Preparations
The brass must be finalizing the plan enough to let the media know about it:
- Chicago police officials on Monday said they are prepared to expand shifts and cancel days off for the entire 12,000-strong department if widespread protests occur after a verdict in Officer Jason Van Dyke's murder trial for shooting Laquan McDonald.
Department officials said officers are prepared to have their usual 8 1/2-hour shifts extended to 12 hours a day, while days off would be canceled for other officers.
During an interview with the Chicago Tribune on Monday at police headquarters, Superintendent Eddie Johnson would not specify whether the department would wait until a verdict before instituting the measures.
"We'll monitor the court events, and as we get closer to the end of it, we'll make that decision," Johnson said.
So days off are probably safe this week. Still no word if the brass has fixed the no-overlap hours:
Now we notice that if 2nd Watch is Cancelled RDO, they have to work 3rd Watch hours? Has anyone downtown figured out the Contract violations and how much OT the City is going to have to pay for switching hours past the 2 hour limit?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
159 Comments:
I will not be punching in or out. Also, 1 radio for 4 P.O’S seems like an officer safety issue?
Someone has to keep the Great Unwashed Democrat Welfare Voter in check.
One radio with a half charged battery per four officers. What can go wrong?
Just a heads up about swiping and ot.
Word is that there are versions of the legendary "BIG BIRD-McMahon" watching . Be sure that you don't get jammed up for a few.
And if you ask me, Who Is "BIG BIRD", then you are a troll or Dave "I'm Drunk" Savini!
12,000 Strong ... HAAAAAAAA
SCC: So here is the way the city is going to get out of it. Those start times are within the two hour frame of adjustment before the start of tour. If second watch usually starts at 0530, then 0730 is allowed under the contract. Same goes for all shifts. If they adjust it any further then time worked beyond that is paid at time and a half. So if they pushed it to 0830. It’s an extra half hour added. But the OT is going to be biblical given the entire department will be RDO cancelled and on 12 hour shifts. Using the 9 hour schedule which most PO’s are on....let’s say 1/3 are RDO. The other 2/3 are just extended by 3 hours. Using an average of $40 an hour for this calculation too.
Let’s say there’s 10,000 officers on the job. 3,334 (1/3) will be working RDO cancelled for 12 hours, at time and a half meaning 18 hours. That’s 60,012 hours worked. Multiply that by $40 an hour for a lovely total of about $2.4 million. That’s the cost of your RDO cancelled officers.
For those working normal days. That’s 6,666 coppers. An extra 3 hours at time and a half gives you 4.5 hours extra. Multiply that and you get 29,997 working hours. Times that by $40 an hour and you get about $1.2 million. So each day this goes on is $3.6 million bucks. That’s just using an average of $40 an hour. It’s probbaly much more because of promotional salary, D2 pay, years of service, etc.
Happy to help!
If the city was smart they’d get this up and running on Wednesday so everything is in place and running smooth.
They did figure out the overlap. 0730 and 0830 start for 2w and 1930/2030 for 1w.
They’ll just violate the contract now, get their way and have everyone work whatever they want, and then they’ll pay 6 months (or more)from now. Typical.
According to this Order the 1st Watch will not have thier days off cancelled.Sweet!
Gee, it almost seems like no matter how City Hall tries to cut it up and move pieces around, the same variable becomes undeniably and inarguably self evident.
CPD needs more OFFICERS on the street level!
Whodathunkit?
Also 2nd watch rdos cancelled and work 3rd watch hours only to roll over back to 2nd watch hours? Good luck the medical will be slammed
Seems like on day 5 or 6 the only 2nd watch officers on the ground will be PPO's. As PPO's are such humans who know no feeling of exhaustion and must endure the beatings. BTW, beatings will continue until morale improves.
Oh my god— Jesse “take advantage of his own race to his benefit $$$” Jackson must be opening up another few bank accounts just awaiting money to flow in
Are these preparations for the Van Dyke verdict or is there going to be a birthday party at Go Bananas?
The good news is overtime for all!!! The bad news is, the incident commander is a merit LT. that passed over 3000 spots to make the top of the list.
Are they seriously talking about swiping even though they’re worried about civil unrest? Is that they’re main concern? Swiping is just for show. So what about the guys that are shipped out to some park? Where do you they swipe? Typical CPD .
So 2nd watch.... Upon completion of your 2nd RDO's tour, you're released at 0300 and must be back for your regular scheduled tour at 0730... 4 hours later?
Forget the contract. Safety issue anyone?
I’m sure the department will wait till the last minute and get caught with their pants down and everything will be FUBAR! Something of this magnitude needs to get started early like Wednesday and do a dry run
I'm an ex-fake cop and I am appalled with the dysfunctional
relationship between City Hall and CPD. Back in the day,
there used to be well defined regulations and professional
courtesy. I will never return to the general environment as
it exists today.
Crown hats only, no helmets.
Don’t want to intimidate peaceful crowds of protesters.
It would be nice if he let us know before telling thr media. You're great SCC but shouldn't we be getting info from the department and not from you or the papers?
