Can CFD Confirm?
A couple e-mailers sent this:
- Hey SCC, let your co-workers know that CFD just took delivery of six new ambulances and in each of the ambulances are six cameras - on in the driver compartment to keep an eye on traffic, one in the back to look in on the patient, and the rest pointing outward to view the scene around the ambulance. We know you guys and gals are aware of bus cameras, stoplight cameras, speed cameras and every pedestrian with a camera. Just thought we'd warn you about the ones on our ambos now.
Good to know.
Labels: fire fighters, info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
46 Comments:
......gonna catch some humbuggin' now.
HIPPA applies to the patient compartment if the patient refuses medical treatment and is taken into protective custody by CFD for treatment per fire department policy and the patient then objects to the care based upon religious preference.
This is a hornets nest....Eliminate cameras inside the ambo.
Pay me.
Unbelievable.
They are like the bus cameras not like in car cameras where they upload. They are held on a hard drive for only 48 hours then over written. If you wanna get video, the ambulance has to be taken out of service and the hard drive pulled just like the cta buses. So nobody is just randomly viewing these unless an incident happens which needs to be downloaded. Otherwise the footage is gone in 48 hours.
i can confirm all but the one in the patient compartment. that’s a Hipaa violation. plain and simple. if it is indeed in the back, some
civil rights/hipaa attorneys outta take notice.
What about HIPPA?????? Anyone whit more knowledge of HIPPA please inform the rest of us.
Every action directly by the book regardless of the outcome.
They are taking the human element out.
They want us like robots.
It is a sign of the times. The Brits are far ahead of us in the number of cameras they have keeping tabs on everything in their large cities.
Just what the CPD detectives need more video to pull and review for their cases...smh
They have four outside cameras. They do not continuously record. They have a recording device that triggers if you are involved in an accident that captures approximately 15 seconds before and 15 seconds after. There are no cameras inside the patient compartment. The only time a CFD rig has cameras inside the patient compartments is when a CPD Officer is back there with the body camera activated.
What about HIPPA?????? Anyone whit more knowledge of HIPPA please inform the rest of us.
Not a Hippa violation. Dissemination of the video would make it a violation. The act of recording itself is not, disclosure is.
Spare no expense to trickbag the blues.
It looks like there is no more pinch and tickle time in the back of the ambulances.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Anonymous said...
Just what the CPD detectives need more video to pull and review for their cases...smh
Yeah... cuz CPD detectives do such stellar work they don’t need as much help as they can get...
Not only HIPAA but the Illinois Department of Public Health has been adamantly against video cameras aimed at patients. Perhaps they have a workaround by putting the camera behind the patient so you can't identify their face, but with the number of patients who don't sit still, I'd be surprised if this passed muster - if they even bothered to ask.
Those new ambos wont be on the streets for months!!!
The idiot that runs OEMC communications never buys or orders parts and materials that need to be installed in the ambos to be certified.
This practice or malpractice has been going on since deputy director Dan Casey has been in charge. one of Rahms appointees.........
He is totally and completely incompetent.
Just ask anybody who has to work with or for this goof.
I love it and defense attorneys are starting to hate it. We can adapt and act accordingly. The public under the influence or raised a certain way seems to have trouble not acting the fool. Cameras are showing the public and media what we really deal with on a daily basis.
More big brother BS. I am still not a fan of the body cameras, not because I think cops should get away with doing anything dirty, but because cops act in a way that most humans cannot understand. Take that away from cops and you get robots, or worse, cops that simply do not respond to back others up. Ya they are great when there is a police shooting, but there are very few police shootings.
It's HIPAA, not HIPPA. Federal law. Requires that protected identifiable information (aka "PHI" which includes name, address, drivers license number, phone number, SS#, photo etc) be shared only on a "need to know" basis and patients are informed how the information is used and shared. Ambulance crews already collect and record PHI and this is just one more bit of PHI that ambulance crews will have. That it is destroyed after 48 hours and inaccessible except in extraordinary circumstances makes it a pretty low risk situation with regard to HIPAA violation.
screw the HIPPA laws. this is the city dammit.
Hey SCC CFD medic here there are more than six but none record into the cab or back of the box it is against IDPH policy for us to record patient care unless we can digitally attach the video to the medical record. Which won’t happen for 100 years. Also the cameras don’t constantly record they only record .... at least anymore.... events IE an accidents. So just don’t tackle people into an ambo that don’t deserve it and we will all be fine
Cameras in City Council probably won’t be happening anytime soon
Follow the money on contracts with camera company , GPS companies , Taser
It’s all about contributing to Democratic Party .
It is a sign of the times. The Brits are far ahead of us in the number of cameras they have keeping tabs on everything in their large cities.
7/10/2018 01:16:00 AM
Fuck, now this is some epic subtle ball busting, even if not intended as such.
The fucking British.
"Ay, mate, what's the totes on beheadings this week, eh?"
Great Britain, the oxymoron of nations.
Every action directly by the book regardless of the outcome.
They are taking the human element out.
They want us like robots.
7/10/2018 01:13:00 AM
Oh, RoboCop, oh, RoboCop...
Where for art thou...
RoboCop?
Classic.
Paramedic told me hippa violation. CFd remedy is cover the camera. Don’t assume it though
If you're doing your sworn duty, why should you be "warned" about cameras.
"...and be sure your sin will find you out. '
Numbers 32:23
"Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after"
1 Timothy 5:24
Anonymous said...
They are like the bus cameras not like in car cameras where they upload. They are held on a hard drive for only 48 hours then over written. If you wanna get video, the ambulance has to be taken out of service and the hard drive pulled just like the cta buses. So nobody is just randomly viewing these unless an incident happens which needs to be downloaded. Otherwise the footage is gone in 48 hours.
