Thursday, December 22, 2016

This Crap Again?

  • Chicago Police Supt. Eddie Johnson will introduce recruits to New York-style training methods in 2017 to improve the relationship between cops and a distrustful public, he said in a wide-ranging interview Wednesday.

    Johnson, searching for new ways to prevent a repeat of Chicago’s out-of-control gun violence in 2016, is taking lessons from New York City’s police training academy, which he recently toured.

    Starting in January, the department will launch a pilot program to change the way recruits are introduced to the neighborhoods where they’ll work.

    “Before they go to their district, where they will be formally assigned, we’re going to let them go there for a week or so and meet some community members,” Johnson said. “Then, when they go there for their field training, those same community members will partner up with them and take them around those communities.”

    Johnson said the training will help rookie officers distinguish between “the good people in the community” and the crooks.

    “I liked what I saw in New York,” he said.
We don't have to learn from New York. There's plenty of talent right here in Chicago if you'd just listen. We've been trying that New York crap on-and-off for much of our career. We even imported a top-cop from New York, and we all see how that worked out. New York didn't invent police work.

Here's a simple lesson from us and you don't even have to fly to New York to get it - you want to know how you spot the "good members" of the community? They're the ones going to jobs, doing homework with their kids, maintaining their property, going to church, driving their properly licensed vehicles, sleeping in their own beds at night.

We can't even imagine the liability involved when "partnering" with community members while they point out the ne'er-do-wells ravaging their communities.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sad part is there isn't talent here. With over 95% of gold stars double merit promotees what talent do they have?

12/22/2016 12:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's Hillary and Rham law enforcement and it will be cancelled by March 1 2017.

12/22/2016 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who determines the good from the bad? So is father felcher a "good" person of the community. I think not.

12/22/2016 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Out of control gun violence? How about teaching the jagoffs what a moral compass is for starters. Maybe then there just might be less crime and less shootings in the hood.

12/22/2016 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What good is ANY of this crap if you just catch and release ? Nothing is going to stop the homicides but tough sentencing and tough policing. Quit trying to deflect from the real problems here.

12/22/2016 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geez can this guy implement any of his own ideas or is he just gonna continue to steal everyone else s ideas while he collects a fat pay check? On second thought, what was I thinking? Of course he is

12/22/2016 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's really living up to the name "Special Ed"

12/22/2016 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The stupidest idea I've ever heard of

12/22/2016 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pointing out "crooks"? Well, thats just prejudicial.

12/22/2016 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These people are not "the public". They are something else.

12/22/2016 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ride along community members are probably already packing heat....search them, do isr and dont forget the receipt..or just search them....

by the way.....My mind is seriously thinking about my career and where I call home. I need 8 for 20 but I see trouble on the horizon. I dont want to be deployed to race riots where I become the "bad guy" and do time. Getting close to giving back my star. I have a backup gig but never thought it would be like this when i started...Hope Trump helps us somehow......

12/22/2016 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They make a big deal about the good members of the community, but they don't really matter unless there are enough of them to form a kind of critical mass, and there aren't.

12/22/2016 01:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Son, you are in Chicago. You should not care how they do it New York!

12/22/2016 01:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shit , sit there and let some retard scream at me . ......I made 100,000.00 last year .
Your problem is that you still think you are a policeman .

12/22/2016 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Improve the relationship between cops and cheating lieutenants fire all of them.

12/22/2016 01:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rerun, you are embarrassing yourself.

12/22/2016 01:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Not Barney Fife said...

I am no dummy when it comes to organizational culture AND applying quality methodologies to organizations. With all "the talent" in CPD, I see nothing as to any Leadership or knowledge to apply basic leadership approaches to running the police force in a professional manner.

No matter what quality methodology you use, there are basic tenets that run the same across ALL of them. Deming's 12 points, TQM (Total Quality Management), TCI (Total Continuous Improvement), or Six Sigma, - all start with "Assess the Environment." That means take account of the current situation your organization is in. What is the current state of it?

We could list a number of inadequacies - but let's not waste time. Most of you know what they are.

Once you understand what you are working in, then you can start to make improvements.

That first step, never seems to have been taken - because if it was, you would know you are short good leaders in leadership positions and operations are run poorly. (That means kicking out incompetence - and we all know how hard that is in a Cloutocracy. Incompetence is not kicked out, it's usually put into a management slot due to "knowing the right person" and having that phone call made.)

We can go on in assessing and changing things, but here is what CPD needs to walk away with:

1) You need to understand the environment.
2) You must be willing to change the environment
3) You must be able to apply REAL changes to it.
4) You must be able to assess the changes you made to see if they have been successful.
5) If there has been no positive change, you need to re-assess the changes and change them again.
6) This is a constant and continual process.

Is this being done? Well maybe in a twisted, Chicago-style way, there is lip service that there IS a process but in reality there isn't.

Plus, what works in one organization and its culture, many times will NOT be successful in applying it to another organization. There is NO Universal Solution that applies across the board.

What fits at Company A doesn't necessary fit at Company B. (nor is it successful) You need to understand the culture and politics and make adjustments. Same applies to metropolitan police forces.

"Oh I like what I see in New York." - Well that's good, FOR NEW YORK! What works in Chicago is what works in Chicago.

That would be like going up to Alaska and saying, "Hey these guys really know how to police up here." Well there isn't a lot of Bears running through Chicago streets disrupting garbage cans. The police need to be prepared to deal with what is in THEIR environment.

Just like Florida may have police knowing how to deal with alligators in people's backyards and pools. Not a big thing - it's a typical situation. In Chicago, that "skill set" really doesn't transfer well.

What Chicago has is so far away from what Chicago needs.

First - you need good leadership and that is NOT in place.

Second you need to wake up and realize what you're dealing with, and that means you have the right equipment, you're trained in how to use it, AND you are not afraid to use it when the situation occurs. That being said - EVERY car should be riding around with a shotgun and a rifle. Not the right "police approach"? Stop listening to the "special interest groups" and start getting back to REAL policing and enforcement.

12/22/2016 02:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://bluelivesmatter.blue/cheesecake-factory-demands/

12/22/2016 02:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Want to be like New York ? Start with hiring more police

12/22/2016 03:41:00 AM  
Anonymous What Bullshit Eddie Really said...

Drink the Kool-Aid, you stupid muthafuckas.

(a $190,000 lifetime pension sure beats shaking down speeders on LSD, your honor da Mare)

12/22/2016 03:49:00 AM  
Anonymous a citizen said...

How's morale, officers?

12/22/2016 03:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People are being murdered and the go on as if nothing Is wrong !!!! Eddie Johnson is an idiot . He toured New York at tax payers expense . The problem in Chicago is the people running the city and he is part of it !!!!!!

12/22/2016 04:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the city loves making Chicago officers look at they are incompetent and then treat them like shit not surprised .......

12/22/2016 04:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Area 4 Homicide (Ret.) said...

Off Topic

A Chicago PD legend has passed away at his home in LaPorte, Indiana.

In right column of SCC, scroll down and follow:

ChicagoCop.com (resource)>Documents Archive>Chicago Police Star Magazine> June, 1971 issue (Cover Story)

One helluva cop who always had our backs. R.I.P., Lee.

12/22/2016 04:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, consider the suburbanite recruits having no exposure to other cultures.

12/22/2016 04:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wanna know how to spot the "good" from the "bad"???? Plain and simple...EXPERIENCE! LMAO the members of the community are the ones that let your "foot chase" offender into their home and lock the door on the police. And then look at you dumbfounded. Yep...

12/22/2016 04:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Smile be polite then when you go there remain fetal my young partner.

