Not Our Call Lady
- The Chicago Police Department will reconsider using an Illinois homicide law to arrest narcotics dealers whose customers die from their drugs, officials say. For years, prosecutors in the collar counties have been filing such cases. They say it discourages drug sales and reduces the number of overdoses.
Eugene Roy, Chicago’s former chief of detectives, said he met about four years ago with state’s attorneys from DuPage, Will, Lake and McHenry counties to see how they used the law. Roy says he recommended Chicago develop protocols for deciding who should be arrested under the state’s drug-induced homicide statute, but the idea was “mothballed” after he retired in 2016.
Now, Brendan Deenihan, who was promoted last week to replace Chief of Detectives Melissa Staples, plans to take another look at the idea. “He feels very strongly about this issue and is considering assembling a task force to investigate drug-induced homicides,” said Tom Ahern, a police spokesman.
Ahern said such investigations are complex because detectives need to prove the dealer knew that the drugs could kill the customer.
Yeah...."complex." You also have to prove that Crimesha thinks the dope dealer knew that dope could kill a customer. After all, she grew up in the Green and tens of thousands of addicts bought dope there and never died, so why wouldn't a dealer think his product was completely safe?
The mom pushing for this exhibits all the typical deflections of a parent of an addict:
The mom pushing for this exhibits all the typical deflections of a parent of an addict:
- For Sylvia Schaefer, it’s clear “the law should be enforced.” Schaefer’s son Joshua Bloomfield, a 29-year-old struggling with heroin addiction while trying to finish college, died last May 28.
“Refer to it as drug poisoning and not drug overdose,” Schaefer said. “My son didn’t kill himself. He wasn’t suicidal. He had great plans on the horizon.”
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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You don't have to be suicidal to kill yourself. Sometimes you just have to be stupid. Using heroin is stupid. You can't get addicted to it if you never use it. I'm sure all heroin users had big plans on the horizon. Maybe part of those plans should be to get off the heroin. I have zero sympathy for anyone who dies from a drug overdose. I have very little sympathy for the parents who want to blame anyone but themselves or their dead child who chose to abuse illegal drugs. However, I do believe those selling the drugs should be held accountable for the deaths they cause. That won't ever happen in this county though.
Great idea, tie up dics who can’t file charges on an actual murder 90 percent of the time with this bullshit.
Live by the hair-on, die by the hair-on.
“Refer to it as drug poisoning and not drug overdose,” Schaefer said. “My son didn’t kill himself. He wasn’t suicidal. He had great plans on the horizon.”
No lady, your kid DID kill himself. Only he did it much quicker than the majority of other junkies. And you’re either delusional or naïve to think he had great plans on the horizon as a dope fiend. The one and only “great plan” of any heroin addict consists of figuring out how they’re going to beg, borrow, or steal the next $10. And those are anything but great plans.
Sorry for your loss... losing a child is the worst thing on earth. But the truth of the matter is that society is a much better place with one less addict.
You all should read the comments on the Sun Times Facebook post. 95% of the commenters think this is the most retarded thing they've ever heard of.
Why are they quoting or listening to anything "Mr. Do Not Hire List" eugene roy says?
I agree with charging the dealers with this, but this is a waste of time by Deenihan. He should know better. Does he really think the crook county states attorneys will approve these charges? And even if by some 1 in a million chance it happens, we have a bunch of activist judges. It’s a waste of time and effort.
Drug dealers want customers. Knowingly giving a customer drugs that will kill them means that customer won’t be around any longer to continue being a customer. You are not going to be a profitable drug dealer for very long if you are knowingly killing your customers. Here’s an idea, DON’T DO DRUGS! I know this isn’t the politically correct thing to say, but addiction, in my opinion is a weakness and not a disease. Leukemia, Breast cancer, Colon cancer, Pancreas Cancer, Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma, those are diseases.
Don’t bother Brendan. Too much work for detectives that are already burned out. Even IF charges are approved, cook county judges or jurors will NEVER convict. Even if they do, they will be given a lenient sentence
an see city writing big checks on this one. Ha, ha. The problem the other jurisdictions are so much smarter than the city that they can get it right. The city attempt if any would be a clusterfuck. However willing to bet that a family could sue the connected gang successfully. Lots of money if you could track the money trail.