That change of schedule part of contract does not apply....on your RDO you have no schedule. You can start anytime they want......You will get time and half for each hour worked
Is the National Guard being mobilized? They should be on stand by at armories throughout the city.
Yea, I’m gonna work back to back days off 1600-0300 and then come and work at 0730 -1930 my regurlar watch and tour....go F yourself! Ha ha Dumbasses! You couldn’t pass a test because your dumb! Merits!
So this animal Beats these people so severely they could not even testify and he goes free what a savage;
Charges dropped against man accused in vicious Fright Fest beating
https://abc7chicago.com/charges-dropped-against-man-accused-in-vicious-fright-fest-beating/4330784/
This was definitely a federal crime charge but it did not escalate due to the fact it was black on white no marches no nothing no protest could you imagine if the situation was reversed?
Besides changing 2nd watches hours more then 2 hours how is 2nd watch going to double back from 0300 to 0730. Isn’t it in the context we need 8 hours in between tours ?
what an absolutely disgusting and nihilistic society we now live in...be proactive in the defense of your loved one's and(optionally)property
Can’t wait to have my RDO cancelled on 2nd watch, work 1300-0300 than have to be back at work for regular hours at 0730. Should be interesting but trust me once the OT is over it's time to hit the medical and ride it straight into furlough. A few months off and still getting that OT, it's a win win!!
765B
Anyone know what the CALEA standard for police riots are?
One radio per a four person car? Fuck that I’m bringing my Baofeng.
Wow, looks like they thought of everything. They have it all wrapped up.
Oh no! Big Bird McMahon lives on! He's has to be gone for about 8 years or so? But he still writes for the one bar association. Hi BB!
It would be a shame if there was a sudden outbreak of blue flu when the verdict comes down. I'm sure BLM and ACLU can handle things instead.
Will the current DC of SF be able to handle the aftermath? Or will They have to bring back the DC of McPier again?
No cancelled RDOs for 1st watch? HAHAHA. Yeah, ok. They’ll be changing this im sure to equally spread the fuckery.
Big Bird! Squad, can I get a time check please
Thank god Riccio is in command!
The merits leaked this to get educationed comments about common sense issues that would come up after they release it for reals. This way they won’t have to rescind it multiple times like every other they scrape together. Rumor is the merit bosses all liked how it looked and the ones that know better agree it’s great to make the chief look bad. Not that he needs the extra help.
You would think that your CALEA certification would have included pre planned orders for situations just like this since it’s a common occurrence in this day and age. Guess not!
Some plan...
Protect each other. Nothing more. Remember, they asked for it. These blind mother fuckers have no idea what’s coming. We’re all they’ve got and still day after day anti police beat downs in the media. Call Dave savini when Dude is at your door next week.
It’s funny how this entire situation was created by a set of merit bosses and a politician. Now merit bosses are trying to come up with a plan. The old consent decree needs to include some indictments of the merit bosses and politicians that created the current times in this city. This is 100% all their fault for the cover up. Why are only PO’s being charged? Why is nobody exposing anyone else?
LM's criminal antics are costing the taxpayers a small fortune. The communerty don't pay squat. If the DemocRats would have had him in a secure detention facility, none of this would have transpired. Previous testimony proved he never behaved in lockup either. To make a long story short, he shouldn't have been on the street. Catch and release doesn't work
We have had since 9/11 to fix the exact same problems we are facing today, and didn't. We need the basics cars,radios,radio batteries and manpower. I guess that's too much.
So glad I left that cpd circus. Job sucked but these half ass plans scream officer safety
If you are required to work a 5th and 6th consecutive work day, Ching Ching...
right now is when the FOP should use this crisis as leverage.
I along with Eddie still have more questions then answers....
Preparations for the future Reparations riot...
12,000 officers?.............excuse me? 12,000 officers? (there it goes again.)..........
Bizarro Superman time......
Yea...I work my RDO on 2nd watch on my second day off and return to work at 0530...I dont fuckin think so. Some stupid ass better rethink it. FOP where are you?
Notice how they call them "protests". Can't call them what they really will be....RIOTS!! Just like no MSM has said that Ferguson, Baltimore, etc. were riots. Gotta keep the narrative flowing.
Again, 10B. 'nuff said.
Apparently the "Community" is a community of would be criminals? Democrats?
All 12,000?
Like 3,500 House Mice?
They’ve consulted with Sts.’n Sans doomsday guru Ch-Ch-Ch Cholly Williams it draw up a plan to clean up after the destruction.
Board pp services bumrushed Home Depot and stockpiled all the cheap OSB plywood.
Bet your last dollar the CPS trained community strategist, DrRev Jugghead Special Ed PhD will be out and about with KimmFxxUp commingling with the feral civic destroyers on an Apology Tour again.
Maybe a couple few mayoral candidates and their organ grinders with be out whoopin’ it up too.
The elected Democrats built this up, they need to have their day and there’s nothing we can do about it.
Let it burn - Blinders on - Watch your back - Stay Fetal.