12/22/2016 05:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't those good community members point out the shooters, burglars, robbers right now. Why do they have to wait to get partnered with a recruit? Oh, I know why they can't tell the police right now, they're not getting paid by the city.

12/22/2016 05:08:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

Anonymous said...

Sad part is there isn't talent here. With over 95% of gold stars double merit promotees what talent do they have?

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Never said "in the exempt ranks"

12/22/2016 05:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My father worked for Crosett back in the day. He shares that story with me. It sounded like a far fetched movie.
Tuff guy. Here again is the link.

ChicagoCop.com (resource)>Documents Archive>Chicago Police Star Magazine> June, 1971 issue (Cover Story)

12/22/2016 05:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So we're basically Afghanistan now? The local contacts point out"the good guys" and "the bad guys"?

12/22/2016 05:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will pfather pfaker be pointing out the crooked aldermen or will the soon to be indicted aldermen be pointing out all the pfoney priests and ministers in their tax exempt churches.
If you need these goofs to point out the other criminals you should be working in a nail salon doing manicures and pedicures with your head way down buried in the sand.

F them we eat our pizza in squares, we don't fold a slice in half and shove it in our mouths.

12/22/2016 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Lil george said...

Who are the community leaders? Lamon? Ja'mal? Pfleger? I'd rather sit in a car for 8 hours with Scothbreath after one of his TRs sessions

12/22/2016 06:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From a troll: Ed, you are making ANOTHER mistake. If you want to train the CPD, send them to the Mayberry PD in Mt. Airy, South Carolina. They have the most support and respect from the public anywhere in this country. So much so the top command of that department usually does not carry a gun and patrol only carries one bullet. Its in their shirt pocket.

They have years of video that are free for you and PPO's to watch and learn. Frankly, the results they have achieved are far superior to anything you will ever learn from NYPD.



12/22/2016 06:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can Get a 2nd Grader to give this Unqualified Prick ASSHOLE a Idea on how to run a Dept , He really has to go to New York To get Idea's , What a Fuckin joke , Because he doesn't have a FRICKIN BRAIN what so ever to come up with a Idea on his own , and he made Superintendent of 12,000 Officers , Doesn't that tell you something

12/22/2016 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My view.......

This isn't NY. However, it's starting to resemble Detroit.

I am born and raised in Chicago.
I love my memories of the city.... the neighborhoods, sports, fairs, etc. The Lake.... really!!!! What a fantastic lakefront and beaches.
Running and biking the lakefront has been a joy.

A decent home, in a ddecent neighborhood is now 300k +. No big deal.
A mediocre condo anywhere near the loop ( NSEW) is 500k. 2bd 2 bath
But....there is subsidized housing in the loop area where they get free condos or reduced pricing.
How the fuck does that equate?

I am heartbroken and have come to the realization that, IT IS OVER. We have lost the battle. By "We", I mean - law abiding, tax paying, hardworking, clean living, legal resident, lawn mowing, garbage in the garbage can, citizens.

Rahm, The City, The Shitheads (translation - asshole, do nothing, suck off the tit, take more than you give, people), whoever...
Have convinced me, to refinance my home for a 30yr. Great rate by the way....when I did. It.
I bought another home in the suburbs.....secondary home rate was a bit steep, but worth it. I had to keep my city home as primary.
My kids live better, better education, lower taxes on shopping. Property taxes are high, but worth it with education being FREE.
No meters to pay.
Not much violent crime.
No BLM
No housing ( well, I don't see it or have it shoved down my throat).
No Cook County and Chicago taxes. Taxes are still a bit high, but less than Cook Co.

Overall...... it is a break even deal, financially. And.....I will have a home I can rent out or sell to anybody I choose when I retire.

As I said.... it was heartbreaking seeing the good people of, what was once a great city, give in/be run over, by the shit that now
is controlling Chicago.

The only hope is, a person like Trump and his kind, taking a stand.
We need a Police State for at least two years here, to get the animals to stop carrying guns.

Back in the day...... coast threw a stop sign on 55th and Justine would get you stopped by the police. No driver license? Arrest
Custodial search subject to arrest - find gun OR - search of vehicle prior to impound.... find gun.
Charges once were approved for a felony UUW.
Now?
Nobody stops nobody. No guns recovered. JOE be driving around looking for a gah gah gah to shoot.

I have great memories.
Memories of great police work....seeing dude get caught.
Memories of being a police family. Why is that bad. Many great companies like NY Yankees, Apple, call themselves families.
Memories of going downtown.
Memories of fests.

The dream is over.



(Sorry for spelling errors. Typing on phone and can't see small lettering. Ahhhh...back home in burbs)

12/22/2016 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for a No Confidence march.

12/22/2016 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So let's understand this brilliant idea. The untrained, uneducated citizens are going to teach the police. The inmates are running the asylum

12/22/2016 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


He's so disrespectful, unappreciative and just plain S T U P I D

I Like New York style ? What a f k'n JOKE !!

Sup and Lt girlfriend are the only talent..... ha ha ha

12/22/2016 06:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McCarthy was the best thing that ever happened to CPD miss him

12/22/2016 06:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McCarthy took two years to acknowledge that we had a gang problem here. He honestly couldn't figure out why we had all there "shootins" and "murders". It was amazing watching his sputter through the COMPSTAT meetings.

Ham Head Ed will once again try to put that New York square peg in the Chicago round hole. The Community members will be all the misfits that are looking to game the system. They will be the same people that flocked to the CAPS meetings. There will be a smattering of decent folk in there, but the vast majority will be useless and cause the whole thing to implode.

If Ed and the rest had a brain between them they would already know this and look for some other way to make their mark. Sadly, they are not that bright.

12/22/2016 06:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fixed it.

Chicago Police Supt. Eddie Johnson will introduce recruits to New York-style training methods in 2017 to improve the relationship between cops and a distrustful **[black]** public, he said in a wide-ranging interview Wednesday.

12/22/2016 06:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got my new fop book in the mail. I have 30 years on. This is the first year I did not promptly place the new sticker on my windshield. Just cannot do it. This job is toast. And no.......I can't retire......don't have the age for insurance.

12/22/2016 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see a whole lot of how to fix the police, and no one is talking about how the "community" should fix itself. Instead of looking at NYC, look at Sheriff David Clark who said "stop trying to fix the police, and fix THE GHETTO."

12/22/2016 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"we’re going to let them go there for a week or so and meet some community members,”

Can't they just look at their mugshots?

12/22/2016 07:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You want us to be like New York... Give us 20 years and out regardless of age, just like New York

12/22/2016 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is our department a mess, because morons are running it. They don't need to be taught good people from bad, you learn that after a day or two on the streets. We seem to keep training police on how to deal with the public, how about this program, LETS TRAIN THE PUBLIC ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THE POLICE. Nah....makes too much sense.

12/22/2016 07:17:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

How many of these "community leaders" can pass a background check? They lead their community into chaos.

12/22/2016 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen hoover will be the 024 citizen representative to indoctrinate the new recruits. Remember her?

12/22/2016 07:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So you made this guy Superintendent at a 170,000 salary and he's new and exciting ideas come from New York. If that is such a great idea then why didn't the New Yorker McCarthy use it?

12/22/2016 07:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as those trains coming into town each morning are filled and the expressways are jammed, Chicago won't change. It's going to take a visible change in the economy to wake up the city's movers and shakers to the fact that their system no longer keeps Chicago competitive with safer places.

12/22/2016 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't trust CPD management or chicagos elected officials.

12/22/2016 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
If Obama has a heart, he will cut Blago loose, even though Blago dicked Obama around over filling Obama's U.S. senate seat. Whatever you think of Blago, he got hosed with an excessive sentence. Send him home to his family. He has already served 5 years. That's enough. Let Blago go.

