SDSC Rumor
Re3member when we used to keep gang files? The roster of members, relatives, girlfriends, ex-girlfriends....all the better to locate said banger when he was named in a shooting. Some Districts even kept sweaters and colors confiscated from ne'er-do-wells.
Then the ACLU decided keeping open ended files was some kind of Rights violations, even though many in the gangs took oaths to bang until they died.
Now that everything is recorded on cameras, the specter of "files" is rearing its ugly head again:
Then the ACLU decided keeping open ended files was some kind of Rights violations, even though many in the gangs took oaths to bang until they died.
Now that everything is recorded on cameras, the specter of "files" is rearing its ugly head again:
- Anonymous said...
Here’s a good one. And it’s not a rumor. The IG’s office is asking each Commander for the name of their DIO and SDSC coordinator so they can interview them as to how they get their information on gang members, how they document it and how they compile “files” on gang members at the district level. ATTENTION DIO’s....contact FOP immediately and DO NOT answer ANY questions regarding any of that stuff. The IG IS NOT YOUR FRIEND!!! One wrong answer and you will find yourself named as a 1st Amendment violator and the Dept will throw you to the wolves.
Once again, a program that started out as a pretty good idea for gathering intel, suddenly has a high probability of biting people in the ass. As we recall, it was staffed by "volunteers," with no formal training, almost no written directives, and little oversight except by a sergeant and lieutenant who couldn't make the day bid.
Labels: department issues, rumors
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
57 Comments:
The most efficient will be found the most guilty.
Never volunteer.
Where was the ACLU, or anybody for that matter, when the department was keeping complaint information on officers beyond the length of time contractually agreed upon?
Do officers have any legal recourse against the department if caught up in a situation that resulted from CPD's failure to destroy outdated files?
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I don’t know of anyone that has any idea what the DIO does, much less uses any of their information. That includes SDSC people who just monitor cameras and call out Shotspotter events.
Chicago has been a gangster town since at least the 19teens.
In other news...
Think all the new gang profile stuff is being done by the civilian analyst from U of C the city spent millions on. They tend to work out of the sdcs rooms. P/Os are not dumb enough to do extra crap like this.
The DIO of 025 better be careful. Escamerit has already pissed off the Inspector General with his CAPS chauffeuring and babysitting program. Escamerit is constantly calling the DIO asking for gang info because he almost has a heart attack whenever there is a gang shooting. Paranoid and desperate to stop retaliation attacks, you know the Commander doesn't care about how information is gathered or kept. As he has been known to scream at Sgts in the past, "Stop the shootings!!!!!"
Tell them fo fuck off. DIOs dont make policy. Exemps make policy. Tell them to talk to them.
What legal capacity does the ACLU actually have?
Chicago doesn’t have the gang structure of the 80’s or 90’s so it doesn’t even matter anymore. Today every block has bag of dicks that came up with what they thought was a clever name while smoking weed in an abando garage when they were 12. Just keep tabs on “associates” and “family”, remember their world is very small.
The collective balloon knots of hardcharging superstars and asskissing sycophants everywhere just slammed closed.
I hear both Peg Leg Cronie and Blondie (you youngsters need to consult with your elders for the 411 on them) are being courted by the ACLU to be their experts in an attempt to show that the intel gathering done by today’s Skinny Jeans Police is skewed big time.
Pop another tin of Jiffy Pop, it’s gonna get interesting.
SDSC doesn't create these files, they only access them.
Just do what the FBI, the Justice Department and the Mueller investigation do. Don't cooperate, don't hand over requested documents and if you do redact everything. And scrub your cell phones just like Mueller did on FBI's Strzok's & Page's phones. So if the highest ranking law enforcement agencies can do this so can you. It works for them.
Your answer is that you get it from already established city maintained gang database along with any other reasonable intelligence that may conform it. As a DIO or SDSC member you do not enter people’s gang affiliation unless it is related to you from a reliable source I.E. another police officer or the person himself or that he is already documented in the city established gang system which is created by officers inputting gang information from arrests and gang contracts on the street. That is what you should say and how you should say it. It is created by officers inputting info and MAINTAINED BY OTHER CITY RESOURSES OUT OF YOUR CONTROL.
After 911, NYC decided to cooperate with all Govt. agencies,
but NEVER to be totally dependent upon them as the final word.
They used their own people to go into foreign countries for intel.
A lot of the times the guys from NYC overturned rocks before
the big, official alphabet agencies pulled in the info.
NYC sleeps better at night because they have fellow New Yorkers
actively progecting their own.
