Payday Coming?
This has a big lawsuit written all over it. Who will be the lucky copper who files and wins?
- COPA has directed the investigations into Chicago Police Officers off duty weapons purchases. The order that they are using was written by Debra Kirby requires ANY weapon owned by an officer to be registered. The only people in the entire world that would have to register these weapons are Chicago Police Officers.
So members of BOC have been directed by the Chief, who is married to Blago’s sister, to utilize the Illinois State Police F-Tip system to check officers off duty weapons purchases for COPA. This system is for criminal investigations ONLY, not for administrative investigations. This directive violates the MOU between the city and the state. Keep this in mind when you are summoned to make a statement, leave and ensure you have an attorney.
Oh and by the way the F-Tip system is not being purged and has every firearms purchase EVER made by citizens and officers in the history of the State of Illinois with an FOID card. This is a firearm registry being keep by the State of Illinois, which is expressly prohibited by federal law.
Kirby, the former Internal Affairs Division Chief, has been gone for years, but before that she was a name on the fringes of numerous scandals, most of which seemed to conveniently die (or at least be delayed for years) at IAD's Confidential Section until such time as the politically connected reached retirement age. Do a quick search and see how many times her name appears in media reports of lawsuits. We heard stories that she took a job in Ireland to avoid a blizzard of subpoenas. It's an eyeopener.
So it wouldn't be surprising that COPA is using something authored by her to abuse the system and trick bag Chicago cops who are the only people in Illinois required to register a gun any more. Some commentators have suggested this is part of COPA doing search warrants, which is going to cost taxpayers millions at some point.
So it wouldn't be surprising that COPA is using something authored by her to abuse the system and trick bag Chicago cops who are the only people in Illinois required to register a gun any more. Some commentators have suggested this is part of COPA doing search warrants, which is going to cost taxpayers millions at some point.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
97 Comments:
Fuck the sanctuary city.
It's now the sanctuary STATE.
Our rules, house rules, no rules.
You can't touch this.
Go to Indiana.
You're buying everything there now anyway.
If it ain't one thing it's another thing. Can't wait to retire from this shit hole!
Cost to taxpayers isn't important so long it leads to Communism. Federal, State and Municipal debts will never be paid, how could they possibly ever pay them off? What economic miracle would need to take place? Find diamonds under Wacker Drive? Oil off Navy Pier? We will sooner see flying monkeys come out of the 5th floor.
Communism is a form of Government where the people at the top live like Royalty while the peons fight over scraps. Sounds familiar, no?
I got two 30-06 hunting rifles I purchased 7 years ago.
I thought only duty related weapons had to be registered?
The S&W 500 I recently purchased for a steal of $500 has to be registered too?
Why? I am never going to carry it nor my hunting rifles to work.
What business is it to the city?
I got my uncle lawyer on call.
Can someone pls access this GO and posted it, I am trying to enjoy the last week of my furlough.
Thank You.
These people are disgusting, law breaking dogs. Every time I think about the politics in this city and the lawlessness, I get mad enough to want to move.
You don’t have to register what you don’t keep in this shithole.
If this outrageous story is true I’m guessing all the city attorneys weren’t aware of it but if they are now I’m sure they will say “HELL NO!” This could cost the city enormous amounts of money. Stupid
Ah, the fruit of the poison tree...
Take a big byte, ya fuckers.
I hope the suits are filed against all individuals involved, from COPA to mayor. Bankrupt their asses, get judgements against them so they’ll never have anything.
I’m sure there’s some criminal offenses involved..
Get the NRA involved, they have lots of lawyers that would love to bury ol bug eyes. Quit talking about this crap and start acting.
No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners' Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established.
Hey copa, come through my door. I have an unregistered (administrative rule not subject to a criminal charge) firearm just waiting to give you. I have a valid foid card in which I used to legally purchase several weapons in full compliance with state and federal laws therefore no CRIMINAL charge would apply thus negating the legality of any type of warrant which would then make your entry into my residence an illegal home invasion. I will protect my life and property with lethal force.
