) or for that matter assign them to the Violence Reduction Initiative Units 711 - North or 712 - South.
This will be more than enough to fill the 20 violence zones.
The money was good while it lasted! If you bought a Porsche like the nitwit on the Southside with your VRI money I hope it's paid off !!
3/12/2014 02:38:00 PM
We have on average 480 police officers retire per year. So since October 2012 we have lost 768 police officers. But what about that stretch where no officers were hired??
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that."
- Homer Simpson, July 10, 2004
Anonymous said...
I call bullshit. 1 cpd district generates more activity then any suburban dept.
3/12/2014 12:43:00 AM
In total yes. Not per officer. My department is small. The people that didn't do anything still brought in a mover and a parker a day unless it got busy. Not all burbs are the same, especially south.
Anonymous said...
Kliine's program of making inside help work the field one day a week was great. Remember the crying? Was that from productive police officers?
I didn't give a shit about the field thing, but what that did was increase my workload on the days I was inside, because no one picked up the slack.
Now, before you go and call me a crybaby, have you ever had to process movers and parkers in a working district? especially after a weekend? Believe me, it is not a fun job. If you think it is, try it sometime - I'm sure your citation clerk would love the help.
You would not believe the 100 different ways they want the dumb things counted - you'd think there were no computers in the world up to the task. How many rush hours, how many snow tows, how many bus stops. All done on a 'tally' sheet.
3/12/2014 10:35:00 PM
Do we really need a full duty officer to count things? Yes it is work but not for a full duty officer. Use a retired officer or a civilian to count things and answer phones. Do you have any idea how many full duty female officers are hidden in special units answering phones? Those spots were reserved for light or limited duty officers. Or for a officer recovering from a real disease. Smoke and mirrors.
3/12/2014 10:37:00 AM
3 gold bars pretty damn close to my 4th, still WORKING in the ghetto, been sued 5 times, and will keep working. So go back to your paper kid. now do your damn job and shut up. Blaming lawsuits for not working you crybaby trash. You are a disgrace to those that came before us and lost their lives.
3/13/2014 12:39:00 AM
Liar, you don't get a 4th, you get a star
Just wait until Rahm gets his "super cops."
Beware of what you ask for.
in 1994 there were over 900 homicides
now ... 500?
The problem is Rahm and McCarthy watch TV shows like "Chicago PD" ... and they believe it.
Hey Rahm ... Barney Miller re-runs are on MeTV. Check it out.
Just wait til the pensions get slashed by 50%....its coming!!
CPD joins Chiefs Challenge!!!
It's a small, small minority of people who don't have enough pride in themselves to do their job.
Well I did my job and then some for the first 7 years. Then realized very quickly that a copper with a head on their shoulders, that could think for themselves has nowhere to go on this department. Answer your calls, come clear right away, write a parker or 2, and go home. Just like its the bosses discretion to let you take time due. Its my discretion if I write a ticket. You goofballs doing all those contact cards.... better put everything in the Mrs name. Do your 20 and get out. Have another career waiting, you willbe glad you did. I am so close to leaving I could pee my pants. Either you be your own person.... orbe the typical ass kissing merit hopeful a d sellyour soul.
Blaming lawsuits for not working you crybaby trash. You are a disgrace to those that came before us and lost their lives.
Here is a pri e example of those that have nothing in their lives but this fucked up department. They are afraid to retire. Theyk ow that the dirt nap will bemright around the corner because they have nothing left to do. Sued 5 times huh....you must have a chinamen saving yourass. Bill Cozzi was a dam fine hard working copper. Needi say more. You want my best, then treat us all like we are the best. 80% of most white shirts were dogs before they got promoted. Then all of a sudden they are nu bers people. Fuck off
3/13/2014 12:34:00 AM
OUTSTANDING.. Hit nail right on the head.
t's a shame it took someone from New York to say what I've been saying from years. This job is filled with desk jockies, and do-nothings. We need more hard workers with investigative skills like the Central Detention lock up keepers. Listen to them interview your prisoner. Are you sick? Were you ever sick? Do you think you might get sick? Do you know anyone who is sick? Are you sick of me asking you about being sick? Looks like he needs to go to the hospital officer.
