Good Lord Bill - Shut Up
- Former Mayor Richard M. Daley’s 22-year aversion to raising property taxes kept them unrealistically low compared to surrounding suburbs and laid the groundwork for Chicago’s $28 billion pension crisis.
Now, the former mayor’s brother is promising more of the same, at least for one year, maybe more, even with a looming, $1 billion spike in pension payments.
The pledge to freeze property taxes is the cornerstone of Bill Daley’s first television commercial of the mayoral campaign.
So one of the cornerstones of his campaign is "kick the can even further down the road" on the face of every single actuarial report saying there is nothing short of extensive property tax hikes....or bankruptcy.
Labels: city politics, elections
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
52 Comments:
His last name is Daley and he was the Chief of Staff for Obama. That makes him the worst candidate
The Daleys think they are a Political Dynasty; and when there were what they used to call White Ethnics running the City, they may have been; but the times and the demographics have changed. "Mumbles" Daley, King LIL Dick II, would NOT have won re-election. The Parking Meter Deal, and his sudden lock-jaw inability to provide testimony in several cases, especially Burge cases, Made "Mumbles" damaged goods. In addition, the fact that the "Colords", as his father used to call Black folks, were asking for more than he was willing to give. Bill like all Daleys, including nephews have done well financially, but he is too arrogant and distant to win enough support. Remember, Bill tested the political water before, threatening to run for Governor, on two prior occasions, only to back out at the last minute. And outside of the 11th and 19th Wards; the Daley legacy and name is virtually TOXIC. After all is said and done, there will be a run-off, and Bill Daley will NOT be one of the two remaining. Baby "G"
Bankruptcy would mean opening up the books. Think city hall would even disclose the real numbers? TIF money? I think they will put slot machines all over and legalize weed first. Would that help? Couldn’t hurt.
Daley should be in jail !
Property taxes in Chicago should likely be raised 50%... So, in the case you want pensions funded; your taxes will be raised. If you don’t want a pension, keep the taxes the same.
Simple calculus and discrete mathematics tell you this.
Just like Detroit Chicago will go bankrupt. The city will have to sell of any remaining assets to first pay of debtors owed money by the city. Then the rest will go to shore up pensions if any money is left. In Detroit pensioners came out in fairly good shape. Chicago might be unable to continue paying pensioners their just due. What a mess.
Another Daley in charge should sink the city and any pension connected with it. For that any democrat will do the same, maybe slower but the result will be the same. A Republican doesn't stand a chance so down the drain you go. You get the government you vote for so blame yourselves after all you voted for them and if you didn't vote you are double guilty.
Another ridiculous Daley typical Chicago politics what did you expect?
No need to worry at all. Mayor Toni Preckwinkle will fix it. Right after she appoints the first ever nonsworn millennial woman to be our next superintendent. Congratulations Superintendent Tina Anderson! Go get fitted for your uniform now
Daley is going to steal your pensions going forward if elected!
He googled " what would little ritchie do " and that was the answer. Don't tell dese folks nuttin, dere happy wit a pot of meat on da stove once a week, jus say it will all work out yous guyz. Never say nuttin about tax, you'll get your balls whacked off.
Brilliant running with the same promises that kept the crooked brother in office for almost 20 years. The Chicago home owners will be all over this guy. They do not care if your pension ever gets funded in fact they hope your fund goes broke.
Promise to freeze before election---raise taxes after election----forgot about by next election. Chicago way.
See above Article.
Bill is pandering to seniors. He will say anything to get elected. He is a crook.
They are not unrealistically low. Why should I pay any more than $4k a year on a parcel that is 110 x 30 for an 1100 sq ft raised ranch in Garfield Ridge, when the public schools my kids would have to go to are terrible? You think I’m sending my kids to Kennedy HS? What exactly am I getting for my taxes? And every Catholic school - the forced upon us, $10k annual tuition minimum ($17k if you want your kids to go to a good school) - is closing. Now that water is metered and charged up the ass, there is no benefit to living in the city. I have one marked squad car in 811 and it can never be found. There are dope deals on my block. Home invasions. Elderly being beaten. Burglaries. Constant car break ins. Nothing but vacant store fronts on Archer Ave - not one decent restaurant and one loan store, ghetto barber shop, tattoo parlor, nails by nay-nay, video gaming parlor, and ghetto cellar store after another are the only business opening. The alderman (Ed Burke) is a crook and nothing is done in my ward. I pay 7 cents for a fucking grocery bag. You think my taxes are unrealistically high? Ok dude.