Hopefully the staff inside of IA has gotten better. Historically, they’ve been scamming cheating arrogant henchmen (and women, let’s not leave you ladies out to quash a “me too!” Beef) who have axed the non-clouted while protecting the connected, the bed-mates, the side pieces, and the clouted from the grim reaper that is “accountability”. Not to mention, once one has worked there, they become aware of the many skeletons in the closets of lord knows how many important people, bosses, families of said important people and bosses, etc. Look at the launch pad career promotions to exempt ranks and rewards reaped by those who went along with the program, some almost immediately paid on delivery of task. Ms. Mayor, if you want true accountability in this department, start here. Staff your IAD with truly honest, exemplary individuals who can’t be bought, and won’t go for the dangling carrot. The issue is, the way the structure is set up, it’s the dangling carrot or the guillotine because everyone answers to the bosses who answer to the supe who answers to the mayor who answers to the machine and the political winds of the day. The solution? A task force of honest blue shirts, some detectives maybe, and feds who answer to NO ONE connected to the city and it’s festering politics who actually have the power to come in and jam those up administratively and criminally who are much needed of a good jamming. Then and only then, will we have an agency that isn’t a complete sick joke. You want accountability and to change this department for the better, start there. Sorry, rant over. Best of luck to the winners of this lawsuit. Also, a solution similar to the one above would eliminate the need for COPA. The hammer falls on all equally deserving, especially when your investigative agency actually follows the law. And those investigations which are conducted without bias and are based in integrity actually stick, to make an attempt to quell the SJW’S, the grievance mongers, store front revruns, Jamal Green’s, etc. I say attempt because and reasonable person knows that these individuals are too ignorant to ever be satisfied.
Deb kirby, what a beauty. Mention john k's name to her and a little vein in her neck would start throbbing. Just another in a long line of political hacks who dragged this department deeper into the mud.
Class Action! IL State Rifle Association has been notified!
CPD officers=2nd class citizens
Food for thought, an F-Tip trace will only show the origin of the gun (the first place the gun was sold from) and who it was sold to. If you purchased a handgun from a private seller it most likely won’t show up on an F-Tip trace.
The consequence of gun registration can be read in Stephan Halbrook's Gun Control in the Third Reich. The Weimar Republic kept a list of gun purchasers with a strict prohibition for public use. Ah, but the Nazis put it to use by gathering guns from Jews and opponents. Remember Truman's adage: "the only history that's new to you is the history you don't know."
Deb kirby, what a beauty. Mention john k's name to her and a little vein in her neck would start throbbing. Just another in a long line of political hacks who dragged this department deeper into the mud.
9/30/2019 03:06:00 AM
A most arrogant,nasty bitch, but a favorite of Phil Cline. Pray she stays in Ireland.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If this outrageous story is true I’m guessing all the city attorneys weren’t aware of it but if they are now I’m sure they will say “HELL NO!” This could cost the city enormous amounts of money. Stupid
9/30/2019 12:44:00 AM
City Attorneys are probably NOT aware. You would be surprised at how many "smart" "leaders" never consult them prior to stupid stunts. Happens all the time. Grab the popcorn. This is a true freedom litmus test designed by the sjws/socialists/communists/true fascists. Stand your ground.
The NRA was notified when the order came out. They sounded interested, but then blew it off. This was right after the Heller victory.
Seems to be driven by the attorney in the Joshua Beal (Mt Greenwood funeral altercation) death suit. A lot of comments from him about Bill being shot by the officer (ruled justifiable) about the officers weapon being unregistered
First day of swiping in-out.
Rest In Peace
"The Early Duck"
1855-2019
Don’t register any secondary weapons. I have only one duty and one off duty weapon registered. That’s all folks!