12/21/2016 01:13:00 AM

NO FUCKING WAY. Blago deserves every single day that he was sentence. Get off the blog Patti!

12/22/2016 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somewhat OT: But would someone please advise DDHQ that we are down 25% in personnel (in that Division alone)...

(Sorry, it'll never be an NYPD 'Bureau')

...and could really give a fuck less about emails complaining about late lists, open/assigned, etc. SAD.

-25%! Can you Gold Star merit hacks even begin to comprehend how that negative shakes out in day to day normal D-Unit operations? I doubt that you do.

Not to mention how 008 blue shirts and 610 Dicks got hosed in The Witch Hunt.

How is McNaughton these days? How is little Jimmy O'Donnell? Did they get their Christmas Shopping all done? Did they kick in at all to help out with Xmas for those fired P.O.'s and Sgt?

We dont forget. We no longer GAF either.

Merry Kwanzaa to You & Barb, Jimmy!!!

12/22/2016 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have a merit system where the leaders are incapable of reading, writing and having an original thought.

12/22/2016 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meet members of the community? Take them on a tour of County so when Dart lets them all out, they know who is who

12/22/2016 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New York City's top Cop was gentrification.

12/22/2016 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We can't even imagine the liability involved when "partnering" with community members while they point out the ne'er-do-wells ravaging their communities.



I bet the urban translators don't find one bad guy...

12/22/2016 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a joke. Special Ed should just read SCC. Some of the posts on here are very good and would be very helpful if only implemented. But things being the way they are, well...
Stay safe Officers, it ain't worth it.

J.J.

12/22/2016 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Always thought recruits should spend a month at ChuckECheese in Oak Lawn to toughen them up and for exposure to ghetto behavior. Too late now, the joint will be closed down.

12/22/2016 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One cannot get any experience if one cannot stop anyone anymore.

12/22/2016 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

http://bluelivesmatter.blue/cheesecake-factory-demands/

12/22/2016 02:34:00 AM
Wow another place that is anti-police asking uniformed coppers to leave! I have said it before this place is supposedly a better place to eat, and coppers continue to eat at places without knowing how the food prepares feel about them! Bring your lunch don't trust anyone except yourself and your family making your food! The scum that work in these places are obviously losers and many have criminal records!

Now on topic the bigger problem Eddie is simply, the exempt gold star goofs some still work for you feared McCrazy, you Eddie they just laugh at you,try getting management that can be respected it starts at the top Eddie, we know rahm needs to be replaced and the 50 pathetic examples of laziness! Come on Eddie you cannot be that stupid, another new "strategy " another "failure" think you were at 1 time the police now your nothing more than a groveler to rahm, and you seem scared really scared to demote the team you have under you even though they produce nothing and we laugh at their antics!

12/22/2016 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's going to point out the bad people when there's a "No Snitch" attitude in the hood?

12/22/2016 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And standing on the corner there PPO Smith is " Luckie Shit ", he's a one boy crime wave here in da hood. As being pointed out, " Luckie Shit opens fire...Oh YEAH. This will work....What a DUMB PHUQ Special Ed is.....YEEEESH......

12/22/2016 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK,this will help the shootings......

12/22/2016 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK Special Ed (BTW, is his take home car shorter than most and bright yellow?)you want the mythical Code of Silence to go away? Try this: LEAD BY EXAMPLE! Admit all you know about the BS on the last Lieutenant's exam, and have those falsely promoted persons relinquish their rank and resign immediately!

12/22/2016 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what a fucking joke and waste of time. These recruits will be working what? Mid nights, days and afternoons. Depends what time of day, etc. they'll be seeing these so called "citizens". All this in addition to only being trained for one cycle in that district only to be moved. Brilliant idea...

12/22/2016 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Community members? Why not post who all these awesome people are in the newspaper?

You know these great people are not giving tours for free. RAHM has put more vote gatherers on the cities payroll through rich ass hats donating millions off the books.

Can i guess that Englewood has most of these great leaders who can't even clean up 1 city block. These leader seem to never create anything but they always seem to come up with ideas where the get a salary from the city.

I am also guessing that Special Ed has no access to officers home addresses. plenty of P.O.'s live in the hood that could have been a great way for those officer to receive some overtime and teach the kids coming in.

But you can hire these GREAT citizen whose families are regularly caught up in homicides for random reason with little education and nice suits.

Phleger?BLM?INTERUPTERs...

12/22/2016 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not gonna work. Fix the FTO program.

12/22/2016 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tina Skahill is back soaking up another check for doing nothing. Everything is going to be OK.

12/22/2016 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe tough fed laws can improve conditions. The real problem is a culture of violence in the " community". The pols and the "community s"failure and refusal to directly address it. These same people foisting the blame upon the police, schools and lack of funding/programs💰💰💰. It's the third rail of politics.dont touch it... just keep dancing around the problem. Just keep scapegoating the police

12/22/2016 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Turned my star in after 13 years. Simply couldn't be the puppet anymore. THE END.

12/22/2016 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is his solution to the FTo shortage. Let the community do the training.

12/22/2016 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O yeah this will work I see no homicides in 2017 hahahahaha sorry what a tool you really are eddie

12/22/2016 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just wondering can we trade our "safe passage" for this?

what can we trade?

12/22/2016 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous merit sgt said...

we need more merit to solve this problem!

12/22/2016 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good, it is about time new officers meet with the Orthodox Jewish community in Rogers Park. For too long they have been neglected by 24th District officers.

12/22/2016 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is true they did this before, with Gays. (Before we had openly Gay Cops, some of whom were going through sex changes.) The Community Representative would show up at Roll Call, talk to you in a condescending manner, and whomever the boss was in the room, he would give you a dirty look, if you asked any question that made the "Guest" uncomfortable. But this Partnering up is a whole new situation. So if you get in a car crash with You driving; will your partner sue you? Will Loevy & Loevy draw up the release from liability? What if something goes down, and your new "Partner" sees his homey is the offender, or his Baby Momma's Brother, or Play Cousin; and he tries to interfere or intervene? Or, how about when you demonstrate running a name, and you use his, and he pops a warrant! New York is different from Chicago, and the stats show that clearly. McCarthy can tell you from his personal experience, including a near fatal heart attack. Have Rahm Partner-up with some of the citizens from the Hood, to give him counsel and advise him on how to do his job. Let's see how that works. Chicago Values: LOL! Baby"G"

12/22/2016 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can lead them around Portage Park. Not coming to Portage Park? awe shucks ... didn't think so


Do you all realize the revruns are written into the Fire Dept. contact? yep, they look over the promo exams or something like that ... just ask a fireman that's in the know ... if you can find one

12/22/2016 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Want to be like New York ? Start with hiring more police

12/22/2016 03:41:00 AM

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nice, and double, possibly triple the # of dicks