I’m moving to New Lenox where my taxes will be $7500 a year. Yeah, I know, $3,500 more. And for that I will get a 2400 sq ft house on 1/2 acre where my wife and kids can go anywhere and have 1/100th the concern about whether they’ll be carjacked or held up for their cell phone. Dozens of restaurants and grocery stores. Great public (FREE) schools. Shit, the $180k I’ll save by not paying Catholic school tuition will cover the tax difference in my lifetime. There are more cops than I can count. Real park districts, with real programs, beautiful buildings, and unbelievable equipment. Cheap gas. I can even have a package left on my porch and not worry, instead of paying for a PO Box that closes at 5 and trying to get my shit every Saturday, if the post office hasn’t stolen, lost, or damaged it - a regular occurrence in this neighborhood. I will no longer pay over $100 for a city sticker. I won’t be getting fucked in the ass by the Daley family and their generations of family crooks. My streets will be plowed. English won’t be a second language. Way more than the additional $3,500 is worth.
And guess what? People like me are leaving in droves. So are businesses. Look around you. Look at who is leaving, and who is moving in (enjoy your sanctuary city). 3 familias in one house on my block, with a total of 7 cars. For one house. And the only people left in this neighborhood are going to be Chicago city workers forced to live in this shithole - saying a property tax freeze is “kicking the can.” Well I hope they raise them through the goddam roof, because in a couple months I won’t be paying them and neither will hundreds of other law abiding, police supporting, non-resource draining tax payers. Enjoy your can. It will be Grr8! Ha!
Raising taxes in this city would be par for the course of shitty decisions in the worst run city, in the worst run county, in the worst run state in the nation. Anyone who makes a statement like “Chicago taxes are low compared to surrounding suburbs”, and thinks that’s a problem, is nuts. You get what you pay for in this world.
The fucking Daleys are all alike!! "Whats in it for me?"
This is one of those, feel good, merry fucking christmas stories, isn’t it?
Another lying ShitCago politican!
Sell any property you have in the city now, taxes will soon double if not triple and then the aldercreatures will still find a way to spend it lining their own pocket and pennies on the dollar will go into the pension fund.
As on the previous article about Vanecko, you could use the same title for this one-
"Where did all the money go?"
Years and years of politicians (city and state) not putting in THEIR share of the pension requirement, while we gave EACH and EVERY paycheck, year after year....."where did all that money go?" We took smaller paychecks for 30+ years on the premise and promise of our pension being there for us, since Rostenkowski (thief) took away most of our Social Security benefit.
Yet these same city and state politicians, along with the MSM, keep making US the bad guys.......while they did their pet projects, stole and swindled from the budget for their special "constituents", politically-connected firms, and friends.
BUILD THE DAMN CASINO In Chicago- and PAY THE PENSION......
Indiana -Ohio- all making money off their casinos.....money that rightfully belongs in Chicago, paying back what has literally been stolen from us.
Eddie and his Chief of Staff are on vacation today and Tina Anderson really thinks shes third in command. I can hear the screaming on 4! Now that shes got the green light from Queen Sugar to take over her true colors are showing!
The city will never declare bankruptcy, it will be forced to open its books which in turn will show the billions in TIF monies.
That’s cute...a one year promise of no new taxes.
But every other revenue grab is on the table. Fees are no taxes.
Water, garbage,cell phones, cable, dogs, cat and bike licensing - you name it and there’s going to be an increased fee for it.
ShortShanks 3.0 also wants to pull the CPS open end property tax levy privilege too.
JB NoToilet tax dodger will have to change some regulations to do that.
Then the downstate school districts can get stiffed again as CPS will once again get the lions share of gubmint money Illinois already doesn’t have.
And while he’s at it, JB will likely add an addendum to tax all pensions to fill the void.
ShortShanks 3.0 is full of shit.
CTU just endorsed PugNastyWrinkle too, so much for that CPS tax levy repeal and any increase to their 2% pension contribution.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Property taxes in Chicago should likely be raised 50%... So, in the case you want pensions funded; your taxes will be raised. If you don’t want a pension, keep the taxes the same.