Got to contact “Gun Owners of America” they love to sue and has success in the past
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The consequence of gun registration can be read in Stephan Halbrook's Gun Control in the Third Reich. The Weimar Republic kept a list of gun purchasers with a strict prohibition for public use. Ah, but the Nazis put it to use by gathering guns from Jews and opponents. Remember Truman's adage: "the only history that's new to you is the history you don't know."
>>>>>
If you only knew the irony of the situation; this time the shoe is on the other foot. Who do you think is behind the push to disarm you now? Certainly not Germans as they have been weakened beyond repair.
Weimar was in reaction to the degeneracy of the day, like we have coming out of Hollywood. A reaction to the usury, like we have today.
OT check out big johnsons fancy new charts
https://home.chicagopolice.org/statistics-data/data-dashboards/use-of-force-dashboard/
Kirby was a real pos Never did a days police work in her life
My wife is an Indiana resident, we don't buy shit in Illinois anymore.
Sounds like a 4th amendment violation.
A possible Civil rights violation.
I'll be notifying the Illinois State Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, and Gun Owners of America. They have the lawyers to investigate the F-Tip system.
Right, if this is true and does happen then its time for a coup d'etat.
WGN is talking about Civil War on the morning news. Robin Baumgarten almost made me spit my coffee when she mentioned a bloody Civil War. I guess they want to round-up 400 million heaters before things go sideways. Media loves gun confiscation so it looks like they will push a war, then beg the UN to step-in and do the disarming.
I hope they start the gun confiscations in 011.
That order can be rescinded. The department forgets that it’s employees are citizens too, protected by the constitution
Anonymous said...
Food for thought, an F-Tip trace will only show the origin of the gun (the first place the gun was sold from) and who it was sold to. If you purchased a handgun from a private seller it most likely won’t show up on an F-Tip trace.
9/30/2019 04:53:00 AM
Wrong, if you do a transfer from a private party to yourself you are supposed to go through an FFL, if you do that the transfer is reported to ATF. Now keep in mind that most of us never do that but some do. Either way this is beyond wrong.
Little Bird just told me that Illinois will get gun roster like California that defines "acceptable" firearms allowed by Citizens, along with a slew of other restrictions. The Law is to include a LEO carve-out for selling off-roster guns $$$wohoo$$$ so that is why the push to know what we own before the Law is implemented.
Check out CalGuns for the prices they pay. Some are triple retail. Might want to fill the safe with off-roster pieces before it kicks in. Some guys are making more on the side than the Dept pays....
Debra Kirby works for Hillary Heintze.
Debra Kirby works for Hillard Heintze.
Illinois' FTIP was given the tip o' the hat by the feds, and transactions do not have to be destroyed, as it predates the NICS.
Just for the record.
Also, an FTIP call does not mean that a firearm was transferred, only that a firearm transfer got the green light by ISP and whether or not that approval included a handgun.
Just for the record.
In order for the overlords to know what you bought, they have to contact the FFL. If they can.
This is the kind of sensible gun control the Socialist/Liberal/Progressive Democrats think is a good first step for the rest of us.
Molon Labe.
Who is the chief of OCD ?
Hey CPD coppers, come to Arizona to buy your guns! You may find the freedom refreshing and want to stay. We need more exiles who come from commi cities to tell the idiots here what this progressive push toward socialism will eventually lead to. WWG1WGA!
2121 shot so far, with 396 dead here.......
BY THE COMMUNITY
So COPA is spending it's very valuable time trying to jam up bullshitt against those that serve and protect?
Clearly a 4th amendment violation -we aren't above the law but we sure as hell ain't below it!
Does that include my silencer. I have a federal tax stamp for it. Do I have to indicate which firearms have threaded barrels? Good luck COPA.
There was an article in the Sun Times over the weekend talking about this.
I think this is directed at those who are misusing the ability of police to buy firearms without the waiting period. It is supposed to only be used for duty weapons but that restriction is commonly abused.