Now that is some funny shit
As a retired sergeant, I can say that many on my watch did little or nothing. They did not write tickets and did not make arrests, took way too much time for lunch and dogged the calls. There was nothing we could do to them and they knew it. The watch commander did not have any balls and wanted to be everyones buddy. Sergeants who tried to do something had their cars damaged and got calls to their homes. It is about time some of these dogs are fired. You want to work in the suburban departments? Go ahead. You will never get away with what goes on in the CPD. Never.
3/12/2014 08:26:00 AM
Thank god your retired...and retarded
Vri is not ending in June I love you fools who post this shit. Guys and gals with 5 or 10 years on the job. Your jealous you can't get it. Number of days you can get is being cut to three. Stop the rumors
dead weight huh--- I'm starting a traffic mission in the 4200 block of hermitage and everyone gets a stack of bananas courtesy of our mayor rahmbo--- that IVC book is very thick and we have to enforce the law....
If the police dept is "dead weight" then I could only imagine what they call the fire dept, those guys are a complete revenue drain, and provide no proactive service
Hey! You can't say that about "America's Heroes".
Anonymous said...
We have over a thousand white shirts not generating any activity.
Case closed.
3/13/2014 12:42:00 AM
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Not true, one of our Sgts told us he has more activity than most of us. He mentioned arrests and I decided his name would never appear on one of my arrest reports except in the narrative, where he won't get credit for anything. And don't forget, he's not stupid, he told us so.
/12/2014 10:37:00 AM
3 gold bars pretty damn close to my 4th, still WORKING in the ghetto, been sued 5 times, and will keep working. So go back to your paper kid. now do your damn job and shut up. Blaming lawsuits for not working you crybaby trash. You are a disgrace to those that came before us and lost their lives.
3/13/2014
You will never get the fourth gold bar. When that time comes they replace the 3 gold bars with a gold star.
Keep up the good work and its nice to hear this from current police.
old retired guy.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
how about offering an EARLY RETIREMENT INCENTIVE for cops over 45!u save money on salary and pension for new hires!
Signed, I am 45.
3/12/2014 02:42:00 PM
3/12/2014 07:22:00 PM
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while we're at it, how about early retirement incentives when we turn thirty? I'm on board! Oh, make it five years of service. Bankrupt that pension fund! Do it now!
You can't compare city P/O's work to Suburb P/O's work it's a different world and no disrespect for the Suburban Police bad things can happen to us anywhere but the work volume and the crime volume are entirely different.As far as the NYPD goes they are trained better have tons of modern equipment and assets that we can only dream of because of Daley and Rham who won't even bring us up to staffing levels. This is all politically generated this city is not safe and people are finding this out on a daily basis and talk about "dead weight" everyone in city hall fits that bill.
Younger officers sit at roll call and talk about how dangerous their job is. They also profess that their value is in just being there, being available, just in case.
They don't realize that we worked in this city when the west side had double the murders, which, by the way, we called Homicides, and twice the calls, but never came in without a mover, a parker, a curfew, and a bus check. That was the job, so we did it. But then again, they probably don't believe us when we tell them we processed an arrest without a computer, and wrote a case report without a PDT, and wore ties with our long sleeve shirts. We didn't call it the round crown cap, it was just our hat.
I suppose now I'll hear about what a stupid cave man I used to be, or the blah blah blah about in-car cameras.
If the young bucks on the job who complain talked like that back in the day, they would be working a one-man traffic car on all 3 watches, or they would be working the wagon with another beefer.
We have phased out our own careers with all of our "independent thinking".
3 gold bars pretty damn close to my 4th, still WORKING in the ghetto, been sued 5 times, and will keep working. So go back to your paper kid. now do your damn job and shut up. Blaming lawsuits for not working you crybaby trash. You are a disgrace to those that came before us and lost their lives.
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after 3 bars you dont get a 4th duffus, you get a star.