7/10/2018 12:34:00 AM
Sure it is..............wink, wink
Did FOP ,PBPA obtain a CR # on Superintendent Eddie Johnson . It’s all on video , him breaking the law , taking a political stand while on duty in uniform .
Police officers have been disciplined for less than his actions .
Director Schmitz ,ISP , have your investigators swear out a warrant for Johnson ,Phleger , Jackson Sr . And let them explIn it to a judge .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They are like the bus cameras not like in car cameras where they upload. They are held on a hard drive for only 48 hours then over written. If you wanna get video, the ambulance has to be taken out of service and the hard drive pulled just like the cta buses. So nobody is just randomly viewing these unless an incident happens which needs to be downloaded. Otherwise the footage is gone in 48 hours.
7/10/2018 12:34:00 AM
Always the double standard, but good for the CFD. It appears their bosses look out for them
Nice "heads up".
There are cameras in the hospitals, so why not keep them in the back of the ambulance compartments when patients are being treated. Imagine how much money they will save in lawsuits with the camera footage. They record everything via reports and it is kept confidential because of HIPPA so why not just keep the camera footage confidential. The city is already paying out alot of money from lawsuits for improper medical care. Trust me it is coming!!!!!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/laquanmcdonald/ct-met-laquan-mcdonald-police-conspiracy-media-access-20180710-story.html
Then you read this and wonder am I insane-psychotic-or just plain stupid to do any proactive police work in the jungles of chiraq,as we already know world news we are the most corrupt city-state-county in the entire USA! Will JVD lawyer pull back in the police bosses who took that 6 figure pension and rapidly retired and make them testify in their roll in this boondoggle? Just disgusting to think that the first impulse,on paper was good shoot,then politics became the front runner and stories changed,as the bosses ran for cover!
When the bosses tell you "go get them kid" "we have your back" look behind them for the size of the knives. When your sitting in court,and then at home thinking what can happen with the corruption in the court system it should give you pause to think and observe these fine officers! When you being sued and that fat-ass,boss with the gold star and shiny shoes, is laughing with his feet on the desk,and your in court all alone knowing you could lose everything your family-home-career-and freedom you need to put on that thinking cap and say "not going to be me!" Or will it be you? Your choice!
Just be careful when you call the ambo,they also pick up voice, and they are HD and transmit a very clear picture, these are not for your safety they are for your detriment.
Anonymous said...
Those new ambos wont be on the streets for months!!!
The idiot that runs OEMC communications never buys or orders parts and materials that need to be installed in the ambos to be certified.
This practice or malpractice has been going on since deputy director Dan Casey has been in charge. one of Rahms appointees.........
He is totally and completely incompetent.
Just ask anybody who has to work with or for this goof.
7/10/2018 08:05:00 AM
Months go to 56 Narragansett ambulance 12 there ya go!
"Make sureth not to standeth west of Sheffield on Addison when selling Cubs tickets."
Moyer 18:84
Six cameras. How many mics and Bluetooth pickups?
Siri, anyone?
Those ambos as you call them are recording jack rabbit starts,
stops, engine revs, total speeds, deceleration, lateral sway,
# of times put in reverse, AND top speed in reverse.
Don't even think about doing donuts.
You're also gonna be busted for food & drink inside the ambos,
because they are disease vectors.
No silly string fights, no Reddi-Whip can in your Yetti, and please
don't wipe your ass on TV.
Boys and girls, the time has come to learn an alternate style of person to person discourse. If not, learn to be a mute. That is all.
Not to worry.
Knowing how this city works.
Shit will most likely break down inside 2 weeks.
And city won't ever get it fixed.
Anonymous said...
Those new ambos wont be on the streets for months!!!
The idiot that runs OEMC communications never buys or orders parts and materials that need to be installed in the ambos to be certified.
This practice or malpractice has been going on since deputy director Dan Casey has been in charge. one of Rahms appointees.........
He is totally and completely incompetent.
Just ask anybody who has to work with or for this goof.
7/10/2018 08:05:00 AM
Months go to 56 Narragansett ambulance 12 there ya go!
7/10/2018 05:28:00 PM
Went and looked it is true,and the city is buying dodge ram trucks now! hope a dealer in the city gets the contracts,or will rahm buy from out of state or the suburbs enriching his campaign contributors the Chicago way?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What about HIPPA?????? Anyone whit more knowledge of HIPPA please inform the rest of us.
7/10/2018 12:43:00 AM
More knowledge? Like how to spell it? HIPAA
Have you ever noticed since the body cams how nervous the paramedics and firefighters are when we arrive on scene. I have been asked by several if I was recording. Well now its your turn CFD. Ha Ha
Boys and girls, the time has come to learn an alternate style of person to person discourse. If not, learn to be a mute. That is all.
7/11/2018 01:50:00 AM
Ouyay avehay ayay ointpay.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They do not continuously record. They have a recording device that triggers if you are involved in an accident that captures approximately 15 seconds before and 15 seconds after.
7/10/2018 05:42:00 AM
Shouldn't it just apply the brakes if it knows you're going to be in an accident in the next 15 seconds?
Paramedic told me hippa violation. CFd remedy is cover the camera. Don’t assume it though
7/10/2018 10:41:00 AM
Thanks buddy! You got a bridge to sell me with that BS explanation. Hapaa, hipaa my a** hahahaha multiple reasons being committed across the board
Talked to some CFD guys, said it is true but limited to Ambo 33. Shows driver area and road, sides and back outside view, and one pointed into the patient area showing where the gurney sits but not the sitting wall.
Supposedly activated when the ambulance speeds or stops suddenly, they weren't sure about any other time
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