Liberalism = Fascism
Note to COPA and the city, the lawyers at the ISRA and NRA are way better then the FOPs.
This is Democrat Illinois, they can do whatever they want and the courts will agree.
Is IL-FTIP linked to Fed NICS?
We can assume with a high likelihood that IL has recently updated most or all of their FOID, CC records system and is only now keeping very good track of firearm purchases.
The only way these rules effects us is the amount of time it could take renew our credentials.
If the violent feral had any brains they’d be laughing their asses off.
Polices is pure evil racist by nature, especially those with police and military family backgrounds past or present.
Fundamental Transformation wide and far.
Confiscation is coming in one form or another and it’s the Democrats desire.
Stock up.
I seriously doubt ISP will go gestapo door to door especially for any active LEO.
This is all opportunity for LightLoafer Groot’s COPA to administer some disciplinary payback.
JB Toilette and Kwanmmie will agree.
Good thing all my o-d equipments will be discovered lost/misplaced on the same day they come for them.
Molon labe.
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson
To go with 09/30/2019 @ 0458 hrs:
https://babylonbee.com/news/beto-cites-nazi-firing-squads-as-reason-for-private-gun-ban
What’s FOP’s position on this? Might be a good time for a candidate for president to file a lawsuit and get in front of this. Good way to get his name out there
There are already states that register guns; see NY. It's not illegal. It's only illegal for the federal government to do it.
The consequence of gun registration can be read in Stephan Halbrook's Gun Control in the Third Reich.
9/30/2019 04:58:00 AM
Yes! This is a great book. Halbrook received the David & Goliath Award from Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership award for his writings. My Rabbi suggested I read his books.
Shalom!
Anonymous said...
These people are disgusting, law breaking dogs. Every time I think about the politics in this city and the lawlessness, I get mad enough to want to move.
9/30/2019 12:29:00 AM
Yes many of the same people who agreed in a contract to destroy all internal complaint records that were not sustained after 5 years. Actually, they destroyed nothing and the result is every complaint ever filed against you, even if you are now retired, are out there for the public to read. I was on that website and the owners insinuate plenty; that if things were investigated honestly, you would have been found sustained and suspended or fired, that you have a few more complaints then the average so you must be a bad cop and those are just for starters. Do not trust this corrupt government.
nonymous said...
Go to Indiana.
You're buying everything there now anyway.
9/30/2019 12:13:00 AM
cannot buy handguns out of state unless it is transferred to a a FFL holder in Illinois.
So the only people in the entire State of Illinois who are required to register their guns are Chicago Police Officers. Not even the civilian members of the Department have to register any of their guns, only sworn members. So some civilian with no firearms training and probably can't pass the test to get on the Department can buy whatever he or she wants and it is not a big deal.
Absolutely ABSURD!!!
If this doesn't prove that shitcago is at war with it's own Police Department, nothing does.
Kirby! What a piece of crap she was. I remember her calling 019 to have her boyfriend given time due so they could go booze together! And of course the spineless watch commanders would give in!
That sucks on the registry. All FOPA 86 got us was a machine gun ban and a few cursory ATF limits.
In terms of the copper DB, someone needs to take that to court. It's odd usually the POs get a carve out so they'll back crap gun control laws or at least their unions will.
Good luck, Anyone suing would still have to convince a cRook county or federal jury of the evil wrought upon them.
I know this isn’t popular, but anyone that took this job within the last 10-12 years gets no sympathy for the pounding dealt
them by the city.
It’s kinda like Vietnam, Chicago has to be destroyed to save it.
Do not worry. The F.O.P. has your back.
Come search the home I have listed as my address, I don't live there lol
The aclu allied liberal democrat progressive Alinskyites
at city hall are using copa as cover to disarm The Police
because they're very concerned about a hard-core, anti-democrat
resistance movement coalescing around a core of bitterly disaffected,
well armed, current and retired Police here in the crown jewel of
Progressivism known as Chicago.