I didn't give a shit about the field thing, but what that did was increase my workload on the days I was inside, because no one picked up the slack.
Now, before you go and call me a crybaby, have you ever had to process movers and parkers in a working district? especially after a weekend? Believe me, it is not a fun job. If you think it is, try it sometime - I'm sure your citation clerk would love the help.
You would not believe the 100 different ways they want the dumb things counted - you'd think there were no computers in the world up to the task. How many rush hours, how many snow tows, how many bus stops. All done on a 'tally' sheet.
And they forced you into this job? If it is so hard, go back to a beat car. If its so busy after the week end, ask to be placed in a DO group.
Also by your own admission when you had to go on the street for one day a week you managed to do your job in 4 days, Now you are back the full 5 days doing a 4 day job.
I bet when you came on the job, you had no idea of how hard the job would be. Didn't they explain how difficult a tally sheet is and how hard it is to have week ends off.
"...3 gold bars pretty damn close to my 4th, still WORKING in the ghetto..."
To pride yourself on your own failure in life is really, really wrong.
I hope that you don't have any kids office, because that's leading by example, and your not doing too well.
If the young bucks on the job who complain talked like that back in the day, they would be working a one-man traffic car on all 3 watches, or they would be working the wagon with another beefer.
We have phased out our own careers with all of our "independent thinking".
3/13/2014 04:51:00 PM
Nobody in the world complains more than an old timer on this job. Not only that but the total disrespect for bosses.
no shit
Why even bother being a patrolman if you may not even get a pention WTF. Where did the billions of dollars in pention funds go, up Daleys ass and all the other crooked Mfs. I feel for all the Chiraq officers dealing with this corrupt city. Nice job with speeding cameras too, great way to rape the people of Shitcago and line your pockets PUTOS
Anonymous said...
"...3 gold bars pretty damn close to my 4th, still WORKING in the ghetto..."
To pride yourself on your own failure in life is really, really wrong.
I hope that you don't have any kids office, because that's leading by example, and your not doing too well.
3/13/2014 10:09:00 PM
Hint: 4 gold bars is equal to one gold star. No one wears 4 gold bars. Maybe there is some other reason you are still in the ghetto.
3/13/2014 10:09:00 PM
A failure? going to work and actually working everyday is a failure? I hope you don't have kids...seeing you are obviously from the gimme gimme for free age. So, I get paid to be the police, and I act like the police I'm a failure. I hope you don't instill your trash work ethic into your children. To the old retired guy....was still thinking of the military aspect I forgot it'll be a star. Thanks, and enjoy you're retirement...hopefully we'll have a few beers at the Cop Shop in Ft. Myers when I make it.
tatiana2121 said...
Why even bother being a patrolman if you may not even get a pention WTF. Where did the billions of dollars in pention funds go, up Daleys ass and all the other crooked Mfs. I feel for all the Chiraq officers dealing with this corrupt city. Nice job with speeding cameras too, great way to rape the people of Shitcago and line your pockets PUTOS
3/14/2014 09:40:00 AM
Twenty-Five years ago the pension was funded at around 77%. Since then the performance of the investment portfolio of our pension fund has been less than stellar, to say the least.
We don't have sharp people like Warren Buffet or Peter Lynch calling the investment shots. We have The Northern Trust Company. No matter how our fund does, The Northern Trust gets their management fees. If my own investments performed like our pension fund I would fire the sons of bitches making the decisions, right damn quick.
We don't have sharp people like Warren Buffet or Peter Lynch calling the investment shots. We have The Northern Trust Company. No matter how our fund does, The Northern Trust gets their management fees. If my own investments performed like our pension fund I would fire the sons of bitches making the decisions, right damn quick.
Very true,but one problem is our pension fund has by laws that won't allow it to invest over a small percentage in stocks and mutuals funds. Most has to be invested in fixed income, CD's and bonds. Guess the original intent was to protect the pension fund from large downturns in the market.
I can guarantee you that there are more nitwits on the north side with Porsches than on the south side.
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