I hope those who compiled those gang files violating civil rights don’t rule 14 themselves, remember all pc# and information is tracked. So don’t say you didn’t search and print the information for a folder if you did.
Many of the gangs run counter intel on us.....what about our rights ?
This job sucks.
Once again the ACLU steps in and helps criminals evade the law. As far as I can see they have done more to help destroy the USA than the communists. We are being destroyed from within and I am willing to bet they know exactly what they are doing. Senator Joseph McCarthy may have made some mistakes but was a lot closer to the truth than he was given credit for. The ACLU is not your friend and not a friend of the USA.
Is this the same Inspector General who believes that Nakia Fenner scored in the top ten of the lieutenant's test on her own? If you are naive enough to believe that, you must have voted for Hillary.
Quick D.I.Os. When asked to turn over your Blackberry, remove and then "lose" the memory card then smash the Blackberry to smithereens. Then bleach bit and scrub your hard drives then hammer them into dust. Lose or delete your e-mails-like the 33,000 of them just like Hillary's team did. Remember Hillary's team took such actions to destroy incriminating evidence and there was no formal accusations of obstructing justice or interfering with an investigation. And Crooked Hillary and her scoundrels got away scot-free!
Or do the former F.B.I. Director James Comey "I don't know" or "I don't recall" or "I don't remember" comedy routine 245 times under oath to a Congressional panel. The leader of the "premier" law enforcement agency suffers from amnesia but retained enough memory for his book or more accurately a propaganda dossier entitled "A Higher Loyalty to Hillary: Truth, Lies and Leadership.
When in Rome do as the democrat Romans do (and continue to do).
Wait a minute I thought the inspector general the politically connected organization cannot investigate Chicago police officers I thought we had an internal affairs division that does a terrible job anyway only going after the not politically connected officers!
Officers FYI, you have IG CPD officers among you, they came from the IG and became CPD. Not your friend.
But it's ok for Alderman Arena and his office side piece to keep detailed files and databases on citizens who question his ethics. The IG refuses to do anything about it.
This " information " is confidential, law enforcement sensitive, and for police use only. It is not distributed to the general public. Intelligence collected by officers working in the field to be used by officers in future investigations as well as for officer safety. Would the IG care to tell us everyone who is currently under investigation by their office and why.
The IG is your friend as much as the media is our friend.
The Department wanted this, so get the information from the Department. Leave us the fuck alone.
Quite a few of them will be safe because they can say “I don’t know” and be telling the truth. They were placed there as a favor or didn’t want to work the street and have no idea on what’s going. No experience, knowledge of how to do the job
Joe Ferguson is a total piece of shit. He purposely and knowingly discriminated against white people. I don’t know if he does it on his own or told to by Rahm. Nevertheless, he does it and often. Maybe the USD will finally look into his discriminatory practices.
Looks like that 4 hour tour ghost payroll spot isn’t looking so great anymore One of the biggest waste of manpower ever created. Tact has a secretary that could do that simple task. Or any of the 40-50 cops in the office. In the private sector they would never have a waste of a position like that
This position is ridiculous anyway. The guys in 020, 016 and 017 Probably get their work done in the first 30 mins Monday morning. Then it’s run errands, surf the net and watch tv the rest of the week. Waste
ACLU is a communist organization, check their history invented to take down laws to the USA years ago.
I have heard a rumor that the ACLU was investigating how the CPD uses blue cards as the new contact cards. A lot of comments on here are saying the ACLU is the one looking into the DIO's. Is it them or the IG? I don't know much about either organization because I don't do jack shit. Maybe the ACLU and IG are in cahoots and the ACLU is using them as their cat's paw?
Perhaps someone should finally tell the American Civil Liberities Union to go get fucked.
My 20 year old CR file still exist and you can look it up online.
Why would a criminal have more rights than me. The file must last forever because we may have secret JON BURGES all over the city and the only way to keep track of all these evil DICK's is to keep all files forever.
Plus it is funded by tax monies from the state those pesky FOIA request need to be maintained.
Can they also request confidential CR numbers too??? Why not if the case is closed like cheating scandals or Sex harassment beefs.
The criminals are free to expunge the arrest if they AINT too busy.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Quick D.I.Os. When asked to turn over your Blackberry, remove and then "lose" the memory card then smash the Blackberry to smithereens. Then bleach bit and scrub your hard drives then hammer them into dust. Lose or delete your e-mails-like the 33,000 of them just like Hillary's team did. Remember Hillary's team took such actions to destroy incriminating evidence and there was no formal accusations of obstructing justice or interfering with an investigation. And Crooked Hillary and her scoundrels got away scot-free!
