IPRA Overreaching
A very pissed off copper writes to us from the west side:
- Following the chase and "friendly fire" incident involving 010, IPRA showed up in the 011th District and started interviewing coppers, alone and without representation, over the chase that immediately preceded the shooting incident. It seems they were there looking for policy violations concerning the chase that had nothing to do with the final outcome. Watch your asses boys and girls. IPRA is looking for any copper they can hang on any bullshit they can dig up. Demand representation. [emphasis added]
This wouldn't be the first time IPRA has attempted to overreach their "duties." Don't get caught in their dragnet. Have them submit their allegations in writing through the CR process and get an FOP lawyer.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
36 Comments:
Um, none of these guys told them to "take a hike?"
IPRA is taking a few down to the grand jury this week.
Fuck ipra and that Police hatin' bitch rosenwig!
Remember a while back when they were trying to dress like detectives and wear their ID on a necklace upside-down? they would make their way into police shooting crimescenes un-challenged.
did the bosses step in and tell'em to fuck off?
Tell them to go F themselves; walk out and call the FOP
DON'T TALK TO THOSE MOTHER FUCKERS WITHOUT AN FOP REP OR FOP SUPPLIED ATTORNEY, DON'T LET THEM TELL YOU THAT YOU DON'T HAVE RIGHTS!
Simple tell them that you want your contractually required union representation present before and during any questioning.
Tell the IPRA people to wait for your attorney! Call FOP 24/7 and get the field rep notified no matter the time if IPRA insists on talking to you.
Maybe FOP should hire retired P.O's and set up a watchdog group to overlook IPRA.They should gather information on all the violation that occure against police officers at these incidents and start suing, this might take the wind out of there sails, and stop the witch hunts
B.S. fop was called on the scene and the fop lawyer was there before anyone talked to IPRA
Know your rights:
A Department member under interrogation shall have the right to be represented by counsel of their own choice and to have that counsel present at all times during the interrogation, and/or at the request of the member under interrogation, the member shall have the right to be represented by a representative of the Fraternal Order of Police, who shall be either a police officer on leave to work for the Lodge or a retired police officer working for the Fraternal Order of Police. The interrogation shall be suspended for a reasonable time until representation can be obtained.
No FOP rep, walk the f*ck away.
Maybe FOP should hire retired P.O's and set up a watchdog group to overlook IPRA.They should gather information on all the violation that occure against police officers at these incidents and start suing, this might take the wind out of there sails, and stop the witch hunts
11/04/2010 06:59:00 AM
That is an EXCELLENT idea!!!
Which is exactly why FOP would never do it!
when you go down there for a statement and they talk to you like you are the bad guy should make the bells and whistles start going off in your brain--- you sit there in shock as you come to the realization that they are giving some form of credence to whatever this shithead claims you did---- the bosses want the heads but you will be on an island all by yourself when the beef comes down---- that cool boss who you were collecting cb numbers for will be looking out for himself--- don't become another trophy on j-fled's wall of shame.....
Ken, that's a great idea! This needs to be done.
It's interesting that the city only hires young, impressionable, liberal, recent college graduates to investigate the police...
In car camera system was pulled from the vehicles involved. That covers the entire shift from about 24hrs prior. Hope noone was doing anything stupid
Maybe FOP should hire retired P.O's and set up a watchdog group to overlook IPRA.They should gather information on all the violation that occure against police officers at these incidents and start suing, this might take the wind out of there sails, and stop the witch hunts
Would we then get a group together to watch the retirees group.
Another lawsuit? Violation of civil rights?
Anonymous Ken said...
Maybe FOP should hire retired P.O's and set up a watchdog group to overlook IPRA.They should gather information on all the violation that occure against police officers at these incidents and start suing, this might take the wind out of there sails, and stop the witch hunts
11/04/2010 06:59:00 AM
I second that!!
A while ago, I was brought down to IPRA to give a "witness" statement regarding an incident I happened to be in the area of. At the end, I was questioned regarding how the accused officer was in possession of a case report with my name on it as being the person who printed it. They tried to hang me, not for any original wrong doing, but for somehow giving this officer a report he could have printed himself. Not exactly just a witness statement.
Recently,two officers I know were involved in a shooting. There were never any allegations nor suspicions that this was anything less than a good shoot. During the interview, however, IPRA continually tried to have the two officers contradict each others statements so they could persue a Rule 14 violation.