That is the ONE and ONLY reason why copa illegally weaponized
the F-TIP trace engine to turn it into an administrative
jackpot...
Onerous "Conditions of Employment" seemingly dictate that when
copa blows down the doors of Chicago Police Officers, those
Officers are compelled to refrain from "resisting," or else...
We foresee copa "investigators" rightfully laid the fuck out
like King Oscar sardines for illegal forcible entry to
Police Officers homes in search of "unauthorized" weapons.
Meanwhile?
City Hall has no answer with which to solve the
politically ticklish question of how to keep guns
(and other weapons) out of the hands of Dude Inc.
But...
Picking this fight with The Police is easy
because NOBODY ELSE in this God-Forsaken
Potemkin Village built on a cemetery dug
out of a swamp, is more or less compelled
to abide by rules of some sort, other than
The Police.
Give them NOTHING but the resistance they
so richly deserve.
Be informed... Lawyer up... Punch back...
Hate "THEM" as much as they hate YOU and YOURS
and still sleep well at night just like they do...
Strive for their utter ruin and destruction
more than they strive for yours.
Heh... It's only fair...
No?
FOP should have contracted with a P.I. firm to gather
career-destroying, life-ruining counter agit-prop on hateful
anti-Police, anti-public peace/public safety knee-walking
surrenderists at city hall and local media editorial boards
and they should have done it YEARS AGO...
Or is it "unfair" that Policemen actually fight back?
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Sure sounds like a slam dunk to me.
My message is that we'll be watching you.
This is all wrong.
I shouldn't be posting here.
I should be back on the Beat, on the other side of the District.
Yet you all come to us, the police, for hope (and change).
How dare you!
You have stolen my career dreams and my promotional promises with your empty words and 21st Century Task Farce.
And yet I'm one of the lucky ones.
People are suffering.
People are dying.
Entire communities are collapsing.
And now, you come for my off duty purchases.
How dare you!
Very doubtful of this rumor. Not an attorney in their right mind would allow something as outrageous as this to be allowed. Lightfoot can’t afford the city to lose more money.
Anonymous said...
Go to Indiana.
You're buying everything there now anyway.
9/30/2019 12:13:00 AM
You need an Illinois FOID card to purchase a firearm in Indiana if you are an Illinois resident. At least you do at Cabelas in Hammond. I’ve purchased a couple guns from Cabelas in Hammond, IN the last few years. It was explained to me by the people at Cabelas that Illinois asked Indiana to require Illinois residents provide their FOID and Indiana agreed for some reason. Tell them you live in Indiana? That won’t work when you give them your drivers license for the background check.
What’s next? A census?
My question is this why is nothing being done about it by fop? duped by a person who claims to have ur back to get elected and turns out to be another loser just like the past presidents. Will someone with balls ever get elected and fight for the people in blue or just elect another piece of shit who does nothing
Wow, just wow.
I'm a cop in another state who reads this blog for amusement purposes. Sorry you guys and gals at CPD have to put up with crap like this. Where I come from, it's none of the bosses' business what kind of guns you legally purchase on your own time and dime.
Johnson if you read this, rescind that order or you’ll lose half your department and your swat team
Food for thought, an F-Tip trace will only show the origin of the gun (the first place the gun was sold from) and who it was sold to. If you purchased a handgun from a private seller it most likely won’t show up on an F-Tip trace.
9/30/2019 04:53:00 AM
Wrong, if you do a transfer from a private party to yourself you are supposed to go through an FFL, if you do that the transfer is reported to ATF. Now keep in mind that most of us never do that but some do. Either way this is beyond wrong.
