Gone Fishing...For $$$...Again
- The Chicago Police Department can no longer keep misconduct records secret, a state appeals court has ruled.
The Illinois Freedom of Information Act doesn’t exempt “CR files,” which consist of misconduct complaints against officers and documents created during the investigations, the court found Monday.
The appeals court also found that “RL” files are open to the public. Those files identify police officers who have accumulated the most misconduct complaints. At issue were two RL files that named officers with the most complaints between 2001-2006 and 2002-2008.
You can't use a citizen's past misdeeds against them in any phase of court proceedings except as an aggravating factor in sentencing. But these people want to use every Unfounded and Not Sustained finding against you in all cases.
UPDATE: Post corrected - you can use past misdeeds to upgrade charges, but after that, the defendant must be presented as pure as the driven snow
UPDATE: Post corrected - you can use past misdeeds to upgrade charges, but after that, the defendant must be presented as pure as the driven snow
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
32 Comments:
Well maybe them RETIREES that were elected to the FOP can get off their asses shave their eyebrows and enforce the FOP contract, those beefs shouldn't even be in the personnel files of officers if they are from that far back and have been not sustained.......
Libs are sympathetic towards criminals, but never the police. It's the 38th fact of life.
Best thing to do every tour is SIT ON YOUR HANDS. Give them what they want.
Well then once not sustained or unfounded the file is destroyed in 30 days. Why maintain a b.s. allegation proven to be b.s. for 7yrs?
Two words "PUNATIVE DAMAGES", Your kids college fund GONE, your motorcycle fund GONE, your home add a second mortgage, summer cabin GONE, all that special employment, just sign the checks over to the lawyer. Now remember boys and girls everybody has a smart phone which records both video and audio and the courts have said IT'S NOT AGANIST THE LAW TO RECORD THE POLICE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR DUTIES!
Thanks to the Daley crime family for changing the law back in the early 2000's. Just google Chicago Police PUNATIVE damages and you'll see how quite a few good officers got jammed up and ended paying out of their pocket. So just remember these days it's not only actions but now WHAT YOU SAY also can get you in trouble and no matter how good or how much the bosses have your back a video tells the truth in court and your the liar! I have been their done that and seen it happen already, just a few words from a retired copper, this is what I shared with my son who's on the job now and I keep telling him find a different job or go federal when he comes home and tells us "It seems like we're second class citizens and everybody hates us", but than again their might be one person who actually likes the police!
So now with this ruling by the judge when you get sued and they will try to sue for everything you do and say will be racist and brutal and your past actions on any complaint and comments can be brought to record, the damages will be compounded and you'll pay.
Someone should FOIA a few reporters' disciplinary files, number of retractions, apologies, etc. Hell, Marin and Gowdie have both recently made asses of themselves with no backlash or outrage.
"You can't use a citizen's past misdeeds against them in any phase of court proceedings except as an aggravating factor in sentencing.
UPDATE: Post corrected - you can use past misdeeds to upgrade charges, but after that, the defendant must be presented as pure as the driven snow "
still untrue. you can use 'prior bad acts' against the defendant to show motive, bias, lack of mistake, modus operandi, and in sex and domestic cases, the state can use them purely to show propensity. i know that there's a kabillion complaints agains officers because you guys deal with a vindictive and nasty population often, and they use that to make a quick buck, but your less than complete assertion of the state of the law is a bit less than i expect form SCC. if anyone knows the criminal law, it should be you and your fellows. you're pretty much always on the ball, surprised you did not get this right. oh, and don't forget people v. lynch. 725 ILCS 5, Section 115-7.3 and 7.4, oh, and there doesn't even have to be an RD generated for the prior acts to be admissible.
Spell punitive correctly please.
Two words "PUNATIVE DAMAGES", Your kids college fund GONE, your motorcycle fund GONE, your home add a second mortgage, summer cabin GONE, all that special employment, just sign the checks over to the lawyer. Now remember boys and girls everybody has a smart phone which records both video and audio and the courts have said IT'S NOT AGANIST THE LAW TO RECORD THE POLICE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR DUTIES!
Thanks to the Daley crime family for changing the law back in the early 2000's. Just google Chicago Police PUNATIVE damages......
3/12/2014 04:21:00 AM
Its spelled PUNITIVE
What the hell is an RL file?? didnt see that studying for the sgt test....