12/22/2016 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While working in 018 under Cline's regime he started a program where 'community people' were invited to address the troops at roll call. On the first day, one of the reverends from Cabrini showed up with a female 'community spokesperson.' The reverend spoke for a bit, complained a little, then turned over the floor to the person of the community he invited to accompany him. She began by berating the police in attendance and overall used the pulpit to spit out her self-serving vile. Our Commander who was (ordered) in attendance, Bill O'Donnell (a Prince) was taken aback and totally embarrassed how this community trial balloon turned out in 018. He felt that it was 'his' fault that that his troops had to be subjected to this crap at roll call as he was a big supporter of the women and men in his district. Right after roll call, the Commander immediately drove to 35th Street and went in without an appointment or notice to see Phil Cline. He told him in no uncertain terms that the idea, as evidenced in 018 was a complete sham and a failure. He said he was embarrassed that he had to subject his (2nd Watch) roll call members to this type of verbal admonishment as a whole by some alleged 'community spokesperson.' He continued further saying that he felt even more responsible and embarrassed by this 35th St. idea/debacle in that those in attendance sat there as true professionals, not confronting nor challenging the obvious BS spouted out by the spokesperson to her 'captured audience.' He indicated that his police officers in attendance at the roll call apparently realized that he too was set up by these speakers and that he was merely following orders and a new policy instituted by 35th St. He said he felt that they only did this out of respect for him (true)and that was a sign of the caliber of people at roll that he felt that he not only let down, but indirectly slapped in the face. He told Cline in no uncertain terms that this was a complete failure and a major set back of any semblance of morale in 018 or the department as a whole. Apparently O'Donnell made his point. Cline ordered then Deputy Charlie Williams (now Sts/San) to appear at the 018 2nd Watch check-off that day and apologize in person to all those members who were at that roll call earlier that day for their embarrassing experience. That was the first and last day we had those particular community representatives talk at our roll call in 018. That was over 10 ten years ago, and I'm aware things have drastically changed on the job. I only posted this as one example of SCC's statement that this has been tried before and failed. Personally, I had a lot of respect for our Commander at the time and they way it was handled 'after the fact' without comment on the other players of the command staff involved.
And finally, if you'd read this far... Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, STAY SAFE.
May God Bless and watch over you, one and all.

12/22/2016 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr "Not Barney Fife" What language are you writing in? That appears to be a strategy for companies that actually want real results. Too many egos and incompetence for such a plan here.

12/22/2016 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:12 AM

I checked the June, 1971 issue of the CPD Star magazine. Great cover story on Crossette "Lee" Hamilton. He was definitely "da REAL PO-leese". They don't make 'em like Lee any more. May he rest in peace. Any details on the wake and funeral?

12/22/2016 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the best they can do to justify the Un noble trip to NY???

12/22/2016 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You think Rahm sent him there. Maybe the "mayor" doesn't think there's a a little bit of intelligence in the "sup" that he needs to send hm out somewhere to get an idea to run things. But wait, the homicide rate almost doubled from last years total. Game over. Let's start over. First thing clean out the upper echelon.

12/22/2016 10:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF!!! Is this guy STUPID. The police know the difference between the good people & the crooks in the community. And they use to be able to stop the crooks and if needed pat them down, etc. But now the pussyass city & police brass want the police to take a hands off approach. And the Toni doesnt want them locked up. And the judges barely slap their hands.

Just Stay Fetal and have protect one a=nother & the homefront

12/22/2016 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The NYPD has 36,000 police officers, not including Port Authority police and other arms of local law enforcement. In Chicago we are operating with approximately 6,000 working police officers. If Tiny Dancer wants NYPD results all he has to do is calculate a simple multiplication problem and increase the size of CPD by 500 percent. Then again, he's only counting with 9.5 digits, and just like his physical stature, we'll always be "shorted".

12/22/2016 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what Ed is saying is he has no original ideas of his own. He will copy anthing he thinks may help, and when it doesn't move on to the next idea that he borrows. Ed needs time to grow his pension.

Ed, you are Rahm's whipping boy. Rather than place the cause where it belongs, Rahm is using the police as the boogey man. The goal is to keep the "community" appeased by illusion long enough to win the next election.

Ed you are a tool (in more ways than one) to facilitate the illusion.

12/22/2016 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This city has had such a history of making "pals" with the "Community" and basically backing the wrong horse in a race. So some poor PPO will have to ride along with some loudmouth activist with police prejudice in his heart, telling him how he should do the job.....?

PPO you had better look for another job. This is royally screwed up.....

12/22/2016 10:15:00 AM  
Blogger Sir Donkey, esq said...

2:09...
NO! Just stop!
Those models are for a Product based industry.
The primary faults within the department are political. The department can Address crime, not solve it.

12/22/2016 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And those recruits better not be carrying guns, which we know are very, very scary and dangerous, and certainly would interfere with relating to the 'near-do-wells'....

I think that the recruits should sit on the front stairs, join in a chorus of "Kumbaya" and share the love...

12/22/2016 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry but I do believe that brainwashing g these recruits with BULLSHIT WHILE THEY ARE IN TRAINING has a negative affect. I say bring in some retired coppers who had time on the job a d were workers to tell them what to expect out there, from how they are treated by bosses to the court system, fellow officers and oeople. Sometimes telling ut like it is with no fear factor is good. The academy can still teach them what they need but make them wiser. My daughter is coming on soon and much to my demise she wants this job, she is smart and I will do my best to make her wiser. Stay safe and healthy, a retired Sergeant who took care of his people.

12/22/2016 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon said:

") You need to understand the environment.
2) You must be willing to change the environment
3) You must be able to apply REAL changes to it.
4) You must be able to assess the changes you made to see if they have been successful.
5) If there has been no positive change, you need to re-assess the changes and change them again.
6) This is a constant and continual process."

Say what?

Dear, Professor Irwin Cory; Thank you for your enlightenment.

I will surly consider all of your key points and re-read them whenever I am sitting on the crapper and enjoying my break from relating to the near-do-wells.

12/22/2016 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

September 2018 can't arrive any sooner!

55! and out of here Class of August 1990!

2018! can't arrive any sooner!

sit back and stay stay on auto pilot-stay fetal!

12/22/2016 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The best thing to be found from New York City on policing is the idea that bosses (exempts) get fired or demoted if they don't produce results and aren't really on top of their jobs.

As SCC and others are suggesting in comments, it would require a wholesale replacement of Chicago's exempt structure with competent people.

This crap about what Johnson "learned" this week is worthless.

12/22/2016 10:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If democrats cared about the children , they would not back politicians that say to many colored people in jail , elect judges that are soft on crime . Chicago will turn Republican in 2018 . If Chuy came within 10% of winning , his own people backed rahm to keep the power,graft going , Republicans smell the Blood and will run a strong law and order candidate .
Like Trump told citizens , 700 murders ,4000 shot , shitty schools . What the hell do you have to lose .
98% of blacks respect police , believe in God and are sick of seeing their kids shot down like dogs , hooked on drugs .

12/22/2016 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm guessing this will only take place in "the community"

12/22/2016 10:42:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

This may sound **prejudiced --not that I care-- but one thing these Bosses and (cough-bullshit) 'experts' should keep in mind is that New York City isn't like Chicago, not in the least, not even close: Not in size, not in geographic layout, not in neighborhoods, not in demographics, and last but not least the attitudes of the people of NYC(1).

Case in point; even though NYC is considered a 'democrat city', the people will still vote in a Republican as Mayor. So even NYC Democrats and Chicago Democrats are different (don't include the current dip-shit mayor as a democrat, he's a goddamn flaming socialist (commie)).

As such, what may work brilliantly in NYC would, will, blow-up like the Hindenburg and go down in a pile of blazing ashes in Chicago (It's why I figured McNewlywed was doomed from the start).

So what Special Ed and his crew did was in effect was, attend a lecture on how to Successfully Grow Oranges, when he wants to know how to Grow Tomatoes.

(1) Has anyone ever had a friend from NYC, I did, he was from Queens. Even when they're trying to be nice they still come across as an asshole. They think they know f--king everything.

12/22/2016 10:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if the NYPD has honest promotional tests? We could try that, it would be a totally new direction for the CPD.