Lady sorry read the article and you need to accept the fact that you were an enabler. He started with weed at 14, YOU needed to stop him then before he progressed. He was suicidal from the start, you knew it was never going to end well. Sorry for your loss, but stop blaming everyone but the one who injested the drugs.
Sounded like a good idea until I read the results of all the times it was tried. Very light sentences up o and including probation and a few dropped charges. Don't waste your time, and from the looks of your picture in the article you haven't got much time left before you pull the plug. Suggest you get your charges away from their computers issuing community alerts and have them out on street knocking on doors. Marked cars and uniforms should be the order of the day since they would be spending most of their time in the high risk communities where a police presence just might have a positive effect on potential crimes. Who wants o be buying from the corner boys when there is a marked police car parked on block.
Yea right Kim will be all over this idea. Not a snowballs chance in Hell getting this idea implemented. Don't waste time and energy trying. Based o success of this ploy not worth all the extra time and effort to prosecute along these lines.
Charging a dope dealer with homicide?
Never happen.
Are we going to charge the doctors that prescribe hydrocodone or oxycodone to patients that then die as a result of taking the drug? Every democratically controlled major city is suffering from a rise in crime due to their adoption of “soft on crime” policies. Remember what Obama said after being elected, “elections have consequences. “.
Sylvia Schaefer could sue the drug dealer. Carroll O'Connor sued his son's (Hugh's) drug dealer.
Restorative Justice Bernie Bros tag Mike Bloomberg’s Edgewater campaign office, with terms such as “Oligarch” and “Cop.” These are the same people who have threatened to riot in Milwaukee if Bernie doesn’t get the nod. These are the same morons who want to abolish the police and seek a “revolution” to redistribute the wealth some people have earned.
These are the same people who would defend the drug dealer who cuts his product up with toxic fillers because he “never had the opportunity” to break the cycle of the system he was in, even though he is already part of the welfare state.
Its a touchy subject. To hell with these dealers. Dope is dead, we all know. And we cant win with our states atty ever. Judges are terrible. But the subject of overdoses has hit so many so hard. Thanks for not being cynical. Im a beat cop, and have lost 2 brothers from overdoses, 1 a few yrs back and 1 just a few months ago. From Chicago dope. You never know where these hypes come from, some had decent lives, and good families, and just got wrapped up. Some are total scumbags. Either way, the dope game is out of control, and cops are handcuffed in so many ways when it comes to the job. I'd personally love to see these bastards do some time for spreading that poison that kills so many.
Be safe.
Every time I hear Gene Roy's name I have to poop.
Oops.....gotta go.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!...after I wash my hands.
drugs are a victimless crime and the war on drugs doesn't work - isnt that what we;ve been told?
It’s always someone else’s fault. No personal responsibility.
How about we charge the parents’ for not being more proactive
and intervening to prevent the overdose.
In this county? LMAO
"You also have to prove that Crimesha thinks the dope dealer knew that dope could kill a customer." No you have to make sure she isn't friends with the dope dealer.
Who was the first one charged for this in Cook County? Son of a PO who works in the suburbs. A street narcotics team worked on it and came up with the offender. Phil had the press conference. At the time, Ray had nothing to do with it. Amusing
Its hard to feel sorry for these people, he poisoned himself and if he didn't buy it in Chicago he'd find it in Dupage. The junkies hear where people are dying from the dope and they flock there. Their thought process is that it must be really good dope if its killing all of these rookie drug addicts. Still I feel sorry for the parents.
How are we going to prove it without a confession from the drug dealer.
Just think of what are homicide numbers would be if we start counting overdoses.
I suffered from alcohol poisoning. It was terrible.Drug poisoning is equivalent.
roy is a know nothing political hack
The problem lies with tainted homemade drugs that resemble normal prescription pills, such as xanex laced with fentynol. These drugs are being made in someone's basement.
nonymous said...
Charging a dope dealer with homicide?
Never happen.
2/24/2020 03:48:00 AM
Oh, but you are so wrong. It is happening all around the country, especially in the Northern Counties of Illinois. " Drug Induced Homicide" is the law in Illinois
Graduate from college as a heroin addict.....absolutely a bright and productive future. Why didn't you have your kid in rehab lady?
“Refer to it as drug poisoning and not drug overdose,” Schaefer said. “My son didn’t kill himself. He wasn’t suicidal. He had great plans on the horizon.”
