Sounds Legit to Us
- Police departments across the country are pulling patrol officers off the road. Police will still be on duty but will only respond to 911 calls. No pro-active policing will take place.
Police chiefs say that anti police feelings from the public are pushing this move to re-active only policing. Chiefs also cite the famous Kansas City Patrol experiment as justification for this move.
The Kansas City experiment showed that police on patrol does nothing to lower or prevent crimes. In the experiment parts of Kansas City had few patrol cars on the street and other parts had extra patrol cars. During the experiment crime rates did not change.
One police chief told us. “If the people of this community don’t want to see cops why am I wasting money on gas for them to patrol We can adopt the fire department model. All the cops will hang out in La-z-boy chairs watching cable until we are called for.”
This would save gas, wear-and-tear on vehicles, and wear-and-tear on coppers. Probably cut down on lawsuits, too and Rahm could lay off city lawyers.
(yes, we know it's a satirical piece)
(yes, we know it's a satirical piece)
Labels: sarcasm AND silliness
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
127 Comments:
You may realize it is satire, but I bet the over/under on commenters believing this story will be about 20.
Lets do it!
YEA HAW ! About time.
Makes sense...what the fuck... present climate think all crimes should go to the pd's...got a homicide? Just swing by and we'll do a station report....
Hey, that's great! Like I've been saying all along, hands off the rats. Let the hipsters and left wing dumb asses police their neighborhoods. We will give the victims a report number. That should be good enough.
Sarcasm aside it sounds good to me. Fuck the liberals let's give them what they want.
Take a number! Ok who's next? We can "share" cars now. We won't be hearing " hold us down in the station. No cars" anymore. Sounds like a great idea. Imagine all the money the mayor would be saving for our pensions.
It's satire, but sadly, it's true.
The only people doing active police work are the ones that need numbers for VRI and the ones that use court as a second job.
Obama has won the battle. Patriots will win the war.
Great! I can do that! Can I come out of retirement and go back on the job? All that would happen is I go from one La-z-boy to another.
I can't imagine why anyone would do pro-active police these days, everyone from the president down is looking to make an example out of some poor police officer. Answer your calls and rake care of each other, nothing more.
Hmm, Sounds interesting. If the police adopt the fireman rule, then the police can utilize the extra time and work out and conducting proper education training through videos.
Sounds like a plan that might take some of the heat off.
less driving means less greenhouse gas emissions as well! this is a win/win situation for the hippies.
Dont forget about stop and kiss programs going on in mew york also. Goggle it!
Satirical? This has been my philosophy since the start of this mess...
This message is being sent from my tablet to SCC by a NYPD midnight officer who is currently "in the coop" with my partner and another sector car.
For those CPD members that are unaware of the NYPD slang "cooping", I believe CPD officers call it "hitting the hole".
Until dawn, we will not move from this desolate location unless we receive a radio assignment. We now "coop" in pairs of RMPs because 8 eyes are better than 4 eyes for caution's sake.
Stay safe!
Time: 5:20 AM (EST)
I'm all for it!
And the problem with this is ?????
I'm ahead of the curve! I have been this for years! I also still get paid on 1st and 16 th!
This may be tongue in cheek but its not out the realm of possibility. Keep pushing the police and this will become a reality. And all you skinny jean wearing pussy liberals will be left to defend yourselves, who am I kidding. They will be begging for men and women like us to come and save them. And we just might not be there to save their asses.
I always like the classic old crime films where you see a parade of squad cars and motorcycles, and with lights and sirens blaring leaving the police station garage responding to some sort of crime, like they were leaving a firehouse on a run. I remember the old SWAT TV series where the coppers just sat around the station waiting for a call so that they could drive their truck full of toys out the garage door when they got the big call. LOL!
I am still the working police. I work and work hard. I bring in the numbers and my bosses are happy. On a side note they take care of me. They give me time due whenever I ask for it. Plus soon I will be on a special team. Life is good- at least for some of us who bring in significant activity.
Maybe it is satire, but it just may come to that.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
In Germany the police dont patrol either. They just wait for 112 calls.
OT --
NYPD commissioner warns officers not to make political statements at wake
Published January 03, 2015
"...at Ramos' funeral, hundreds of officers turned their backs to TV monitors displaying Mayor Bill de Blasio's remarks to show their frustration for what police union officials have said is the mayor's role in creating an environment that allowed the killings.
"In a message to be read to officers on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, NYPD Commissioner William Bratton said that act "stole the valor, honor, and attention that rightfully belonged to the memory of Detective Rafael Ramos's life and sacrifice."
"I issue no mandates, and I make no threats of discipline, but I remind you that when you don the uniform of this department, you are bound by the tradition, honor and decency that go with it," Bratton said."
One standard for the Mayor, another standard for everybody else.
The officers merely turned their backs on the Mayor -- they all stood and saluted when their brother was carried from the church.
