CTA Robberies?
- Armed robbers have targeted passengers this week as they get off trains across the city, police said.
In each incident, the suspect walked up to a person who was getting off a train, showed a weapon and demanded property, according to Chicago Police.
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The suspect was wearing a dark, hooded coat with a tan scarf, faded jeans and tan boots, police said.
And once again, the Slum Times with a completely accurate description of the offender.
You know what might help prevent this? Bigger signs. And more than one cop per twelve miles of track.
You know what might help prevent this? Bigger signs. And more than one cop per twelve miles of track.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
58 Comments:
I'm waiting for a black grandma in her 80's to light up one of these J/O's w/a snubnose .38... Step over the body and leave. Low chance that Grandma's getting charged, and if she does by some miracle, then the Jury's not going to hold her responsible.
And that folks, will be the end of this bullshit life-endangering prohibition on CCW for mass transit. Fucking politicians ought to try taking the CTA sometime w/o the phalanx of bodyguards - bet we'd have concealed carry in 3.2 seconds or less after that
After terrorist attacks or crime sprees, rahm and the liars at 35th Street often talk about counter-terrorism or crime prevention efforts that are both visible and invisible. In many jurisdictions that actually take the threat seriously and haven't squandered all of our financial resources, this is true. In Chicago, it is smoke and mirrors and the general public doesn't have a fucking clue. Consider where we are:
-TRAINING: We don't train. We do not invest in basic, consistent, law enforcement in-service training in any meaningful or consistent way and we never have. It you believe otherwise, you simply don't understand what professional agencies actually do.
-Personnel: We have not had adequate manpower in years and the shell game of more officers 'back on the beat" is such a tragic lie told by rahm and his people that cannot stand up to the barest scrutiny, which the media never does.
-Proactive Policing: The officers we do have, if they have half a brain, have lost their will to conduct proactive police work. As someone who had long prided myself as one of the "working police" it hurts to write these words. However, the simple reality is that rahm has destroyed this police department to save his political ass with his politics of race and he will burn each of us and our families to protect himself.
-Specialized Units: The have eliminated any city-wide street enforcement units. The CTA is a free for all of criminals. The number of officers on the trains and buses are virtually nonexistent. And if you are hoping that guy next to you may be an undercover CPD officer, he isn't. Bye the way, we wouldn't benefit from these specialized units anymore, because we don't have enough officers that are stupid enough to try and conduct aggressive police work (can we still say that phrase?).
-Policies: The new use of force policies and interpretation of the same are self-evident in their intent and proven beyond a question of a doubt in countless recent examples by COPA, Kim and the usual suspects. In short, whether you are right or wrong is irrelevant. If someone complains or there is a hint of bad press, then you are not justified. If you doubt this, then the best of luck to you as you keep bringing in the "heads" that will almost certainly never result in a felony conviction with meaningful punishment (can we still use that word?).
Chicago is the only major city in the nation with our level of violence and there is no quick solution.
Officers, protect yourselves and your fellow officers. Protect and inform your family and friends.
Carry all the time on the CTA, catch me if you can.
Hey tourists, DO NOT risk your life and those of your families in this crime ravaged city.
What will help this? Add a couple of CCW carriers on those trains or buses... Rham does not want the police to touch or dust off any potential voters. Hey Rahm, I gotta say you are the only person I know of who can get elected by being light on crime. Anywhere else you would have been kicked out of office.
If they cared they would lift the ban on CCL license holders carrying on CTA property. The bad guys don't care and neither do the politicians.
"...If they cared..."
Spot on. They don't.
Good citizens, You all be careful on CTA. You want the police when you need them but you don’t want us to be the police when we’re fighting crime.
Conclusion: don’t call 911 or bother me. The 1st & the 16th are far more important than chasing any criminal. Sorry that it has come to these levels but I’m adjusting very very well
HEY...Wait a MIn there...I think I saw this Dude just the other day on the Blue Line. Only diff was this guy was WHITE, had a different colored jacket, hat and boots, Also walked with a Limp..But other than that, It was HIM....
You mean they can't say the offender was Amish??
Failed to give the race of the offender again.......