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Great plans? Graduating at 29 while being a heroin addict? What is in Mom's past that she raised a heroin addict? Look in the mirror first, lady. What else can be deduced except her son was suicidal knowing whatever street drug he bought and injected might be his last? Good grief. Blame everyone but yourself.
This is the law. It’s been on the books for years. Drug dealers do like customers, but it’s the money they like most. So they place a cheaper powerful synthetic drug fentanyl. This increases drug dealers profits, and often can lead to death. We are stretched thin, that is no secret, but this is a crime on the books. We blame Foxx for not prosecuting laws on the books, but she can’t prosecute what we do not investigate.
This crime does often take a bit of follow-up, but if acted on quickly this is a charge that can be a deterrent in the drug game, if prosecuted. I believe most of the push back would be from incompetent bosses that have been over promoted, and like Foxx want a quick stat that looks good. If they don’t understand it, do not have patience for the Investigation, or more then likely have never really done the job, this is not a high profile type charge that will get you the next bite of the apple.
If these overdoses were in some cases treated like a homicide, I think we all might be surprised by the results.
I applaud Deenihan for taking on the subject.
Why not take it a step further and go after the people that actually manufacture it and transport it all over the world, who would that be. Wait does crimesha know it even exists.
About time
No way will Foxx go for charging drug dealers with murder. The dealers are victims of the system and not accountable for their dope-slinging, let alone the lives they ruin. But it's a nice thought.
Somewhat off topic: Noticed that the Tribune endorsed More. Call me cynical, but this move arguably suggests that Foxx is scared of Conway and confirms that More is likely a spoiler to split the vote planted by Preckwinkle and the machine. More has had no publicity and the Tribune just handed her a bunch for free, without even discussing Conway in the article, let alone explaining why they chose More over him.
What if the Drugs that killed some hype was sold thru a second, third, or 4th seller ? The original seller was a Cartel, which POTUS Trump is trying to keep out of the USA by building the Wall, which is being blocked at every turn by Democrat Politicians, so aren't they just as culpable for the deaths too ???
Sounds like little Deenohen is politicing more than using any common sense. Can't even get an approval for Agg. Batt's, Carjacks, Burglaries, Robberies, CSA's, etc; much less this shit. Why bother ? Definately not cost-effective not to mention the amount of Man-Hours / Man Power it would take to build a case like that. Stupid is as Stupid does.
Police only have to charge someone to get that coveted “clearance” by CCX.
Kinda dopey to to think a drug dilla is going to fess up to KNOWINGLY selling tainted dope. Then there’s there the dead guy, conjured up by seance to testify to the fact that the diller personally sold that bad yam-yam. Hmmmm, what about the street corner distributor?
A plea or approval misdemeanor Reckless Conduct will be sufficient for a CCX.
Let’s say the arrest and evidence somehow meets that 10 prong pre-CCSAO hurdle, anything more than a CCX is just a racist roadblock to justice and it will be tossed out at the initial phone in with the invocation of the CookCo Disparities Clause.
KmmmFxxxx the States Atty (who sides,defends and identifies with the folks that enter the colonial System) might agreed to this notion of quick lane CCX, she can expunge on demand then recommend and defer defendants to private counsel to initiate the false arrest suits.
Of course maybe Deenahan is banking in a Conway or Pfannuche win in November, but he hasn’t met the new 21st Century historic new superintendent yet who will tote and abide by LightLoafer’s community pander binder.
kim fixx aware of this.
This is simply a sneaky method of improving the homicide clearance rates. The death would be reported as a non-criminal death investigation which does not add to the number of homicides. However, once the case gets presented to the States Attorney to be charged as a murder the case will be cleared as a homicide clearance regardless whether the charges is approved or not. If the dealer gets charged it’s cleared closed by arrest and prosecution and if the charge is rejected (which most will be) the case gets cleared closed by exception. Either way, it counts as a cleared homicide case. That’s the typical Eugene Roy dishonest way of doing business!
When you dont let them sell, the move on to smash and grabs and car jackings. Let em sell. Its actually quite good for the community.
Let the addicts die don't do drugs you have to have the will power to stop no rehab or treatment will help you.
August 26, 2006- first one in cook county charged with drug induced homicide, do not really want to name the suburban PO. An Area 4 narcotics team worked on it and got approval.
It's not going to deter anyone. Dope dealers aren't smart. And the victims here are dying due to their own (stupid) misadventure. Injecting or snorting dangerous substances of unknown quality and ingredients that you got from some guy you know by a nickname and a burner phone is your own fault.