So it goes this way again. Gig the whole NYPD and all the officers from other agencies? Ha.
Not a political statement. Everyone just got distracted by a funny-looking bird over there...ya see 'im peckin' on the Nathan's wrapper?
They like the onions...
Chicago?
FLOP?
DeaNO?
SILENT
How about just replacing the police with civilian mediators?
Funeral for NYPD Officer Wenjian Liu in Brooklyn this morning. You'll find this post from THEE RANT "interesting" to say the least:
CLICK HERE
Good deal -- retired coppers help nab applepickers victimizing the elderly.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-good-samaritans-with-badges-help-nab-iphone-robbery-suspects-near-ohare-20150102-story.html
I do that now in 012 on 1st watch :0) !!
This proposal has great merit.
I read " The St. Louis Experiment" years ago when I was teaching at a university. It surprised me. But, that was before ' Broken Windows" model came along. The crime rates did not change by much during the experiment, but you must understand that St. Louis city and St. Louis County are shit holes to start with. The liberal left wing sector wants the end of broken windows model and the end of stop and frisk. I would say give it to them, in a small way, but taking a west side district, 010, 011, or maybe even 006 or 007 on the south side and test the theory there. I would be willing to bet that within 6 months the " black community" would be screaming for the old system, maybe with a few modifications. I support the police and would not want to be them at this point in history.
Speaking of satire.
Any cracks in the Emanuel "mugging" case?
this is classic!....bring it on
The only people doing active police work are the ones that need numbers for VRI and the ones that use court as a second job.
Obama has won the battle. Patriots will win the war.
1/03/2015 01:38:00 AM
I agree with the above posted point of officers using court as a second job, but I would hardly consider people that work VRI as doing active police work. I see similar posts quite often, and qualifying for VRI is a really low goal to be met.
To qualify for VRI, you need to write five parkers, movers or contact cards. If you work 20 days in a month, that's one of each every fourth workday and you qualify. Seventy five percent of the days you work you could do nothing, and still qualify. It doesn't bother me as to whether someone humps or not, but I wouldn't call someone qualifying for VRI a worker solely based on the fact they qualified.
I actually like the idea, nice way of saying "fuck you" to the public. "Don't like us? ok, call when you do." Only downside, we might miss a couple of laughs from on view incidents...
LOL, pretty cool website. Here's another article that *could* become the norm in policing ......
New police response system to send only same culture officer to calls
'Traditionally the police response to 9-1-1 calls has been to send the closest available unit to handle whatever emergency has presented itself. But this is about to change with a pilot program being developed by the South Diego Police Department.
Using a complex matrix program officers will be dispatched to calls based upon the race, sexual orientation, sex and marital status of the callers. Through the matrix dispatchers will be able to send officers of the same sex, race etc of the caller. This will mean that officers are more able to identify with the particular issues that face the caller, eliminating potential cases of racial misconduct or misunderstanding on the part of the officer.' ~~snip~~ (cont'd at link)
Naturally there's some people commenting on those articles that actually think they're true. (Please God, help us asap, or we're doomed!)
I am offended by the article prompting these comments: The fire department model is not limited to lounging around on Lazy-Boys. Firemen get up not only to answer the occasional alarm but also to eat, shit, shower, sleep, eat, adjust the cable/ satellite signal and watch TV, wash the chief's car, then pull their personal vehicles and motorcycles in the back fire station door to work on them and clean and vacuum and otherwise detail them, eat, manage the football and other sports pools, work their second jobs from their cell phones, eat, surf the internet and make hotel reservations for their Daley/Kelly Days and furloughs, exercise and work out, discuss and solve the problems of the world, search for lost TV remotes, etc. Then they eat again until tired, at which time they retire to the bunk-room for a well deserved nap and sleep a bit until they get hungry again, whereupon the cycle repeats...
Lounging around on Lazy Boys all day?...Hmmm.
The nerve of some people....
Oh you mean someone else has the same idea that I have/feel? What a shock. Yeah, the firetrucks don't drive around looking for fires. They wait until they're called out. The paramedics don't drive around looking for patients. I think CPD should do same.
Found another on that website, this one IS pertinent. ............
Illinois police will use medical cannabis on duty
'Last year in Illinois a medical cannabis pilot program was created by legislation and signed into law by Gov. Pat Quinn. Now the Illinois police officer standards board is issues a policy to police chiefs, “officers shall use cannabis on duty”.
The move to force officers to be on marijuana while working is an experiment in reducing police use of force. Medical researchers have found that police officers are alway under stress while on duty. One effect of THC, the intoxicating ingredient in marijuana, is to mellow people out.'
I just posted this article on Facebook. Gotta see how many of my friends & relatives bite :-)
Stopped being pro-active years ago.............