All of this for something thats NOT going to happen. The stupid protestors way back when would all say were going to be there everyday supporting JVD...all that has shown up are a few animals surrounded by city gates. Easily controllable...where are all the big mouths?
So all the kids on mid nights get their RDOs,but the guys and gals with 20, 25, 30 years on get their RDOs cancelled?! UNF'N believable! To make matters worse the people with their RDOs cancelled will have to work 1530 to 0330?! You MF are out of your F'n minds!
Won’t bother me , 10B baby, starts now
Ok before everyone starts bitching about their start times. These are your start times according to contract pages 121 and 136:
1st 2200 hours
2nd 0700 hours
3rd 1530 hours
People will complain and say "but I work a traffic car at 2100 for 1st watch so my start time is 2100".
No, to figure OT pay it goes by contracted start time, so if you usually start at 2100 and they make you come in at 2400 then you get no change of schedule OT. it is within your two hour start time of 2200 hours.
(section 20.7 contract)
Bitch all you want but this is how the contract is wrote, this is how it was done with Cubs OT. File a grievance if you want, wont help.
A timekeeper
Furious...Call OSHA. Make multiple calls, and document faulty equipment.Play the mental health and well being card to the max!
Another point people are going to think because of RDO cancellation, they are owed OT for working 6 days or more. This only applies if you work 6 or 7 days continuously in a pay period as defined by city. A pay period as it applies to OT is defined as Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
So if you worked Tue, Wed, Thur and Fri, and then your Sat & Sun RDOs cancelled then you worked only 5 days in the pay period, yes you worked 6 days continuous but you didn't work 6 days continuous in a pay period so 6th day OT does not apply.
section 20.3 contract
Again a Timekeeper
Just work what they tell you , ole time the e tra $$$ for contract violations .
It will arrive in time for Christmas bills .
To 12:14 am. I'm neither a troll nor am I Dave Savini! Just a citizen who follows this blog daily. I'm guessing this infamous "big bird" is some extremely tall merit with the IQ of a hard boiled egg, correct? And he relished ball busting the working street coppers back in the day? How am I doing so far?
Sergeant Phil Esterhaus: Hey, let's be careful out there.
We have a 12,000 strong department??? Who knew? Not from my point of view, is somebody exaggerating the numbers?
So what will all the "specialized" units be doing while Patrol is thrown to the wolves? Since the city wants to take the "soft" approach and throw the arm pit of the Department out there (Patrol), my guess is the "specialized" units will be sitting around with their turtle gear doing nothing.
Time to loot and restock my liquor cabinet, get me a couple of flatscreens from a big box store, some cellphones and some Nikes.
Yea, looting in the name of social justice.
Word is Kulbida's merit detective pick pissed hot and is out of the training. Earned not given!
OT, Today in: Becker's Hospital Review (free site)
Big article on Stroger and gun shot patients.
Excerpts: Ill. expansion of Medicaid in 2014 now
results in 75% of Stroger's g.s. wound patients being
insured----and their services are largely paid for by Ill.
taxpayers. 10% of g.s wound patients are children,
90% of whom are insured. Stroger has a 6-week
training program for Navy hospital corpsmen.
Dear Obama: that's "Core-Men", not CORPSE-MEN.
We were told at roll call no tasers no body cameras and one radio per 4 man team safety issue If radio goes bad and you get separated from your team ,think the fire department would send in their people into harms way with this kind of planning and lack of equipment , why no body cameras thought it was a state law every encounter with a citizen is suppose to be recorded , what happens if something goes south and it's not on video , also no swiping in or out I must do it for cta/cha/ or any other overtime also having hundreds of pos drive their own vehicles to staging area instead of on buses it's going to be a cluster fuck with cpd command post and other equipment and vehicles in the same lots , lack of leadership is glaring oh well the medical sounds like a nice place to be instead of this cluster that is approaching
Here's how this will play out.....the city will blatantly violate the contract, then key members of Lodge 7 will be offered patronage jobs with the CCSP upon retirement providing an additional pension in only 10 years.
Then the grievance will be settled for pennies on the dollar.
The only variable will be how many jobs are offered. This will be determined by the potential financial impact of the grievance itself...the higher the dollar amount, the more jobs to be doled out.
Look at past board members for proof
Why is Kidney Bean talking to the Sun Times and not his troops?
On a side note ... The day they complete the Obama Library... I'm putting a cross up for every US citizen murder in Chicago during Obamas presidency.
im sure the commanders dollies and the poltical hacks who wotrk at HQW will not be working 12hour days
I swear I read the banner title as Preparation H.
Pinky swear.
I still am rechecking it every so often.
C’mon SCC, it’s an emergency. We’re not paying additional OT for switching watches...right FOP?
Love Rahm and Mes Fenner.
How the hell can they have 2nd and 3rd watch both working rdos until 3am and then 2nd watch has to be back for their Monday at 730.....300 people inside headquarters and not one with common sense or intelligence....its truly embarrassing sometimes to be on this job.
When is the expected verdict day? This seems like a very rushed criminal case, these usually drag on many many months.