Waste of manpower if the case can be proved you already have homicide teams that can do the work.
As South Park school teacher Mr. Garrison say’s, “Don’t do drugs kids..unkay? Drugs are bad..unkay? Only dopes use dope..unkay? What is it now officer Bar Brady?”
Mr. Garrison..I have to go poop-pay!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Are we going to charge the doctors that prescribe hydrocodone or oxycodone to patients that then die as a result of taking the drug? Every democratically controlled major city is suffering from a rise in crime due to their adoption of “soft on crime” policies. Remember what Obama said after being elected, “elections have consequences. “.
2/24/2020 05:00:00 AM
Look at all the jagoffs getting high on the pushers legal weed, that Lori pushed through. Talk to ER doctors many coming in, "crawling out of their skin," what part of "medical weed," do the elected not understand?
Dope is big business in Shitty City whether its within the law as well as illegal street corner hustlers. The proposed change is not gonna see the light of day. Crook County wants to empty out the jails. Putting dopers in jail is against the social justice code. Kim Foxx, Tim Evans and LeRoy Martin are SJW. All Democrats, all SJW's. Don't know if the lady voted Democrat but enough voters did vote for these slugs. Voting has consequences.
Hell they won’t even charge a stabbed or shooter in city with murder will plead it down to a probation offense.
Reading all these comments about why wasn’t he in rehab, what was the mother’s past like? I’m a retired po who has the unfortunate situation like this woman. My stepdaughter was in rehab on 4 different occasions 3 years ago, each time she completed the program and was released only to go back to her old ways, she even did a six month stint in Logan correctional facility only to get released and go back to the heroin. My wife and I tried everything possible to get her to straightened out but the bottom line is if they have to want to get better you can’t force it upon them, they will keep going back to their old ways unless they want to get better. We have lost touch with her, all we know is that she is living somewhere on the Westside turning tricks to support her habit. We know it’s only a matter of time until we get that call to go to the medical examiners office.My point is it’s easy to criticize parents of these users, but try living this nightmare when you have done everything in your power to try to help them. I only hope none of you have to go through what my wife and I are going through, my retirement has not been all it was supposed to.
Anonymous said...
This is the law. It’s been on the books for years. Drug dealers do like customers, but it’s the money they like most. So they place a cheaper powerful synthetic drug fentanyl. This increases drug dealers profits, and often can lead to death. We are stretched thin, that is no secret, but this is a crime on the books. We blame Foxx for not prosecuting laws on the books, but she can’t prosecute what we do not investigate.
This crime does often take a bit of follow-up, but if acted on quickly this is a charge that can be a deterrent in the drug game, if prosecuted. I believe most of the push back would be from incompetent bosses that have been over promoted, and like Foxx want a quick stat that looks good. If they don’t understand it, do not have patience for the Investigation, or more then likely have never really done the job, this is not a high profile type charge that will get you the next bite of the apple.
If these overdoses were in some cases treated like a homicide, I think we all might be surprised by the results.
I applaud Deenihan for taking on the subject.
2/24/2020 09:09:00 AM
I didn’t think the new chief of dicks would be contributing to the blog...welcome!
They wont have a case report EVER that will not be overdose!
Could you picture LIGHT GROOTS hideous face if overdoses of the poor sad junkies counted as HOMICIDES>
You cant even get anybody to pay for the bodies removals at the morgue.
All those A B C D teams of homicide dicks can barely solve murders with videos.
Add the half ass attorneys at FOXXES office who think they are public defenders and you have a big waste of time and money.
You stick a needle in your arm lets call it stupidity and move on. Kinda like going after a bartender for DUI deaths.
Eugene Roy? You mean the guy who told a copper that PTSD is all in their head? Yeah, I want that guy coming up with new policing ideas...What a Pooch! Just stay retired knowing that you fooled them all, and remain silent dumbass.
Gene Roy who is married to a Biebel who is on the do not hire list from the city of Chicago? Dont go away mad Gene, just go away!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Are we going to charge the doctors that prescribe hydrocodone or oxycodone to patients that then die as a result of taking the drug? Every democratically controlled major city is suffering from a rise in crime due to their adoption of “soft on crime” policies. Remember what Obama said after being elected, “elections have consequences. “.
