Friday, December 23, 2016

Unqualified Investigators?

The City wouldn't hire unqualified people and put them in a position to actually do real damage, would they? We mean besides Special Ed and his merry cabal of cheating hacks:
  • The union that represents Chicago Police officers says that investigators hired by the city to look into officer-involved deaths don’t meet the state’s minimum training requirements, according to a lawsuit filed Thursday in Cook County Circuit Court.

    The Fraternal Order of Police Lodge No. 7 is asking a court to rule that the city is not in compliance with the requirements of the Illinois Police Training (IPTA) and Police and Community Relations Improvement (PCRIA) acts, according to the suit, which seeks unspecified damages and to compel the city to become compliant.

    The PCRIA, which took effect Jan. 1, requires at least one of the investigators looking into an officer-involved death be certified by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training Standards Board as a lead homicide investigator, or be approved by the board for training of similar standards, the suit states.

    The FOP claims the Independent Police Review Authority (IPRA), which investigates officer-involved deaths in Chicago, does not currently, nor did it before, have lead investigators that met the state’s standards, according to the suit.

The City doesn't want qualified people investigating - they might actually follow the law and determine that via policy, most police shootings are actually justified, and therefore legal. That isn't politically palatable to certain segments of the community, so Rahm can't have qualified people looking around. He needs people who will do what they're told when it comes time to have someone under the bus to save a politicians' ass.

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44 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow we provided FLOP with this information prior to the law even being enacted. Only took a year for FLOP to do something. Now maybe they can look into the IG's office and their incompetence in handling the biased political witch hunt which resulted in 10 sacrificial lambs. Maybe they can say something publicly in support of their officers.

12/23/2016 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who ends up suffering because of the incompetence?

The officers, and their families.
The "victims" and their families.
The general public.
All of the above.

12/23/2016 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A wink and a nod and all is good. After all, it is 'The Chicago Way'.

I would think that there would be a ton of botched investigations resulting in being overturned later at the criminal appeal and/or administrative appeal.

12/23/2016 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What happens if there ever is an actual unjustifiable and criminal killing by a rogue officer?

How much evidence will get tossed? How many state witnesses will be impeached?
Will Justice be done? Or will the guilty get off because of the incompetence of the City of Chicago?

12/23/2016 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about having plumbers investigate police?

12/23/2016 02:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Screw it, waive all the requirements. Let felons do it, who cares anymore. Now go get'em kid. I've been using honorable mentions for toilet paper, it's a little rough at first but your rectum will adjust and it saves trees.

12/23/2016 02:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP...looking out for our rights...hilarious. This blog is always good for some laughs.

12/23/2016 02:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These people aren't qualified to investigate how dogshit got on the bottom of their shoes. It's equivalent to having a short order cook build a spacecraft for NASA.

12/23/2016 03:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like a big lawsuit in the near future, for some Officer to get paid!

12/23/2016 04:51:00 AM  
Anonymous About Fuckin' Time said...

Thank you FOP

12/23/2016 06:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was certified after attending a week long class given by the detectives and bosses involved in the Koschman homicide investigation does that count?

12/23/2016 06:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like this is a clout or phone call job, no abilities needed.

12/23/2016 06:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They must have wrote me out after I applied.

31 years on cpd retired detective been off job for 6 years. Worked all violent crimes.

Guess I did not deserve an answer or reply to my application.


You members working the street are going to be under a microscope. And
ask who is running the investigations.

12/23/2016 07:15:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

IPRA investigators can't investigate their way out of a paper bag.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

12/23/2016 07:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've seen these IPRA "investigators" after an officer-involved shooting. They seemed like a couple of sorority sisters on a criminal justice class field trip to see what the police station looks like. They had these confused smiles on their faces as they wandered around trying to figure out what they were supposed to be doing. I'd be shocked if they actually had any training at all.

12/23/2016 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does this mean that watching old re-runs of Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue will not qualify as training films for these minions that rahms calls his finest ??

12/23/2016 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago has an unqualified mayor as well as the superintendent of police!

12/23/2016 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Appointing unqualified people seems to be a democrat thing. Obama surrounded himself with them.
Now President Elect Trump surrounds himself with highly qualified, successful people and democrats whine not enough diversity, they're too rich, they're too white and, although they won't say it, he just might Make America Great Again.
So sick of those crying bedwetters!
Stay safe Officers.

J.J.

12/23/2016 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Qualified...😲You guys are funny!

12/23/2016 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) Older truth in police dispatcher this is the shit police deal with daily, and the dispatchers at 911 have to try to sort this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exf045b0U2Y

Crazy is what we deal with! The dispatcher does a good job trying to talk to this jagoff!

12/23/2016 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Illinois State Training Board will not certify the civilian political hacks working for the City. I think we should leave it along. If one of these goofs makes a finding that you did something wrong, then you have a basis to sue. If the city were to hire ex law enforcement you would get a more professional investigation but you’re up the creek without a paddle if they make a finding against you. It’s a double edged sword.