Who gives a fuck
Hey, MR. "dry run" why don't you do that, I like most of us enjoy time off with our love ones. This fucken city can burn, I'm just protecting the home front. Most PO's with time on, know for a fact that these vermin will destroy their own ghetto communities "let them burn" who gives a fuck. When the shit really hits the fan, my ass is heading home to protect my own, again fuck the city. As for this particular job, I'll find something else. Always been on the job because of the money and better benefits than the private sector, that being said fuck "To protect and serve", I've always liked "To punish and incarcerate" better. Oh, and FUCK YOU RHAM............
Great way to run a cluster fuck. But when you have all merit running things this is what you get.
The governor of Illinois has to deploy the National Guard in times of peril, if riots and unrest attack the city of Chicago in mass destruction and catastrophe !!!!!!!!!
So as a 2nd watch guy...On my second RDO I work 1500-0300 then come back and work my regular shift starting at 0730 the next day???? FUCK YOU!
Riots during Chicago marathon and Cubs playoffs. 1st no cancalled days off should be able to show the world how organized we are
more like Preparation H than anything else
Just saw Father Fucher on the Ch 7 news regarding police response to VanDyke verdict. This was what he said:
I believe in protests
I believe in civil disobedience, I don't believe in violence. If we become violent then we become just like VanDyke.
So much for media concern about pre-trial publicity and the presumption of innocence.
Jagoff
I have a question for any of you working protest scenes. I just retired and was off street last two years at 311 due to injury.
I noticed that protesters are really in your personal space. In your face. Has CPD changed some G.O. regarding this? I was always taught "Back Sir!" by Tami Anderson and Gus Tearo. You never let someone get that close.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We have a 12,000 strong department??? Who knew? Not from my point of view, is somebody exaggerating the numbers?
9/25/2018 11:18:00 AM
More like 9000 where does the rest of the budgeted money go is the trick question?
Charges dropped against man accused in vicious Fright Fest beating
https://abc7chicago.com/charges-dropped-against-man-accused-in-vicious-fright-fest-beating/4330784/
This was definitely a federal crime charge but it did not escalate due to the fact it was black on white no marches no nothing no protest could you imagine if the situation was reversed?
9/25/2018 06:35:00 AM
This has been going on for decades. You'll never hear hate crimes against white victims reported because the media gives absolutely no coverage to them. Ever heard about the young white couple from TN that were kidnapped, tortured, and murdered after being car-jacked by black offenders? Few people probably ever knew about it. If this was a black couple and offenders were white, there would have been WW3 and tons of news stories. Look up Channon Christian and Christopher Newsome. The details of the crime are absolutely horrendous. Many more examples of lesser magnitude out there, but you still won't see it on the 6 o'clock news.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So this animal Beats these people so severely they could not even testify and he goes free what a savage;
Charges dropped against man accused in vicious Fright Fest beating
https://abc7chicago.com/charges-dropped-against-man-accused-in-vicious-fright-fest-beating/4330784/
This was definitely a federal crime charge but it did not escalate due to the fact it was black on white no marches no nothing no protest could you imagine if the situation was reversed?
9/25/2018 06:35:00 AM
Wait until Kwame Raoul gets in as Attorney General!
No contract violation.....on your RDO you have no schedule....they can start you anytime they want as long as they pay you time and half for hos worked.
People will complain and say "but I work a traffic car at 2100 for 1st watch so my start time is 2100".
No, to figure OT pay it goes by contracted start time, so if you usually start at 2100 and they make you come in at 2400 then you get no change of schedule OT. it is within your two hour start time of 2200 hours.
(section 20.7 contract)
Bitch all you want but this is how the contract is wrote, this is how it was done with Cubs OT. File a grievance if you want, wont help.
A timekeeper
--- Thanks for the insight. You can go back to online shopping and playing on the internet after your 2hr lunch now.
So as a 2nd watch guy...On my second RDO I work 1500-0300 then come back and work my regular shift starting at 0730 the next day???? FUCK YOU!
9/25/2018 04:42:00 PM
Wow you must be one of those stupid old timers that refuses to retire even tho he has his time in grade.2nd watch would work 0730-1930 1st watch 1930-0730 even if they cancelled two rdos you would get the same hours and sleep.Some guys want this instead of having to do activity for VRI and stay in district.Like a forced buyback for time and a half.
Special Ed’s Preparation H
• Hurry and Hustle
• Hide and Hope
• Holla back “ I Apologize” when All Clear
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When is the expected verdict day? This seems like a very rushed criminal case, these usually drag on many many months.
9/25/2018 03:06:00 PM
Defense to close Thursday. No court Friday like last week , judge to work on jury instructions. Then closing arguments Monday and jury instruction. Jury gets the case Tuesday. Verdict Wednesday or Thursday
That’s my bet
9/25/2018 04:19:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The governor of Illinois has to deploy the National Guard in times of peril, if riots and unrest attack the city of Chicago in mass destruction and catastrophe !!!!!!!!!