12/22/2016 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More smoke and mirrors from a bumbling fool. Lol. Listen citizens, What happened was your good mayor had decided to let loose the ACLU ( a liberal watchdog organization that has no legal authority and a reputation for going after police) to oversee every single police stop/ encounter and decide its legality. Instead of a judge like it has been done in court for years. Add to this that we have a superintendent that is cozy with the activists and thinks nothing of stripping coppers for being aggressively proactive and doing their job, and the result: Ain't nobody doing shit because we don't want to get sued or lose our income. It ain't worth it for a community that has never gotten it's shit together. Just blames the very system it relies on to survive.

Don't talk to me about the good citizens in da hood. They enable their shitty ones by not getting involved together and standing up to the dope boys. They make excuses for them ( oh well that's all they have. They have to survive, etc..) . The only time I have ever seen the good citizens rally or organize is when a white cop shoots an "unarmed" black man.

Ironically our leader is seeking advice from a city police (NYPD) that pioneered the stop and frisk. It is the reason crime plummeted in NY. Rudy Gulliani did not have an ISR or the ACLU up the NYPDs ass when he cracked down on crime. For the simple reason. More unabstructed stops by police = less shitheads out and about packing dope or pistols.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't have it both ways. These jagoffs on the street are some very violent people. Human life has no value to them. They kill each other like its nothing. How the fuck are you supposed to combat that with the soft, community officer friendly mentality?

Remeber: Police are the problem. Be the change. Lmao.

12/22/2016 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another slap in the face for the Police...FROM THE POLICE.
The assface has over 750 murders under his watch and YOU are the problem.
Come see how Democrats collapsed the community. No Jobs & No Hope. Come see and feel the Rahm Experience of out of control spending on social programs having no positive effect on prosperity. Come and see what all your privileges have resulted, after all it's your fault.
The Blame the Police Tour continues. Parading Recuits before the community like peace offerings.
The Merit-Exempts have really shown their worth, intelligence and mostly Trust from the lowly patrolman.
Jagbag and flunky Special Ed just laid out all his racist cards in an attempt to save his own ass.
Now go out there and get some ISR's and traffic tickets.

12/22/2016 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Shit , sit there and let some retard scream at me . ......I made 100,000.00 last year .
Your problem is that you still think you are a policeman .

12/22/2016 01:06:00 AM

Capital "P" on the word "Policeman," please...
Other than that, you're right on target with
a lot of us having the problem of still thinking
we're Policemen.

And in Chicago, it is Policemen who constitute
"the problem" in the eyes of the knee-walking,
Cultural Surrenderist progressives and their
forever unsatisfied, perpetually aggrieved,
protected peoples and folkses foot soldiers
who are keeping hospital E/Rs and
Cook County Morgue jumping.

Let alone keeping The Police firmly tied in knots
and running all over without respite...

Special Ed looking high and low for a miracle
cure that will somehow make Policemen become
engaged like once-upon-a-not-that-long-ago...

>Ship sailing...<

The atmosphere in Chicago has become toxic
for anything other than bland, flavorless,
unsexy, unexciting, non-controversial,
self-protective Policing that every political
and media swing-dick/hang-tit denounces
as "Crime Is Out of Control Because You
Coppers are Pouting and Refusing to Put
Their Hands on People."

Rahm's side-deals with the ACLU and #blm
to deflect from his suppressing the JVD/LMcD
video to win another term in office?
=
Stop putting your hands on peoples
and folkses in the community.

Period.

Rahm changing our Use of Force Model?
=
Stop defaulting to your recruit training
and human instinct during conflict
situations with members of a protected
demographic.

It draws too much attention to Rahm diverting
money from ongoing Use of Force training
beyond watching streaming videos.

Time on the range and time in the gym
are expenditures Rahm figures he can get
away with curtailing.

Beancounter-ism and corporatism badly
misfit Policing because of the messy and
unpredictable nature of the end users of
the bulk of Police services.

But tha doesn't stop all these bright, cheerful
and chirpy prog-tards from promulgating their
usual ass-pocketful of bright ideas on how to
reform The Police instead of actually doing
something about the wild-assed death cultists
plying their trade.

It's safer to fuck with Policemen.
They tend NOT to do foul shit like
crashing a burning car through
reporter and editorial board member
front doors at 3am and other such.

You Cops got rules to abide by, at least.

Oh yeah, lest we forget Kimisha "The Peoples
an' Folkses Revenge" Foxx as state's attorney...

Police Like You Have No Friends.

12/22/2016 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not exactly on topic, but a gang member told me years back that they (the gang) took pride in killing a rival on or around the holidays, as their death would cause more grief to the family at that time of year(Christmas and Easter). Be careful out there boys and girls.
ORG (old retired guy)

12/22/2016 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We don't have to learn from New York. There's plenty of talent right here in Chicago if you'd just listen. We've been trying that New York crap on-and-off for much of our career. We even imported a top-cop from New York, and we all see how that worked out. New York didn't invent police work."

I respond:

I disagree. Chicago police and Chicago citizens can learn a great deal from the Guliani/Bratton/Kelly NYPD clean up of New York City in the mid 1990s and make no mistake, this wasn't father Faker, BlackLiesMatter, Attorney General Eric Holder/Loretta Lynch Liberal community policing.

It was broken windows theory, stop and frisk profiling, infiltration of gangs and terrorists.

Study what works and notice when there are no nonsense tough White guys like Guliani and Trump running things.

12/22/2016 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From now on offenders will be know as perp's, ambulances will be called buses and when identify when off duty to a cop instead of saying that you are a police officer you will say "Iam on the job". all offenders will be given yellow pads of paper and told to write down their story.

12/22/2016 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Worst Supt ever. He's slick and is playing everyone.

http://kwqc.com/ap/chicago-police-to-take-on-code-of-silence-on-the-force/

12/22/2016 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: tac officers were told In 011 that the thin blue line American flag had to be taken down in the tac office because someone complained and it's considered a political statement. This flag is in a private office where the public can not see it. Order came from captain to good to say hello or say anything at all to you sesso.

12/22/2016 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really? The Supe repeatedly displays no leadership or the ability to think for himself. He has roughly thirty years experience and this pandering bullshit is what he comes up with? Embarrassing. The whole department is being forced to hang their heads in shame over the holidays.

12/22/2016 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lee Hamilton to no him was to love him, glad he made them on retirement, R.I.P, 24 rogers pk ptlm. he had balls of a Lyon.

12/22/2016 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a simple concept, happy workers are productive workers. The exempt ranks are so filled with clout and racial promotions that they really have little experience being the police. They have nothing to draw from when they are attempting to motivate and lead. Instead they have to go to New York and copy their politically correct nonsense. Put a Mad Dog in charge of CPD and see what happens.

12/22/2016 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

75 out of the 95% are triple merit political hacks
promote some smart ,educated patrolman or sergeants to command staff
many were passed over by these current exempts

easier to turn each other in for wrong doing
special ed , wheeeziee start the charge
you will feel better next time you look in the mirror

12/22/2016 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous SNOWFLAKE said...

Can you help me find a safe place? Trump frightens me.

12/22/2016 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This aint New York you jagoff. Grow a set of balls and tell the mayor you're running the department and he should stay out, or else promote himself to Supt.

12/22/2016 01:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When did the black community become a "study" . When did the black community become a neolithic tribe recently found living on a deserted island. I am a white man, I find this amazingly demeaning and disrespectful for ALL parties.
This smacks of some federal money being spent on foolishness again. Measuring methane gas from a cows ass seems a more productive than this.

12/22/2016 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddies lost adrift in the sea! A rudderless ship, with his so called command staff surrounding him singing kumbia!