How sad is it that you put your life on the line, and are 100% legit, and these jokes try to justify their existence and budget by seeking to discrediting two officers who have gone through one of the most traumatic experiences of their life.
Maybe these coppers should put a beef/CR# on the investigators for over stepping their boundaries. Will those investigators take a day, reprimand or be dismissed? WTF!
No one, I repeat NO one was interviewed without a Detective or Atorney Dan Herbert or Aguilar FOP being present. Get the facts right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe FOP should hire retired P.O's and set up a watchdog group to overlook IPRA.
Hmmmmm.....lemmee think. I know a retired cop who'd do this and for WATT-ever the FOP would pay him.
Nice try, Kenny.
That retired po watchdog group to moderate IPRA sounds like a wonderful idea. WHO monitors IPRA? Theyre nothing but a bunch of blue tooth wearing, police hatin, hibbity-jibbity rev'runs.
Don't fall for their sly ways, make sure you have representation. Does a seasoned penitentiary shithead talk with the man without a lawyer-- HELL NO. Then why do coppers talk to investigators from IPRRA n IAD who are trying to take your and your families livelihood from you.
An Area Detective
Retired guy here...... What does IPRA stand for?
There is a lot of talk about suing people on this blogm especially suing the city or city agencies. I can only tell you, from experience, it can be a long, costly and painfull process to sue the city, that is if you are a caring responsible person and not some shit head. So, unless you have sued in the past, I would strongly reconsider and think things out. Most of the time, it is not worth it.
Don't want to talk to IPRA? Get some chest pains or an attack of neuralgia and ask to be taken to a hospital.
Tell you what why not just stop being proactive. You're never going to get the public behind you if keep trying to be proactive. Nothing hurts as much as when the public screams for help and all you do is hand them an RD#.
Fuck that bitch in charge,trying to make a name on the backs of working coppers! Take it from a KMA copper she wants to talk, "Call an ambulance I have chest pains,get me to the hospital" That would buy lots of time,and the city has to pay IOD,then sue her fatass for "Conduct unbecoming a human being"!
Retired guy here...... What does IPRA stand for?
11/04/2010 03:18:00 PM
The new and improved OPS.
Independent Police Review Athority.
3-4 of them know what they are doing, the rest of them, up to and including rosenwig, are nothing but a bunch of Police hating asswipes.
Intern
Proctologists
Reach around
Anally
Maybe FOP should hire retired P.O's and set up a watchdog group to overlook IPRA.They should gather information on all the violation that occure against police officers at these incidents and start suing, this might take the wind out of there sails, and stop the witch hunts
11/04/2010 06:59:00 AM
I second that!!
Lots of retired police with private detective and security licenses ( except for Terry Hilliard he's too dumb to past the test )can do it!
Do background checks, due diligence, and monitor IPRA investigators and present their findings via the web.
Also investigate and monitor lawsuit happy attorneys for conflict of interests, and alleged complainants .
Any of the parties found misbehaving, forward the file to the damaged officer and his attorney and sue them and the dept.
Perfectly legal
Retired guy here...... What does IPRA stand for?
Ingnorant Pathetic rodents Assholes
or
Internal Proctologists Reach Arounds
Retired guy here...... Thanks much for the explanation(s) of what IPRA means.
Now if someone tell me what the initials "MSF" stands for? Specialized unit maybe?
Well...this Post has always been a Great source of information. Maybe we should post exactly what an IPRA Investigator can and cannot do...Inquiring Minds Want To Know...
"when you go down there for a statement and they talk to you like you are the bad guy should make the bells and whistles start going off in your brain--- you sit there in shock as you come to the realization that they are giving some form of credence to whatever this shithead claims you did"
Apparently you go down there w/o Legal Rperesentation? The present day Hard Charger is so enamored w/ his M4 & Taser that he doesn't feel its necesary to have a Lawyer& get's trick bagged. You Reap what you sow Morons.
"Apparently you go down there w/o Legal Rperesentation? The present day Hard Charger is so enamored w/ his M4 & Taser that he doesn't feel its necesary to have a Lawyer& get's trick bagged. You Reap what you sow Morons.
11/05/2010 04:30:00 PM"
if one doesn't want to get fucked in the ass, one shouldn't ever bend over and drop one's pants.
even cavemen knew this.
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