If he doesn’t or even if he does President Trump can send in federal troops. During the MLK riots President Johnson sent 5,000 troops from the 1st armored and the 5th Infantry Division
Anonymous Anonymous said...
im sure the commanders dollies and the poltical hacks who wotrk at HQW will not be working 12hour days
9/25/2018 01:35:00 PM
If they do it will be at headquarters doing nothing and collecting a nice OT check. They will never hit the streets
Big Bird was no dummy, but he was a smug, arrogant and condescending sob. He and Weiskopf were twins in the tude department. Just a couple of white shirt jags that thought they were superior. Two of many.
We were told at roll call no tasers no body cameras and one radio per 4 man team safety issue If radio goes bad and you get separated from your team ,think the fire department would send in their people into harms way with this kind of planning and lack of equipment , why no body cameras thought it was a state law every encounter with a citizen is suppose to be recorded , what happens if something goes south and it's not on video , also no swiping in or out I must do it for cta/cha/ or any other overtime also having hundreds of pos drive their own vehicles to staging area instead of on buses it's going to be a cluster fuck with cpd command post and other equipment and vehicles in the same lots , lack of leadership is glaring oh well the medical sounds like a nice place to be instead of this cluster that is approaching
Relax, you will get thru this and survive, if it even happens. My buddies and I had dinner the other night and disgusted the good old days of 1967 and 1968. Were still here enjoying retirement and when we were at the MLK riots in 1967 we were in 4 man teams with no radios. Had one in the squad that was it, no tasers or body cameras and we survived. Don’t remember anyone hitting the medical when the rioting started or anyone running home to protect the home front. If the rioting gets to your neighborhood what is one P.O. going to do.
As they say in war, fight the battle on their turf, not at home.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Word is Kulbida's merit detective pick pissed hot and is out of the training. Earned not given!
9/25/2018 12:26:00 PM
No way
Anonymous Anonymous said...
12,000 officers?.............excuse me? 12,000 officers? (there it goes again.)..........
Bizarro Superman time......
9/25/2018 08:59:00 AM
There are 12,606 sworn officers on the job
Didn't rahm say something like he was gonna stick it in the coppers ear? Then gave them a 1% raise and half of their retro pay?
Time to reap what you sow rahm! Your legacy will be the city burning!
ok ok people lets get a grip......the city , the department had 4 years to figure this out...again why didn't they take a look and see how the cubs world series was handled and make the corrections. no they wait until the night before to come up with "the order". it hurry up and wait.. either way the troops will be tired and we will have to work with what we got....or make it up as we go....its the chicago way.
Ammo is life....
Hmmm, as a CCL holder who works on the south side I think I'll carry an extra magazine this week.
Anonymous said...
Won’t bother me , 10B baby, starts now
9/25/2018 09:49:00 AM
our secretary had a 10b, but was allowed to change it so she could sit around in office for 12 hours and check the cash box.
Nothing like a 12 hour notice. Bunch of handjobs!
What would happen if everybody got sick. Blue flu I think they call it. Not a cop. Let the liberal utopia burn.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When is the expected verdict day? This seems like a very rushed criminal case, these usually drag on many many months.
9/25/2018 03:06:00 PM
No. No they don't.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Word is Kulbida's merit detective pick pissed hot and is out of the training. Earned not given!
9/25/2018 12:26:00 PM
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If he pissed hot, he's not just out of training. He's out of a job.
WOW... the city will surely be safe with all 12500 Police officers on the street?
Protect each other. Nothing more. Remember, they asked for it. These blind mother fuckers have no idea what’s coming. We’re all they’ve got and still day after day anti police beat downs in the media. Call Dave savini when Dude is at your door next week.
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Too bad so many coppers won’t adhere to this. Check put some of the comments throughout SCC, a lot of company men
Wish I could come back out of retirement for time and a half to watch this city burn
OT Trailer park sue's side kick Amanda bergquist, had her bond revoked, again. Her mug shot needs to go viral. She loves the fame.
I’m retiring soon and have my own personal radio with a mike attachment for sale...make me an offer.
What do you think Mr. And Mrs. Fenner talk about in bed at night?
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/police-prepared-not-expecting-unrest-van-dyke-verdict
Word is Kulbida's merit detective pick pissed hot and is out of the training. Earned not given!
9/25/2018 12:26:00 PM
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If he pissed hot, he's not just out of training. He's out of a job.
*
Wouldn't count on it as one of the 17's classes RECRUIT(while at the academy) pissed hot and stayed on the job. I'm sure the dick will be just fine, it's all who you know. Accept it and move on.
Yea...I work my RDO on 2nd watch on my second day off and return to work at 0530...I dont fuckin think so. Some stupid ass better rethink it. FOP where are you?
9/25/2018 09:35:00 AM
It’s part of police work stop being a cry baby. You’re not the only one this affects
I will not give any money to the Catholic Church due to Cupich and his ongoing ignorance re Fhaker. Then he gets rid of the Catholic priest who took down a gay flag hung in his church. I hope all you Catholics consider the same.
So as a 2nd watch guy...On my second RDO I work 1500-0300 then come back and work my regular shift starting at 0730 the next day???? FUCK YOU!