12/22/2016 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm so sick of this "Distrust of the public" statement. Guess what? The hard working good people on the west side, like and trust us! The hard working good people in Englewood and the southside neighborhoods, like and trust us. Its mostly the criminals and their families who are sold by the criminals lies that don't like or trust us. I truly wish or staff would stop falling into the pressures of the media and those who finance their lives by those same criminals which imprison our troubled communities.

12/22/2016 02:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Working tact back in the 80's-80's we had an arrest book like we used in the Area (after making Det by testing well). That along with the mug shots would help any newcomer get an idea who is and who isn't a problem in "the community" and pin point where they have been pinched, you know the corner they are holding down for their nation. The problems are just like lamp posts they just stand in the same place and move a little with the wind, usually from their ass.
Biggest question are "the folks/people" from the community getting paid to spot the do nothings that litter the public way with "their right to assemble" or are they doing this out of their concern that "no one will be profiled".

12/22/2016 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If he wants the department to be like New York, just bring Garry Back.

12/22/2016 02:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, I don't think it's going to be all that bad. Especially as one poster here already pointed out that the suburbanite hires more likely have had very little exposure to other races/cultures where they're from. Don't be so quick to pan it before trying it out. It certainly cannot hurt an already bad situation in many communities already.

12/22/2016 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

by the way.....My mind is seriously thinking about my career and where I call home. I need 8 for 20 but I see trouble on the horizon. I dont want to be deployed to race riots where I become the "bad guy" and do time. Getting close to giving back my star. I have a backup gig but never thought it would be like this when i started...Hope Trump helps us somehow......

If you think that a changing of the guard is going to improve community relations in regard to law enforcement over the next 100 days, or even the next two years, then you need to take that 'backup gig' right NOW, Francis. It took years for things to get this bad, and it's going to take a few years to right the ship, and it's going to have to happen on both sides, whether some here want to admit it or not. At least some of the blame for the sad state of affairs between the public and police falls on us as law enforcement professionals also. I know that I have personally cringed when seeing some of the more viral videos of some of us at our worst. If both sides are committed to real improvement and transparency, the current state of madness will only continue.

12/22/2016 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey everyone, just keep in mind that "Special Ed" (Eddie) is just a political puppet being "jerked" around on the end of his leash. Any dignity, morals or spine that he ever had were tossed out his bedroom window long-long ago. He'll just keep kissing the brown musturd hole until he gets his big fat pension.

12/22/2016 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't care what Special Ed does, I'm out. Lines have been drawn and he chose the other side, the Kim Fox, black lives matter, the police are the problem side. Special Ed is an embarrassment, a puppet Rham is using to vilify the police and deflect attention away from City Hall and Rham's involvement in the McDonald video cover up. And it's working, Rham is going to run on this false notion that he fixed the most corrupt and racist police department in history and he's probably going to win again.

I use to really love this city and this job, now it's just a job and I'm counting down the days until I can get out. It's sad.

12/22/2016 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will we be taught how to cheat on lieutenants promotional exams like they do in NYC too?
Or is that something we don't need help with?

12/22/2016 04:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man, if you thought being an FTO was a bad idea before, what is it now??? It was said that being an FTO, you were "10-99 with an eyewitness." Now you are 10-99 with 2 witnesses. At least one of them possibly hostile. VERY hostile.

A lot of questions.
Are these "community members" screened? Any background check? If I demonstrate to them how a name check works and they pop with a warrant....It happens.

Are the "good members of the community" going to be riding with me on 1st watch? Make them real productive at work the next day.

Obviously a liability release will have to be filed. But will body armor be available?
If they are injured am I indemnified?

Thankfully retired

12/22/2016 04:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

commander bill O'Donnell was both very smart n a prince to work for what ever happened to him it is ashame he retired so early

12/22/2016 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mayor braggs about saving 175 million by cutting out retire healthcare. I brag about working for another 10 years till I'm 60 making 90 grand a year and not doing one ISR or generating one CB for the next ten years.

12/22/2016 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who will train our bosses? Remember our bosses, the ones who couldn't pass promotional exams without cheating. Then there were some bosses that couldn't pass the exam and are promoted meritoriously.

12/22/2016 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7,500 killed in Chicago over the next ten years. I figure I'm gonna stick around another ten years because the mayor is so proud of cutting out my health care. Too bad he won't be about to get any younger cops out here to safeguard the citizens. The line for me in the budgets will be filled up for the next ten years. I'll be 60 then.

12/22/2016 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you really expect this superintendent to have an original thought about how to stem the tide of killings?

12/22/2016 05:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tina Skahill is back soaking up another check for doing nothing. Everything is going to be OK.

12/22/2016 09:06:00 AM

What a waste of money. Shameful. Like she isn't making enough with her gold braid pension. She must have done a solid for Special Ed somewhere along the way.

12/22/2016 06:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Community Members"? In Chicago when you pull over a car filled with gangbangers who are poisoning and shooting up the community its the "Community Members" who come running out Helter Skelter with their welfare phones to video tape you and make sure your not violating the rights of the criminals.

Another great idea from the Edmeister. Maybe he can send Granny Klampett and they can mix Spokane and NYNY methods and come up with the super strategy. Yaknow? A west coast/east coast thing?

12/22/2016 06:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Obama has a heart, he will cut Blago loose, even though Blago dicked Obama around over filling Obama's U.S. senate seat. Whatever you think of Blago, he got hosed with an excessive sentence. Send him home to his family. He has already served 5 years. That's enough. Let Blago go.

12/21/2016 01:13:00 AM

NO FUCKING WAY. Blago deserves every single day that he was sentence. Get off the blog Patti!

12/22/2016 07:45:00 AM

I am not related to Blago, but I have been around long enough to know he got sentenced way beyond a deserved amount of years. Let him go home to his family.

12/22/2016 06:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

by the way.....My mind is seriously thinking about my career and where I call home. I need 8 for 20 but I see trouble on the horizon. I dont want to be deployed to race riots where I become the "bad guy" and do time. Getting close to giving back my star. I have a backup gig but never thought it would be like this when i started...Hope Trump helps us somehow......

@@@@@

Wow, you sound as soft as they come? Don't worry, you don't have to jump every time you see your shadow. You should be promoted just from your post as most bosses have no spine.. what a little girl rant. Go pout somewhere else little girl.

12/22/2016 06:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good, it is about time new officers meet with the Orthodox Jewish community in Rogers Park. For too long they have been neglected by 24th District officers.

12/22/2016 09:31:00 AM

I hope this is sarcasm.

12/22/2016 06:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tomorrow they are going to run a story about how Special Ed was the Deputy Chief and how he agreed that Van dyke was justified. If EJ is still here by summer I'd be surprised. Take that Wheezy with

12/22/2016 08:09:00 PM  
Blogger Retired Gus said...

Don't know about all the command ranks because of CORRUPTION in New York this is how you make Sgt. Take a written test if you make over 70% then you get to add in extra points for seniority and awards The extra points that are added in won't get you promoted unless you did well on the written part. Never happen in Chicago!

12/22/2016 09:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You once, twice, three times a failed strategy.

Insanity!!!

12/22/2016 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: tac officers were told In 011 that the thin blue line American flag had to be taken down in the tac office because someone complained and it's considered a political statement. This flag is in a private office where the public can not see it. Order came from captain to good to say hello or say anything at all to you sesso.

I've worked tact in 011 for 20 years I have never seen an American flag in the tact rooms. So this is someone just trying to start shit. Speaking of season he has had a nice police career. Stop being so bitter sesso. Things are not that bad. Why don't you buy yourself a personality with all that captain money you are making.

12/22/2016 09:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Not Barney Fife said...