I know this is satire, but don't you think we are playing right into their plan? Look at the comments on this board for the last 5 years. A few of us plan to the 20 or 29 year mark Many of us think only to the 1st and the 15th of each month. And there's some that don't even think to the end of their shift. Do you seriously think we cant be replaced? We stopped writing parkers and they put it on the Dept of Revenue. We stopped directing traffic and they formed TMA. We stopped doing traffic and they brought in cameras and issue tickets through the mail. The CAN'T replace us? Ask the 11,000 air traffic controllers who said the SAME exact thing in August, 1981. It takes 3 years to train an air traffic controller and it took 10 years to get back to normal staffing, but guess what? They did it with 48 hours notice. We are being led down a path of inaction by a govt who will use that same inaction as a cause for replacing us. They have been training our replacements since DHS stood up and could walk in 6,000 federal police in 48 hours. Think I'm crazy? What do you think a bankrupt city and state would love more than having the police pension liability shifted to the federal government? I sure wish I was closer to my 29.
Sort of like an alderman, right?
Yup, riding around in fire trucks would do nothing to stop fires.
Anti police group offers list of demands
http://www.infowars.com/anti-police-protesters-release-list-of-demands/
Can anyone shed light on a police response on Cermak east of Cicero Avenue at 8 o’clock last night? Dozens of Cicero police cars, Chicago and other suburbs. Looked like a hundred or so kids throwing rocks and bottles at passing cars near the mall. Was this a wilding or some look at me I’m breaking the law anti social demonstration? Broken out car windows, packs of teenagers darting in an out of traffic and flashing lights everywhere. What a mess. I think this is Cicero and it must have been serious to have Chicago heavy hitters give those other departments a hand.
Hill Street Blues had that policy years back right out of the old Maxwell St.station garage.
"And HEY, let's be careful out there."
This may be tongue in cheek but its not out the realm of possibility. Keep pushing the police and this will become a reality. And all you skinny jean wearing pussy liberals will be left to defend yourselves, who am I kidding. They will be begging for men and women like us to come and save them. And we just might not be there to save their asses.
1/03/2015 06:36:00 AM
Get over yourself Rambo. When is the last time you saved anybody's ass?
Ive been in this mode for at least 5 years. I used to love to hit the street and hunt for bad people. Now??? Parkers and waiving.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/02/nypd-officer-not-worth-it-to-make-arrests-if-i-have-a-chance-of-getting-my-head-blown-off/
With reports that the NYPD is looking into as many as 63 threats against police officers, or the mayor this week alone, news also comes of a lack of motivation among the rank and file, undoubtedly contributing to a significant drop in arrest numbers across the city.
“[There’s] just not motivation,” one police officer told [Vice]. “I’m not writing people summonses if I have a chance of getting my head blown off.” When asked if this was his own choice or a precinct-wide initiative, the officer added, “Seems like the entire department is on the same page.”
I also heard we have new PDT's but we won't see them anytime soon. As usual, the city hasn't paid the bill so the company won't release the new PDT's.
TYPICAL
That was my Policing model for an entire career except that my lay-z-boy recliner was provided for me in my squad car by the 350 Lb. copper who used it before me.
What was new is now old and what was old is now new.
Only patrol areas who want the police there.
Anonymous said...
I am still the working police. I work and work hard. I bring in the numbers and my bosses are happy. On a side note they take care of me. They give me time due whenever I ask for it. Plus soon I will be on a special team. Life is good- at least for some of us who bring in significant activity.
1/03/2015 07:03:00 AM
Dude.... You are Awesome !!!
No way..... This would end VRI
I fuckin' love this!
The tac teams have just been redeployed.
When I worked 2nd watch in Englewood, I "cooped" until called. It seemed like everytime I rolled the streets I would rolled into some kind of problem or hand waiver.
Anonymous said...
I am still the working police. I work and work hard. I bring in the numbers and my bosses are happy. On a side note they take care of me. They give me time due whenever I ask for it. Plus soon I will be on a special team. Life is good- at least for some of us who bring in significant activity.
A "special team" did your rate of pay change with this special team? You get to use your time? You mean the time you earned? The same time I use and don't get denied! This is being "taken care of" I bet you boss wished everyone was this dumb! Fuck a special team, just get on the short bus & lick the windows! You must be the dumbest bastard on the job!
got a WI-FI signal drop anchor-wait for the next call for police service! and patrol yeah right only the outer perimeter main streets only! Stay of the side streets and alleys!! in the COOP! in the COOP! in the COOP!
Anonymous said...
I am still the working police. I work and work hard. I bring in the numbers and my bosses are happy. On a side note they take care of me. They give me time due whenever I ask for it. Plus soon I will be on a special team. Life is good- at least for some of us who bring in significant activity.
1/03/2015 07:03:00 AM
Stroke. Wait until some shit goes sour and all those bosses that are "good to you" turn their backs on you and throw you under the bus. You're never going to make it to retirement in this anti-police climate. Not that it will affect me because you sound like you have 3 years on the job anyway.