9/25/2018 04:42:00 PM
Wow you must be one of those stupid old timers that refuses to retire even tho he has his time in grade.2nd watch would work 0730-1930 1st watch 1930-0730 even if they cancelled two rdos you would get the same hours and sleep.Some guys want this instead of having to do activity for VRI and stay in district.Like a forced buyback for time and a half.
9/25/2018 06:03:00 PM
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Hey nitwit:
Did you READ the order SCC posted a part of????? Apparently not. 2nd w cancelled days off will be 1500-0300. As a FTO once said "Reading is a powerful thing"
Bet you're on some merit list somewhere.... And no, I don't have quite enough time in to retire with my wheel gun.
They’ll just violate the contract now, get their way and have everyone work whatever they want, and then they’ll pay 6 months (or more)from now. Typical.
9/25/2018 01:21:00 AM
Yup. Until the white shirts are held personally liable (like suspension time, or some such) for blatant contract violations this is all that will happen. I was told by a Lt. years ago, I don't really care about your contract that does not bother me or figure into the way I do things. She was a handjob.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wish I could come back out of retirement for time and a half to watch this city burn
9/25/2018 08:52:00 PM
Not satisfied with the entertainment, you wanna be paid for enjoying it?
That's a bit greedy.
What would happen if everybody got sick. Blue flu I think they call it. Not a cop. Let the liberal utopia burn.
9/25/2018 08:42:00 PM
Antifa is a bit concerned that this one is gonna not be the fun they have on the west coast.
Antifa has a shit ton lot more to be concerned about than law enforcement officers.
A fucking shit ton more.
If anything, the CPD being present will prevent these fucked brained fucks from vanishing from all human know!edge, never to be known whence they have gone. Ever.
Word.
Hmmm, as a CCL holder who works on the south side I think I'll carry an extra magazine this week.
9/25/2018 08:10:00 PM
If you are serious, and not delerious, take the revolver. And leave the cannolli.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
WOW... the city will surely be safe with all 12500 Police officers on the street?
Why not , we did it in 1967 and 1968.
our secretary had a 10b, but was allowed to change it so she could sit around in office for 12 hours and check the cash box.
9/25/2018 08:20:00 PM
What else is new? Happens all the time. Rules and GO’s don’t apply to inside people
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
12,000 officers?.............excuse me? 12,000 officers? (there it goes again.)..........
Bizarro Superman time......
9/25/2018 08:59:00 AM
There are 12,606 sworn officers on the job
9/25/2018 06:53:00 PM
Read your pension newsletter. Your sworn representative wrote about it. So he’s lying, but you know
Can someone explain why this site shows 6,200 police officers and now somehow it has risen to 12,000?
http://www.datareportinglab.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/hire-straits_Page_3.jpg
Out of the 12,606 police officers (I don't believe this number), how many are actually working the street, and how many are actually inside somewhere like a house mouse ???????????????????
The governor of Illinois has to deploy the National Guard if Chicago riots and goes up in smoke and burns in mass destruction !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wish I could come back out of retirement for time and a half to watch this city burn
9/25/2018 08:52:00 PM
Enjoy your retirement old top and quit shaking your fists at the sky wishing for anything that would place you back on the job. You’d never last
Body cameras are not state law, they are the department's choice. Isrs are state law now thanks to mc numbnuts.
The new word special Ed uses is 12500 police "employees"
You know who DAT is?
the civilian taking reports at the desk
Those funny ladies at HQ who take up all the handicap parking at HQ
Crossing guards
311 stripped police
Been retired over a year so the question is why would bubblehead have a merit pick he's gone?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wish I could come back out of retirement for time and a half to watch this city burn
9/25/2018 08:52:00 PM
I wouldn’t come back for triple time! I don’t even want to step foot in the city! Miss some people, nothing else. Give it up....
I miss BIG BIRD. Loved how he said I was shopping on duty. Then he went into the same store to go shopping. I didn't buy anything but I'm sure he bought some bird seed!! long live the stupidvisors and the completely merit command staff. Love how they treat the beat cops! Lead by example. Go get ISR's! The lieutenants need activity so they can leave hours early with the sgts. Lets not forget the 6 hour watch secretaries who have too much responsibility! not working the street or the desk is really stressful for them
.....She was a handjob.
9/25/2018 10:30:00 PM
But was she an accomplished, capable, skilled and knowledgable, happy ending assured, kinda handjob?
What do you think Mr. And Mrs. Fenner talk about in bed at night?
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/police-prepared-not-expecting-unrest-van-dyke-verdict
9/25/2018 09:20:00 PM
Stinky feet competition?
Wouldn't count on it as one of the 17's classes RECRUIT(while at the academy) pissed hot and stayed on the job. I'm sure the dick will be just fine, it's all who you know. Accept it and move on.
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The recruit had a back issue and had a prescription for what he pissed hot for
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Body cameras are not state law, they are the department's choice. Isrs are state law now thanks to mc numbnuts.