2/24/2020 05:00:00 AM
Look at all the jagoffs getting high on the pushers legal weed, that Lori pushed through. Talk to ER doctors many coming in, "crawling out of their skin," what part of "medical weed," do the elected not understand?
2/24/2020 01:57:00 PM
This is true even though it was voted on state wide it seems like the mayor and alderman are pushing for force it open up more and more of these dope dispensaries in communities throughout the city, and they want to get these money making opportunities to former drug addicted and former drug offenders how does that work? This is gonna be like many years ago when I was a tavern on every corner now there will be a dope spot on every corner with people being rushed to the hospital this is it your mother and father’s weed this stuff is extremely powerful very high levels of THC! How can people that are elected want to get people drugged up I don’t understand many people don’t understand maybe then they will vote Democratic because they will not know what they’re doing
nonymous said...
Let the addicts die don't do drugs you have to have the will power to stop no rehab or treatment will help you.
2/24/2020 11:51:00 AM
Will power to stop? My oh my what a fool you are
Police only have to charge someone to get that coveted “clearance” by CCX.
Kinda dopey to to think a drug dilla is going to fess up to KNOWINGLY selling tainted dope. Then there’s there the dead guy, conjured up by seance to testify to the fact that the diller personally sold that bad yam-yam. Hmmmm, what about the street corner distributor?
A plea or approval misdemeanor Reckless Conduct will be sufficient for a CCX.
Let’s say the arrest and evidence somehow meets that 10 prong pre-CCSAO hurdle, anything more than a CCX is just a racist roadblock to justice and it will be tossed out at the initial phone in with the invocation of the CookCo Disparities Clause.
KmmmFxxxx the States Atty (who sides,defends and identifies with the folks that enter the colonial System) might agreed to this notion of quick lane CCX, she can expunge on demand then recommend and defer defendants to private counsel to initiate the false arrest suits.
Of course maybe Deenahan is banking in a Conway or Pfannuche win in November, but he hasn’t met the new 21st Century historic new superintendent yet who will tote and abide by LightLoafer’s community pander binder.
2/24/2020 10:57:00 AM
Charging someone is a CCA. That was actually your high point.
Anonymous said...
roy is a know nothing political hack
2/24/2020 08:19:00 AM
You obviously never talked to him then
Mom why didn't you STOP him at 14. Sorry but you lost him at that point just took a little longer. Bad choices have bad outcomes. Was only a matter of tome before his choice did him in. Sorry to be so blunt but blaming others is not going to change a thing.
Waste of time
roy is a merit political hack , that statement is false .
roy a boss with cotton balls.
One commenter above pointed out that drug induced homicide (whatever it is in the legal jargon) is regularly prosecuted in Northern Illinois. That is true but every story that I have seen revolves around two or more junkies partying together. If one of the surviving junkies admits to being the person who copped the druga they are charged.
As you are not dealing with the actual street dealer, I doubt very much that arresting the other hapless junkie will do much to deter drug sales.
Most of the heroin in the northern 'burbs are bought on the street in Chicago. Not sure that a personal use purchaser could, and probably wouldn't if they could, identify the street dealer they bought from.
“Charging someone with murder in this place is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indianapolis 500”
This is hardly done in chicago. Think what would happen if every overdose victim was treated as a homicide..... homicides would be way up.
It is true that every overdose victim did purchase the narcotics from someone who did deliver the fatal drug..... but catching those dealers?
Clearance rates would be way down down down for homicides. No wonder the chief said we would look into it, without actually saying that we would do anything, which means we will do nothing, because at the end of the day, when tomorrow's scandal breaks or today's media with short-term memory loss forgets, the media will forget they ever asked this question, and months and years from now someone will ask, "Whatever happened to that idea about prosecuting the dealers with drug-induced homicide?"
... And some liberals say that illegal drug-dealing is a victimless crime that hurts no one....
It's on the books:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/072000050K9-3.3.htm
And "intent" is not even in the statute; all one needs to prove is that person A delivered a controlled substance to victim B, and victim B died as a result of ingesting said narcotic.
The only two things that keeps Chicago police from filing charges against people for this or classifying overdose deaths as homicides are: murder rates and clearance rates. The former will go up and clearance rates will go down.
It has been used occasionally, but only in special cases of a high profile case or connected clouted kids.