Simple calculus and discrete mathematics tell you this.
Thanks for your simple input! You completely miss all the points. First, pensions were not properly funded and money was squandered. This was done without any workers' consent or desire. Secondly, do you think the politicians will actually use all of the money from a tax increase to fund said pensions? Third and lastly, let's not forget that the entitlement leeches, combined with the cost of violent crime and the never ending pet projects (bike lanes, stadiums, river walks, flyovers, trails, etc.) are the real tax drain that needs to stop.
What about Hope and Change. Oops, no change, more of the same. Next.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Property taxes in Chicago should likely be raised 50%... So, in the case you want pensions funded; your taxes will be raised. If you don’t want a pension, keep the taxes the same.
Simple calculus and discrete mathematics tell you this.
12/07/2018 03:55:00 AM
The reassessment on building went up 120%, total reassessment up 90% and they still want to take my pension. Not simple mathematics to me
Just don't let them change the Illinois constitution's pension protection clause otherwise we're all done for. And this includes all you guys and gals who are retired. Don't let them change nothing.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Daley is going to steal your pensions going forward if elected!
12/07/2018 07:25:00 AM
he will do his best typical criminal daley crimeinc.
This guy needs to shut up watch the video, security chief your responsible moron, listen to interview incredible:
Toni Preckwinkle's former security chief alleges she fired him to save her mayoral campaign
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-preckwinkle-security-payment-interview-20181128-story.html
*Like it selling out your political sponsor,and yet he goes back to cpd, why does Toni not have her guys the sheriffs carting her pathetic ass around? The typical democratic way, this guy should be fired and not allowed back on cpd, but then again he fits in well with the rest of the crew.
If daley and the state change the pension clause a class action lawsuit can be filed. Anyone hired under the old clause should be ok,hopefully!
What part of Garfield Ridge do you live in....i have 5 cops on my block. I know we have some crime, but I have never heard shots fired or seen open drug deals in 20 plus yrs. Restaurants, Peaches and Pears, Harmony, Lindys etc plus a 5 minute drive to Countryside or Lagrange for good shopping...things are not perfect but better than most...
Congratulations Deputy Chief Tina Anderson and Deputy Chief Maurice Clawson. Well deserved.
"Daley Today, Daley Tomorrow, and Daley Forever"
"Bartender"!!! "Give Everyone Here, Another Drink" !!!
Respectfully SCC, I disagree.
Illinois already has the second highest level of property taxes in the nation. Further increases will only push those on fixed incomes out of their homes and increase the exodus from Illinois. This has been well documented over at www.WirePoints.com
Further, the problem has grown so large that NO AMOUNT of tax increases or cost cutting can solve the problem because it is so big. Amazing but true. The problem is not one of taxpayer funding, nor the rate of return on assets invested. The problem is the exponentially growing benefits that have been promised (increased over 1000% in the last 10 years), by politicians like Boss Madigan in exchange for votes and campaign contributions.
See e.g.
http://www.wirepoints.com/illinois-official-pension-shortfall-worsens-to-134-billion-despite-strong-markets-increased-contributions/
and
http://www.wirepoints.com/pensions/
What needs to be done is:
1. Amend the Illinois Constitution to allow pension benefits to be renegotiated.
2. Allow Illinois municipalities to file for bankruptcy.
Raise whatever other taxes you like; just stay away from the property tax.
Change is the only constant in life. Nothing lasts forever just look at Sears, who would have thought.
Ohio and Indiana are not stealing from you. It is your own home grown Democratic politicians. Rule number one of the Chicago Way states that all democrats get first dibs on all money.
they are already spoon feeding stories to the papers about changing the constitution. make the idiot voters think it was their idea. socialism at work. media does the dirty work and whips up the citizens in a frenzy about our gold plated pensions lol then the pols respond and do the will of the peoples and leave us holding the bag. i never liked daley i always knew he would fuck us in the end. and rahm? fucking anti christ lol.