Wait till you fuck up one day and your great bosses throw you under the bus. Idiot
Never get out of the car unless your willing to go all the way .......
07:03am, The Wild Wild West days are over. Be careful.
Let's do it ............. I am in
Hey, havn't the been trying this experiment in 001 for the last couple of years
Retired Sgt...R.Rewers
Actually that is the question you should ask all the "community leaders" "What kind of police force do you want... Proactive or Reactive" This animosity against the police has been on going for more than 50 years...look it up. not the department I joined in 1968.
Good luck guys,,, stay save and don't take any unnecessary risks... sorry to say, It's not worth it...
OT: At least the family will be safe.
CTA worker’s residency firing nixed
The Chicago Transit Authority can’t fire an employee for violating its residency rules on the basis that his family was living separately from him in a northwest suburb, a state appeals panel has ruled.
http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/Elements/pages/print.aspx?printpath=/Articles/2014/12/31/CTA-Worker-Residency-12-31-14&classname=tera.gn3article
Article gives fire departments too much credit
This is a great article. The Mayor and mcfatty should look at this. We should follow this model. Think of all the money it would save on gas and vehicles. Millions a year!! I defenatly feel each district in the city should vote on wether they want to see the police. If the community doesn't want patrolling then why waste the money?
Wow..whata concept for American policing. Sometimes I dont see the Rural Guard for a week
but then these folks down south here are very civilized...
It probably didn't help the general population to have shipped the great number of manufacturing jobs to foreign countries.
What's the result? Unemployment, under-employment, and more people involved with criminal activities.
Is this the most over-policed country in the world? It seems that either (1) this country is going to have to hire more cops or (2) there is over-policing which has to be cut back.
What's the solution? How about if we call Obama a liberal and blame all the liberals for shipping jobs to Red China and other foreign countries? That's much quicker and more efficient that spending time trying to convince politicians to take away the tax advantages of shipping jobs to foreign countries.
OT --
Hell of a good story here.
On patrol with Skid Row's 'angel cop'
11:55 AM ET, Sat January 3, 2015
"Los Angeles (CNN)Somebody else might walk by without looking at the painfully thin crackhead curled on the sidewalk in the fetal position. Or nudge her with a foot.
"Not Deon Joseph.
"This muscular black man with arms thick as hams leans over and gently shakes the woman's bony shoulder. He wants to make contact, ensure that she is still breathing.
"How you doing today?"
She curses him, still very much alive.
"Have a good day, ma'am," he replies, moving on down the line of dazed people and overstuffed shopping carts outside the Union Rescue Mission.
"It's just another day in the life of a man shopkeepers and residents of the nation's last true Skid Row call the "Sheriff of Skidberry."
"Joseph is senior lead officer for the Los Angeles Police Department, and Skid Row has been his beat for the past 17 years..."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/02/us/skid-row-cop/index.html
Shoot low,they're riding Shetlands
Please relay the Kansas City experiment to all the whiners in Mt. Greenwood who call for more police to patrol when something bad is reported. It won't stop or prevent the crime that happens once in awhile. Unfortunately crime is everywhere and is nothing new to the area. More often than not 22nd district police officers have a quick response time for calls in the area; please don't waste your time with a silly reply. Lookout for your neighbors. Be safe.
ala the opening scene of "Hill Street Blues".
Sounds like 012 on a good day.
In the old days, we called this stationary patrol.
Tell that to a PPO that breaks the sound barrier going to a simple noise disturbance only to find a craftsman holding a saw. Otw there PPO damn near hits 3 of his own cars, tells ya how lazy the other coppers w/15 or more on are, and how crime will change cuz of his/her zeal.
Some of these kids, SCC, R willing to work w/OUT a pension. I'm not fucking around. I asked one of them once what wood they do if there wasn't a pension. They're reply was "I guess we don't get one." The name if this game for most is a pension. I haven't met many Priests on this gig that R satisfied w/a calling alone.
When is that pendulum swinging back our way?
Sounds like the old Barney Miller series was a premonition. Don't go out til you're called, and then, "here's your RD number, sir/ma'am/hipster/liberal...now if you want him arrested, you need to go and swear out a warrant, and he'll be served, and you'll get your court date...Arrest him??? no, sorry, we don't do that anymore because if we have to lay hands on, you'll be the first one crying about the way we treated your offender..." Let's do it. It's a win win for all of us.
That's right out of a Vonnegut Novel! Breakfast of Champions, mayB?
703am better be a satire too
Hi SCC n Kids. 10 g here. Sorry we haven't chatted but family stuff happened. I missed you Gals n Guys. Hope everyone had a Great Christmas and New Year to be had. See the fools still hate us. God Bless Fr. B and Rabbi Wolf and fuck phlager. too bad this new archbishop embraced that FOOl right away. I digress. Have 14 peeps on our Feb Cruise. And yes Bear suck. LOL. Lets make a few in playoffs. I placed 10 Large on Carolina-6 and a hook same way on the UNDER 37 and a hook in game. Same way on Balt +3 over Pitt and OVER 45 in game. Let's win big today SCC n Kids. PLAYOFF TIME!