Anonymous said -----
I will surly consider all of your key points and re-read them whenever I am sitting on the crapper and enjoying my break from relating to the near-do-wells.

12/22/2016 10:29:00 AM
------------------------------------------------------
To Patrolman Crapper -
And I know you are still a Patrolman because you would never be able to pass the Sergeant's Exam based on your poor spelling. (unless you are some "Merit hack" which then I have absolutely NO respect for you)

Those "Key Points" I outlined were to review Command Staff and their concepts - not YOU in your job on the street.

If you read carefully, I said each car should be equipped with both shotgun and rifle (AND each of you would have to have the proper training to use them). Do you even know how to use an AR-15 or are you intimidated by "big guns"?

You wouldn't need training if you came out of the Military, but I doubt if you served in any Ranger outfit, SEAL Team or Marines.

That's the problem. You probably got on because of some clout.

In the REAL world, your Command Staff would be thrown out in a New York Minute. People like me are NOT impressed with incompetence and bumblers. AND, we see through them pretty quick.

Your life on the street depends on people leading you who have no clue as to what it is to BE on the Street.

That Assessment I talked about would weed out all those incompetent "Merits" and require them to be replaced with people who know the streets AND who can LEAD people. Notice the word I used - LEAD - not manage. No one likes to be "managed" - including you (probably?).

So before you criticize me, Patrolman Crapper, realize that I could run CPD a LOT better than anyone with a Gold Braid or a Gold tooth.

In one post, I pinpointed a HUGE problem with CPD - the Command Staff (which I think most would agree with) and I also gave a recommendation that should have been instituted years ago, after the LA Bank debacle where LAPD was outgunned on the street.

Shotguns and Rifles in every car - and EVERYONE should know how to use them and not be afraid to use them. If not, get off the force.


12/22/2016 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So if we are doing a New York thinks can we at least fly in a private jet to Vegas and the super bowl with strippers and hookers? Just saying

12/22/2016 11:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'm so sick of this "Distrust of the public" statement. Guess what? The hard working good people on the west side, like and trust us! The hard working good people in Englewood and the southside neighborhoods, like and trust us. Its mostly the criminals and their families who are sold by the criminals lies that don't like or trust us. I truly wish or staff would stop falling into the pressures of the media and those who finance their lives by those same criminals which imprison our troubled communities."

The problem as stated in previous posts is many of the hires have had Zero exposure to these communities or cultures. The hardworking people shouldn't be subjected to being arbitrarily stopped by the Police for walking to school, work or church for that matter.
If you claim that doesn't occur on a daily basis, I will gladly tell you to your face you're a F'ng Liar.


12/23/2016 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Second you need to wake up and realize what you're dealing with, and that means you have the right equipment, you're trained in how to use it, AND you are not afraid to use it when the situation occurs. That being said - EVERY car should be riding around with a shotgun and a rifle. Not the right "police approach"? Stop listening to the "special interest groups" and start getting back to REAL policing and enforcement."

Your post made a lot of good salient points until this part. This is the every problem is nail and can only be solved with a hammer.
The best tools you can have is common sense and what's between your ears. Which we know is lacking at all levels on the CPD.

12/23/2016 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is going to introduce the NYPD pension policies to Rahm and Rauner? A city much larger than ours with a Police Dept 3x our size has a almost fully funded pension fund and the benefits to retire are phenomenal compared to our lovely shithole of a city.

12/23/2016 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous A Girl :-P said...

*Mitch* Ass* Comment* (you sir would be a Mich a.k.a. Male Bitch!
Wow, you sound as soft as they come? Don't worry, you don't have to jump every time you see your shadow. You should be promoted just from your post as most bosses have no spine.. what a little girl rant. Go pout somewhere else little girl.
12/22/2016 06:44:00 PM

12/23/2016 06:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
My father worked for Crosett back in the day. He shares that story with me. It sounded like a far fetched movie.
Tuff guy. Here again is the link.

They threw away the mold after Crossett (Lee) was made. He was a good guy, a hero several times over and a good guy.

R.I.P.

12/23/2016 06:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

commander bill O'Donnell was both very smart n a prince to work for what ever happened to him it is ashame he retired so early

Had to...

12/23/2016 07:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lee Hamilton to no him was to love him, glad he made them on retirement, R.I.P, 24 rogers pk ptlm. he had balls of a Lyon.

12/22/2016 12:28:00 PM

I agree. He had big balls and was a good man. May he rest in peace, or as you might write, wrest in piece.

Back in the day, your GOCR's must have been a hoot!

12/23/2016 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12/22/2016 07:38:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So you made this guy Superintendent at a 170,000 salary and he's new and exciting ideas come from New York. If that is such a great idea then why didn't the New Yorker McCarthy use it?

12/22/2016 07:38:00 AM
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170,000? Try more like OVER 260,000. He makes more then tha Mayor does. The 1st Dept is making 197,000 a yr.
Police Chiefs are at 185,000 with all the Dept Chiefs themselves at 170,000

12/23/2016 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Special Ed, while you were in New York did you get a chance to have a talk with Frank RFeagan down at 1 PP?
Or maybe go on a ride along with Danny? Or did you have a chance to talk to Sid Gormley who didnt change just because he got promoted?

This is NOT N.Y. And what works there wont work here until the courts & elected officials change

12/23/2016 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The liberals are afraid of trump? Over 750 murders in Chicago, trump isn't the president yet and Chicago is run by the democrats. Why are you afraid of trump? Did Soros tell you to be afraid of trump? I think you should be afraid of disfunctional politicians like Rahm and hillary.

12/23/2016 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I understand that some top brass went in New York recently to is it thier new training facility all paid for by New York and all including our own Eddie Johnson was a total embaerase mentioned and some never went to any training, opting to site see, eat and drink. New York is really pissed about this and vows to never send us another invite. I wonder if Eddie brought his Lt. Lady friend

12/23/2016 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hire 7,000 more coppers like New York has done, but New York has even more!

12/23/2016 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Eddie. You must be satisfied with 750 murdered and over 4200 shot and wounded. You must also be satisfied with the overall clearance rate of 20% for all crimes committed in Chicago. That means 1 out of 5 criminals are convicted for their crimes. Seems to me that this is a police force that looks out for the criminal and not the tax paying, God fearing, law abiding citizens. A leader who wants to win the war is always looking for ways to make his troops more effective in pursuit of winning/ protecting the citizens of this city. You however are constantly looking for ways to make your troops less effective to ensure the enemy wins. The men and women of the CPD are the example of how a civilized society should conduct themselves both lawfully and morally. The law of the land is the law created for everyone to comply with or face the prescribed remedy. Yet you want to alter the law of the land to brainwash your troops to accept the recommendations from the enemy who is not civilized, is morally deficient and lives by the law of the land. As Elvis would say "You're the devil in disguise"

12/23/2016 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lee is my grandfather. A father figure and the man that taught me what to do and not to do. R.i.p. toughest man i knew.

12/23/2016 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Criminals and their families never trusted the police and to this day do not trust the police because they are the only entity that can arrest them for their unlawful activity. Law abiding families trust and admire the police because they conduct their lives obeying the law and respecting the authority our government has entrusted to our police officers. The difference between today and 20 years ago is the criminal feared the police. This mayor, crook county board president, sheriff,superintendent, aclu and media has taken away the fear factor and are content with the new levels of lawlessness, violence, murder and mayhem the have carefully manufactured. The presidential election has awakened a sleeping giant who wants law and order restored and once again respected. The people have spoken and said the law of jungle is not the same as the law of the land. Until this happens in Chicago nothing will change. The corruption and lawlessness at all levels of government and society will continue and the people who obey the law of the land will continue to be victimized by those who their tax dollars support and live by the law of the jungle.