And after reporting the story, Ch. 9, who FAILED TO GIVE A DESCRIPTION, sex, race, age, etc. played the CPD blame game again (it's the police fault) by closing the story with...'Police would not give a sketch of the subject(s)'
Perhaps City Hall should hire political cartoonist Jack Higgins to respond to every crime and do a cartoon version of the offender. What a joke.
Notice that robber was following the no arms mandate. He was not on train so it was a righteous robbery. By the way was robber man or woman, black, white or brown those important details were missing in article. Nice on point reporting by another intrepid Tribune hack. Why afraid to call a spade a spade?
If your a CCL carrier and obey the CTA riles your a fool. Just make sure you get off transport before shooting said criminal, I the thugs don't obey the rules why should you. Until they have TSA type security for all CTA vehicles the idea of a gun free zone is a complete joke. Someone should sue them after accosted by armed thug on one of their transports. You have a right and duty to defend yourself at all times.
Put some coppers in plain clothes on the trains andjust ride, then alert the uniform guys to grab the bad guys or do it yourzelves.
The command staff of this department is useless. The 1st deputy has the task to run the day to day operations and that includes directing the troops to trouble spots. Every morning except wrecked d's there is a morning meeting attended by every bureau chief. What are they doing getting manicures?
You can kill half of the crime in Chicago by dismantling the Red Line from Roosevelt to 95th St.
Why do all of the pictures taken by the CTA cameras show the offenders "wearing hoodies"?
Maybe some one should ask the Criminal Congressman Bobby Rush? Oh, you can't call him because he didn't pay his phone bill. HA,HA,HA
The TV news had the same description - jeans, hoodie, blah, blah, blah. It's on the CTA - where are the pictures from all the CTA surveillance cameras? At the end of the segment the one reporter says "everyone needs to stay alert". Alert for someone in jeans and a hoodie on the CTA??? Yeah, ok, you f*cking idiots. Watching the news is a complete and total waste of time.
"The suspect was wearing a dark, hooded coat with a tan scarf, faded jeans and tan boots, police said."
I'm in the Upper Peninsula this week. I'll be on the lookout. Hope they didn't change their clothes! Also, might notice, no sex was given. Male or female? Duh!
HAPPY NEW YEAR SCC and ALL.
NOT ILLINOIS. NOT LAW.
Is it the Amish plying their trade on the CTA again?
I love the fact that IL's CCW laws prohibit carrying in precisely the places one is likely to need to carry - trains and busses. I'll bet criminals know this, too. It's basically "CCW for wealthy people only" - because who else can afford a car and ridiculous parking prices in Chicago?
So glad I left that state.
I never understood why the restriction on LEGAL guns in public parks and transit, government owned buildings, etc. My grandkids learned to skate at Millineum Park years ago when they were little. Nothing like skating in the late afternoon and then going to Park Grill for dinner. What a great family outing. I haven't been there since the ban. I carry all the time and just can't accept the fact that I have to leave my firearm in my car in an unsecured parking garage. That seems like inviting someone to steal it. Same goes for Navy Pier. Fond memories, but never again. Unless the ban is lifted. I seem to remember a bumper sticker in the 60s that said something like " when guns are banned, only bad guys will have guns". It was on my fathers car. WAKE UP ILLINOIS POLITIONS !!!!!
No sweat the commander will solve this. She is top notch, just ask the fearless leader Ed.
The sh!theads know that the law-abiding sheep will comply with the CCL restrictions. So they are easy pickings.
Stevie Wonder could see that coming, the Legislature didn't.
Or maybe they did.
Welcome to Chicago! Now gimme your shit.
No sympathy for thieves, get a concealed weapon and when confronted by a thief, leave them crying over their own mess on the sidewalk.
If they don't survive, oh well, it was their decision.
J.J.
These are just lucky the mass transit unit hasnt caught them yet. They are living on borrowed time. I’m sure the CO has put a strategy in place and it will be effective shortly. These guys are toast
I am retired and now live safely in Arizona.
I have valid HR-218 credentials.
Does the CTA gun ban apply to me should I return to Chicago to visit, and ride the CTA?
I am asking for a legal definitive answer and not a personal opinion.
Should something happen I do not want some ASA to land all over me kicking and biting.
I am willing to go by the rules - what are they?
Please send in Capt Chambers to Commander Mass Transit, this never ever happen when he was in the unit!!!