(OT) Bank robbed 1/2 block from 008th district no respect for fear of police for sure!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-marquette-park-neighborhood-bank-robbed-20150103-story.html
Sounds fine by me.
It took effect a few years back.
You know they call it non-emergency number 3-1-1.
Burglary no big deal
car stolen 35k worth easy one.
Someone shoot at your house nobody on scene easy criminal damage report by phone???
Credit card number used don't worry you ain't the victim the bank is?
Its happening with the consent of RAHM but when officers talk about slow down etc it is viewed as a major Conspiracy.
WBBM radio advertising McCarthy's ongoing wedding-present needs. Bloomingdale's registry says they're fine on $90.00/ea. butter plates, but still need silver napkin rings.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
703am better be a satire too
1/03/2015 12:47:00 PM
0703 sounds exactly like Missy, the Parking Meter Guru, I wouldn't worry about it.
There was a radio show, called "Gangbusters" that migrated to TV in the early days. Nothing could have made my young butt happier than to see all those black sedans rushing out of the barn for a crime that had occurred.
Think about it, a contest for Watch Chef of the month. Sports betting in house, and based on FD experience, NO HOOKERS ever.
Watch out for crabs in the mattresses.
Look at any of the old stations that may be still standing.I remember the old 010 on Damen.
Above one overhead door "Ambulance",above the other "Patrol".
Perfect.
"Can anyone shed light on a police response on Cermak east of Cicero Avenue at 8 o’clock last night?"
1/03/2015 09:44:00 AM
Made the traffic reports as "BNSF has had to stop all trains in both directions due to 'police activity.'"
Please relay the Kansas City experiment to all the whiners in Mt. Greenwood who call for more police to patrol when something bad is reported. It won't stop or prevent the crime that happens once in awhile. Unfortunately crime is everywhere and is nothing new to the area. More often than not 22nd district police officers have a quick response time for calls in the area; please don't waste your time with a silly reply. Lookout for your neighbors. Be safe.
1/03/2015 12:13:00 PM
If you ever took the time to actually study the KC experiment you would have found that it was flawed. The no police patrol areas were too close to extra police patrol areas. The Police still had to respond to calls calls in the no patrol area, often having to stay and do reports which had them still highly visible. They also had to cross over the no patrol areas to respond to calls in patrol areas.
If you want a true experiment you would not respond to any calls or patrol a certain area. This could never happen in real life so you would never get a true experiment.
FUNNY STUFF,but let's not throw the firemen under the bus,let just incorporate the "Me too Clause," it helped them,it'll help us!
WBBM radio advertising McCarthy's ongoing wedding-present needs. Bloomingdale's registry says they're fine on $90.00/ea. butter plates, but still need silver napkin rings.
Saw that in Sunday Suntimes. Hilarious. How much for the crystal Kool-Aid Serving glasses ?
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Get over yourself Rambo. When is the last time you saved anybody's ass?
1/03/2015 10:02:00 AM<<<
Over a 36 years career....
http://abc7chicago.com/news/metra-bnsf-trains-stopped-near-cicero-due-to-police-activity/459639/
Some don't want us to respond at all. Check out this article titled "New Year Resolution, Don't Call the Police"
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/28215-a-new-years-resolution-don-t-call-the-police
OT, but thought i should share.
A friend of a family member bought a basket of groceries for a CPD officer this morning as a way to thank him for "serving and protecting" her neighborhood. She lives up by DePaul and can best be described as a "bleeding heart Republican." The officer tried to refuse, but she insisted.
She said she did it because recent events woke her up to the fact that police don't get the respect they deserve.
She's good people.
Anonymous said...
I do that now in 012 on 1st watch :0) !!
1/03/2015 08:05:00 AM
And you're proud of that?
Maybe you're one of the do-nothings my sister asked for help one night and all she got was an eye roll and a BS answer.
She then asked if you were old 013 or old 012 and you said old 012.
Her response:
""I thought I recognized you two. Your photos are next to the definition of Dogass in the urban dictionary."
Just like the MAYTAG MAN. Never have to see us, unless its broken !!
I totally agree...