Interesting Roy thinks the city will listen to him considering they have him on their DO NOT HIRE list.
https://www.scribd.com/document/446953096/City-Of-Chicago-No-Hire-List
So Gene...You forgot to mention how many of these dope dealers were charged while you were the Chief or Deputy Chief! Answer: 0.
We all know you are still trying to remain relevant and get a better paying job since you are giving your ex-wife half your pension.
You also know that in 99% of the 5-10 cases that were charged in the suburbs...the offenders plead out to a much lesser charge.
Please just go away Gene. You are still a goof.
Man accused in drug homicide arrested again
Carlos Sadovi and Emma Graves Fitzsimmons, Tribune staff reporters
CHICAGO TRIBUNE
The first person in Illinois charged with homicide involving the powerful painkiller fentanyl has been arrested again on a new drug charge, but this time a judge ordered him held in jail at least until a hearing Feb. 8.
Corey Crump, 36, had been free on bail since last August, when he was charged with causing the drug-induced homicide of Joseph Krecker, 17, the son of the Franklin Park Deputy Police Chief Jack Krecker. Prosecutors alleged that Crump had sold Joseph the tainted drug that killed him.
After Crump was arrested late Wednesday, he told Chicago police that he had continued to sell drugs after he was released on bail, Assistant Cook County State's Atty. Anna Demacopoulos said Thursday in court. He had been freed after posting 10 percent of his $80,000 bail.
After his arrest Wednesday, Crump offered to make a deal with police by giving up his drug source in exchange for his freedom, Demacopoulos said.
She quoted Crump as saying, "I'll be off the street in 6 months anyway because I'm going to get 30 years on the murder."
An alleged gang member, Crump was spotted Wednesday night by police in the 2600 block of North Harding Avenue, where he was alleged to have been placing foil packets under the hood of a car.
The officers saw Crump leaving a gangway holding a bag, and watched him hide it in a car engine, said police Comdr. Nicholas Roti, the head of narcotics and gang investigations section. Police said Thursday that they believe the packets contained heroin.
Crump was charged with possession of a controlled substance with intent to deliver.
When Jack Krecker learned Thursday of Crump's new arrest, he said he was not surprised. "I understand the jail is full, but I never thought it was a high enough bond," he said.
"I hope that if anything, the word gets out there and the families don't have to go through what my wife and I had to go through," he added, saying he believes his son could have beaten his drug habits if the fentanyl hadn't killed him.
Joseph Krecker graduated from Maine South High School in Park Ridge two days before his body was discovered June 6 in the 2400 block of North Monitor Avenue on the Northwest Side, about a half block from where Crump had sold him the drugs, prosecutors said. Packets of fentanyl-laced heroin were found with his body, investigators said.
Roti, the police commander, said Thursday that problems with fentanyl-laced heroin have decreased. "We have not seen the rash of overdoses we saw last summer," Roti said, noting police have targeted several housing projects to curtail the drug's spread. "There was a big spotlight put on this. It definitely is on the decline."
On Thursday, Cook County Criminal Court Judge Laura Sullivan set bail on Crump's new drug charge at $250,000, but ordered him held until he goes before the judge hearing the homicide charge Feb. 8 for a hearing on violation of bail.
Demacopoulos, the prosecutor, asked that a hearing be held to determine whether Crump's bail money came from legitimate sources.
Crump's lawyer, Andrew Vail, had no comment Thursday.
According to prosecutors, Crump has a lengthy prison record that includes five felony convictions, three of which were drug related. Crump was convicted of possession of a controlled substance in 1995, 1999 and in 2004. In 1991, he was convicted of armed robbery and in 2000 he was convicted of aggravated battery.
It's the fucking law. It should be charged! Otherwise, change the fucking law.
The Cook County Democrat party would never support charging drug dealers when their customer dies. That would mean they would lose two voters not just one!
A guy (Eugene Roy) who is on the Do Not Hire List and was recommended to be fired by the IG is the new policy maker for the Chicago Police.
Unpopular opinion: Legalize it, regulate it, tax it. The strength of what is called heroin (often times it is anything but) varies wildly from dose to dose. You wanna shoot up? No skin of my nose. You should be able to know exactly what you are getting, what substance and strength. If you can work to support your habit fine. If not enjoy detoxing in jail when you get caught stealing.
I know this will never happen but I think treating people like adults and then holding them responsible for those choices would work better than what is being done now.