9/30/2019 08:33:00 AM
https://lawcenter.giffords.org/private-sales-in-illinois/
Any unlicensed seller of a firearm who seeks to transfer a firearm to any unlicensed purchaser must, prior to transfer, contact the Department of State Police (DSP) with the transferee’s Firearm Owner’s Identification (FOID) Card number to determine the validity of the transferee’s FOID Card. The seller must await approval by DSP before transferring the firearm. Approvals issued by DSP for the purchase of a firearm are valid for 30 days.
There are certain exceptions to this requirement, including: 1) transfers as a bona fide gift to the transferor’s husband, wife, son, daughter, stepson, stepdaughter, father, mother, stepfather, stepmother, brother, sister, nephew, niece, uncle, aunt, grandfather, grandmother, grandson, granddaughter, father-in-law, mother-in-law, son-in-law, or daughter-in-law;3 and 2) transfers that occur at a federally licensed firearm dealer’s place of business, if the licensed dealer conducts a background check on the prospective recipient of the firearm and follows all other applicable federal, state, and local laws as if he or she were the transferor of the firearm.
An unlicensed seller or transferor who complies with the law by determining the validity of a purchaser’s FOID card, will not be liable for damages in any civil action arising from the use or misuse by the transferee of the firearm transferred, except for willful or wanton conduct on the part of the seller or transferor.
Any person who transfers a firearm must keep records of all such transfers for a period of 10 years.
The NRA was notified when the order came out. They sounded interested, but then blew it off. This was right after the Heller victory.
9/30/2019 06:23:00 AM
LMAO. NRA is a joke. Controlled opposition is how it is done these days. Set up a Paper Tiger that collects dues but produces nothing.
Am I right FOP? Double-Dip?
All new CPD/CFD hires are required to list their firearms' makes/models/serial numbers in a questionnaire when they begin the processing for an academy class. The questionnaire explicitly states that any omissions will be met with termination of employment and a monetary fine per omission. They tried this with me a few months ago when I got called for the next CFD class.
Would this be something the gun rights groups would be interested in? I'm available for a class action!
Anonymous said...
Go to Indiana.
You're buying everything there now anyway.
9/30/2019 12:13:00 AM
cannot buy handguns out of state unless it is transferred to a a FFL holder in Illinois.
9/30/2019 12:02:00 PM
You can buy a gun at an Indiana sporting goods or gun store. You don’t need the gun sent to a FFL in Illinois. You need your FOID as an Illinois resident. You pay for your background check and have to go through the waiting period like in Illinois, then you pick it up where you bought it in Indiana.
FOP keeps sleeping through their alarm clock I see, well maybe fat boy should put down the Taylor St beefs and hold a press conference.
Anonymous said...
Go to Indiana.
You're buying everything there now anyway.
9/30/2019 12:13:00 AM
cannot buy handguns out of state unless it is transferred to a a FFL holder in Illinois.
9/30/2019 12:02:00 PM
You can buy a gun at an Indiana sporting goods or gun store. You don’t need the gun sent to a FFL in Illinois. You need your FOID as an Illinois resident. You pay for your background check and have to go through the waiting period like in Illinois, then you pick it up where you bought it in Indiana.
9/30/2019 07:52:00 PM
Wrong on so many levels Bub. I can buy a handgun from Cabela or Field and Stream or what ever FFL dealer in Indiana or Michigan or Texas or where ever the hell I can get what I want for Cheap plus shipping. But they ship it to a FFL Dealer in Illinois, the Illinois Dealer does the BATF 4473 and you wait the 3 days. Then you drive to the Illinois FFL Dealer and pick up the hand gun.
I know this for a fact because I did this. And I asked the question about just driving the 15 minutes over the Indiana border to pick it up and the store declined quite quickly. It is Required to purchase a handgun from outside of your Home State by Federal Interstate Commerce Law that this be done this way. Its just that up until about the 60's no one really gave a shit about where you bought your handguns or rifles. Criminals Fucked that up. Now the BATF pays attention to everyone and not just once you get on their radar.
I can buy a long arm in Indiana from an FFL Dealer and pick it up in Indiana from the same store dealer. But that's IT.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wow, just wow.