I know this is satire, but don't you think we are playing right into their plan? Look at the comments on this board for the last 5 years. A few of us plan to the 20 or 29 year mark Many of us think only to the 1st and the 15th of each month. And there's some that don't even think to the end of their shift. Do you seriously think we cant be replaced? We stopped writing parkers and they put it on the Dept of Revenue. We stopped directing traffic and they formed TMA. We stopped doing traffic and they brought in cameras and issue tickets through the mail. The CAN'T replace us? Ask the 11,000 air traffic controllers who said the SAME exact thing in August, 1981. It takes 3 years to train an air traffic controller and it took 10 years to get back to normal staffing, but guess what? They did it with 48 hours notice. We are being led down a path of inaction by a govt who will use that same inaction as a cause for replacing us. They have been training our replacements since DHS stood up and could walk in 6,000 federal police in 48 hours. Think I'm crazy? What do you think a bankrupt city and state would love more than having the police pension liability shifted to the federal government? I sure wish I was closer to my 29.
Anonymous said...
I do that now in 012 on 1st watch :0) !!
1/03/2015 08:05:00 AM
And you're proud of that?
Maybe you're one of the do-nothings my sister asked for help one night and all she got was an eye roll and a BS answer.
She then asked if you were old 013 or old 012 and you said old 012.
Her response:
""I thought I recognized you two. Your photos are next to the definition of Dogass in the urban dictionary."
1/03/2015 06:41:00 PM
Is your sister married? I like her type of sarcastic humor. Well played.
Dean Sr. would probably like the idea if the city proposed it. He like the city proposed contract, time due delay implementation, body camera's, and 5th district debacle.
The department chair for Sr and Jr at a city college in 10-15 years will be an eye opening event for a lot of kool aid drinkers.
WBBM radio advertising McCarthy's ongoing wedding-present needs. Bloomingdale's registry says they're fine on $90.00/ea. butter plates, but still need silver napkin rings.
Saw that in Sunday Suntimes. Hilarious. How much for the crystal Kool-Aid Serving glasses ?
1/03/2015 05:54:00 PM
Excellent.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I know this is satire, but don't you think we are playing right into their plan? Look at the comments on this board for the last 5 years. A few of us plan to the 20 or 29 year mark Many of us think only to the 1st and the 15th of each month. And there's some that don't even think to the end of their shift. Do you seriously think we cant be replaced? We stopped writing parkers and they put it on the Dept of Revenue. We stopped directing traffic and they formed TMA. We stopped doing traffic and they brought in cameras and issue tickets through the mail. The CAN'T replace us? Ask the 11,000 air traffic controllers who said the SAME exact thing in August, 1981. It takes 3 years to train an air traffic controller and it took 10 years to get back to normal staffing, but guess what? They did it with 48 hours notice. We are being led down a path of inaction by a govt who will use that same inaction as a cause for replacing us. They have been training our replacements since DHS stood up and could walk in 6,000 federal police in 48 hours. Think I'm crazy? What do you think a bankrupt city and state would love more than having the police pension liability shifted to the federal government? I sure wish I was closer to my 29.
1/03/2015 09:25:00 AM
I agree with you. The less coppers do on the job, the less leverage they have. Nowadays, cops in the districts have very little leverage. A lot of cops come in with one parker or just straight zeroes and leave check off laughing and joking about how little they do.
a while ago, cops would slow down to send the commander a message that something was wrong. If they had a decent commander, he would figure out that something was wrong and would fix it.
Now the only avenue left to show discontent is the medical. and I would bet that if coppers fuck with that, even the medical will change and nothing will be left to show discontent.
As it is often said, coppers are often their own worst enemy.
I understand that now it is a special circumstance because there's is whole movement converging against us and we need to hunker down. However, the tide will change and we should recognize that we must also change our tactics to remain relevant and have the heft needed to influence our own destiny.
Back in the mid-70's I was a snot nosed college kid, not even thinking about being the Police. I wrote a paper that stated that Police stations, and EMS should be de-centralized ie. no more Police or FD HQ's "Down Town".That there should be "stations" through out the city, and Police and EMS would respond from these neighborhood "stations".
I flunked the class.
Be Safe Boys and Girls.
I love it.
ISP Sgt
Anonymous said...
I totally agree...
I know this is satire, but don't you think we are playing right into their plan? Look at the comments on this board for the last 5 years. A few of us plan to the 20 or 29 year mark Many of us think only to the 1st and the 15th of each month......
I sure wish I was closer to my 29.
1/03/2015 08:03:00 PM
Me too. You don't even know that it's the 1st and 16th of the month when you get paid.
I am still the working police. I work and work hard. I bring in the numbers and my bosses are happy. On a side note they take care of me. They give me time due whenever I ask for it. Plus soon I will be on a special team. Life is good- at least for some of us who bring in significant activity.
1/03/2015 07:03:00 AM
Pffft.... You think "being taken care" is being time due when asked???? Baby boy....holy fuck.
That nots being take care of, its using time due.
Save your work, for someone who deserves it. First thing you need to figure out is what being taken care of means. It doesn't mean getting on an early car, working on an 06 team, or taking time due.