How the fuck can you work and charge a case of some turd who buys bad dope and ODs? 1st the guy who took the drug is fucking dead so he aint talking all you may have is his buddys telling you he got it from some dude who they don't know his name but goes by Droopy Drawrs or some other stupid street name. Find droopy drawrs and he refuses to talk or says he never sold any drugs to anybody, what then, a séance to find out if droopy drawers sold the bad dope to the dead junkie? Nobody put a gun to junkies head and forced them to do the drug. Fuck it I could go on and on it just doesn't and wont work. Guess what, your a junkie your rolling the dice you crapped out and now your dead and no fucks given.
Moral of rant, don't do drugs they may kill you and if they do its all YOUR fault.
All of you that ARE being cynical bastards, have obviously never lost a son, a brother, a father, a mother sister daughter or anyone close to you because of drugs. Let it hit home like that. Imagine your son, 2 sons, maybe more, are dead. After years of raising them right, sending them to private school, sports, girlfriends, prom, doing everything right, and then one gets into a car accident, gets on pain meds, and cant get off. His brain gets rewired and the doc cuts him off. Years of hell after he takes to the streets. You do everything to get him help, and eventually you find your own son dead, needle still in arm. The son you raised, changed his diapers, read him stories when he was little. For all you that say, let em all die theyre just junkies...well, fuck you. You dont know pain like i know pain. Im a combat vet, a cop, a Republican, grew up without a father, and am tired of no life experience idiots who talk shit about a subject they know nothing about. Its destroying this country. Addiction is not as easy as "just quit already". Keep your stupid mouths shut when it comes to this subject. If you dont have anything productive to say then stfu.
That might make a good dealer selling point. 14,458 sales and no one died. You can trust my product.
2/25/2020 08:07:00 AM
This is why Dr.s should stop cutting off people who have chronic pain. If you are caught selling your Rx, yeah you need cut off. However if you are taking it as prescribed they should you let you have it until you don't need it or you die of old age whatever comes first. I believe the black market trade has been fueled by Dr.s cutting off legitimate patients as state and fed regs have cracked down.
You would choke on the number of OD's in Mt Greenwood, closed as death investigations pending tox' and nothing further, little more than 19P.
I have read through these comments and am thankful that the detectives and officers that have been aligned to my case are empathetic and genuine. What the article didn’t explain was that I, like 90% of parents, are intentional and believe that we are doing the best for our children. We have always had nightly family dinners, where electronics were not allowed. We have two other beautiful children that are thankful for their upbringing and the time and love that we poured in to them. Joshua was my first child and we navigated our roles as mother and son together. I cherished the time I had with him and dearly miss him. Was I perfect? No, but what parent believes that they are perfect? Did I make mistakes? Absolutely, ..as a parent, a daughter, a wife, and a friend. That is life, right?
I am not “passing blame” or “deflecting”. Addiction is a disease and is hereditary. It is painful to watch a loved one spiral, especially a child that you loved wholeheartedly. But my son paid his price with his life. I am not “blaming” the dealer. My son made a choice and paid his consequence. However the dealer also owns part of this equation, as he too, made a choice to break the law by selling poison. The issue is that he can continue to break the law and not have a consequence, and that, to me, is unacceptable. I hope you never experience a loss like this.
This will piss off a bunch of people, if it's even posted, but I'll throw it out there anyway:
If you "did everything you could" and "raised your kids right" and they ended up dead with a needle in their arm, I'd suggest you could've done more. Unless they just went out one night for the first time in their life, tried some drugs, and ended up dead from a bad bag, you could've done more. They likely had to travel to get the drugs. They needed money to buy the drugs. They're probably using the drugs in your house. They're probably showing signs of drug use. You're supporting, enabling, ignoring, or otherwise missing the problem until it's too late. Too many people are afraid to do EVERYTHING possible to get a family member to stop abusing drugs or alcohol. If I had to deal with it, I'd probably somehow fail as well, but I would realize there was more that could've been done. This post will be seen as harsh and wrong, and I'll get "you don't know because you haven't gone through it" responses, but just think about whether you're actually doing absolutely EVERYTHING in your power to prevent your child from ending up dead or even using drugs in the first place. Underage drinking, smoking weed, staying out all night wherever, etc. is all cute until it becomes something more. Sorry.
"...Roy is a no nothing political hack..."
"...You have obviously never talked to him... "
Ok. He's a well informed political hack. Feel better?
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