9/26/2018 05:18:00 AM
Why yes. Yes they are.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs5.asp?ActID=3662&ChapterID=11
Anonymous Anonymous said...
our secretary had a 10b, but was allowed to change it so she could sit around in office for 12 hours and check the cash box.
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So was somebody able to grab the 10B?
Leave all the desk dollies and house mouse scaredy cats at the barn. Much more worried about one of these sausage heads shooting me in the back than mixing it up with dude.
Relax, you will get thru this and survive, if it even happens. My buddies and I had dinner the other night and disgusted the good old days of 1967 and 1968. Were still here enjoying retirement and when we were at the MLK riots in 1967 we were in 4 man teams with no radios. Had one in the squad that was it, no tasers or body cameras and we survived. Don’t remember anyone hitting the medical when the rioting started or anyone running home to protect the home front. If the rioting gets to your neighborhood what is one P.O. going to do.
As they say in war, fight the battle on their turf, not at home.
9/25/2018 06:48:00 PM
That was half a century ago. The world is an entirely different place now. Chicago is its own special little hell in that new world. You got to run around beating the shit out of anyone who got in your way. Things have changed. Even attempting to compare anything happening on this job today to anything from 50+ years ago is idiotic. I'm glad you're enjoying your retirement, but please remember you're retired. You have absolutely no clue what this job is today. None.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can someone explain why this site shows 6,200 police officers and now somehow it has risen to 12,000?
http://www.datareportinglab.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/hire-straits_Page_3.jpg
Pretty simple to explain. The actual number of 12,606 includes ALL sworn officers regardless of rank working for the CPD. Read the article you listed. It’s clear that the figure of 6200 is only the rank and file officers assigned to patrol districts as its stated in the article. It does not include officer in units, detectives and ranks of Sgt, Lt, cap and exempt. Just as an example how many in narcotics, gang enforcement are a few. Add the detective division, not only the detectives but pos and higher ranks. Academy, HR list goes on. How many units in the COD. It adds up
First Thank you to all the hard working CPD officers for their service and sacrifice. Now to the Hair gel Mommas boy 01:26:00. Its cops like you that are part of the problem today. You think you are the only ones who can do the job. This is why I sometimes have no use for cops like you. You guys are under a lot of pressure but guys like bring these problems on yourself. First your comment shows that you have no respect for retired law enforcement officers. This is why I am always watching out for losers like you. Don't worry you won't last long. To the good cops be safe to the losers quit bitchin or just quit. Now go back to your in Mommys house or basement and text your girlfriend. Retired LEO 1999.
Anonymous said...
Hmmm, as a CCL holder who works on the south side I think I'll carry
an extra magazine this week.
9/25/2018 08:10:00 PM
If you are serious, and not delerious, take the revolver.
And leave the cannolli.
9/25/2018 10:53:00 PM
And if you're doubly serious, carry two on the off chance
that shit truly will turn from just plain stinking to sour.
Forget about those hollowpoints too...
Load 'em with +p cartridges with Keith bullets.
If you gotta shoot something/somebody, then
knock a hole clean through it/them.
Usually such something/somebody is accompanied
by sundry other somethings/somebodys so righteously
busting holes through multiple somethings/somebodys is
your manly duty to society and your family.
A damned shame Smith & Wesson didn't
make more of their Model 625-10 and 625-11
Protect Yourselves From THEM.
First and always...
Wow you must be one of those stupid old timers that refuses to retire even tho he has his time in grade.2nd watch would work 0730-1930 1st watch 1930-0730 even if they cancelled two rdos you would get the same hours and sleep.Some guys want this instead of having to do activity for VRI and stay in district.Like a forced buyback for time and a half.
YOUR the fucking idiot...READ the 2nd part of the order which clearly states....RDO: 2/3rd watch 1500-0300hrs. Another moron who cant even read a SIMPLE order written out in English. You must be either a house mouse or someone who is clearly taken care of. Do you even know what your PC and Password is?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can someone explain why this site shows 6,200 police officers and now somehow it has risen to 12,000?
http://www.datareportinglab.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/hire-straits_Page_3.jpg
9/25/2018 11:37:00 PM
Actually, yes I can. If you read the article it clearly stated that this is the number of officers assigned to the DISTRICTS. From there you have to add detectives, Area SAT and Gang teams, as well as every other unit in the department that has police officers assigned to them. From there add the sergeants, lieutenants and captains, then the exempts Because, YES, they are sworn police officers. All of these numbers are available from numerous sources so take a little time to research and learn.
A damned shame Smith & Wesson didn't
make more of their Model 625-10 and 625-11
Protect Yourselves From THEM.
First and always...
9/26/2018 02:40:00 PM
At the risk of drawing wrath here, the 2", more or less, barreled Ruger Service Six has, with a bit of finessing, quite the satisfying effect when properly applied. Plus the +p is barely felt.
That was half a century ago. The world is an entirely different place now. Chicago is its own special little hell in that new world. You got to run around beating the shit out of anyone who got in your way. Things have changed. Even attempting to compare anything happening on this job today to anything from 50+ years ago is idiotic. I'm glad you're enjoying your retirement, but please remember you're retired. You have absolutely no clue what this job is today. None.