Ive noticed a lot of young bucks think bosses are impressed by 5 man CTTP, gang loitering, and traffic pinches. They're not. Save your time for making an arrest that will make you money. Having 50 people on your key date isn't doing shit but keeping you at court about 1 3/4 hours longer than necessary.
I was just saying the same thing !! Settle down Francis's everybody's replaceable if we could ask Pres. Reagan. Criminals are one thing, but don't want everyone including jerry's kids joining this band wagon
Anonymous said...
Please relay the Kansas City experiment to all the whiners in Mt. Greenwood who call for more police to patrol when something bad is reported. It won't stop or prevent the crime that happens once in awhile. Unfortunately crime is everywhere and is nothing new to the area. More often than not 22nd district police officers have a quick response time for calls in the area; please don't waste your time with a silly reply. Lookout for your neighbors. Be safe.
1/03/2015 12:13:00 PM
If you ever took the time to actually study the KC experiment you would have found that it was flawed. The no police patrol areas were too close to extra police patrol areas. The Police still had to respond to calls calls in the no patrol area, often having to stay and do reports which had them still highly visible. They also had to cross over the no patrol areas to respond to calls in patrol areas.
If you want a true experiment you would not respond to any calls or patrol a certain area. This could never happen in real life so you would never get a true experiment.
1/03/2015 05:05:00 PM
Yes; it was flawed but law enforcement executives all over the country still point to this study as a reason that random patrol is useless and does not give citizens any increased perception of safety. Departments that went into community policing mode in the early 90's (like Chicago) used the KC experiment as their poster child to get away from simply allowing beat cars to roam around their beats. It all became "directed" patrol to concentrate on problems identified at police-community meetings. Unfortunately, those weren't the ONLY problems out there and pretty soon, the whole philosophy of beat cars having the time to solve problems on their own beats ... failed.
When I worked 2nd watch in Englewood, I "cooped" until called. It seemed like everytime I rolled the streets I would rolled into some kind of problem or hand waiver.
1/03/2015 10:31:00 AM
I am really getting tired of this "I don't do anything for my pay and I am proud" shit. You are a small minority on this job and you have always been a dog.
As far as out NYPD brothers, I am sure that when the police are needed, they are there. They aren't doing the minor summons and violations to make their point. WE should be so unified.
Free word association? A commenter asked a question, "Can Rham..." and I thought of cam Rahn bay? Probably a squeak is more like it. And darn, I can't remember seeing him there. Of course, I missed the touring ballet act with Bob Hope.
If everyone is replaceable then that means all the real police can be replaced too?
Certain types of careers are difficult to privatize
doctors
nurses
police
you reply they can just hire security guards?
It was done in New Orleans many moons ago and corruption thrived.
You need college/Drug free?/No DUI's/ No order of protections/ No mental problems/Sort of good credit/ live in City/ and lastly physically fit.
The city then spends a nice chunk of change training officers.
You know laws/traffic/paperwork/driving/ karate etc etc.
So if you think you can be replaced that easily you must have forgot how long you waited to get on this JOB.
I thought we were already doing that, or at least I have.
Anonymous said...
In the old days, we called this stationary patrol.
1/03/2015 12:23:00 PM
AGGRESSIVE stationary patrol!!!
>>>Anonymous said...
Back in the mid-70's I was a snot nosed college kid, not even thinking about being the Police. I wrote a paper that stated that Police stations, and EMS should be de-centralized ie. no more Police or FD HQ's "Down Town".That there should be "stations" through out the city, and Police and EMS would respond from these neighborhood "stations".
I flunked the class.
Be Safe Boys and Girls.
1/03/2015 09:59:00 PM<<<
I think you failed because you didn't notice that in a city like Chicago that was already done.
But now under McHatchetman we are reducing the number of stations until we get to the point of a central station buried in the bowels of the city.
Live in 22 , work in 5 , 2 days ago 5:45 suspicious man with wearing a hoodie ,carrying a duffle bag in alley 107 s. Trumbull , 2211 where are you , bt 2206 responds approx 10 min. Later , suspect long gone , later Bt 2211 assigned to 91st and Racine , then to assist with a mental 90th Morgan , assists transporting police fighter metals family 200 s. Damen . That means no police coverage for mt greenwood from 0545 to 0830 . Wtf are we a taxi service ? Time for Dr.anne to request all assignments of 10 sector cars , we are left unprotected in beverly my.greenwood .
Anonymous said...
If everyone is replaceable then that means all the real police can be replaced too?
Certain types of careers are difficult to privatize
doctors
nurses
police
you reply they can just hire security guards?
It was done in New Orleans many moons ago and corruption thrived.
You need college/Drug free?/No DUI's/ No order of protections/ No mental problems/Sort of good credit/ live in City/ and lastly physically fit.
The city then spends a nice chunk of change training officers.
You know laws/traffic/paperwork/driving/ karate etc etc.
So if you think you can be replaced that easily you must have forgot how long you waited to get on this JOB.