I'm a cop in another state who reads this blog for amusement purposes. Sorry you guys and gals at CPD have to put up with crap like this. Where I come from, it's none of the bosses' business what kind of guns you legally purchase on your own time and dime.
9/30/2019 05:18:00 PM
I agree. Some of these anonymous cops should get together, get a lawyer and don't wait for FLOP.
The nifty thing is this would be covered under the State of Illinois Whistleblowers Protection Act.
After retirement, I moved to a low crime red state. Now I can buy whatever I want in accordance with my 2nd Amendment rights, and I don't even have to ask a democrat if it is ok! So weird, living like a real American...
Not having weapons registered to the city is an MCC charge. Anovable at best. Just “store them at a friend/family members house”
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does that include my silencer. I have a federal tax stamp for it. Do I have to indicate which firearms have threaded barrels? Good luck COPA.
9/30/2019 09:42:00 AM
I hope this is a joke.
Silencers are illegal in IL even if you have your tax stamp.
Why go through all this drama in the first place? The City has gone nutz.
9/30/2019 12:02:00 PM
You can buy a gun at an Indiana sporting goods or gun store. You don’t need the gun sent to a FFL in Illinois. You need your FOID as an Illinois resident. You pay for your background check and have to go through the waiting period like in Illinois, then you pick it up where you bought it in Indiana.
9/30/2019 07:52:00 PM
You should read the Federal law, my friend and you will see that it is against federal law for someone to sell you a handgun unless you are a legal resident of the state of purchase. Long guns are something else and they will sell you rifles and shotguns. In Florida and Tennessee, states that I frequent, vendors well handguns at flea markets and garage sales to any resident of that particular state. But, not to outside residents. Go try it yourself, but by your statement it is obvious that you have not or you bought a handgun illegally.
To those of you who don’t believe this is happening read the Sun Times and look at the article about It.
Another corrosive act by the City to limit our 2nd Amendment Rights. Criminals and repeat gun offenders are not the problem. According to the Democrats the gun problem is the law abiding citizens. We must be controlled and limited in our rights of ownership, punished for following the law and singled out for public ridicule and shaming for doing the right thing.
Lori the Hater is making the rules up as she continues her war on the public and select groups regarding their gun rights. In the meantime Dude, Inc. murders and maims the Community.
Just one more reason for citizens to flee the despot who rules the city like a fiefdom.
I believe that the MCC ordinance for registration has been rescinded since the McDonald verdict.
Apparently no thought went into the fact officers own second homes in various states. Please start a lawsuit against this thoughtless action
Anonymous said...
Go to Indiana.
You're buying everything there now anyway.
9/30/2019 12:13:00 AM
cannot buy handguns out of state unless it is transferred to a a FFL holder in Illinois.
9/30/2019 12:02:00 PM
You can buy a gun at an Indiana sporting goods or gun store. You don’t need the gun sent to a FFL in Illinois. You need your FOID as an Illinois resident. You pay for your background check and have to go through the waiting period like in Illinois, then you pick it up where you bought it in Indiana.
9/30/2019 07:52:00 PM
Wrong on so many levels Bub. I can buy a handgun from Cabela or Field and Stream or what ever FFL dealer in Indiana or Michigan or Texas or where ever the hell I can get what I want for Cheap plus shipping. But they ship it to a FFL Dealer in Illinois, the Illinois Dealer does the BATF 4473 and you wait the 3 days. Then you drive to the Illinois FFL Dealer and pick up the hand gun.
I know this for a fact because I did this. And I asked the question about just driving the 15 minutes over the Indiana border to pick it up and the store declined quite quickly. It is Required to purchase a handgun from outside of your Home State by Federal Interstate Commerce Law that this be done this way. Its just that up until about the 60's no one really gave a shit about where you bought your handguns or rifles. Criminals Fucked that up. Now the BATF pays attention to everyone and not just once you get on their radar.