01:51:00 is spot on, great post! A little OT but relevant. I like the part about the “crime prevention that is both visible and invisible.” I’ve heard that lie told at many beat meetings in 012/013. CAPS beat meetings here are full of lies. Citizens ask questions about not seeing a police presence and are told the lie, “just because you don’t see us doesn’t mean we’re not out there.” News Flash: We’re not out there! You’re on your own! Enjoy waiting an hour for a beat car to show up. We’d like to show up quickly but there’s not enough of us and we travel enormous distances to get anywhere. Epic fail, just admit it already. I feel for all the good tax paying people there that were bamboozled.
so if I'm visiting Chicongo it's sounding like I need to stay off the CTA trains. Don't want to get caught aboard a "Prey Train" or a "Prey Car"
Are taxi's any safer ?
What is safest way for a tourist to get around Chicongo ?
Maybe get on the Illiana Expressway & don't get off until in the "iana" part of the expressway ?
If Owe-bama had a son....
More bike lanes will stop this...
I recently rode the train home from Midway Airport to the North side, at midnight. I rode the Orange line to Roosevelt, transferring to the Red line at Roosevelt Rd. It was a quiet ride on the Orange line, but the Red line was completely out-of-control, from Roosevelt all the way out to Roger's Park, where I exited. People were rolling blunts in plain view and smoking them. I counted no less than five persons openly consuming alcoholic beverages on the train car I was on as well; some riders played their cell phone playlists at full volume, without even a consideration as to using headphones so as not to disturb other passengers. No one seemed to fear that a police presence would magically appear on the Red line at any time. It was just unbelievable, so much so, that I feel that the CTA really has no choice but to raise fares to the point whereby they have enough money on hand to create their own CTA police dept., as they used to have many years ago. It is apparent the the CPD's Mass Transit Unit is broken beyond repair, regarding providing any serious coverage of the City's CTA lines to any reasonable degree.
Not surprised at all to read that CTA crime has exploded. There is no deterrent to crime on the city's public transportation systems. The CTA should come up with a plan to create their own PD to rectify this horrible situation as it exists today.
I am retired and now live safely in Arizona.
I have valid HR-218 credentials.
Does the CTA gun ban apply to me should I return to Chicago to visit, and ride the CTA?
I am asking for a legal definitive answer and not a personal opinion.
Should something happen I do not want some ASA to land all over me kicking and biting.
I am willing to go by the rules - what are they?
Yes, by law, firearms are banned from all CTA public conveyances. Having said that, if you value your life, it is not recommended that you ride any of the rail transit lines without a concealed firearm on your person, as you may find the need for it.
"Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6."
Fuck rahm, this is his fault..
Anonymous Retired Youth Officer said...
I am retired and now live safely in Arizona.
I have valid HR-218 credentials.
Does the CTA gun ban apply to me should I return to Chicago to visit, and ride the CTA?
I am asking for a legal definitive answer and not a personal opinion.
Should something happen I do not want some ASA to land all over me kicking and biting.
I am willing to go by the rules - what are they?
12/31/2017 11:28:00 AM
Who cares, if you have to use your firearm, I would just leave. If you stay, you're going to lose your gun or wait forever for this fucked up department to return it. Have a plan to leave, there are no laws that say you have to stay. I've heard all the arguments about leaving or saying on the scene. The only thing I keep hearing, its obstruction of something, but the counter argument is you're the victim. Being the victim of a robbery and you shot the offender, is not obstructing anything. You remained in fear of your life and fled the scene. If you are identified, you believed there were other offenders on the scene or near. If I'm on the scene, you walk brother, professional courteously.
Should something happen I do not want some ASA to land all over me kicking and biting.
I am willing to go by the rules - what are they?
12/31/2017 11:28:00 AM
You just voided your desire by being sincere in your last statement.
Consider reconsidering.......
No sympathy for thieves, get a concealed weapon and when confronted by a thief, leave them crying over their own mess on the sidewalk.
If they don't survive, oh well, it was their decision.
J.J.
12/31/2017 11:05:00 AM
If you do it right, they don't make a sound........and neither do you.........
Put some coppers in plain clothes on the trains andjust ride, then alert the uniform guys to grab the bad guys or do it yourzelves.
12/31/2017 08:10:00 AM
What, and queer the play for our future Bernie Goetz contenders?