Anonymous said...
Well maybe them RETIREES that were elected to the FOP can get off their asses shave their eyebrows and enforce the FOP contract, those beefs shouldn't even be in the personnel files of officers if they are from that far back and have been not sustained.......
Dont know why you are mad at the retirees because the active duty electees couldn't or wouldn't enforce the contract.
Since the state wants to put police officers misconducts out in the open. How about we finally go after the p.o.s. That alleged misconduct and the investigation reveals the p.o.s. Is Falsely accusing officers.
As a member of the public, I'm not looking at the 20 year cop with a few allegations over a solid career. I'm looking at officers in the top 1% of complaints and wondering why they're still employed.
Why is Dougherty going to bring back Aguilar? We just voted him out. Da chicago way.
Look what the jury gave the J.O. That slaughtered 7 people in Palatine as a reward for getting a punch from a Sheriff Deputy. Almost a half million dollars! No one remembered this goofs name from the crime? Or is it just the the people don't like the police.
One good thing...Now the cops have a better chance of collecting damages vs a bogus complainant...He can show how his reputation was damaged in the court of public opinion
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Best thing to do every tour is SIT ON YOUR HANDS. Give them what they want.
3/12/2014 01:42:00 AM
I found it more rewarding to sit on someone else's hands.
Rule #1 Working Cops get C.R.s FACT !
Will someone tell the third watch to stop putting my reclining front seat in an upright position and I can't believe you took my Hostess snowballs out of the glove box. This job is going down the tubes quick. I'm generating an RD and having an Evidence Tech dust the car.
I wonder if this will include my "non-sustained" brutality beef, stemming from an arrest that I was somehow involved in, that occurred while I was in Wisconsin, on furlough, and had the credit card statements to prove it.
Best thing to do every tour is SIT ON YOUR HANDS. Give them what they want.
Complimentary history should be disclosed as well then
I plan on being an aggressive officer who takes no prisoners no matter what. No one and nothing will scare me from doing my job.
Someone should FOIA a few reporters' disciplinary files, number of retractions, apologies, etc. Hell, Marin and Gowdie have both recently made asses of themselves with no backlash or outrage.
3/12/2014 07:28:00 AM
They are not paid by tax funds - stupid
Gee what connected types are going to be stirring up business for their attorney friends????
Its not the Cities money...its the tax payers!!
Anonymous said...
Rule #1 Working Cops get C.R.s FACT !
3/12/2014 11:19:00 AM
True and working cops get cr numbers from co worker cops who are fop unit reps the karma goes on.
Could/should the F.O.P. FOIA the reporters disciplinary files, retractions, etc? Seems like a good idea, and please, let's work together, not bash each other(calling a poster "Stupid" saying "SCC Should know better, "Etc.) that helps no one, and we need ideas.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
As a member of the public, I'm not looking at the 20 year cop with a few allegations over a solid career. I'm looking at officers in the top 1% of complaints and wondering why they're still employed.
3/12/2014 09:32:00 AM
By that logic, just fire us all right now, then.
Once you fire those "top 1%", the top 2% will rise to number one, and once you fire THEM, the top 3% will rise, and so on.
Instead, as a discerning member of the public, how about you insist ALL allegations be fairly investigated and all discipline be meted out without regard to clout or cash considerations?
As a member of the public, I'm not looking at the 20 year cop with a few allegations over a solid career. I'm looking at officers in the top 1% of complaints and wondering why they're still employed.
3/12/2014 09:32:00 AM
As a cop I think that's fair enough.
Just FYI, if they use your CR history in civil suits then the plaintiffs (AKA shithead) background, arrests and convictions can also be used. If the plaintiff wants his clients background to be omitted or visa versa then the others cant be used. I wouldn't worry about it too much, no civil attorney worth his salt will risk having the shitheads background out there just to get a CR history admitted.. wont happen too often.
You know i thought we had this in are contract that those files would be erased after a certain time limit?
So if are contract can be changed by the legislator i can ASSUME that they can change the fact that we have no rights in living outside the city.
It seem mighty convenient we should then be able to see any judges complaints online.
Or how about any lawsuit a politicians been involved in.
Or may be would could see all the cases Madigans & Burkes double dipped on while working for the people of this state
Hell Blagos wire taps are sealed and he is convicted already! I wonder why?
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