I can buy a long arm in Indiana from an FFL Dealer and pick it up in Indiana from the same store dealer. But that's IT.
9/30/2019 11:51:00 PM
What exactly was “Wrong on so many levels Bud”? You sound like an arrogant know it all, Bud. Over the last 5 years I went to Cabelas in Hammond on three different occasions and bought a AR15 style rifle, a shotgun, and a muzzleloader. Picked them up on at the same Cabelas in Hammond after the waiting period. They are guns, right? Don’t mind you mentioning that handguns have different rules, but I wasn’t “wrong on so many levels”.
>>Its just that up until about the 60's no one really gave a shit about where you bought your handguns or rifles. Criminals Fucked that up. Now the BATF pays attention to everyone and not just once you get on their radar.
The story we were sold was: Oswald got the rifle from mail-order sales, so punish the Country. Now that we know we were sold another False Flag, it is too late to matter.
Once you lose a Right, you don't get it back without a fight. COPA personal firearm registration, anyone?
Name the chief that is married to Blago’s sister. You can’t because Blago, and I assume you mean jail bird Rod Blagojevich doesn’t have a sister.
is this a MCC requirement or something in the general orders?
Anonymous said...
This is the kind of sensible gun control the Socialist/Liberal/Progressive Democrats think is a good first step for the rest of us.
Molon Labe.
9/30/2019 08:52:00 AM
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That's right, the first step in a carefully constructed process for the identification of a select group of individuals who lawfully posses firearms. Soon the COPA Bully Boys dressed in their long black leather coats will come unannounced in the dark of night to ask for your "Paayperz Pleeaze - ja bitte".
The rest of that story is yet to be written.
Beat them at their own games, buy an 80% complete gun or rifle of your choice and assemble it yourself. It's the new up and coming. When you buy the 80% it has NO serial number on it whatsoever, why should it? At that point it's only a chunk of plastic or metal. The manufacturer gives you the cut out to complete the weapon and you have to put all assemblies in yourself. Very easy and millions of YouTube videos on how to do it. New Jersey caught on because the bangers were going that route and passed law prohibiting the sale or delivery to that state of 80% complete guns.
What exactly was “Wrong on so many levels Bud”? You sound like an arrogant know it all, Bud. Over the last 5 years I went to Cabelas in Hammond on three different occasions and bought a AR15 style rifle, a shotgun, and a muzzleloader. Picked them up on at the same Cabelas in Hammond after the waiting period. They are guns, right? Don’t mind you mentioning that handguns have different rules, but I wasn’t “wrong on so many levels”.
10/01/2019 12:04:00 PM
Clarity is Key. You Said Gun in your original post. You didn't say Long Arm, Rifle, Carbine or any of th other terms that would describe a firearm that isn't a pistol/handgun.
And yes. I'm obviously arrogant because I got detailed in my post.
I hope your reports are more detailed than your post was.
Guess they’ll require all vehicles owned by officers to have city registration too.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Name the chief that is married to Blago’s sister. You can’t because Blago, and I assume you mean jail bird Rod Blagojevich doesn’t have a sister.
10/01/2019 01:20:00 PM
They were close. Its actually his wife's sister.
Ralph Papa Thorson Says:
Why are there always more gun Laws for the Law-Abiding Firearm Owners to obey, yet the criminals who break gun Laws get a slap on the hand or nothing at all after being caught committing violent crimes using those guns, which are seldom legally registered ? Why do we allow our Politicians to try to further restrict the Law-Abiding with more Laws, Rules, and Regulations, while not holding them all responsible for all the crime committed despite their ineffective, useless Laws, which number in the thousands, yet do little or nothing to curtail the problem, despite costing Taxpayers billions to enact the Legislation, which is 99% useless anyway ? In short, why are we not holding them responsible for wasting our money, and getting little or no results for their stupid ineffective ideas that become Laws ?
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