12/23/2016 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have no doubt that Rahm and the progressives will be in Springfield this year trying to overturn some of these officer protective laws. They will be going after the contract.

12/23/2016 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hold on a second
commanders are hiding full duty officers in caps , front office , sargentnts hiding out in office all day and granny fitz can't find them
this is a joke

12/23/2016 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm Emanuel follows and bends to the laws set by public opinion wherever he can.
This guy is up to his neck in such deep shit and can't figure out who in D.C. can rescue him.
The new DOJ will probably never come back to Chicago unless it involves another City Hall official.
So he's loosing his mind. But that's what BleachBit will do to someone when they spend weeks before a lawsuit going through years of private emails.

Reform Rahm. Please DOJ, he needs it.

12/23/2016 11:21:00 AM  
Blogger Old School said...

Anonymous said...
FOP...looking out for our rights...hilarious. This blog is always good for some laughs.

12/23/2016 02:42:00 AM
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Anonymous said...
Wow we provided FLOP with this information prior to the law even being enacted. Only took a year for FLOP to do something. Now maybe they can look into the IG's office and their incompetence in handling the biased political witch hunt which resulted in 10 sacrificial lambs. Maybe they can say something publicly in support of their officers.

12/23/2016 12:48:00 AM
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About Fuckin' Time said...
Thank you FOP

12/23/2016 06:28:00 AM
??????????

I would rather have incompetent mopes investigating one of my shoots over a retired FBI.

12/23/2016 11:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was at a Police shooting, in which the IPRA mopes showed up 2 hours after the fact, stood around and bitched about the cold, their shoes getting muddy and basically were out of their element. Now they will investigate? Be safe and be extremely fetal.

12/23/2016 01:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think they should send the Lt at area central VC to run it. He may not be qualified to be the police but he may be over qualified to investigate at IPRA.

12/23/2016 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Class Action Lawsuit? Unqualified investigators performing investigations where they are violating Illinois State Law and probably violating Federal Laws..The only way Pricks like Rahm are made to comprehend and understand anything is to hit them where it hurts..In their Checkbook..

12/23/2016 02:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually the shooting specialist are certified as lead homicide investigators. Check your facts.

12/23/2016 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IPRA and soon to be COPA are not sworn law enforcement, it will become a problem as soon as they try to interview a juvenile offender. This statute was knee jerked thru the IDIOTS in Springfield and no thoughts went into it

12/23/2016 04:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only problem with an incompetent asshole doing things for the city, is they gun the gun, take shit to the limit, then figure it out later... In the mean time you can be jammed up for years... But here is where you thank god for punative damages--- if it gets that far. But odds are you break even. Thank god my shit is set, I got a bunch of rental property I inherited.

12/23/2016 05:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Parallel Universe said...

Snowflake preference for new CPD hires.

12/23/2016 07:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A 40 hour course does not qualify you to investigate police shootings you goof.

12/23/2016 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Actually the shooting specialist are certified as lead homicide investigators. Check your facts.

12/23/2016 03:07:00 PM

But they do not comply with the "Law Enforcement" requirement of the law. JV may walk because of this. rahm will look like a fool, but he is ok with that as he knows he can continue to baffle that community and the media with what he believes to be his eloquent witticisms.

12/23/2016 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you complaing about the agency that found like 99% of our shootings justified? Im confused SCC. Do you not like IPRA?

12/23/2016 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In 2012,All Chicago Police Detectives received an exemption
from the State Mandated Certification process, based
on the training they received during Pre Service Detective
classes.

The State Law also requires that the all certified
detectives, acquire 32 hours of additional
training within 3 years of their certification being
issued.

Certain members of IPRA and IAD were in attendence
at the monthly Re Certification classes at the
training academy.

Re-Certification classes were meant to augment
the certification process, not replace it.

It is for this reason the City is in violation of the
State law.

12/23/2016 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I was certified after attending a week long class given by the detectives and bosses involved in the Koschman homicide investigation does that count?

12/23/2016 06:42:00 AM

Best detectives you will ever meet. Fact.

12/23/2016 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats Funny Left Hand Eddie was never qualified to even be a Sergeant or even a real COP , like all the other Clout Commanders also , Even the Fuckin Mayor

12/24/2016 04:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gary Chico's daughter was given one of these investigator positions fresh out of college!!!!!

12/24/2016 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Document the time IPRA arrives , two hours ? they should be there within 1/2 hour

12/24/2016 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mags could be the investigator. He told me he was the best cop CPD ever had.

12/25/2016 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Captain 357 Mags was the best copper ever. Just ask him. He'll tell you.

12/26/2016 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not IPRA fault CPIC doesn't notify them until XO and shooters get their shit straight then notify ipra 2.5 hours later. Can't be where you don't know about it.

12/26/2016 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems the ONE factor in officer involved shootings is that the officer has only mere MINISECONDS to come to the "correct" decisions. Now the "investigators" or more commonly know as the "Community Pacifiers" come along and have the LUXURY of taking their time, days, months sometime even YEARS before they come to the "proper" way the officer should have handled his/her assignment.

12/29/2016 04:06:00 PM  

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