If you say so. I know some things don’t change. I know you have better equipment. I know the bosses are still the same. I live in isolation. I read the blog which gives me some idea of what’s happening on the job today. Might even be active in FOP as a retiree, have friends and neighbors who are and were the police, friends who were the police and have children who are on the job and socialize with and maybe even have a kid or two on the job. But as you say, I have no idea
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can someone explain why this site shows 6,200 police officers and now somehow it has risen to 12,000?
http://www.datareportinglab.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/hire-straits_Page_3.jpg
9/25/2018 11:37:00 PM
Actually, yes I can. If you read the article it clearly stated that this is the number of officers assigned to the DISTRICTS. From there you have to add detectives, Area SAT and Gang teams, as well as every other unit in the department that has police officers assigned to them. From there add the sergeants, lieutenants and captains, then the exempts Because, YES, they are sworn police officers. All of these numbers are available from numerous sources so take a little time to research and learn.
Some people can’t comprehend what they read. The article was explicit in where the number of officers came from. But why pay attention when it does fit your false scenario sand it’s easy to just stick with we have 9000 members. Ignore the newsletter from the pension fund written by the sworn elected representative who stated 12,600. Ignore CLEAR. And don’t call the FOP. I’m sure they don’t have any idea and don’t have the number. It’s easy to just say where’s the 12,000 and have someone explain who I’m sure you won’t believe
Are we going to work 12 hours in the district or 12 hours deployed outside the district ???????
That was half a century ago. The world is an entirely different place now. Chicago is its own special little hell in that new world. You got to run around beating the shit out of anyone who got in your way. Things have changed. Even attempting to compare anything happening on this job today to anything from 50+ years ago is idiotic. I'm glad you're enjoying your retirement, but please remember you're retired. You have absolutely no clue what this job is today. None.
I can’t speak for the guy that made the comment, but speaking for myself, a retire you are way off youngster. If anyone is idiotic it’s you. The world is entirely different place now. News flash , I live in that world and have seen the changes. Chicago has its own little hell. I live in that hell and well aware of that. Things have changed. No shit. I must have gone to bed early one night and missed those changes. I can compare the job because I have lived those years I can compare and see the changes in the job because worked for the CpPD when those changes took place and change doesn’t take place overnight. You can’t compare but are trying to say what we did 50 years when you weren’t even born. That idiotic. I wasn’t alive, but I know they were beating people. Then to say a retiree has no idea what the job is today is really idiotic. We are retired, not dead. Attend golf outings and hear from the younger officers about the job today. You do realize we have friends and old partners that are still on the job that we talk to. They tell us what is happening on the job and the changes
My long time partner is still working and we hang out often, and he keeps me informed. I still read the newspapers to keep me informed and have the luxury of watching the Van Dyke trial which gives me an idea of how the job has changed. I’m willing to beat I know more about what’s included in the consent degree than you
Enough , it’s past my bedtime so I’ll have the nurse give me my Geritol and tuck me in They are putting me in the nursing home tomorrow. What year is it, 1980 because I missed all these changes. Is Bilandic still the mayor?
Catch you later, but seriously I don’t envy what you have to deal with today but as I said before we are retired not dead and might be more aware of things than you think
Finally, how can I not be aware of things happening on the job I read SCC which is the best source of infomation
To some retires
Been on the job for 28 yrs. so far and still working a beat car, in a fucked up neighborhood and on 3rd watch. Some of you retiree's talk a lot of shit from back in the day, be quiet and go back to you're golfing or whatever the hell you guys do. These kids today are really going thru a lot of shit that we didn't have to back in the day, why they left their prior jobs for this profession "BEATS THE HELL OUT OF ME" but today vs yesterday in policing, is really all the way around. The bad guys are the good guys and vice versa. I'm planning two more years then I'm leaving this shithole of a city. And believe me I am never even reading this blog ever again. God Bless to all police retired and present..........:)
My comment was in response to his post showing that he clearly has no idea what the job is today or how it differs from 50 years ago.
9/26/2018 10:18:00 PM
You’ll find out when it happens
So if I get off at 3 a.m. from work in my cardio I have to be back at work at 7:30 a.m. 4.5 hours later.
Do any of these plans include supplying food and water to the officers? Any part of it address the health and we'll being of the troops, logistics of getting supplies anywhere? So a bunch of merit hacks with no experience being the police or handling these types of situations are doing the planning? You might as well put the cheating trio in charge and on the front line.
@1127
No they aren’t. Read the statute you referenced in its entirety.
No body cameras are not state law. But, if the department you work for CHOOSES to use body cameras the department must follow the -law enforcement body-worn camera act-. Whoever said it’s the law is wrong.
(50 ILCS 706/10-15)
Sec. 10-15. Applicability. Any law enforcement agency which employs the use of officer-worn body cameras is subject to the provisions of this Act, whether or not the agency receives or has received monies from the Law Enforcement Camera Grant Fund.
(Source: P.A. 99-352, eff. 1-1-16.)
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