Or do the former F.B.I. Director James Comey "I don't know" or "I don't recall" or "I don't remember" comedy routine 245 times under oath to a Congressional panel. The leader of the "premier" law enforcement agency suffers from amnesia but retained enough memory for his book or more accurately a propaganda dossier entitled "A Higher Loyalty to Hillary: Truth, Lies and Leadership.
When in Rome do as the democrat Romans do (and continue to do).
12/31/2018 06:12:00 AM
That’s a good plan, if only you have a Robert Mueller to cover your tracks, and a spineless Congress, like Hillary does.
Kinda like IAD going around and trolling police officer wives,husband and kids for info in OPEN SOURCE DATA (FB instagram you tube and linkdn.
IAD forgets sometimes that the garbage cans behind the house is also open source.
Patrol officers dont release documents.
Officers are not allowed to discuss investigation tactics either.
The cool part with the inspector general is they will tell you you cannot tape the interview but they can arrest you.
Leading to this
720 ILCS 5/14-1, citizens now have the right to record any police officer without their consent.
If they aint the police they can't ask question? All that mumbo jumbo about cooperating runs into a buzz saw with your own lawyer.
Oh it’s just a simple little research survey.
Soft snowflakies and social acknowledging community organizers dressed up like CAPS police are willing to go along with it.
There are more non-government organizations being allowed by Special Ed 35th Street Civilian Command Inc. to come in and examine Our procedures without any questions or impediment. Trust building y’all.
Relax, the ACLU is only looking for data and will not use anything that’s said, seen or found against any 4x Merit Commander.
Has there ever a time these folks have been allowed into the offices of the Chicago-Cook County elected to query illicit patterns and practices? FBI raids don’t count.
Loose lips sink ships.
But if you want to maintain that daylight inside M-F DOG/SSH schedule....
First off, the SDSC room personnel retrieve info from Department databases and Intel bulletins, etc. The IG should ask those responsible for inputting and maintaining said databases/bulletins. As far as how or from who the DIO receives info is a question they, themselves should answer. Just more reasons to answer your calls and do what is required. That is all, carry on.
In the 3rd we have a midget shot spotty on midnights who give wrong direction and address to the officers on the street. Sometimes even a mile off. But she knows her gangs and wanted folks/peoples. She'll say things like so be on the look out. I count the tiles on the floor when she talks or time how long I can hold my breath. Next time maybe I'll clip my toe nails. It's really about who you do, not what you do.
blogger IFIYGD said...
"The collective balloon knots of hardcharging superstars and asskissing sycophants everywhere just slammed closed.
I hear both Peg Leg Cronie and Blondie (you youngsters need to consult with your elders for the 411 on them) are being courted by the ACLU to be their experts in an attempt to show that the intel gathering done by today’s Skinny Jeans Police is skewed big time.
Pop another tin of Jiffy Pop, it’s gonna get interesting."
12/31/2018 01:25:00 AM
Hooooooo...
Oh yeah. Those narrow superstar asses WILL be made to sit in
the hard, uncomfortable and splintery chair of inquiry.
We wonder if the "Go Get'Em!" bossholes who slapped this
shit together will be made to have a seat too?
Coming through the door with a couple bottles of Tripel Karmeliet
to go with that Jiffy-Pop...
Joey Ferguson got a monumental budget increase, more staff,a nice raise but couldn’t figure out lying lieutenants scandal,with evidence on a silver platter but now he is doing this, overstepped his so called authorities?
720 ILCS 5/14-1, citizens now have the right to record any police officer without their consent.
Except when they being lawfully detained, in custody, or obstructing/interfering in lawful investigation etc
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Quite a few of them will be safe because they can say “I don’t know” and be telling the truth. They were placed there as a favor or didn’t want to work the street and have no idea on what’s going. No experience, knowledge of how to do the job
12/31/2018 10:14:00 AM
Like the IOD abuser in 012? Six months off for pinching a finger in a folding room divider in the community room. Returns to her do-nothing job in CAPS and then gets moved to be one of two DIOs on 3rd Watch.
The SDSC rooms are a waste of manpower . Period . Too many people in there . Put them on the street .