Party Pooper.......
Perhaps City Hall should hire political cartoonist Jack Higgins to respond to every crime and do a cartoon version of the offender. What a joke.
12/31/2017 07:44:00 AM
Would be more accurate........
I posted last year it's the hoodies. Nothing good happens when someone is wearing a hoodie. Ban hoodies from all public places and methods of transportation. Problem solved crime will go down. Mandatory 2 years for hoodie wearing.
I haven't been on a CTA vehicle since I was in my teens in high school. Used to caddie at South Shore Country Club and would take the #17 bus from 102nd and Commercial. We'd also cut school occasionally (cause who can learn anything at shitty schools like Bowen High School) and we'd take the CTA train at 95th Street and go downtown to see a movie. Nowadays, I wouldn't be caught dead on a CTA vehicle without my S&W 5904. I'm also retired law enforcement carrying under HR218 but would carry even if I wasn't. Some thug isn't gonna take my property or threaten my life without having the worst day of his life.
How many CTA officers are there? Why don't they step up patrols?
TO: Retired Y/O
The prohibition on carrying CCL on public transportation is prohibited in the Civilian CCL statute, but it is unclear if that applies to HR218 carry.
The State AG has not issued any statement or guidance.
Come on,man. Carry. Be cool. Unless you act stupid no one will know or care.
Better to go home alive and unharmed.
What happened to covert teams and decoys ??? Worked in the 70's and 80's.
Over 30 years
Funny CTA security distributes alerts and their cameras identify the offenders demographics. Media chooses NOT to, the politically incorrect game, never mind public safety. Why bother reporting it, bunch of goofs.
There should be warning labels placed on CTA Trains. Stating " CCL holders, Light the bad guys up".These thug asd punks need to be dealt eith, good people need a break.
Anonymous said...
What happened to covert teams and decoys ??? Worked in the 70's and 80's.
Over 30 years
12/31/2017 10:47:00 PM
Your kidding. Why do that when the tact teams can get nickel bags , a few contact cards and keep their numbers up. When was the last time anyone saw a P.O. riding the train
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Put some coppers in plain clothes on the trains andjust ride, then alert the uniform guys to grab the bad guys or do it yourzelves.
You would have thought the CO of mass transit would have thought of that. Just a hole to hide out in now
I ride all the time. Heavily armed. Retired, not in good standing.
Put some coppers in plain clothes on the trains andjust ride, then alert the uniform guys to grab the bad guys or do it yourzelves.
Brah hahaha! Hate to break it to ya bub, but those days are over
Those old decoy guys were a little too good at stopping crime. They would not last long in this anti-police /PC environment. The could clean up the redline/crime train in a week. Remember, it only gets worse year after year and the good old days will never return
Mass transit is as useless as the white shirts. Commander just killing time!! Po s on fixed post whole tour. No more riding it to hard for white shirts to log you. They may have to leave the office or baby girls crib!! You have mv the superstar and gr running the show!! Both sit in cs office and talk about her nails. I couldnt wait to get out. !!! Maybe kevin chambers could pull this unit back from the grave. But a lots of dead weight needs to be llifted Starting with white shirt spots. No good !!!
Somewhat OT but now some of the signs for the bus stations downtown are showing a poster "100% Boricua 100% Chicago". Nothing personal against Puerto Ricans but tax dollars should not be spent for special recognition for any ethnic group.
Anonymous said...
Mass transit is as useless as the white shirts. Commander just killing time!! Po s on fixed post whole tour. No more riding it to hard for white shirts to log you. They may have to leave the office or baby girls crib!! You have mv the superstar and gr running the show!! Both sit in cs office and talk about her nails. I couldnt wait to get out. !!! Maybe kevin chambers could pull this unit back from the grave. But a lots of dead weight needs to be llifted Starting with white shirt spots. No good !!
The new and future CPD. Might as well get used to it
It used to be that the CTA Red Line (aka Howard line) was safe at all hours north of the Loop. I least it was when I exited/got on at Morse or Loyola.
Now the entire system is infested with lowlifes at all hours, and riders at stops in "good" neighborhoods are being accosted and attached during daytime.
Chicago needs Rudy Giuliani's "quality of life" crime mentality. Kick each and every one of these feral vermin off the trains and buses as soon as a law is violated.
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