More importantly, who is going to host the Oscars this year? The liberal Hollywood elite picked a black man (Kevin Hart), probably to placate the black community because they don't nominate enough black movies, actors, directors.... for academy awards. THEN, their liberal choice (Kevin Hart) pissed off all the LBGT community by expressing his 1st amendment guaranteed opinion that he was not a fan of gays and hoped his son would not be gay. OMG! The liberals are eating each other. WHAT GROUPS ASS AM I SUPPOSED TO KISS THIS WEEK? Don't worry bitches! You'll ALL be kissing Donald Trump's ass in January of 2021. Unless you decide to move to Canada like Rosie O'Donnell and Whoopi Goldberg. Oh wait! That didn't happen like they said it would. You know why? Because Canada has effing immigration laws like the Donald is implementing here! MAGA you effing communist bitches!
What part of Garfield Ridge do you live in....i have 5 cops on my block. I know we have some crime, but I have never heard shots fired or seen open drug deals in 20 plus yrs. Restaurants, Peaches and Pears, Harmony, Lindys etc plus a 5 minute drive to Countryside or Lagrange for good shopping...things are not perfect but better than most...
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This guy! I really hope you’re being facetious...if you think Lindy’s, P&P and Harmony are good restaurants, than I have some swamp land in Summit to sell you. If you’re getting to Countryside in five minutes, then you must be one of those Garfield Ridge NASCAR drivers that zoom down the streets with no regard for anyone, but themselves.
Anonymous said...
They are not unrealistically low. Why should I pay any more than $4k a year on a parcel that is 110 x 30 for an 1100 sq ft raised ranch in Garfield Ridge, when the public schools my kids would have to go to are terrible? You think I’m sending my kids to Kennedy HS? What exactly am I getting for my taxes? And every Catholic school - the forced upon us, $10k annual tuition minimum ($17k if you want your kids to go to a good school) - is closing. Now that water is metered and charged up the ass, there is no benefit to living in the city. I have one marked squad car in 811 and it can never be found. There are dope deals on my block. Home invasions. Elderly being beaten. Burglaries. Constant car break ins. Nothing but vacant store fronts on Archer Ave - not one decent restaurant and one loan store, ghetto barber shop, tattoo parlor, nails by nay-nay, video gaming parlor, and ghetto cellar store after another are the only business opening. The alderman (Ed Burke) is a crook and nothing is done in my ward. I pay 7 cents for a fucking grocery bag. You think my taxes are unrealistically high? Ok dude.
(What block do you on?)
I’m moving to New Lenox where my taxes will be $7500 a year. Yeah, I know, $3,500 more. And for that I will get a 2400 sq ft house on 1/2 acre where my wife and kids can go anywhere and have 1/100th the concern about whether they’ll be carjacked or held up for their cell phone. Dozens of restaurants and grocery stores. Great public (FREE) schools. Shit, the $180k I’ll save by not paying Catholic school tuition will cover the tax difference in my lifetime. There are more cops than I can count. Real park districts, with real programs, beautiful buildings, and unbelievable equipment. Cheap gas. I can even have a package left on my porch and not worry, instead of paying for a PO Box that closes at 5 and trying to get my shit every Saturday, if the post office hasn’t stolen, lost, or damaged it - a regular occurrence in this neighborhood. I will no longer pay over $100 for a city sticker. I won’t be getting fucked in the ass by the Daley family and their generations of family crooks. My streets will be plowed. English won’t be a second language. Way more than the additional $3,500 is worth.
(Ahh new Lenox nice send your kids to the schools great more dope over there than here)
And guess what? People like me are leaving in droves. So are businesses. Look around you. Look at who is leaving, and who is moving in (enjoy your sanctuary city). 3 familias in one house on my block, with a total of 7 cars. For one house. And the only people left in this neighborhood are going to be Chicago city workers forced to live in this shithole - saying a property tax freeze is “kicking the can.” Well I hope they raise them through the goddam roof, because in a couple months I won’t be paying them and neither will hundreds of other law abiding, police supporting, non-resource draining tax payers. Enjoy your can. It will be Grr8! Ha!
(Move quick maybe new Lenox like Naperville will be filling up with section 8)
Raising taxes in this city would be par for the course of shitty decisions in the worst run city, in the worst run county, in the worst run state in the nation. Anyone who makes a statement like “Chicago taxes are low compared to surrounding suburbs”, and thinks that’s a problem, is nuts. You get what you pay for in this world.
12/07/2018 08:43:00 AM
Now please take your pills and get to bed with your fantastic anger issues!
Bill Daley is full of shit.
One major factor Real Estate taxes have been inadequate is because a billion dollars of Real Estates that would have been collected were siphoned off to TIF districting, the Chicago political slush fund.