12/23/2016 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My New Years wish is that someone would start a blog designed to specifically document corruption in cook county government and the Chicago city council. It should include all city/county agencies and would provide a forum for a small amount of city and county employees who did not inherit the job because of clout. There are plenty of people out there who would like to talk about the corruption in Chicago/Cook County but do not have the forum. No bid contracts, the Chicago public schools waste and corruption, the ghost pay rollers who are still on the job or are now collecting a pension from their ghost pay roller position. The subject matter would be plentiful. I'm sure their are plenty of high ranking city/county officials who know plenty of unlawful activity that is happening and have intimate knowledge of who is benefiting. It's would need a catchy name though. Chicago Taxpayers Demand Accountability. The Chicago Way. Chicago Citizen Inspector General Hotline. Chicago's Drop a Dime on Corruption. Chicago Citizens Corruption Consortium. Any other ideas?

12/23/2016 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SNOWFLAKE said...

Can you help me find a safe place? Trump frightens me.

12/22/2016 12:54:00 PM
Yes anywhere in the United States of America that is not controlled by Democrats.

12/23/2016 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon said:

") You need to understand the environment.
2) You must be willing to change the environment
3) You must be able to apply REAL changes to it.
4) You must be able to assess the changes you made to see if they have been successful.
5) If there has been no positive change, you need to re-assess the changes and change them again.
6) This is a constant and continual process."

Well I'm no professor but it seems to me that if all people had a job or went to school in preparation for their job change would be swift. There is a huge difference in criminal activity between Norwood Park and Garfield Park. Why you ask? Norwood Park everyone works a legal job to provide for themselves and their family or goes to school. In Garfield Park their job is collecting government subsidies so they don't have to work or go to school leaving them with unlimited time to plot, scam and steal what they refuse to work for. You know something is wrong when momma says her son works the corner every morning and considers that to be a legit JOB. Problem with professors/Democrats is too much diagnosis and not enough common sense.

12/23/2016 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wtf!

12/23/2016 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ot
The new administrator in charge of the Skokie library does not want uniform policeman to just walk in any longer. Officers are expected to simply only stop by the front desk and announce their reason for going inside before allowed to go inside. The reason is the Library has private security to handle anything and everything inside the library. Another anti police public space in Skokie

12/23/2016 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not Barney Fife said...
Anonymous said -----
I will surly consider all of your key points and re-read them whenever I am sitting on the crapper and enjoying my break from relating to the near-do-wells.

12/22/2016 10:29:00 AM
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To Patrolman Crapper -
And I know you are still a Patrolman because you would never be able to pass the Sergeant's Exam based on your poor spelling. (unless you are some "Merit hack" which then I have absolutely NO respect for you)

Those "Key Points" I outlined were to review Command Staff and their concepts - not YOU in your job on the street.

If you read carefully, I said each car should be equipped with both shotgun and rifle (AND each of you would have to have the proper training to use them). Do you even know how to use an AR-15 or are you intimidated by "big guns"?

You wouldn't need training if you came out of the Military, but I doubt if you served in any Ranger outfit, SEAL Team or Marines.

That's the problem. You probably got on because of some clout.

In the REAL world, your Command Staff would be thrown out in a New York Minute. People like me are NOT impressed with incompetence and bumblers. AND, we see through them pretty quick.

Your life on the street depends on people leading you who have no clue as to what it is to BE on the Street.

That Assessment I talked about would weed out all those incompetent "Merits" and require them to be replaced with people who know the streets AND who can LEAD people. Notice the word I used - LEAD - not manage. No one likes to be "managed" - including you (probably?).

So before you criticize me, Patrolman Crapper, realize that I could run CPD a LOT better than anyone with a Gold Braid or a Gold tooth.

In one post, I pinpointed a HUGE problem with CPD - the Command Staff (which I think most would agree with) and I also gave a recommendation that should have been instituted years ago, after the LA Bank debacle where LAPD was outgunned on the street.

Shotguns and Rifles in every car - and EVERYONE should know how to use them and not be afraid to use them. If not, get off the force.



12/22/2016 10:09:00 PM

Some dickhead goes to Calumet College for two years and know he thinks he is a management savant.

12/23/2016 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Especially as one poster here already pointed out that the suburbanite hires more likely have had very little exposure to other races/cultures where they're from.
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Yea, sure, there are no hispanics or blacks in the suburbs. The suburbs may be more white than the city, but all of them except maybe Kenilworth have minorities in them.

As far as the culture/race thing goes, I was a bad kid, I grew up near North and Pulaski, was always in trouble and later I worked in housing and I spoke to a Lt. before I got assigned there and he commented how much of a culture shock white officers got when assigned there. Well, I was no wide eyed, clueless little kid and I was SHOCKED at the level of violence. Several of my acquaintances were murdered when I was a teen, dude, in the ghetto, the violence is unimaginable to an outsider. You would raise the shirt of an 18 year old and he might have as many as 3 scars from previous shootings. The police see and know this, the tax paying public has no clue. They are fed the diet of how bad cops are and these poor young marauders are somehow our victims?

When you break the law in minor ways all the time, breaking real laws is not much of a stretch. Ask the average Heather, law abiding, working person who just knows, since she has a college degree, she is smarter than you and REALLY knows what goes on, just what are these monsters doing and she hasn't a clue and won't believe you if you tell her. It just COULDN'T happen like you say!

12/23/2016 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Patrolman Crapper -
And I know you are still a Patrolman because you would never be able to pass the Sergeant's Exam based on your poor spelling. (unless you are some "Merit hack" which then I have absolutely NO respect for you)

+++++


Oh God, self-professed hero, relax. You say you're not talking about the blue shirt you addessed yet consistently use "you," "your," and other personal forms of address. Rifles and shotguns in every car? You invoke SEALs and marines... What is your military background? I know and am proud of what I did in the military and I have known and served with great cops. I agree that more rifle qualificatied officers is a salient decision but a shotgun? The only thing we use a shotgun for in the army is for breaching. It's low magazine content, high reload time, range, shot-to-shot recoverability and ballistics make it impractical and downright stupid for close quarters room clearance and combat scenarios and completely ineffective for distance shooting.

You, at the end of the day, are a complete clown. We have idiots in supervisory roles but we have the talent and tools necessary for good police work. Our supervisors tend to suck, true. However, the weak liberal mindset, defunct court system, corrupt media and police witch hunts have signaled the need to freeze any and all police action when a violent encounter with violent criminals is possible. I don't care what tool you have on your person, how proficient you are in employing such weapon system, it is useless if you face jail, loss of job and wages, and public/financial ruin as a result.

So go back to reading about heros because you'll never be one...clown

12/23/2016 01:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"They threw away the mold after Crossett (Lee) was made. He was a good guy, a hero several times over and a good guy.

R.I.P.

12/23/2016 06:52:00 AM"

The Legend of the L I E U T lives on....

12/23/2016 08:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This flag is in a private office where the public can not see it. Order came from captain to good to say hello or say anything at all to you Sesso".

Private Office? Harrison & Kedzie isn't Corporation it's a Municipal Building Shit for Brains. What shift you on? I 'd gladly drive down to 3151 to inform you how much of a Dumbass you are.

12/23/2016 09:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I personally did this with every recruit I trained over two decades.

Hire po's born and raised in urban environments and familiar with its people and their issues. Also, give the incentives to patrol theneighborhoods they grew up in.

12/24/2016 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, but CPD has plenty to learn from NYC. The homicide numbers don't lie.

12/25/2016 05:47:00 PM  

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