1/04/2015 11:13:00 AM
I'm the original poster. I didn't suggest our job could be privatized. I said it would be FEDERALIZED. Big difference. It doesn't matter how long you waited to get on this job. Your replacement has been standing at a TSA checkpoint in the middle of nowhere for the last 5 years waiting for your job. It would take 2 years to re-establish the front line. Don't start with the line of "experience will be lost". How many old-timers do you see passing on their wisdom and experience today? Some, but not many.
9:12 AM I can whole heartedly agree. I was a CFD Paramedic in the 70's before becoming the Police and the Firefighters had a great job! We worked our asses off and every year the # of fires went down and calls for EMS went up!
That will never happen in the Chicago Police Department. If reactive policing were to take place, you would need to disband reactive units such as the DOC, narcotics, gang intelligence, gang enforcement, intelligence, the tact teams, the 06 cars,and area saturation teams. This units are filled with bosses children and the clouted. Many of these people were promised to have these so called high-profile 9161 positions before they even entered the academy. There is no way that these officers will be sent back to the street because in their own little mind it is like taking a step back to be assigned to a beat car.
>>>Anonymous said...
Just like the MAYTAG MAN. Never have to see us, unless its broken !!
1/03/2015 06:42:00 PM<<<
Ahhh...not necessarily true.
We have a Maytag washer with an extended warrantee and we see our MAYTAG MAN every six months for a checkup. He gave us several Tech-Tips about HE(High-Efficiency) washers. The most important was only use detergent marked "HE WASHERS ONLY", Do Not Use any marked "HE & All Other Machines" if you do only use a tablespoon full as they are too concentrated and always use a second rinse. This was a real nice guy and I could go on with what he told us. I'll do that after the next six month checkup.
Actually, there's a couple up sides to this that I've considered. One, coppers wouldn't be sitting-duck targets for the er... um...."oppressed". Second, it'd give armed homeowners some target "practice" which would save court costs and prison expenditures. Third, the "oppressed" fortunate enough to be born with two firing brain cells might figure out that it's a lot more dangerous to commit crimes once the coppers, bound by rules, scrutiny, nit-picking and dubious leadership and support, have more or less stood down and left them to the not-so-tender mercies of really pissed-off citizens who are held to a lesser standard.
It would also keep coppers mostly warm in the winter and mostly cool in the summer.
Gun sales to armed citizens would soar, too, which is always a good thing.
Last, but not least, it'd be a good way of turning the city from a leftist cesspool back to one with some common sense.
To anon @ 9:25
DHS? yeah, lol! Only for minute. When the lawsuits from those over-bearing numbnuts start rolling in, officer injuries abound, time off and sick leave become crushing, a federal union organizer brings Beelzebub to bear and institutes a special tax anyway only it goes to them instead of the city, the citizens will be up in arms and you will be called to catbird's seat to write your own deal.
TSA is the laughingstock agency of the feds. They are useless, parasitic drains on society and know zero about law enforcement. In addition, most couldn't pass the background.
Blogger Happily Retired said...
To anon @ 9:25
DHS? yeah, lol! Only for minute. When the lawsuits from those over-bearing numbnuts start rolling in, officer injuries abound, time off and sick leave become crushing, a federal union organizer brings Beelzebub to bear and institutes a special tax anyway only it goes to them instead of the city, the citizens will be up in arms and you will be called to catbird's seat to write your own deal.
TSA is the laughingstock agency of the feds. They are useless, parasitic drains on society and know zero about law enforcement. In addition, most couldn't pass the background.
1/05/2015 02:01:00 AM
First off, congratulations on the retirement. Second, every single point you mentioned was also made for the air traffic controllers. Planes will be crashing into each other; flying will be as dangerous as hitchhiking in Columbia; New ATC's will crack under the pressure; ATC standards will be lowered to fill spots and people will die because of it; and they will only re-unionize into a worse beast. None of it happened. TSA is only one agency in DHS and it has 55,000 employees. You don't thing there are 5,000 that would meet the rigorous standards we have in place? Guess again. I certainly hope I'm wrong about this even being considered, but do you believe the plan is to let 50% of our department continue doing nothing? If we are truly going to only answer radio calls and "coop" or hide in a hole all night, the CPD can get by with a force of 3,000. You are already retired, but if you think the pension problem will be solved by 7,000 less people paying into it, we've already lost. I don't have much of an answer, but I think that being proud of being a "do-nothing" or "dog" is a tough battle to overcome.
In a similar vein, from the brilliant Ed Reed:
http://www.unz.com/freed/solving-the-police-problem/
Enjoy.
To Anon at 02:01 AM
Thanks for the congrats.
I know DHS has some great cops, but they won't be found in the TSA. You wanna talk coopin'? That IS the TSA. Laziest SOBs I've ever seen.
Most of what I was saying was tongue-in-cheek and I mostly agree with you.
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