Not a copper
Please just go away fuck face! Don’t need another Daley.
Talk to the guys who were on Lil Richie’s detail, they are more than willing to tell you what Bill Daley is all about. They had to valet for him and his family too.
What part of Garfield Ridge do you live in....i have 5 cops on my block. I know we have some crime, but I have never heard shots fired or seen open drug deals in 20 plus yrs. Restaurants, Peaches and Pears, Harmony, Lindys etc plus a 5 minute drive to Countryside or Lagrange for good shopping...things are not perfect but better than most...
I now live in this neighborhood since 2010. I remember living in the Belmont cragin /025 area by the brickyard mall in the early 90s. It was a great working class neighborhood filled with Italian Americans, Polish Americans, and other Europeans. It took a decade for my old neighborhood to turn into a complete shithole. Since moving to the clearing/ Garfield ridge area I have seen the same exact trend. Neighborhood is changing in the same way. It’s just taking a bit longer because see in the 90s, there were other good neighborhoods to move into. Now, not so much. This area will be a complete shithole in the next 10 years. And by the way, if you built an addition onto your home you will lose that money. You will never get it back. Also, it doesn’t take 5 mins to get to Lagrange even if you live on 57th and neva.
OK, right, let's jack up every homeowner's property taxes but before that, lets take a bunch of park district property and give it to a privately run Obama center, and charge them $10 for just under a century. We can stick the same taxpayers with all the infrastructure costs to put utilities in this facility, and just so it looks like there's actually something inside, we can put a branch of the Chicago Public library in there, even though all the other branches of the library in the City have restricted hours. Where the fuck do these people come up with this shit?
If this facility was going to contain Obama memorabilia or records of his accomplishments as president, you'd have copies of his 2 books and the one his lady just published. What a boondoggle this is. And meanwhile Rome is burning while Nero fiddles.
Didn't they just complete roads and infrastructure along the extended Lake Shore Drive? Why not put the structure there?
In 2016 the people said "No More Bushes and No More Clintons."
In 2019 the people need to say "No More Daleys."
Sorry, the 5 minutes was a figure of speech...more like 15 minutes, but still close...still not a bad neighborhood
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sorry, the 5 minutes was a figure of speech...more like 15 minutes, but still close...still not a bad neighborhood
12/09/2018 07:41:00 PM
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Thanks for proving the point. As was stated, move to the suburbs if you want nice things. In Chicago you’re paying taxes to live somewhere where you must drive elsewhere to get anything of quality - good public schools, stores, land, housing, and restaurants. Or stay and keep the fine dining going at peaches and pears. The complimentary stale 1 inch kolacky really makes it worth keeping a yard you can spit across, as well as looking out your kitchen window into your neighbor’s like the Cramdens.
Oh, and you don’t have to pay a 9% amusement tax to play your PlayStation in the suburbs. You can play your PlayStation all goddam day if you want. Purchase whatever subscription you want - no money goes toward the suburb. Chicago is taxing the video games you play in YOUR house. Yeah, it’s not a bad neighborhood at all! Lol. Your comparisons and exaggerations (drive 5 minutes? It takes 10 minutes to get from Central to Harlem) are hysterical.
Hey man let me know how much of that 9% amusement tax on games you play at home is going toward your pension.
Give me some examples of what makes it a bad neighborhood...how many shootings last yr from central to harlem 51st to 59th st...how many armed robberies..rapes..homicides...hardly any...and when compared to most parts of the city very low...not saying that garfield.ridge does not have any problems, but small compared to most
Hey ass, I can't move to the suburbs if I am on the job..all I was saying is if I have to live in the city it is not that bad and one of the better neighborhoods...dont be so negative.in life
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Give me some examples of what makes it a bad neighborhood...how many shootings last yr from central to harlem 51st to 59th st...how many armed robberies..rapes..homicides...hardly any...and when compared to most parts of the city very low...not saying that garfield.ridge does not have any problems, but small compared to most
12/11/2018 12:21:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey ass, I can't move to the suburbs if I am on the job..all I was saying is if I have to live in the city it is not that bad and one of the better neighborhoods...dont be so negative.in life
Have to agree with you. There still are plenty of nice neighborhoods in the city. I’m retired, am financially well off and still choose to live in Chicago, along with about 5,000 or more retired police and fire
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