The IG probably already ran stats on users pulling data from the various applications like (Chris, clear, wire, Caboodle, SSL, crystal report tables, Jaspersoft, Accurint, etc.) They also found out that many DIO’s and SDSC officers have backups and officers that cover for them when on furlough have comp time, sick time, etc. The IG can request email history, your contact and group lists and what Intel was sent out and to what address. The department can remotely pull the logs from the printers and everything and anything that is copied or scanned. The printer has a hard drive that can be removed by IT. The department knows which user or computer sent copied or scanned each document. Everything is monitored— even those of you sworn and civilian members that spend the day shopping on duty, watch YouTube, log into your email accounts and social media. The department knows who the hard chargers are that spend their day compiling unapproved Intel on crime, gang members, etc. in your district or unit and what you are sending out. Every keystroke and every password is stored and monitored. Sharing passwords and comparing A&A’s is an easy win for any half-wit working for the ACLU or IG and this can can place you in big trouble. The backup DIO, SDSC or compstat guy or gal better contact FOP or your attorney.
For you clout heavy guys and gals—when it comes to pension and job security, bosses will always cover their ass first. If you were not smart enough to cover your ass, it is too late. Also, don’t forget they can compare the A&A’s to anything and everything you do. If you are working on your RDO and sending or pulling data, this is a huge red flag. Timekeepers might also be on the radar. Whatever you DO NOT try to bullshit your way out of an interview with the IG, department, or FEDs/ACLU, if you are called everyone under the sun probably has everything they need to take you down. Don’t answer questions without an attorney. Breaking a rule violation is one thing, civil rights violations and sending out sensitive data is serious shit — just advice from an old timer that still wears a tinfoil hat.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Quite a few of them will be safe because they can say “I don’t know” and be telling the truth. They were placed there as a favor or didn’t want to work the street and have no idea on what’s going. No experience, knowledge of how to do the job
12/31/2018 10:14:00 AM
Like the IOD abuser in 012? Six months off for pinching a finger in a folding room divider in the community room. Returns to her do-nothing job in CAPS and then gets moved to be one of two DIOs on 3rd Watch.
1/01/2019 02:41:00 AM
Exactly and there are a lot more. Nothing will change, everyone including the bosses know about it and does nothing
Ferguson was told first by IPRA, then COPA to investigate davina Ward and Eddie Welch on a different matter. He blatantly refused to do anything as he is protected by 9.5 because his job is to coverup, conceal and obstruct justice at Rahm’s behest. He has refused to investigate many many types of corruption in Rahm’s administration and did nothing. He needs to go to jail for obstruction of justice.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wait a minute I thought the inspector general the politically connected organization cannot investigate Chicago police officers I thought we had an internal affairs division that does a terrible job anyway only going after the not politically connected officers!
12/31/2018 07:36:00 AM
If you honestly believe this you are one dumb mother f--ker!
there is more intel on officers than bangers.
The SDSC room has gotten more officers in trouble than you can imagine. Respond slowly and carefully.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Looks like that 4 hour tour ghost payroll spot isn’t looking so great anymore One of the biggest waste of manpower ever created. Tact has a secretary that could do that simple task. Or any of the 40-50 cops in the office. In the private sector they would never have a waste of a position like that
12/31/2018 10:56:00 AM
Lazy desk bid officers should be doing it.
IG can’t find anything better to investigate than that. How about Investigating IAD and the handling of investigations.
Anonymous said...
In the 3rd we have a midget shot spotty on midnights who give wrong direction and address to the officers on the street. Sometimes even a mile off. But she knows her gangs and wanted folks/peoples. She'll say things like so be on the look out. I count the tiles on the floor when she talks or time how long I can hold my breath. Next time maybe I'll clip my toe nails. It's really about who you do, not what you do.
12/31/2018 04:25:00 PM
Careful there you rebel. Her and her desk dolly husband will be bosses one day. Leave them alone or they will come out on the street and really show you some crazy sh!t.
violation of rights to keep gang member lists....
not a violation of rights to keep forever the lists of background check/ legal purchase lists of weapons for law abiding people.
This is all because a fair number of police agencies that kept such lists did so with virtually no requirement that the people listed on them actually had anything to do with gangs. It turned out that a lot of people on such lists had absolutely nothing to do with gangs. If you are going to keep such lists it would seem to be important that they be at least reasonably accurate. More cases of coppers being Their Own Worst Enemy.
IG should spend more time looking at Copa and their unethical,biased, way of investigating people who are actually trying to do some good in the world. Funny how after all the name changes OPS, IPRA, COPA its still the same staff
Hey “I Team” are you reading this? FOIA Copa employment records and look into their back ground, experience, education, oh might as well throw in IG complaints against them
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